*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (3 Viewers)

[Tiger Fan]

Do people really wonder why the SEC is hated? So arrogant.

well, they do have 6 teams in the top 15 in the country in one side of the conference.

And like 7 of the last 8 National Championship

 

[uconnalum]

What about some realignment in the SEC. Move Mississippi State, A&M and LSU to the East and then move Tennessee, Kentucky and Missouri to the West. Would that hurt the conference; as is the conference is dominating even in recruiting 5 of the top 10 recruits in the State of Texas signed with SEC schools, A&M and LSU had 2 each and Alabama had 1. The way the confrence is algined with the West being top heavy in the rankings like one said they will cannibalize themselves and it also hurts recruiting now if you balance the conferences and they are all ranked and you now have a Top 5 team coming out of the East and West both undefeated for the Championship game that does wonders for the conference and its exposure.

You take an A&M team and move them to the East and they lose Bama and Auburn from the schedule and they end up undefeated in the East and they play an undefeated Bama or Auburn out of the West in the SEC Championship game how can a committee say that losing the Championship game doesn't give you the right to be in the playoffs.

I personally think the Selection Committee should select the 4 playoff teams prior to Championship weekend so none of the conference championships come into play.

 

[jb1020]

Man my bama-fan friends are wayyyyyyy too overconfident heading into this game. This meme is running rampant.

This is Ole Miss' superbowl. Despite the relatively early kickoff for a game of this caliber, the crowd will be well-lubricated with bourbon and should make for a solid environment despite the small stadium.

Statfox has the true line at Ole Miss -2

Bama is 1-2-1 ATS this year.. Ole Miss is 4-0

Bama Defense has allowed 56 points against

Ole Miss Defense has allowed 34 points against

Surprising given Bama's SOS is on par with Ole Miss's (29.7 vs 29.3 opponent power rating)

Not that this isn't obvious, but Bo Wallace is the lynchpin of this whole thing. Should be one hell of a game.

Wallace and Sims. Sims first big road test...vs a very good D. His mobility may be the difference.The Ds have only given up 5 TDs total, minus turnovers and ST....3 by Bama.

A lot of experts picking Ole Miss and the points...agree it'll be a barn burner.

if both defenses are that good it sure doesn't sound like a barn burner. It sounds like a 10-6 game. Hope I'm wrong.

Still don't see OM hanging with them. They have a great D, no doubt about that. They've struggled to pull away from Memphis and Boise this year.

Without a run game they become one dimensional quick and I don't think Bo can handle it. They always talk about good Bo and bad Bo....Good Bo rarely shows up against a good team. If OM is forced to throw the ball they're in trouble.

I'm sure yall heard Katy Perry is the guest picker. Rumor is Ole miss wanted Shep Smith for guest picker but switched to Katy Perry because they wanted someone that had kissed a girl and liked it.

zingggggggggggggggggggg

 

[uconnalum]

If the remaining top 10 wins out tomorrow and factoring strength of schedule and giving added weight to victories over opponents currently ranked in Top 25 my 5 would be as follows:

1. Alabama

2. Oklahoma

3. Texas A&M

4. Auburn

5. Baylor

Ummm, Baylor over FSU?

Ummm...how can Bama and Auburn both be undefeated if they play each other?

After this weeks play that would be my Top 5 if everybody in the Top 10 wins. I still think the loser of the Iron Bowl only if the both go into the matchup undefeated will be the 2nd team from the SEC to be in the playoffs. All 3 teams A&M, Alabama, Auburn have ridiculous schedules ahead of them.

 

[hagmania]

I mean if they really wanted to do it "right" they'd have only 4 Power Conferences with a huge realignment, and the 4 conference winners play the bowl playoffs.

 

[Tom Servo]

What about some realignment in the SEC. Move Mississippi State, A&M and LSU to the East and then move Tennessee, Kentucky and Missouri to the West. Would that hurt the conference; as is the conference is dominating even in recruiting 5 of the top 10 recruits in the State of Texas signed with SEC schools, A&M and LSU had 2 each and Alabama had 1. The way the confrence is algined with the West being top heavy in the rankings like one said they will cannibalize themselves and it also hurts recruiting now if you balance the conferences and they are all ranked and you now have a Top 5 team coming out of the East and West both undefeated for the Championship game that does wonders for the conference and its exposure.

You take an A&M team and move them to the East and they lose Bama and Auburn from the schedule and they end up undefeated in the East and they play an undefeated Bama or Auburn out of the West in the SEC Championship game how can a committee say that losing the Championship game doesn't give you the right to be in the playoffs.

I personally think the Selection Committee should select the 4 playoff teams prior to Championship weekend so none of the conference championships come into play.

I believe this came about due to protecting rivalries and good old fashioned politics.

 

[jurb26]

I personally think the Selection Committee should select the 4 playoff teams prior to Championship weekend so none of the conference championships come into play.

Huh? That's a horrible idea. What if you have a pair of 1 loss teams in the SEC or PAC championship games? Hell, what if you gave 1 loss teams in the ACC or even BIG?

 

[General Malaise]

I think Oregon has a bunch of injuries to their offensive line. Tough to rip Mariota too much if he's running for his life.

Why? Nobody's given Brett Hundley a pass the past 2+ years when he's lost 3-4 starting OL per year and had true frosh starting in their place. Injuries are part of the game.

Coaching should be part of the game too and IMO, Oregon was out coached last night as if Bobby Fischer was taking on Sarah Palin in a game of chess. If you know your offense line is weak and ineffectual, why do you continue to run the ball up the gut and into the teeth of the Arizona defense? I mean, it was just head spinningly stupid. The press has talked for weeks about how Mariota has put this team on his shoulders when it mattered most...well, where was the improvisation last night? Where were the designed runs outside? It was just pathetic watching him flounder. 12 sacks in 2 games is a bad offensive line for sure, but where is the coaching adjustment?

And if Don Pellum lasts beyond this year, I'm giving up my season tickets. 3rd and 20 in one of the game's most crucial moments. #24 Jones-Grigsby has been eating Oregon up all night long in both facets of the game. I'm screaming at the top of my lungs to key on #24. Hand off up the gut and he rips off 24 yards for a first down. How does that happen? That is a fireable offense.

The penalties were atrocious. Taking a bow after a sack? Holding on the most important kick return of the night? Ineligible lineman down field? Pass interference bail outs? Having to go for it on 4th and 11 with plenty of time left in the game? Just astounding how poorly this team was coached and ill prepared they were to face Arizona with 12 days to prepare. At home.

Good bye Heisman. Good bye Pac-12 North (no ####### way in hell this team beats UCLA on the road and I'll be putting my mortgage on the Cardinal on Nov 1). Hello Poulian Weedeater Bowl.

####### frauds.

 

[jurb26]

If the remaining top 10 wins out tomorrow and factoring strength of schedule and giving added weight to victories over opponents currently ranked in Top 25 my 5 would be as follows:

1. Alabama

2. Oklahoma

3. Texas A&M

4. Auburn

5. Baylor

Ummm, Baylor over FSU?

Ummm...how can Bama and Auburn both be undefeated if they play each other?

They don't play each other tomorrow. That's how.

 

[Slapdash]

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No but the wife is. If they're going to crap in our food I'll just eat at the hotel.

Nobody will mess with your food. The rivalry between FL and UT has died down considerably since the Fulmer/Spurrier era, and it wasn't really an issue then.

You're good to go

Fans in Knoxville are pretty hospitable, nothing to worry about here.

 

[jurb26]

I think Oregon has a bunch of injuries to their offensive line. Tough to rip Mariota too much if he's running for his life.

Why? Nobody's given Brett Hundley a pass the past 2+ years when he's lost 3-4 starting OL per year and had true frosh starting in their place. Injuries are part of the game.

Coaching should be part of the game too and IMO, Oregon was out coached last night as if Bobby Fischer was taking on Sarah Palin in a game of chess. If you know your offense line is weak and ineffectual, why do you continue to run the ball up the gut and into the teeth of the Arizona defense? I mean, it was just head spinningly stupid.

Because that one play is the basis for their entire offense more or less. The inside zone read is what the entire play book is centered around. You stop that, you essentially stop Oregon.

 

[Tom Servo]

If the remaining top 10 wins out tomorrow and factoring strength of schedule and giving added weight to victories over opponents currently ranked in Top 25 my 5 would be as follows:

1. Alabama

2. Oklahoma

3. Texas A&M

4. Auburn

5. Baylor

Ummm, Baylor over FSU?

Ummm...how can Bama and Auburn both be undefeated if they play each other?

They don't play each other tomorrow. That's how.

Well, it's good they moved the NCC to mid-October. Getting chilly out here.

 

[uconnalum]

I look at it this way. Say both teams entering the Iron Bowl are undefeated. Auburn loses and now is Idle with 1 loss. Say a 1 loss Stanford plays an Undefeated Arizona for the PAC Championship. Arizona ends up losing and they end up out of the playoffs to an idle 1 loss SEC Team. Before that game no team who is undefeated and wins there half of the conference should be denied a spot in the Playoffs (especially with the resume Arizona will have). With a loss in the championship game that can create question marks.

This whole system is flawed still because it does not address all the scenarios that can occur.

I did read of one proposition but with bowl implications don't know how it would play out but the scenario was all 11 conference champions get an invite and then you invite the top 5 remaining programs based on Strength of Schedule and the Coaches Poll (removing any bias from the public by not including the AP Poll) and you would have a 16 team playoff. To me that sounds lke a great suggestion but pulling it off would be tough.

 

[Emerson Biggens]

Man my bama-fan friends are wayyyyyyy too overconfident heading into this game. This meme is running rampant.

This is Ole Miss' superbowl. Despite the relatively early kickoff for a game of this caliber, the crowd will be well-lubricated with bourbon and should make for a solid environment despite the small stadium.

Statfox has the true line at Ole Miss -2

Bama is 1-2-1 ATS this year.. Ole Miss is 4-0

Bama Defense has allowed 56 points against

Ole Miss Defense has allowed 34 points against

Surprising given Bama's SOS is on par with Ole Miss's (29.7 vs 29.3 opponent power rating)

Not that this isn't obvious, but Bo Wallace is the lynchpin of this whole thing. Should be one hell of a game.

Wallace and Sims. Sims first big road test...vs a very good D. His mobility may be the difference.The Ds have only given up 5 TDs total, minus turnovers and ST....3 by Bama.

A lot of experts picking Ole Miss and the points...agree it'll be a barn burner.

if both defenses are that good it sure doesn't sound like a barn burner. It sounds like a 10-6 game. Hope I'm wrong.

Still don't see OM hanging with them. They have a great D, no doubt about that. They've struggled to pull away from Memphis and Boise this year.

Without a run game they become one dimensional quick and I don't think Bo can handle it. They always talk about good Bo and bad Bo....Good Bo rarely shows up against a good team. If OM is forced to throw the ball they're in trouble.

I'm sure yall heard Katy Perry is the guest picker. Rumor is Ole miss wanted Shep Smith for guest picker but switched to Katy Perry because they wanted someone that had kissed a girl and liked it.

zingggggggggggggggggggg

I'm a state fan too and just don't see how the black rebel bears can even hang around. Bo will have to have a career game. They're too one dimensional, no running game. I hate rooting for bama but don't even want to think about having to put up with the OM friends I have if they won.In the state vs a&m game I hope we show up. Memories of UAB throwing all over the field scare me.

 

[jurb26]

I look at it this way. Say both teams entering the Iron Bowl are undefeated. Auburn loses and now is Idle with 1 loss. Say a 1 loss Stanford plays an Undefeated Arizona for the PAC Championship. Arizona ends up losing and they end up out of the playoffs to an idle 1 loss SEC Team. Before that game no team who is undefeated and wins there half of the conference should be denied a spot in the Playoffs. With a loss in the championship game that can create question marks.

This whole system is flawed still because it does not address all the scenarios that can occur.

I did read of one proposition but with bowl implications don't know how it would play out but the scenario was all 11 conference champions get an invite and then you invite the top 5 remaining programs based on Strength of Schedule and the Coaches Poll (removing any bias from the public by not including the AP Poll) and you would have a 16 team playoff. To me that sounds lke a great suggestion but pulling it off would be tough.

I agree this system is terrible like the old system. It is less terrible, though. Until we get to 8 team playoff it will pretty much suck IMO.Edit. 12 feels like too many teams IMO. It would drag the season out longer than necessary. I like 8 so you can give the 5 power conference champs auto bids and then 3 at large teams based on highest ranking non champs via committee. That seems sufficient to me.

 

[Joe T]

Do people really wonder why the SEC is hated? So arrogant.

well, they do have 6 teams in the top 15 in the country in one side of the conference.

Here are those teams non-conf. wins too.

Alabama - WVU, FAU, Southern Miss

Auburn - K-State, San Jose, La Tech

Texas A&M - Lamar, Rice, SMU

Ole Miss - Boise, La Lafayette, Memphis

LSU - Wisconsin, New Mex St, La Monroe, Sam Houston St

Miss St - Southern Miss, UAB, South Alabama

So those 6 teams have combined to beat three teams basically (Wisconsin, WVU, K-State). I'm sure SEC reputation has NOTHING to do with a bunch of voters making up a top 25 list.

Voters only look at non-conference schedules now?

 

[hagmania]

Do people really wonder why the SEC is hated? So arrogant.

well, they do have 6 teams in the top 15 in the country in one side of the conference.

Here are those teams non-conf. wins too.

Alabama - WVU, FAU, Southern Miss

Auburn - K-State, San Jose, La Tech

Texas A&M - Lamar, Rice, SMU

Ole Miss - Boise, La Lafayette, Memphis

LSU - Wisconsin, New Mex St, La Monroe, Sam Houston St

Miss St - Southern Miss, UAB, South Alabama

So those 6 teams have combined to beat three teams basically (Wisconsin, WVU, K-State). I'm sure SEC reputation has NOTHING to do with a bunch of voters making up a top 25 list.

Voters only look at non-conference schedules now?

Well it's just a big circlejerk if you judge SEC teams on SEC wins alone.

 

[Guest]

If the remaining top 10 wins out tomorrow and factoring strength of schedule and giving added weight to victories over opponents currently ranked in Top 25 my 5 would be as follows:

1. Alabama

2. Oklahoma

3. Texas A&M

4. Auburn

5. Baylor

Pretty sure Oklahoma and Baylor play each other.

 

[jb1020]

I'm a state fan too and just don't see how the black rebel bears can even hang around. Bo will have to have a career game. They're too one dimensional, no running game. I hate rooting for bama but don't even want to think about having to put up with the OM friends I have if they won.In the state vs a&m game I hope we show up. Memories of UAB throwing all over the field scare me.

Honestly I think we treated the UAB game truly like an exhibition game. Preston and Jones never played on the same play. We never even tried to pressure the QB. Could be wrong, but I feel like we'll be a little more prepared. We'll definitely try and control the ball on offense.

I still think we win. Hating the 11am kick.

Come time for Bama OM we might should be rooting for OM???? I can't do it though, way too early.

 

[Joe T]

Guys, Arizona's win vs Oregon shouldn't help their rankings because it was in conference. Sorry. /Rambling Wreck

 

[Joe T]

Do people really wonder why the SEC is hated? So arrogant.

well, they do have 6 teams in the top 15 in the country in one side of the conference.

Here are those teams non-conf. wins too.

Alabama - WVU, FAU, Southern Miss

Auburn - K-State, San Jose, La Tech

Texas A&M - Lamar, Rice, SMU

Ole Miss - Boise, La Lafayette, Memphis

LSU - Wisconsin, New Mex St, La Monroe, Sam Houston St

Miss St - Southern Miss, UAB, South Alabama

So those 6 teams have combined to beat three teams basically (Wisconsin, WVU, K-State). I'm sure SEC reputation has NOTHING to do with a bunch of voters making up a top 25 list.

Voters only look at non-conference schedules now?

Well it's just a big circlejerk if you judge SEC teams on SEC wins alone.

Oh so if you beat a quality team in conference it is meaningless. Interesting.

 

[Emerson Biggens]

I'm a state fan too and just don't see how the black rebel bears can even hang around. Bo will have to have a career game. They're too one dimensional, no running game. I hate rooting for bama but don't even want to think about having to put up with the OM friends I have if they won.

In the state vs a&m game I hope we show up. Memories of UAB throwing all over the field scare me.

Honestly I think we treated the UAB game truly like an exhibition game. Preston and Jones never played on the same play. We never even tried to pressure the QB. Could be wrong, but I feel like we'll be a little more prepared. We'll definitely try and control the ball on offense.

I still think we win. Hating the 11am kick.

Come time for Bama OM we might should be rooting for OM???? I can't do it though, way too early.

They did get it together for the first real game so hopefully you're right. Man I can't imagine rooting for ole miss but yeah, we have a W already when they start I really won't care!

Edit to add my girlfriend is a huge Auburn fan so she'd rather eat ants than watch Alabama win.

 

[hagmania]

Do people really wonder why the SEC is hated? So arrogant.

well, they do have 6 teams in the top 15 in the country in one side of the conference.

Here are those teams non-conf. wins too.

Alabama - WVU, FAU, Southern Miss

Auburn - K-State, San Jose, La Tech

Texas A&M - Lamar, Rice, SMU

Ole Miss - Boise, La Lafayette, Memphis

LSU - Wisconsin, New Mex St, La Monroe, Sam Houston St

Miss St - Southern Miss, UAB, South Alabama

So those 6 teams have combined to beat three teams basically (Wisconsin, WVU, K-State). I'm sure SEC reputation has NOTHING to do with a bunch of voters making up a top 25 list.

Voters only look at non-conference schedules now?

Well it's just a big circlejerk if you judge SEC teams on SEC wins alone.

Oh so if you beat a quality team in conference it is meaningless. Interesting.

I said "alone" to signify that it's important to judge both imo.

I guess we're agreeing after some introspection on my reading comprehension.

 

[Tiger Fan]

I mean if they really wanted to do it "right" they'd have only 4 Power Conferences with a huge realignment, and the 4 conference winners play the bowl playoffs.

I said this years ago, except with 6 conferences and a few wild cards and was laughed away on this board b/c I said it would create all sorts of crazy realignment.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

I look at it this way. Say both teams entering the Iron Bowl are undefeated. Auburn loses and now is Idle with 1 loss. Say a 1 loss Stanford plays an Undefeated Arizona for the PAC Championship. Arizona ends up losing and they end up out of the playoffs to an idle 1 loss SEC Team. Before that game no team who is undefeated and wins there half of the conference should be denied a spot in the Playoffs (especially with the resume Arizona will have). With a loss in the championship game that can create question marks.

This whole system is flawed still because it does not address all the scenarios that can occur.

I did read of one proposition but with bowl implications don't know how it would play out but the scenario was all 11 conference champions get an invite and then you invite the top 5 remaining programs based on Strength of Schedule and the Coaches Poll (removing any bias from the public by not including the AP Poll) and you would have a 16 team playoff. To me that sounds lke a great suggestion but pulling it off would be tough.

Hasn't someone here been posting his projected mythical 16-team playoffs the past couple of years?

I'll probably do it again this season, and it will be a little more subjective without the BCS rankings to use as a guideline for the at-large picks. Need to wait a couple of weeks for some more games to be played before we can start projecting conference champions.

 

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UCLA

Oklahoma

Alabama

Florida State

UCLA had trouble with Memphis and you think they're one of the top four programs in the nation?

 

[hagmania]

UCLA

Oklahoma

Alabama

Florida State

UCLA had trouble with Memphis and you think they're one of the top four programs in the nation?

Ole Miss is counting Memphis as a HIGH QUALITY non-conference win imo.

 

[Emerson Biggens]

UCLA

Oklahoma

Alabama

Florida State

UCLA had trouble with Memphis and you think they're one of the top four programs in the nation?

Ole Miss is counting Memphis as a HIGH QUALITY non-conference win imo.

No they're not. They won and fell two spots in the polls. Memphis isn't good.

 

[hagmania]

UCLA

Oklahoma

Alabama

Florida State

UCLA had trouble with Memphis and you think they're one of the top four programs in the nation?

Ole Miss is counting Memphis as a HIGH QUALITY non-conference win imo.

No they're not. They won and fell two spots in the polls. Memphis isn't good.

We'll call it even.

 

[jurb26]

I mean if they really wanted to do it "right" they'd have only 4 Power Conferences with a huge realignment, and the 4 conference winners play the bowl playoffs.

I said this years ago, except with 6 conferences and a few wild cards and was laughed away on this board b/c I said it would create all sorts of crazy realignment.

I'm fully down with this idea. I'd like to see the schools get together and do it on their own and discard the NCAA altogether. I've talked about this for years with my friends actually.

 

[The Commish]

I personally think the Selection Committee should select the 4 playoff teams prior to Championship weekend so none of the conference championships come into play.

This is an interesting take. Care to expand on it? Seems to be the exact opposite of any theory I've ever heard on a playoff....especially one where the schedules are so significantly different with a 12 game sample size.

 

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Honestly, if you want the best 4 teams in the tournament you have to get 3 from SEC West. Somehow.

3 SEC teams and whomever is undefeated between FSU and Baylor/OU

Do people really wonder why the SEC is hated? So arrogant.

Huh? Culdeus isn't even an SEC guy... have you seen this proposed by any SEC honks?

Strange reply...

 

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UCLA

Oklahoma

Alabama

Florida State

UCLA had trouble with Memphis and you think they're one of the top four programs in the nation?

Ole Miss is counting Memphis as a HIGH QUALITY non-conference win imo.

Memphis' only other loss was a nail-biter to the pride of the PAC12 at home... and Ole Miss beat them much more handily than UCLA did

Just sayin....

 

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No they're not. They won and fell two spots in the polls. Memphis isn't good.

And then there's that... memphis are 3.5pt dogs to Cincinatti this weekend

 

[timschochet]

I think Oregon has a bunch of injuries to their offensive line. Tough to rip Mariota too much if he's running for his life.

Why? Nobody's given Brett Hundley a pass the past 2+ years when he's lost 3-4 starting OL per year and had true frosh starting in their place. Injuries are part of the game.

I'm not giving anyone a "pass." But this morning ,as a result of last night's game, a few people here suggested that Mariota is ranked too high by NFL experts for the draft. All I'm saying is that under the circumstances, I don't think that's especially fair.

 

[timschochet]

UCLA

Oklahoma

Alabama

Florida State

UCLA had trouble with Memphis and you think they're one of the top four programs in the nation?

When did I say that? I was just listing teams randomly, for no reason, off the top of my head.

Actually, those are the 4 teams I predict will be in the playoff at the end of the season. That doesn't necessarily make them the top 4 teams in the country; like March Madness, it makes them the most likely survivors, IMO. Admittedly UCLA is kind of a homer pick.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

I mean if they really wanted to do it "right" they'd have only 4 Power Conferences with a huge realignment, and the 4 conference winners play the bowl playoffs.

I said this years ago, except with 6 conferences and a few wild cards and was laughed away on this board b/c I said it would create all sorts of crazy realignment.

I'm fully down with this idea. I'd like to see the schools get together and do it on their own and discard the NCAA altogether. I've talked about this for years with my friends actually.

I mentioned this last week, several pages back, but how would the P5 be able to "do it on their own" without the G5 or even FCS?

Sure it would be great for a four-team playoff, but how do you factor the bowls into the equation? Right now, P5 teams are 134-15 against non-P5 teams this season. Take those away and force P5 schools to play each other exclusively in the nonconference (or as part of 16-team mega conferences) and you're looking at a net loss of ~ 60 wins so far this season. Those wins have to come from somewhere.

So what happens when the 7-5 and 6-6 teams that are just squeezing out bowl eligibility (many of them getting 1 W against FCS and maybe 1-2 others from playing Sun Belt, MAC, AAC, C-USA, etc.) suddenly find themselves finishing 5-7 or 4-8? Who fills all of those bowl slots? And while it might be great to keep all of that playoff money to themselves, what happens when some of that other bowl money starts to go away?

 

[MAC_32]

So...anyone want to talk about this weekend's awesome slate of games? I'm sure there's gotta be a few of you that don't want to just menstruate about the playoff that starts more than two months from now that will not involve several of the teams currently being discussed because this is college football and upsets happen.

Please?

I need something to do between innings and it isn't going to be work.

 

[jurb26]

I mean if they really wanted to do it "right" they'd have only 4 Power Conferences with a huge realignment, and the 4 conference winners play the bowl playoffs.

I said this years ago, except with 6 conferences and a few wild cards and was laughed away on this board b/c I said it would create all sorts of crazy realignment.

I'm fully down with this idea. I'd like to see the schools get together and do it on their own and discard the NCAA altogether. I've talked about this for years with my friends actually.

I mentioned this last week, several pages back, but how would the P5 be able to "do it on their own" without the G5 or even FCS?

Sure it would be great for a four-team playoff, but how do you factor the bowls into the equation? Right now, P5 teams are 134-15 against non-P5 teams this season. Take those away and force P5 schools to play each other exclusively in the nonconference (or as part of 16-team mega conferences) and you're looking at a net loss of ~ 60 wins so far this season. Those wins have to come from somewhere.

So what happens when the 7-5 and 6-6 teams that are just squeezing out bowl eligibility (many of them getting 1 W against FCS and maybe 1-2 others from playing Sun Belt, MAC, AAC, C-USA, etc.) suddenly find themselves finishing 5-7 or 4-8? Who fills all of those bowl slots? And while it might be great to keep all of that playoff money to themselves, what happens when some of that other bowl money starts to go away?

Early on it would be tough for the teams outside the current P5. Over time it would help grow competitiveness IMO, though. The revenue sharing model would balance out and the teams outside of those P5 could add a feather in their cap for recruiting. Which is why it will likely never happen. The P5 schools like their stranglehold, relatively speaking, on the college football world and money.

 

[Emerson Biggens]

So...anyone want to talk about this weekend's awesome slate of games? I'm sure there's gotta be a few of you that don't want to just menstruate about the playoff that starts more than two months from now that will not involve several of the teams currently being discussed because this is college football and upsets happen.

Please?

I need something to do between innings and it isn't going to be work.

I haven't been this excited about a day of college football probably ever. I even opened an account to wager on some of them!

 

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Yep.

The GF already knows I'm doing a date thing in the AM with her downtown, then disappearing to a buddies place around 10:30am and will see her "later".

 

[JaxBill]

I mean if they really wanted to do it "right" they'd have only 4 Power Conferences with a huge realignment, and the 4 conference winners play the bowl playoffs.

I said this years ago, except with 6 conferences and a few wild cards and was laughed away on this board b/c I said it would create all sorts of crazy realignment.

I'm fully down with this idea. I'd like to see the schools get together and do it on their own and discard the NCAA altogether. I've talked about this for years with my friends actually.

I mentioned this last week, several pages back, but how would the P5 be able to "do it on their own" without the G5 or even FCS?

Sure it would be great for a four-team playoff, but how do you factor the bowls into the equation? Right now, P5 teams are 134-15 against non-P5 teams this season. Take those away and force P5 schools to play each other exclusively in the nonconference (or as part of 16-team mega conferences) and you're looking at a net loss of ~ 60 wins so far this season. Those wins have to come from somewhere.

So what happens when the 7-5 and 6-6 teams that are just squeezing out bowl eligibility (many of them getting 1 W against FCS and maybe 1-2 others from playing Sun Belt, MAC, AAC, C-USA, etc.) suddenly find themselves finishing 5-7 or 4-8? Who fills all of those bowl slots? And while it might be great to keep all of that playoff money to themselves, what happens when some of that other bowl money starts to go away?

The bowls need the P5 conferences more than the other way around. If the P5 conferences committed to an expanded playoff, the TV money would dwarf the bowl money and the bowls would either go away entirely or be treated with the disdain that English Premier League teams treat the Capiatl One (nee Carling) Cup.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

One other thing to consider: What happens when the P5 schools start to lose all of those "extra" home games they play each season?

It's great that my G5 school can make $1M or more to travel to Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State, Notre Dame, Florida, etc. But clearly there is an economic benefit for the other side as well beyond just getting an "easy" win. Otherwise, why bother.

What happens when suddenly all of these teams in a proposed 16-team superconference, or whatever, suddenly find they can only play six home games each year instead of seven (or even eight)?

 

[JaxBill]

So with all of the attention that ESPN is giving the state of MIssissippi, which one has a better chance to win?

 

[culdeus]

I'm shooting assault rifles at the range at 10am, then heading to a breastaurant, then most likely will need uber at some point. I wonder if he'll be cool with all the firepower.

 

[B-Deep]

The fact that a college team can play a 12 game schedule with 8 home games is astonishingly insane to me

 

[Spartans Rule]

So...anyone want to talk about this weekend's awesome slate of games? I'm sure there's gotta be a few of you that don't want to just menstruate about the playoff that starts more than two months from now that will not involve several of the teams currently being discussed because this is college football and upsets happen.

Please?

I need something to do between innings and it isn't going to be work.

It is kind of ridiculous how much talk this thing gets. Last weekend I'm watching Michigan State obliterate Wyoming and Matt Millen starts babbling about how MSU needs to win big to impress the committee. Really?

 

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I'm shooting assault rifles at the range at 10am, then heading to a breastaurant, then most likely will need uber at some point. I wonder if he'll be cool with all the firepower.

That's my kinda day.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

No but the wife is. If they're going to crap in our food I'll just eat at the hotel.

Nobody will mess with your food. The rivalry between FL and UT has died down considerably since the Fulmer/Spurrier era, and it wasn't really an issue then.

You're good to go

Fans in Knoxville are pretty hospitable, nothing to worry about here.

Agreed. My experience in Knoxville for the last two UT/UF games has been that Tennessee fans have largely given up. Everyone I've talked to or hung out with there has mostly been "you guys are going to kick our ### but let's have a good time".

Of course, there's more optimism up there now but Tennessee fans have always been pretty hospitable folk. Not like going to an Alabama game where they're just as likely to tell you that they're going to skull#### your dead grandma as they are to tell you "good game".

 

[MAC_32]

So...anyone want to talk about this weekend's awesome slate of games? I'm sure there's gotta be a few of you that don't want to just menstruate about the playoff that starts more than two months from now that will not involve several of the teams currently being discussed because this is college football and upsets happen.

Please?

I need something to do between innings and it isn't going to be work.

It is kind of ridiculous how much talk this thing gets. Last weekend I'm watching Michigan State obliterate Wyoming and Matt Millen starts babbling about how MSU needs to win big to impress the committee. Really?