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Obviously coming from a biased pov here, but is Gene Chizik the Worst Coach with a Ring Ever? Its by a mile in the BCS era anyway.Look at his record at ISU and AU without Cam. He makes Mike Shula look like Bear Bryant.
No doubt about it
22-33. In 2.5 years in this conference he's never beaten his 4 yearly rivals in Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, and UGA...and was normally blown out.He's turned AU into Ole Miss...he' s like a in-house imposed NCAA probation.
 
'gump said:
Obviously coming from a biased pov here, but is Gene Chizik the Worst Coach with a Ring Ever? Its by a mile in the BCS era anyway.

Look at his record at ISU and AU without Cam. He makes Mike Shula look like Bear Bryant.
Certainly bias can play into it, but I don't think you're going to get much argument on this. Just curious how bad they have to get before they actually fire him. A Natty can get in the way of rationale decision making on sacking a coach I'm sure
 
'hammerva said:
Texas has done nothing to stop the WVU offense and are 3 for 3 in 4th down calls. And the defense actually made two stops in a row :excited: :excited:
I missed the end of this game but am looking at the box. Is the Texas defense really this bad? It's like they'd never seen such an offense before yet half the teams in the Big 12 run it (though none as well tbf)
 
nice slate of top 25 matchups this week:

SC #3 at #8 LSU

KSU #5 at #25 ISU

Stanford #17 at # 7 ND

UT #15 vs #10 OU

A&M #22 at #24 La Tech

and a really weird one as #14 Or St travels to unranked BYU where they are a 4 point underdog

 
shocking fact: there is not a single B1G team in the top 25 in the Coaches Poll (OSU not eligible)
Not sure why it's shocking :shrug: They typically start out near the bottom of the preseason polls. A couple losses and they are out of the polls. That's certain to happen once they get into conference play. They don't have the luxury of being a SEC team like UGA who starts way higher than they should and only drops 5-6 places after getting embarrassed. There'll be teams that creep back in next week after wins. Reality is the B1G is down. Heck, I'd even say the ACC is a bit better (certainly at the top).
 
shocking fact: there is not a single B1G team in the top 25 in the Coaches Poll (OSU not eligible)
Not sure why it's shocking :shrug: They typically start out near the bottom of the preseason polls. A couple losses and they are out of the polls. That's certain to happen once they get into conference play. They don't have the luxury of being a SEC team like UGA who starts way higher than they should and only drops 5-6 places after getting embarrassed. There'll be teams that creep back in next week after wins. Reality is the B1G is down. Heck, I'd even say the ACC is a bit better (certainly at the top).
this is the first week in the history of the coaches poll that this is true
 
shocking fact: there is not a single B1G team in the top 25 in the Coaches Poll (OSU not eligible)
Not sure why it's shocking :shrug: They typically start out near the bottom of the preseason polls. A couple losses and they are out of the polls. That's certain to happen once they get into conference play. They don't have the luxury of being a SEC team like UGA who starts way higher than they should and only drops 5-6 places after getting embarrassed. There'll be teams that creep back in next week after wins. Reality is the B1G is down. Heck, I'd even say the ACC is a bit better (certainly at the top).
this is the first week in the history of the coaches poll that this is true
And it's true because of the "ineligibility" of OSU. I still don't get why it's a big deal :shrug: We can move on.
 
shocking fact: there is not a single B1G team in the top 25 in the Coaches Poll (OSU not eligible)
Not sure why it's shocking :shrug: They typically start out near the bottom of the preseason polls. A couple losses and they are out of the polls. That's certain to happen once they get into conference play. They don't have the luxury of being a SEC team like UGA who starts way higher than they should and only drops 5-6 places after getting embarrassed. There'll be teams that creep back in next week after wins. Reality is the B1G is down. Heck, I'd even say the ACC is a bit better (certainly at the top).
this is the first week in the history of the coaches poll that this is true
And it's true because of the "ineligibility" of OSU. I still don't get why it's a big deal :shrug: We can move on.
No we can't. The Big 10 sucks this year. We must harp on it. it really sucks this year. Don't you understand? It really REALLY sucks this year.
 
No one's defending the Big Ten....HTH. I just don't see why the fifth coaches' poll of the season not having a Big Ten team in it is "shocking"....again....we can move on.

 
No one's defending the Big Ten....HTH. I just don't see why the fifth coaches' poll of the season not having a Big Ten team in it is "shocking"....again....we can move on.
It's not shocking, which is...well, shocking. The Big 10 used to be the marquee conference and now it's just an also-ran. I don't follow Iowa enough to explain what's going on there, but I really thought at least Michigan St and Wisconsin were making a push to be a perennial contender. Mix them in with an up-and-coming Northwestern, Purdue, and Michigan, newcomer Nebraska, and a one year hiatus from Ohio St and I thought it'd start getting on the right track.Sparty and the Badgers have been awful, Nebraska too, and the rest are still in the growth stage. Ohio St, Michigan, and Northwestern are the only teams in this conference I can watch right now for more than a few mins at a time and the middle one is only because I'm a fan - it's been pretty fugly this year. Little-to-no growth whatsoever.I found myself watching Ohio U this past weekend.
 
No one's defending the Big Ten....HTH. I just don't see why the fifth coaches' poll of the season not having a Big Ten team in it is "shocking"....again....we can move on.
It's not shocking, which is...well, shocking. The Big 10 used to be the marquee conference and now it's just an also-ran. I don't follow Iowa enough to explain what's going on there, but I really thought at least Michigan St and Wisconsin were making a push to be a perennial contender. Mix them in with an up-and-coming Northwestern, Purdue, and Michigan, newcomer Nebraska, and a one year hiatus from Ohio St and I thought it'd start getting on the right track.Sparty and the Badgers have been awful, Nebraska too, and the rest are still in the growth stage. Ohio St, Michigan, and Northwestern are the only teams in this conference I can watch right now for more than a few mins at a time and the middle one is only because I'm a fan - it's been pretty fugly this year. Little-to-no growth whatsoever.I found myself watching Ohio U this past weekend.
What were you expecting out of MSU and Wisky exactly? Each lost the heart of their teams and clearly didn't have another heart to replace them. Perhaps I'm just a pessimist and assume these kinds of starts? But remember what we are talking about here. We're talking about a specific poll on the fifth week of the season. The tidbit might be "interesting" but I find it far from "shocking". It's going to be a couple years before there are 4-5 really good teams in this conference. Better batten down the hatches!
 
No one's defending the Big Ten....HTH. I just don't see why the fifth coaches' poll of the season not having a Big Ten team in it is "shocking"....again....we can move on.
It's not shocking, which is...well, shocking. The Big 10 used to be the marquee conference and now it's just an also-ran. I don't follow Iowa enough to explain what's going on there, but I really thought at least Michigan St and Wisconsin were making a push to be a perennial contender. Mix them in with an up-and-coming Northwestern, Purdue, and Michigan, newcomer Nebraska, and a one year hiatus from Ohio St and I thought it'd start getting on the right track.Sparty and the Badgers have been awful, Nebraska too, and the rest are still in the growth stage. Ohio St, Michigan, and Northwestern are the only teams in this conference I can watch right now for more than a few mins at a time and the middle one is only because I'm a fan - it's been pretty fugly this year. Little-to-no growth whatsoever.I found myself watching Ohio U this past weekend.
What were you expecting out of MSU and Wisky exactly?
Reloading, not rebuilding, I thought they were there - dead wrong.
 
Ohio State is overranked as it is...ahead of LSU and USC in a poll, uhhh, I don't think so. Either team would embarras the Buckeyes.

- Legends and Leaders

 
Ohio State is overranked as it is...ahead of LSU and USC in a poll, uhhh, I don't think so. Either team would embarras the Buckeyes.- Legends and Leaders
No reason LSU should be ahead of them. Losing ugly, a near-miss on an ugly loss, and struggling vs. Towson. Towson! May be a better team, but - do it on the field.USC? Could go either way, but it's the Trojans fault for losing. Win games, stay at the top - simple formula.
 
You guys are ranking Notre Dame too high. They've played some good teams, but no great teams yet. I predict both Stanford and USC beat them.
I think Notre Dame will wax Stanford. I think Notre Dame will beat USC in a low scoring game, like 14-10. USC won't be able to run on Notre Dame.
 
Obviously coming from a biased pov here, but is Gene Chizik the Worst Coach with a Ring Ever? Its by a mile in the BCS era anyway.Look at his record at ISU and AU without Cam. He makes Mike Shula look like Bear Bryant.
The worst and best thing to ever happen to Auburn was Cam Newton. Yes he brought them a national championship ring, but at the cost of masking how terrible of a coach Chizik is. Chizik would already be fired if it wasn't for Newton. Newton secured Chizik a few more years.
 
nice slate of top 25 matchups this week:

SC #3 at #8 LSU
I'm curious to see how LSU responds. This game is in Death Valley with a 6pm kickoff. The stadium should be rowdy. injuries keep plaguing LSU though. True Freshman and starting SLB, Kwon Alexander is out for the season with a broken ankle. When he went out last week (and Minter was out with and injury that drive as well) was the drive in the 3rd quarter when Florida started running down LSU's throat.LSU will win this game if:

1. They stop the run. Latimer needs to be wrapped up stopped at the line.

2. LSU's O-Line can lick their wombs, get some injured guys back and open holes for the HBs. LSU needs to run for 200 yards.

 
shocking fact: there is not a single B1G team in the top 25 in the Coaches Poll (OSU not eligible)
Not sure why it's shocking :shrug: They typically start out near the bottom of the preseason polls. A couple losses and they are out of the polls. That's certain to happen once they get into conference play. They don't have the luxury of being a SEC team like UGA who starts way higher than they should and only drops 5-6 places after getting embarrassed. There'll be teams that creep back in next week after wins. Reality is the B1G is down. Heck, I'd even say the ACC is a bit better (certainly at the top).
The SEC teams are ranked so high because the SEC as a conference is 10x's better than the Big Ten. I should have known you were a Big Ten homer, the way your jealously of the SEC oozes out.
 
'LHUCKS said:
Ohio State is overranked as it is...ahead of LSU and USC in a poll, uhhh, I don't think so. Either team would embarras the Buckeyes.- Legends and Leaders
LOL...I don't know about that. I'm a huge LSU fan and I don't think LSU is a top 10 team right now. I'd put them between 15-10. The offense is a cluster ####. The defense can only keep you in so many games.
 
This weeks TV schedule. Good games in bold. All times central*

Thursday, October 11th

Western Kentucky at Troy 6:30 p.m. ESPNU (HD) / espn3 *9

DII: Stillman at Tuskegee 6:30 p.m. CSS (cable)

UTEP at Tulsa 7:00 p.m. FSN Affiliates (HD) / FCSC (cable)

DII: Wayne State (Mich.) at Saginaw Valley 7:00 p.m. CBSSN (HD)

Arizona State at Colorado 8:00 p.m. ESPN (HD)

Friday, October 12th

Navy at Central Michigan 7:00 p.m. ESPN2 (HD) / espn3 *9

Saturday, October 13th

Louisville at Pittsburgh 10:00 a.m. ESPNU (HD)

Brown at Princeton 11:00 a.m. NBCSN (HD)

Iowa at Michigan State 11:00 a.m. ESPN (HD) (3D) / espn3 *9

Kansas State at Iowa State 11:00 a.m. FX (HD)

Kent State at Army 11:00 a.m. CBSSN (HD)

Lafayette at Yale 11:00 a.m. ESPN-GP / espn3 / LSN (cable)

DII: Mercyhurst at Gannon 11:00 a.m. RSPI

Northwestern at Minnesota 11:00 a.m. ESPN2 (HD) / espn3 *9

Oklahoma vs. Texas (Dallas) 11:00 a.m. ABC (HD)

Richmond at New Hampshire 11:00 a.m. (CSNE / CSMA) *5 / TCN (cable)

Syracuse at Rutgers 11:00 a.m. SNY / MASN / CSCA / ESPN-GP / ERTV / espn3

UAB at Houston 11:00 a.m. FSN Affiliates (HD) / FCSC (cable)

Wisconsin at Purdue 11:00 a.m. BTN (HD)

Auburn at Ole Miss 11:21 a.m. SEC Network *4 / ESPN-GP / espn3

Duke at Virginia Tech 11:30 a.m. (ESPN-GP / espn3) *2 / ACC Network (HD) *3

Liberty at Presbyterian 1:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / Flames Sports (cable) / espn3

North Carolina at Miami 1:30 p.m. ESPNU (HD) / espn3 *9

Maryland at Virginia 2:00 p.m. FSN Affiliates (HD) / ESPN-GP

Utah at UCLA 2:00 p.m. FOX (HD)

Alabama at Missouri 2:30 p.m. CBS (HD) / cbssports.com

Bucknell at Harvard 2:30 p.m. CBSSN (HD)

Buffalo at Northern Illinois 2:30 p.m. CSNC *5

Eastern Washington at Montana State 2:30 p.m. RSRM / RSNW / DirecTV: 239-1

Fresno State at Boise State 2:30 p.m. NBCSN (HD)

Illinois at Michigan 2:30 p.m. (ABC (HD) / ESPN (HD)) *7

Oklahoma State at Kansas 2:30 p.m. FSN Affiliates (HD) / FCSC (cable)

Oregon State at BYU 2:30 p.m. (ABC (HD) / ESPN (HD)) *7 / ESPN-GP?

Stanford at Notre Dame 2:30 p.m. NBC (HD) / nbcsports.com

West Virginia at Texas Tech 2:30 p.m. (ABC (HD) / ESPN (HD)) *7 / ESPN-GP?

William & Mary at James Madison 2:30 p.m. ESPN-GP / (CSCA / CSMA) *5 / TCN (cable)

Indiana State at North Dakota State 3:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / ND NBC (cable) / espn3

Northwestern State at Southeastern LA 3:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / SLCTV (cable / Video) / espn3

Utah State at San Jose State 3:00 p.m. ALT / MASN / CSBA / ESPN-GP / ERTV / espn3

Boston College at Florida State 4:30 p.m. ESPN2 (HD)

Florida at Vanderbilt 5:00 p.m. ESPNU (HD)

Air Force at Wyoming 6:00 p.m. RSRM

Idaho at Texas State 6:00 p.m. ALT (HD) / cable

Kentucky at Arkansas 6:00 p.m. Fox Sports South *6 (HD) / ESPN-GP

TCU at Baylor 6:00 p.m. FSN Affiliates (HD) / FCSC (cable)

USC at Washington 6:00 p.m. FOX (HD)

Western Illinois at South Dakota State 6:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / Mediacom (cable) / espn3

Florida Atlantic at Louisiana Monroe 7:00 p.m. (ESPN-GP / espn3) *5 / Sun Belt Network

Ohio State at Indiana 7:00 p.m. BTN (HD) / btn2go.com

South Carolina at LSU 7:00 p.m. ESPN (HD)

Southern Miss at UCF 7:00 p.m. CBSSN (HD)

Tennessee at Mississippi State 8:00 p.m. ESPN2 (HD)

Texas A&M at Louisiana Tech (Shreveport) 8:15 p.m. ESPNU (HD)

California at Washington State 9:30 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com

New Mexico at Hawaii 11:00 p.m. RSRM *5 / Oceanic PPV

Games online only or not yet scheduled for nationally available networks.

Akron at Ohio 1:00 p.m. espn3

Austin Peay at Eastern Kentucky 2:00 p.m. OVC

Central Arkansas at McNeese State 7:00 p.m. espn3

Chattanooga at Furman 12:30 p.m. espn3

Colorado State at San Diego State 5:30 p.m. (KTVD / TW) (cable)

Duquesne at CCSU 11:00 a.m. NEC Front Row

Fordham at Cincinnati 6:00 p.m. espn3

Jacksonville State at Eastern Illinois 1:30 p.m. WEIU TV (cable) / OVC

McMurry at Lamar 7:00 p.m. Video

Memphis at East Carolina 3:30 p.m. CSS (cable)

Miami Ohio at Bowling Green 2:30 p.m. espn3 / BCSN

Middle Tennessee at Florida International 5:00 p.m. TBA

Morehead State at Dayton 12:00 p.m. Video

Nevada at UNLV 2:00 p.m. (TW / Charter / Cox (NV)) (cable) / espn3

Northern Arizona at North Dakota 3:00 p.m. Midco Sports (cable) / Big Sky

Northern Colorado at Cal Poly 8:00 p.m. KSBY (cable) / Big Sky

Robert Morris at Bryant 12:00 p.m. NEC Front Row

SMU at Tulane 12:00 p.m. CSS (cable)

South Alabama at Arkansas State 6:00 p.m. TBA

South Dakota at Missouri State 1:00 p.m. (Mediacom / KDLT) (cable)

Southern Utah at Montana 2:30 p.m. Max Media (cable) / Big Sky

Stony Brook at Coastal Carolina 2:30 p.m. espn3

Temple at Connecticut 12:00 p.m. espn3

Tennessee State at Southeast Missouri 6:00 p.m. OVC

Toledo at Eastern Michigan 12:00 p.m. TBA

UC Davis at Idaho State 6:00 p.m. Big Sky

UT Martin at Murray State 5:45 p.m. Racer TV (cable) / OVC

UTSA at Rice 2:30 p.m. FCSP (cable)

Weber State at Sacramento State 8:00 p.m. Big Sky

Western Michigan at Ball State 2:00 p.m. espn3

Wofford at Georgia Southern 5:00 p.m. Video?

Youngstown State at Illinois State 1:00 p.m. WBCB (cable) / espn3

 
shocking fact: there is not a single B1G team in the top 25 in the Coaches Poll (OSU not eligible)
Not sure why it's shocking :shrug: They typically start out near the bottom of the preseason polls. A couple losses and they are out of the polls. That's certain to happen once they get into conference play. They don't have the luxury of being a SEC team like UGA who starts way higher than they should and only drops 5-6 places after getting embarrassed. There'll be teams that creep back in next week after wins. Reality is the B1G is down. Heck, I'd even say the ACC is a bit better (certainly at the top).
The SEC teams are ranked so high because the SEC as a conference is 10x's better than the Big Ten. I should have known you were a Big Ten homer, the way your jealously of the SEC oozes out.
Oh good...got the UNCC to the SEC guy here :rolleyes: Am I a B1G "homer" because I want all the teams to lose all the time? Is that what makes me a homer? Or is it because I think it's hysterical people put value in the polls this time of year to garner something "shocking" out of them? Or is it because I would probably rank the ACC above them at this point? :popcorn: I didn't think you could be more wrong than you are in the political threads, but it turns out, I was indeed wrong about that :lol:
 
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nice slate of top 25 matchups this week:

SC #3 at #8 LSU
I'm curious to see how LSU responds. This game is in Death Valley with a 6pm kickoff. The stadium should be rowdy. injuries keep plaguing LSU though. True Freshman and starting SLB, Kwon Alexander is out for the season with a broken ankle. When he went out last week (and Minter was out with and injury that drive as well) was the drive in the 3rd quarter when Florida started running down LSU's throat.LSU will win this game if:

1. They stop the run. Latimer needs to be wrapped up stopped at the line.

2. LSU's O-Line can lick their wombs, get some injured guys back and open holes for the HBs. LSU needs to run for 200 yards.
Stopping Shaw from running will be the real key.
 
shocking fact: there is not a single B1G team in the top 25 in the Coaches Poll (OSU not eligible)
Not sure why it's shocking :shrug: They typically start out near the bottom of the preseason polls. A couple losses and they are out of the polls. That's certain to happen once they get into conference play. They don't have the luxury of being a SEC team like UGA who starts way higher than they should and only drops 5-6 places after getting embarrassed. There'll be teams that creep back in next week after wins. Reality is the B1G is down. Heck, I'd even say the ACC is a bit better (certainly at the top).
The SEC teams are ranked so high because the SEC as a conference is 10x's better than the Big Ten. I should have known you were a Big Ten homer, the way your jealously of the SEC oozes out.
Oh good...got the UNCC to the SEC guy here :rolleyes: Am I a B1G "homer" because I want all the teams to lose all the time? Is that what makes me a homer? Or is it because I think it's hysterical people put value in the polls this time of year to garner something "shocking" out of them? I didn't think you could be more wrong than you are in the political threads, but it turns out, I was indeed wrong about that :lol:
First of all, I made a simple observation about UNCC. I said it was a possibility, not a fact and I put some quality reasons behind it.Second, the political threads are about opinions and I am right in my opinions, according to me. I know you are a bleeding heart liberal and make some tree hugging comments in the political threads, which according to me are wrong.

Then you come into this thread and start #####ing that the polls are biased for the SEC and that the B1G doesn't get the luxury of having many top 25 teams. Cry me a river. Your jealousy is coming out loud and clear. The B1G would have more teams ranked if they won. There is no conspiracy. You win, you get ranked high. It's very simple.

If you don't like the polls, then don't pay attention to them.

 
shocking fact: there is not a single B1G team in the top 25 in the Coaches Poll (OSU not eligible)
Not sure why it's shocking :shrug: They typically start out near the bottom of the preseason polls. A couple losses and they are out of the polls. That's certain to happen once they get into conference play. They don't have the luxury of being a SEC team like UGA who starts way higher than they should and only drops 5-6 places after getting embarrassed. There'll be teams that creep back in next week after wins. Reality is the B1G is down. Heck, I'd even say the ACC is a bit better (certainly at the top).
The SEC teams are ranked so high because the SEC as a conference is 10x's better than the Big Ten. I should have known you were a Big Ten homer, the way your jealously of the SEC oozes out.
Oh good...got the UNCC to the SEC guy here :rolleyes: Am I a B1G "homer" because I want all the teams to lose all the time? Is that what makes me a homer? Or is it because I think it's hysterical people put value in the polls this time of year to garner something "shocking" out of them? I didn't think you could be more wrong than you are in the political threads, but it turns out, I was indeed wrong about that :lol:
First of all, I made a simple observation about UNCC. I said it was a possibility, not a fact and I put some quality reasons behind it.Second, the political threads are about opinions and I am right in my opinions, according to me. I know you are a bleeding heart liberal and make some tree hugging comments in the political threads, which according to me are wrong.

Then you come into this thread and start #####ing that the polls are biased for the SEC and that the B1G doesn't get the luxury of having many top 25 teams. Cry me a river. Your jealousy is coming out loud and clear. The B1G would have more teams ranked if they won. There is no conspiracy. You win, you get ranked high. It's very simple.

If you don't like the polls, then don't pay attention to them.
Apparently, you have the reading comprehension of a gnat if you come up with the first bold statement and can't read at all if you think this is my position regarding the polls of the BCS era :loco: But, please, carry on....it's a slow Monday :popcorn:

 
'LHUCKS said:
Ohio State is overranked as it is...ahead of LSU and USC in a poll, uhhh, I don't think so. Either team would embarras the Buckeyes.- Legends and Leaders
Absolutely. Let's worry about where a team, who is completely ineligible to play in any postseason game, is ranked in a convoluted poll, based on made up factors.
 
'LHUCKS said:
Ohio State is overranked as it is...ahead of LSU and USC in a poll, uhhh, I don't think so. Either team would embarras the Buckeyes.- Legends and Leaders
Absolutely. Let's worry about where a team, who is completely ineligible to play in any postseason game, is ranked in a convoluted poll, based on made up factors.
Not sure I could have said it better myself :hifive: :lol:
 
Obviously coming from a biased pov here, but is Gene Chizik the Worst Coach with a Ring Ever? Its by a mile in the BCS era anyway.Look at his record at ISU and AU without Cam. He makes Mike Shula look like Bear Bryant.
The worst and best thing to ever happen to Auburn was Cam Newton. Yes he brought them a national championship ring, but at the cost of masking how terrible of a coach Chizik is. Chizik would already be fired if it wasn't for Newton. Newton secured Chizik a few more years.
Auburn wasn't in a situation like LSU/Bama where they were a perennial top 5 team that always had a shot. I'd imagine most Auburn fans (as with most teams) would take ~3 years of being worse than normal in exchange for a national championship.
 
Obviously coming from a biased pov here, but is Gene Chizik the Worst Coach with a Ring Ever? Its by a mile in the BCS era anyway.Look at his record at ISU and AU without Cam. He makes Mike Shula look like Bear Bryant.
The worst and best thing to ever happen to Auburn was Cam Newton. Yes he brought them a national championship ring, but at the cost of masking how terrible of a coach Chizik is. Chizik would already be fired if it wasn't for Newton. Newton secured Chizik a few more years.
Auburn wasn't in a situation like LSU/Bama where they were a perennial top 5 team that always had a shot. I'd imagine most Auburn fans (as with most teams) would take ~3 years of being worse than normal in exchange for a national championship.
If that were true, Tuberville would still be there after going undefeated in 2004.
 
Obviously coming from a biased pov here, but is Gene Chizik the Worst Coach with a Ring Ever? Its by a mile in the BCS era anyway.Look at his record at ISU and AU without Cam. He makes Mike Shula look like Bear Bryant.
The worst and best thing to ever happen to Auburn was Cam Newton. Yes he brought them a national championship ring, but at the cost of masking how terrible of a coach Chizik is. Chizik would already be fired if it wasn't for Newton. Newton secured Chizik a few more years.
Auburn wasn't in a situation like LSU/Bama where they were a perennial top 5 team that always had a shot. I'd imagine most Auburn fans (as with most teams) would take ~3 years of being worse than normal in exchange for a national championship.
Outside of the 1 year Cam played, Auburn has been terrible compared to how they were before Chizik got there. Did you forget that Auburn went 13-0 the year Texas won the 'Ship? Auburn would have played in the BCS 'ship had USC and Texas not been undefeated that year.Auburn has been a top 10 team for the last 15 years except for the years under Chizik, sans Cam's year and the last year under Tubby.
 
Obviously coming from a biased pov here, but is Gene Chizik the Worst Coach with a Ring Ever? Its by a mile in the BCS era anyway.Look at his record at ISU and AU without Cam. He makes Mike Shula look like Bear Bryant.
The worst and best thing to ever happen to Auburn was Cam Newton. Yes he brought them a national championship ring, but at the cost of masking how terrible of a coach Chizik is. Chizik would already be fired if it wasn't for Newton. Newton secured Chizik a few more years.
Auburn wasn't in a situation like LSU/Bama where they were a perennial top 5 team that always had a shot. I'd imagine most Auburn fans (as with most teams) would take ~3 years of being worse than normal in exchange for a national championship.
Outside of the 1 year Cam played, Auburn has been terrible compared to how they were before Chizik got there. Did you forget that Auburn went 13-0 the year Texas won the 'Ship? Auburn would have played in the BCS 'ship had USC and Texas not been undefeated that year.Auburn has been a top 10 team for the last 15 years except for the years under Chizik, sans Cam's year and the last year under Tubby.
If you look at the last 30 champ teams....and the 2 seasons following their championship....only twice has a school gone .500 or below. '88 Penn State and '92 Georgia Tech both went 5-6.This season is going to be historically bad.
 

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