*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (3 Viewers)

[Steve Tasker]

21-7 UCONN.

Pasqualicious

 

[Raider Nation]

Utah/BYU just started on ESPN2.

Cougs with the old-school McMahon/Young/Detmer blue jerseys.

 

[Christo]

Odd that lsu stadium seems only 60% full if that.

I had a friend text me at 7:45 saying he was heading to a bar. Those Cajuns don't like the rain apparently.

 

[Raider Nation]

I really need to know how this UCONN team lost by 15 at home to TOWSON.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The American Athletic Conference: We took all the schools no one else would have.

 

[Raider Nation]

THAT is how you lose to Towson. What a terrible decision.

 

[Premier]

I really need to know how this UCONN team lost by 15 at home to TOWSON.

They are terrible. So is the AAC. God awful conference.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Better athletes winning every snap now.

 

[dparker713]

That's a fat kicker

 

[Raider Nation]

I can't imagine UCONN gets into FG range before they turn the ball over again.

 

[Christo]

It's like they're trying to lose.

 

[Raider Nation]

It's like they're trying to lose.

Curious decision there to take a timeout and then go for a 4th and 30. With 2 TO's left (before they used it), you could get the ball back in decent field position with about a minute left. Forcing a 3-and-out seems more likely than converting this 4th down.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

ugh

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Now watch Michigan bury Ohio St at the end of the year

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Kill me... Atleast the Tigers are making a huge comeback cuz UM looks like a joke

Good seats still available for the Meineke Car Care Bowl.

A Michigan/Georgia Tech Beef O'Brady Bowl would be awesome.

The BOB isn't affiliated with the BIG 10, unfortunately. It's either the Meineke Bowl or the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl.

Well played jinx as always gb.

 

[Raider Nation]

It was never in doubt. They just had to wake up.

 

[derek245583]

Now watch Michigan bury Ohio St at the end of the year

They might, but they will be about 6-5 going into the game. They stink.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Now watch Michigan bury Ohio St at the end of the year

They might, but they will be about 6-5 going into the game. They stink.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

It was never in doubt. They just had to wake up.

A RichRod coached Michigan team would get endless about how the team was ill-prepared or unmotivated. Hoke's team is "rebuilding." I find this obnoxious, no consistency at all in fandom I suppose. If they play like this vs Northwestern or even Penn State or Nebraska, they're gonna get run.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I really need to know how this UCONN team lost by 15 at home to TOWSON.

They are terrible. So is the AAC. God awful conference.

Seems like a down year across the board, or maybe just a lot of the field is leveling. I mean Alabama is the standard, but they don;t even seem as good as they have been. Florida is meh, OU is down, Texas is laughable, USC is horrendous, the Big Ten is still ####ty besides Ohio State and Maryland is one of the best teams in the ACC. I mean it seems like it's Alabama and a bunch of question marks.

 

[dparker713]

God, I miss being around the UT co-eds

 

[Raider Nation]

The Longhorns save Mack's job!

Spoiler

... for another week

 

[dparker713]

I really need to know how this UCONN team lost by 15 at home to TOWSON.

They are terrible. So is the AAC. God awful conference.

Seems like a down year across the board, or maybe just a lot of the field is leveling. I mean Alabama is the standard, but they don;t even seem as good as they have been. Florida is meh, OU is down, Texas is laughable, USC is horrendous, the Big Ten is still ####ty besides Ohio State and Maryland is one of the best teams in the ACC. I mean it seems like it's Alabama and a bunch of question marks.

I don't know, Oregon and Clemson have looked pretty good this season. Mariotta and Boyd are pretty special players.

 

[ffldrew]

Brett Smith QB for Wyoming against Air Force - 23/26 270yds - 4Tds + 11 carries for 140yds and a TD

.....for the first half

 

[Raider Nation]

BYU's RB just jammed his neck getting tackled. Getting his helmet removed and he's not moving at all.

Terrible. :(

 

[Raider Nation]

Brett Smith QB for Wyoming against Air Force - 23/26 270yds - 4Tds + 11 carries for 140yds and a TD

.....for the first half

In place of the names on the back of Wyoming's jerseys are words like "Respect", "Honor", "Commitment" and "Integrity"....

as they hang a C-note on the overmatched Air Force defense.

 

[Ilov80s]

It was never in doubt. They just had to wake up.

A RichRod coached Michigan team would get endless about how the team was ill-prepared or unmotivated. Hoke's team is "rebuilding." I find this obnoxious, no consistency at all in fandom I suppose. If they play like this vs Northwestern or even Penn State or Nebraska, they're gonna get run.

Yeah, the truth we know is that UM fans just never liked RichRod. To be fair, Hoke has earned more leeway than RichRod ever did.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Ok, who is doing the color commentary on the AF/WYO game? This is the worst color guy I've heard since Todd Christensen was relegated to X Games sideline reporter. Guy wants offensive blocks in the open field to be 15 yard penalties? WTF????

 

[timschochet]

I really need to know how this UCONN team lost by 15 at home to TOWSON.

They are terrible. So is the AAC. God awful conference.

Seems like a down year across the board, or maybe just a lot of the field is leveling. I mean Alabama is the standard, but they don;t even seem as good as they have been. Florida is meh, OU is down, Texas is laughable, USC is horrendous, the Big Ten is still ####ty besides Ohio State and Maryland is one of the best teams in the ACC. I mean it seems like it's Alabama and a bunch of question marks.

I don't know, Oregon and Clemson have looked pretty good this season. Mariotta and Boyd are pretty special players.

Louisville, Stanford and Ohio State all look like champions too. And I love the way the Bruins are starting the season out, of course.

I wouldn't underestimate LSU either. There's a lot of good games coming up here.

 

[timschochet]

Can't wait to see Georgia vs. LSU next week.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I really need to know how this UCONN team lost by 15 at home to TOWSON.

They are terrible. So is the AAC. God awful conference.

Seems like a down year across the board, or maybe just a lot of the field is leveling. I mean Alabama is the standard, but they don;t even seem as good as they have been. Florida is meh, OU is down, Texas is laughable, USC is horrendous, the Big Ten is still ####ty besides Ohio State and Maryland is one of the best teams in the ACC. I mean it seems like it's Alabama and a bunch of question marks.

I don't know, Oregon and Clemson have looked pretty good this season. Mariotta and Boyd are pretty special players.

Louisville, Stanford and Ohio State all look like champions too. And I love the way the Bruins are starting the season out, of course.

I wouldn't underestimate LSU either. There's a lot of good games coming up here.

has Louisville even played an FBS school yet? Give me a break.

And please don't inject your Bruins into any best team discussions.

 

[Raider Nation]

Ok, who is doing the color commentary on the AF/WYO game? This is the worst color guy I've heard since Todd Christensen was relegated to X Games sideline reporter. Guy wants offensive blocks in the open field to be 15 yard penalties? WTF????

Almost positive it's Dan Hawkins.

"Go play intramurals, brother!"

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Ok, who is doing the color commentary on the AF/WYO game? This is the worst color guy I've heard since Todd Christensen was relegated to X Games sideline reporter. Guy wants offensive blocks in the open field to be 15 yard penalties? WTF????

Almost positive it's Dan Hawkins.

"Go play intramurals, brother!"

He's horrible, don't you think? "I'm from the school of hard knocks?" He should be knocked out of the booth on his ### with no paycheck.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

and Maryland is one of the best teams in the ACC.

Easy there, tiger. They're 4-0 and have a bye coming up, but then it's FSU in Tallahassee. Then we'll see.

WVU gave the Terps the game with the turnovers. But, I will say, it's amazing what a team can do when they don't have to play a LB at QB. They also look pretty fast at the skill spots, but I guess we'll have something to compare that against in 2 weeks.

 

[Raider Nation]

Ok, who is doing the color commentary on the AF/WYO game? This is the worst color guy I've heard since Todd Christensen was relegated to X Games sideline reporter. Guy wants offensive blocks in the open field to be 15 yard penalties? WTF????

Almost positive it's Dan Hawkins.

"Go play intramurals, brother!"

He's horrible, don't you think? "I'm from the school of hard knocks?" He should be knocked out of the booth on his ### with no paycheck.

Yes, he's a tough listen.

 

[Raider Nation]

Oh, GM.....

BYU is on ESPN2 right now. For those who haven't seen their new offense yet, they play even faster than Oregon, if you can believe it. Hair-on-fire tempo. But it's hilarious... because they stink. So the only result is that their defense is back on the field that much quicker.

Bump

I stand by that. Just shows how bad Texas is.

You stand by what? How quickly BYU dismantled Texas with their up tempo offense? You tried to mock them. They destroyed. Eat your crow, RN.

I'll decline your polite offer of crow, thank you. Your juggernaut BYU offense scored 13 points in a loss tonight.

At home.

Against a team which gave up 51 points to Oregon State last week.

And their lone TD came after a monster punt return into Utah's red zone.

I would now like you to apologize to me on video. TIA GB.

 

[General Malaise]

Oh, GM.....

BYU is on ESPN2 right now. For those who haven't seen their new offense yet, they play even faster than Oregon, if you can believe it. Hair-on-fire tempo. But it's hilarious... because they stink. So the only result is that their defense is back on the field that much quicker.

Bump

I stand by that. Just shows how bad Texas is.

You stand by what? How quickly BYU dismantled Texas with their up tempo offense? You tried to mock them. They destroyed. Eat your crow, RN.

I'll decline your polite offer of crow, thank you. Your juggernaut BYU offense scored 13 points in a loss tonight.

At home.

Against a team which gave up 51 points to Oregon State last week.

And their lone TD came after a monster punt return into Utah's red zone.

I would now like you to apologize to me on video. TIA GB.

Let me try and put my screaming daughter to bed first, then I'll video tape an apology to you as soon as I can.

 

[Raider Nation]

Bonus points if your mouth is full of cheeseburgers.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

 

[The Commish]

It was never in doubt. They just had to wake up.

A RichRod coached Michigan team would get endless about how the team was ill-prepared or unmotivated. Hoke's team is "rebuilding." I find this obnoxious, no consistency at all in fandom I suppose. If they play like this vs Northwestern or even Penn State or Nebraska, they're gonna get run.

A RR coached team would have lost that game. The only reason they won that game is because of the defense. Not sure what's happening on offense but they don't deserve to be ranked at the moment. I now have the same anxiety when Gardner drops back to pass as I did with Robinson did. That's pretty sad.

 

[Guest]

It was never in doubt. They just had to wake up.

A RichRod coached Michigan team would get endless about how the team was ill-prepared or unmotivated. Hoke's team is "rebuilding." I find this obnoxious, no consistency at all in fandom I suppose. If they play like this vs Northwestern or even Penn State or Nebraska, they're gonna get run.

A RR coached team would have lost that game. The only reason they won that game is because of the defense. Not sure what's happening on offense but they don't deserve to be ranked at the moment. I now have the same anxiety when Gardner drops back to pass as I did with Robinson did. That's pretty sad.

What's up with this guy? I thought he tore it up the first few games?

Nebraska has a QB controversy on their hands. I know it was just SDSU, but both backups throw a much better ball than Martinez, and Armstrong can run a true option/zone read. Rather than the playbook being condensed for backups, it was actually opened up because of what they are capable of.

Martinez with one bad wheel is a hinderance.

 

[The Commish]

It was never in doubt. They just had to wake up.

A RichRod coached Michigan team would get endless about how the team was ill-prepared or unmotivated. Hoke's team is "rebuilding." I find this obnoxious, no consistency at all in fandom I suppose. If they play like this vs Northwestern or even Penn State or Nebraska, they're gonna get run.

A RR coached team would have lost that game. The only reason they won that game is because of the defense. Not sure what's happening on offense but they don't deserve to be ranked at the moment. I now have the same anxiety when Gardner drops back to pass as I did with Robinson did. That's pretty sad.

What's up with this guy? I thought he tore it up the first few games?

Nebraska has a QB controversy on their hands. I know it was just SDSU, but both backups throw a much better ball than Martinez, and Armstrong can run a true option/zone read. Rather than the playbook being condensed for backups, it was actually opened up because of what they are capable of.

Martinez with one bad wheel is a hinderance.

Couldn't tell ya....he appears to be going mental. Looks like he's scared to make a mistake. Not playing well at all. Hope he figures it out over the bye week.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

NCAA gives Penn St some scholarships back for good behavior and says the bowl ban could be lifted next year. Meanwhile, don't lie about a BBQ (Bruce Pearl) and take money (USC-Reggie Bush) because there is no good behavior clause for those infractions.

 

[General Malaise]

NCAA gives Penn St some scholarships back for good behavior and says the bowl ban could be lifted next year. Meanwhile, don't lie about a BBQ (Bruce Pearl) and take money (USC-Reggie Bush) because there is no good behavior clause for those infractions.

Hey, some kid that was a walk on with Georgia Tech is working in our warehouse. Pretty cool guy. Very tall. Played WR for them. I think his career stats were like 1 catch for 19 yards. Better than me!

 

[Tom Servo]

NCAA gives Penn St some scholarships back for good behavior and says the bowl ban could be lifted next year. Meanwhile, don't lie about a BBQ (Bruce Pearl) and take money (USC-Reggie Bush) because there is no good behavior clause for those infractions.

Yes, because those are exactly the same. The point here is that George Mitchell has looked at the progresss PSU has made and recommended that mediation be enacted. Word is if there is continued progress, the bowl ban goes away.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

NCAA gives Penn St some scholarships back for good behavior and says the bowl ban could be lifted next year. Meanwhile, don't lie about a BBQ (Bruce Pearl) and take money (USC-Reggie Bush) because there is no good behavior clause for those infractions.

Yes, because those are exactly the same. The point here is that George Mitchell has looked at the progresss PSU has made and recommended that mediation be enacted. Word is if there is continued progress, the bowl ban goes away.

I know they aren't the same. Lying about a BBQ is pretty minor. Covering up child rape to protect the football team is not that minor.

The point is the NCAA makes stuff up as it goes like NASCAR and the WWE. Although I don't see how breaking away from the NCAA will change anything unless it just becomes anything goes so there is nothing to punish.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Back by (somewhat) popular demand, it's the first version of the 2013 KRACH ratings.

KRACH is a popular ratings system in college hockey, in which team rankings are on an odds scale, relatively to how many times a team would beat another team if they played enough times. (For example: A team with a 200 rating would be expected to win 2-of-3 meetings vs. a team with a 100 rating. Also, because it is an odds scale, the difference of 300 to 200 is not the same as 200 to 100.)

POS. TEAM W L KRACH1 Alabama 3 0 2389.592 LSU 4 0 2110.883 Clemson 3 0 2087.844 Florida St 3 0 1750.145 Washington 3 0 1623.336 Fresno St 3 0 1438.947 Northwestern 4 0 1323.868 Texas Tech 4 0 1288.299 Louisville 4 0 1278.0910 UCLA 3 0 1225.4211 Missouri 3 0 1190.5812 Michigan 4 0 1181.5413 Arizona 3 0 1108.6614 No. Illinois 3 0 1095.3515 Oklahoma St 3 0 1075.2216 Navy 2 0 1023.8617 Central Fla. 3 0 1021.4418 Baylor 3 0 930.5719 Oregon 3 0 926.9520 Oklahoma 3 0 923.5421 Stanford 3 0 918.1122 Auburn 3 1 906.8323 Miami FL 3 0 905.7924 Maryland 4 0 856.9925 Minnesota 4 0 849.2226 Georgia Tech 3 0 820.5727 Ohio State 4 0 738.3128 Texas A&M 3 1 687.6129 Virginia Tech 3 1 629.0030 Washington St 3 1 619.0631 Houston 3 0 613.1132 Nebraska 3 1 577.1633 Georgia 2 1 567.7934 Mississippi 3 0 488.7935 Ohio U. 3 1 469.4336 Rutgers 3 1 453.2437 Illinois 2 1 427.1138 Colorado 2 0 426.0439 Notre Dame 3 1 415.9240 Penn State 3 1 409.0241 Florida 2 1 395.8842 Pittsburgh 2 1 395.8743 Southern Cal 3 1 368.2744 NC State 2 1 335.8345 Arizona St 2 1 316.9446 Bowling Green 3 1 288.9947 South Carolina 2 1 272.9948 Utah 3 1 267.4749 Indiana 2 2 266.8250 Boise St 2 2 264.7051 Arkansas 3 1 262.2852 Virginia 2 1 256.9653 East Carolina 2 1 248.6354 Michigan St 3 1 242.4455 Oregon St 3 1 241.5656 Mississippi St 2 2 231.5557 Toledo 2 2 220.0758 South Alabama 2 1 214.7859 Texas State 2 1 213.2260 Cincinnati 3 1 212.7061 Boston College 2 1 211.1362 Ball St 3 1 203.8763 Wisconsin 3 1 202.5364 Duke 2 2 197.8965 Wyoming 3 1 194.9666 Marshall 2 2 192.6067 UNLV 2 2 192.2068 Iowa 3 1 189.1469 Texas-San Ant. 2 2 183.5570 TCU 1 2 181.1771 North Texas 2 2 178.6972 Middle Tenn. St 3 1 175.4473 West Virginia 2 2 173.7474 Syracuse 2 2 167.5075 La.-Monroe 2 2 150.4276 California 1 2 149.7377 Rice 1 2 147.7978 SMU 1 2 138.1179 North Carolina 1 2 138.0380 Kansas 2 1 129.7881 Tennessee 2 2 128.6082 Nevada 2 2 128.2083 San José St 1 2 118.6584 Utah St 2 2 112.6585 Buffalo 1 2 109.9686 La.-Lafayette 2 2 108.7987 Tulane 2 2 107.7088 Tulsa 1 2 107.0889 Kansas St 2 2 99.8290 Akron 1 3 95.9391 Troy 2 2 94.4892 Brigham Young 1 2 92.0893 Arkansas St 2 2 91.9794 Texas 2 2 91.8295 Ala.-Birmingham 1 2 83.5996 Kent St 1 3 81.4197 Wake Forest 2 2 79.8698 Memphis 1 2 79.0799 Vanderbilt 2 2 77.34100 New Mexico 1 2 69.59101 Colorado St 1 3 68.85102 Western Kent. 2 2 66.12103 E. Michigan 1 3 62.72104 Cent. Michigan 1 3 57.46105 Louisiana Tech 1 3 56.82106 Purdue 1 3 52.12107 Connecticut 0 3 49.40108 Fla. Atlantic 1 3 48.77109 Kentucky 1 2 44.43110 Florida Int'l 0 4 41.49111 Temple 0 3 39.59112 Iowa St 0 2 37.62113 UTEP 1 2 35.03114 San Diego St 0 3 33.37115 Southern Miss 0 3 29.57116 Army 1 3 29.10117 Air Force 1 3 25.85118 Idaho 0 4 25.14119 Hawai`i 0 3 23.84120 South Florida 0 3 17.17121 West. Michigan 0 4 16.30122 Miami OH 0 3 14.28123 Massachusetts 0 4 13.89124 Georgia St 0 4 12.67125 New Mexico St 0 4 11.96Obviously data still will be a bit skewed until more games are played, but it's worth an early look.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

And now, the "plus-minus" ratings ...in which each team gets a +1 for a victory or a -1 for a loss, and then opponent ratings are calculated based on the teams they have faced. OWN and OPP are added to get the TEAM RATING.

				AVG.	OPP.	POS.	TEAM		GP	MARGIN	RATING	RATING1	Clemson		3	1.00	1.77	2.772	Alabama		3	1.00	1.74	2.743	Florida St	3	1.00	1.64	2.644	Washington	3	1.00	1.49	2.495	Fresno St	3	1.00	1.42	2.426	Georgia		3	0.33	2.07	2.407	LSU		4	1.00	1.39	2.398	Missouri	3	1.00	1.37	2.379	Navy		2	1.00	1.34	2.3410	Arizona		3	1.00	1.32	2.3211	Oklahoma St	3	1.00	1.23	2.2312	Texas Tech	4	1.00	1.17	2.1713	Central Florida	3	1.00	1.16	2.1614	UCLA		3	1.00	1.14	2.1415	Oklahoma	3	1.00	1.14	2.1416	Auburn		4	0.50	1.63	2.1317	No. Illinois	3	1.00	1.10	2.1018	Georgia Tech	3	1.00	1.09	2.0919	Pittsburgh	3	0.33	1.72	2.0520	Oregon		3	1.00	1.04	2.0421	Colorado	2	1.00	1.03	2.0322	Texas A&M	4	0.50	1.49	1.9923	Baylor		3	1.00	0.96	1.9624	Virginia Tech	4	0.50	1.43	1.9325	South Carolina	3	0.33	1.59	1.9326	Washington St	4	0.50	1.42	1.9227	Louisville	4	1.00	0.90	1.9028	Miami FL	3	1.00	0.90	1.9029	Maryland	4	1.00	0.90	1.9030	Michigan	4	1.00	0.89	1.8931	Florida		3	0.33	1.52	1.8532	Stanford	3	1.00	0.83	1.8333	Illinois	3	0.33	1.50	1.8334	Nebraska	4	0.50	1.30	1.8035	Northwestern	4	1.00	0.78	1.7836	Minnesota	4	1.00	0.76	1.7637	N. Carolina St	3	0.33	1.42	1.7538	Bowling Green	4	0.50	1.25	1.7539	Ohio U.		4	0.50	1.21	1.7140	Houston		3	1.00	0.71	1.7141	Penn State	4	0.50	1.19	1.6942	Mississippi	3	1.00	0.68	1.6843	Rutgers		4	0.50	1.18	1.6844	Indiana		4	0.00	1.62	1.6245	Southern Cal	4	0.50	1.11	1.6146	Texas-San Ant.	4	0.00	1.59	1.5947	Ohio State	4	1.00	0.59	1.5948	Boise St	4	0.00	1.57	1.5749	Toledo		4	0.00	1.53	1.5350	North Texas	4	0.00	1.51	1.5151	East Carolina	3	0.33	1.15	1.4852	TCU		3	-0.33	1.81	1.4853	Utah		4	0.50	0.95	1.4554	Oregon St	4	0.50	0.94	1.4455	North Carolina	3	-0.33	1.77	1.4356	Virginia	3	0.33	1.10	1.4357	Notre Dame	4	0.50	0.92	1.4258	Arkansas	4	0.50	0.92	1.4259	Tulsa		3	-0.33	1.73	1.3960	Duke		4	0.00	1.39	1.3961	Arizona St	3	0.33	1.04	1.3762	Mississippi St	4	0.00	1.37	1.3763	Texas St.	3	0.33	0.98	1.3164	Colorado St	4	-0.50	1.80	1.3065	Middle Tenn. St	4	0.50	0.78	1.2866	Marshall	4	0.00	1.27	1.2767	Ball St		4	0.50	0.77	1.2768	UNLV		4	0.00	1.26	1.2669	Rice		3	-0.33	1.57	1.2470	Nevada		4	0.00	1.23	1.2371	Cincinnati	4	0.50	0.71	1.2172	SMU		3	-0.33	1.52	1.1873	Boston College	3	0.33	0.85	1.1874	Wyoming		4	0.50	0.67	1.1775	South Alabama	3	0.33	0.83	1.1676	Tennessee	4	0.00	1.12	1.1277	New Mexico	3	-0.33	1.45	1.1178	Iowa		4	0.50	0.58	1.0879	West Virginia	4	0.00	1.07	1.0780	Wisconsin	4	0.50	0.53	1.0381	Kansas		3	0.33	0.70	1.0382	Kent St		4	-0.50	1.51	1.0183	Texas		4	0.00	0.98	0.9884	Michigan St	4	0.50	0.46	0.9685	Brigham Young	3	-0.33	1.29	0.9686	Ala.-Birmingham	3	-0.33	1.28	0.9587	La.-Lafayette	4	0.00	0.95	0.9588	Syracuse	4	0.00	0.94	0.9489	San José St	3	-0.33	1.28	0.9490	Vanderbilt	4	0.00	0.94	0.9491	La.-Monroe	4	0.00	0.94	0.9492	Kansas St	4	0.00	0.90	0.9093	Florida Int'l	4	-1.00	1.90	0.9094	Utah St		4	0.00	0.90	0.9095	Akron		4	-0.50	1.39	0.8996	California	3	-0.33	1.21	0.8897	Troy		4	0.00	0.84	0.8498	Memphis		3	-0.33	1.17	0.8399	Arkansas St	4	0.00	0.83	0.83100	Buffalo		3	-0.33	1.16	0.82101	Tulane		4	0.00	0.74	0.74102	Connecticut	3	-1.00	1.72	0.72103	UTEP		3	-0.33	1.03	0.70104	Idaho		4	-1.00	1.68	0.68105	East. Michigan	4	-0.50	1.14	0.64106	Fla. Atlantic	4	-0.50	1.13	0.63107	Louisiana Tech	4	-0.50	1.06	0.56108	Cent. Michigan	4	-0.50	1.04	0.54109	San Diego St	3	-1.00	1.52	0.52110	Wake Forest	4	0.00	0.52	0.52111	Southern Miss	3	-1.00	1.51	0.51112	West. Kentucky	4	0.00	0.46	0.46113	Kentucky	3	-0.33	0.78	0.45114	Hawai`i		3	-1.00	1.43	0.43115	Purdue		4	-0.50	0.92	0.42116	Temple		3	-1.00	1.42	0.42117	New Mexico St	4	-1.00	1.40	0.40118	Iowa St		2	-1.00	1.27	0.27119	Army		4	-0.50	0.68	0.18120	West. Michigan	4	-1.00	1.10	0.10121	Massachusetts	4	-1.00	1.02	0.02122	Air Force	4	-0.50	0.51	0.01123	Miami OH	3	-1.00	0.98	-0.02124	South Florida	3	-1.00	0.87	-0.13125	Georgia St	4	-1.00	0.81	-0.19

 

[cheese]

NCAA gives Penn St some scholarships back for good behavior and says the bowl ban could be lifted next year. Meanwhile, don't lie about a BBQ (Bruce Pearl) and take money (USC-Reggie Bush) because there is no good behavior clause for those infractions.

Yes, because those are exactly the same. The point here is that George Mitchell has looked at the progresss PSU has made and recommended that mediation be enacted. Word is if there is continued progress, the bowl ban goes away.

I know they aren't the same. Lying about a BBQ is pretty minor. Covering up child rape to protect the football team is not that minor.

The point is the NCAA makes stuff up as it goes like NASCAR and the WWE. Although I don't see how breaking away from the NCAA will change anything unless it just becomes anything goes so there is nothing to punish.

Sure, but here is the tough part. How would you like them to go about it? It's unreasonable to think they're going to have a written guideline for how to handle every single occurrance at hundreds of schools. It isn't like they will have a written plan for how to handle when your defensive coordinator does what JS did. They pretty much have to operate on the fly and on a case by case basis. When you did that in a very public and passionate area like college football, every choice you make will be scrutinized.

 

[The Commish]

NCAA gives Penn St some scholarships back for good behavior and says the bowl ban could be lifted next year. Meanwhile, don't lie about a BBQ (Bruce Pearl) and take money (USC-Reggie Bush) because there is no good behavior clause for those infractions.

Yes, because those are exactly the same. The point here is that George Mitchell has looked at the progresss PSU has made and recommended that mediation be enacted. Word is if there is continued progress, the bowl ban goes away.

I know they aren't the same. Lying about a BBQ is pretty minor. Covering up child rape to protect the football team is not that minor.

The point is the NCAA makes stuff up as it goes like NASCAR and the WWE. Although I don't see how breaking away from the NCAA will change anything unless it just becomes anything goes so there is nothing to punish.

Sure, but here is the tough part. How would you like them to go about it? It's unreasonable to think they're going to have a written guideline for how to handle every single occurrance at hundreds of schools. It isn't like they will have a written plan for how to handle when your defensive coordinator does what JS did. They pretty much have to operate on the fly and on a case by case basis. When you did that in a very public and passionate area like college football, every choice you make will be scrutinized.

The NCAA has a consistency problem and that problem stems from being understaffed. They don't have anywhere close to enough people to police the masses so what do they do? They rely on the masses to regulate themselves. That has to change for the NCAA to be legitimate IMO. They have to be proactive, and not reactive. Then, on top of that, they need to focus on the things that the NCAA is responsible for (i.e. ncaa rules violations). Leave the rest up to the authorities and judicial system. The NCAA can give back whatever they want to PSU, but they won't be able to help them in the legal system and that's the way it should be. These "sanctions" are a drop in the bucket compared to what they can lose in the legal system.

It's simple enough to envision another governing body that is structured much differently and funded much differently being more successful at getting the correct information to levy the correct punishment. Granted, you and I could probably be more successful. Yahoo's already shown that they are more successful. Once you have the organization in place, then you work on the stupid rules. A little common sense goes a long way in that area.