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*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (2 Viewers)

They've also had a few home-and-homes with Miami.

The SEC was still a very good football conference in the 90's. UF just dominated it.

Also scheduling another home-and-home with a power conference school on top of FSU and playing UGa in Jax used to be more of an issue with the 11 game schedule because it would leave UF with only 5 home games in one year. Gotta pack the Swamp as often as possible not only for the UAA'a budget but for the city of Gainesville.

PS. I'm glad they are now using the 12th game to play another power conference school.

 
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The Commish said:
I think "care about" is overselling the motive here. I know I don't really care what they do. I know if I were a fan, I'd be a bit annoyed that I couldn't travel to different places to see my team play. Short of that, I couldn't care less what Florida does or what excuses/reasons (whatever you want to call them) they give for doing what they do. However, I will say, it's always interesting to hear recent SOS in the conference brought up as if that's been the case since 1991 That's a bit disingenuous IMO.


My "damn" was at the sheer number of years, more than anything else...that's pretty impressive.
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That's fair, but then again they averaged almost 2 games per year against top 5 opponents through the 90's, so it's not like things were super easy then either. Sadly SOS doesn't go back that far, but as far back as it does go (2003) Florida's worst SOS rating is (significantly) better than the average SOS rating of most of the teams of the folks who have complained about them not traveling out of state here.

Like I said, we don't have ratings that go back that far but with the last 10 years of SEC play and yearly matchups against FSU/Tennessee in their glory years of the 90's I'd be pretty well shocked if Florida didn't have the run-away #1 composite SOS since 1991. It seems like such an odd team to bring up scheduling concerns with from fans of teams who's SOS is often in 60's and for whom a SOS in the 40's (worse than Florida has ever had since they started tracking it) is considered a tougher than average year.

Sure, I'd love to see them play in some other cool parts of the country, but I have gotten to travel to Arizona a few times for some rather important games they played in :P . I think you see a lot of Florida fans react to it not because they don't want them to go elsewhere, but because it's frustrating to beat a string of top 10 opponents and the lose out on a title shot because of a slip up and a narrow miss against yet another top 10 team while some other team cakewalks through an easy schedule. It seems unfair at times. Then to have that belittled for some arbitrary reason is kind of annoying. Almost as if Tom Brady had to play every game with an eyepatch on and one arm tied behind his back and someone said "oh yea, well Drew Brees had to play a series with his shoe untied once. Brady has it easy".

 
Florida and Florida State will extend their annual series until at least the 2018 season, the University of Florida announced Thursday.

Next season’s game will be played in Tallahassee, as will the games in 2016 and 2018. The 2015 and 2017 games will be played in Gainesville. The current contract was set to expire after the 2014 season.

The schools first met on the gridiron in 1958 and have played 58 times, with the Gators leading the all-time series 34-22

 
if saban wants player more subbing for player safety, and if too many plays is an issue, i say lets put a consecutive play limit on players.

 
I'd like to hear Saban explain why playing at a fast pace puts the kids at risk but him scheduling a bunch of 5 star future NFL studs to play against a FCS startup like Georgia State is a good idea and doesn't risk injury to those Georgia State kids

 
One good thing comes from this...some major conferences, including the SEC, are testing adding an 8th official who's job it will be to control the spotting of the ball. This allows the ump or whoever was spotting it before to get into his position quicker.

The officials themselves have admitted this has been a problem that led to missed calls on various procedure or illegal downfield issues. One play many point to as an example was a key TD in the Alabama Auburn game.

 
gump said:
One good thing comes from this...some major conferences, including the SEC, are testing adding an 8th official who's job it will be to control the spotting of the ball. This allows the ump or whoever was spotting it before to get into his position quicker.

The officials themselves have admitted this has been a problem that led to missed calls on various procedure or illegal downfield issues. One play many point to as an example was a key TD in the Alabama Auburn game.
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That'll just speed things up even more for those fast paced teams, right?

 
The Commish said:
gump said:
One good thing comes from this...some major conferences, including the SEC, are testing adding an 8th official who's job it will be to control the spotting of the ball. This allows the ump or whoever was spotting it before to get into his position quicker.

The officials themselves have admitted this has been a problem that led to missed calls on various procedure or illegal downfield issues. One play many point to as an example was a key TD in the Alabama Auburn game.
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That'll just speed things up even more for those fast paced teams, right?
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Not sure. It sounds like Umps were sacrificing their position to get the ball placed immediately.

 
Redding said the NCAA received 324 comments during the feedback period after the proposal passed and 75 percent opposed the change; 16 percent supported the proposal. The rest were uncertain.

 
Bielema and Saban were not on the rules committee but had a chance to address it last month and push for changes to control the ever-quickening pace of play. Alabama ranked 116th in the nation in plays per game last year at 65.9 per game. Arkansas was 121st at 64.7.

The proposal was passed on Feb. 12. What followed was three weeks of heated debate among college football fans and coaches about the evolution of football.

A debate that is not even close to over.

''I'm just one that doesn't think the officials should not control the pace of the game,'' Saban told reporters before it was announced the 10-second rule had been withdrawn. ''That's what I think, because that's a player safety issue, too. To me, football was not intended to be a continuous game. Soccer is. Rugby is. Football was never intended to be that. It's been played for a long time and there's always been a little bit of time between plays because of the physical nature, the contact that's involved.''

 
You know, Saban's last few sentences there are a good point. If this thing was presented without he and Bielema leading the charge it would've probably had a better chance.

I also agree with what wreck said about Bama pounding some team like Georgia State. Would be a good question to ask Saban.

 
Premier said:
You know, Saban's last few sentences there are a good point. If this thing was presented without he and Bielema leading the charge it would've probably had a better chance.

I also agree with what wreck said about Bama pounding some team like Georgia State. Would be a good question to ask Saban.
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I think I read somewhere that when Oregon's going quick it's on average 15 seconds between plays. IMO, this isn't about the time between the plays, it's about being able to substitute in players and keep them fresh. Against these teams you can't swap defensive players in and out because they get to the line so quick and you don't know when they are going to snap the ball. I think that's a bigger driver than the amount of time between plays even though they won't say that. I too agree that wreck's question would be good for any coach who believes this is a good idea.

 
Premier said:
You know, Saban's last few sentences there are a good point. If this thing was presented without he and Bielema leading the charge it would've probably had a better chance.

I also agree with what wreck said about Bama pounding some team like Georgia State. Would be a good question to ask Saban.
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again, if number of plays is a health issue, limit them

these are not professionals, they are student athletes. Maybe they should not be allowed to play every play regardless of the impact on the team, as their health should come first.

(please read the above dripping with sarcasm)

 
Saban has timeouts 3 per half use them. Slow down the other team and replace your 5 star stud athletes with other 5 stud athletes. Alabama has the highest ranked recruiting class year in and year out I am sure they have depth at all positions. Saban is dishonest when he says that "this is a player safety issue." It has been said multiple times before that "IF" Saban was really worried about player safety he would be trying to implement a max number of how many people can blitz the QB, or not scheduling patsies and running roughshod over them. Saban might not be the only coach who wants to slow the game down, but he will be the name that is attached to this rule.

The only injury that slowing down offenses will prevent is the "phantom injury" that is taking place by defenses to slow down fast paced offenses.

 
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Saban has timeouts 3 per half use them. Slow down the other team and replace your 5 star stud athletes with other 5 stud athletes. Alabama has the highest ranked recruiting class year in and year out I am sure they have depth at all positions. Saban is dishonest when he says that "this is a player safety issue." It has been said multiple times before that "IF" Saban was really worried about player safety he would be trying to implement a max number of how many people can blitz the QB, or not scheduling patsies and running roughshod over them. Saban might not be the only coach who wants to slow the game down, but he will be the name that is attached to this rule.

The only injury that slowing down offenses will prevent is the "phantom injury" that is taking place by defenses to slow down fast paced offenses.
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that's the beauty of this proposal. They want to do some more studies of it (and by more I mean any). So Saban can just keep having his players get phantom injuries and then next time say "See, look at the rash of injuries my team had during hurry up offense possessions"

brilliant!!!

 
B-Deep said:
SHIZNITTTT said:
Saban has timeouts 3 per half use them. Slow down the other team and replace your 5 star stud athletes with other 5 stud athletes. Alabama has the highest ranked recruiting class year in and year out I am sure they have depth at all positions. Saban is dishonest when he says that "this is a player safety issue." It has been said multiple times before that "IF" Saban was really worried about player safety he would be trying to implement a max number of how many people can blitz the QB, or not scheduling patsies and running roughshod over them. Saban might not be the only coach who wants to slow the game down, but he will be the name that is attached to this rule.

The only injury that slowing down offenses will prevent is the "phantom injury" that is taking place by defenses to slow down fast paced offenses.
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that's the beauty of this proposal. They want to do some more studies of it (and by more I mean any). So Saban can just keep having his players get phantom injuries and then next time say "See, look at the rash of injuries my team had during hurry up offense possessions"brilliant!!!
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Saban hasn't been accused of having players fake injuries. Ironically, Auburn has.

 
I'm not a big fan of the "hurry up" personally. I think it's a gimmick to cover up lack of ability (that's the "get off my lawn" part of me). WIth that said, I have no real problem with players faking injury either...again, not a big fan, but if it works and it's not breaking a rule so be it.

 
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UCF QB Blake Bortles looked pretty impressive today against Penn State. He made a lot of great throws downfield. It seems like he has a great combination of arm strength and accuracy. He is also extremely mobile for a tall, big-armed pro-style QB. I read that some NFL scouts apparently like him more than AJ McCarron and Aaron Murray. Bortles may be an interesting guy to watch this year.
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:goodposting:

I was out in front of the big-time scouts on this one.

Scouts Inc.'s Todd McShay now lists UCF's Blake Bortles as his top QB prospect.

He relayed the news following Bortles' pro day. We are paraphrasing, but McShay made the statement after citing the differences between Brotles' and Teddy Bridgewater's pro days, both of which the evaluator attended. ESPN's Ron Jaworski agreed. As recently as March 13, McShay ranked Bridgewater as the No. 8 overall prospect, with Blake Bortles at No. 10.
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UCF's Blake Bortles "possesses all of the traits teams look for in a franchise quarterback" and "has the highest ceiling of any QB in this draft," believes Greg A. Bedard of Monday Morning Quarterback.
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UMass leaving the MAC after the 2015 season.

Bummer, because I enjoyed being a part of and following MACtion the past two seasons. But it was never going to work with UMass as an all-sports member, simply because of the financial drain and travel stress that would put on all the other Olympic sports. Sadly, that's something that seems to get lost in a lot of places with conference realignment.

 
They're heading to the AAC (ack ack). They'd be a good partner for UConn and Temple hoops, and that conference has clearly demonstrated they don't give two ####s about football anyways.

 
I know this isn't the recruiting thread and I'm too lazy to go look for it. Anyone know whatever happened to that McDowell kid that was suppose to sign with MSU ????

 
UCLA and LSU agree to a home and home series. 2021 in the Rose Bowl and 2024 in Tiger Stadium.

UCLA's got some nice matchups coming up for the next 10 years or so. [Virginia 2014-15] Texas in Dallas (2014), Texas A&M (2016-17), Oklahoma (2018-19), LSU (2021 and 2024), and Michigan (2022-23). Rutgers is also on the docket for 2020-21 and they might be decent by then.

 
GDogg said:
UCLA and LSU agree to a home and home series. 2021 in the Rose Bowl and 2024 in Tiger Stadium.

UCLA's got some nice matchups coming up for the next 10 years or so. [Virginia 2014-15] Texas in Dallas (2014), Texas A&M (2016-17), Oklahoma (2018-19), LSU (2021 and 2024), and Michigan (2022-23). Rutgers is also on the docket for 2020-21 and they might be decent by then.
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Very cool. A lot can change in 7/10 years, but should be an interesting matchup considering LSU will be coming off of 6 straight national championships. I'm assuming it will be the season opener.

 
psychobillies said:
GDogg said:
UCLA and LSU agree to a home and home series. 2021 in the Rose Bowl and 2024 in Tiger Stadium.

UCLA's got some nice matchups coming up for the next 10 years or so. [Virginia 2014-15] Texas in Dallas (2014), Texas A&M (2016-17), Oklahoma (2018-19), LSU (2021 and 2024), and Michigan (2022-23). Rutgers is also on the docket for 2020-21 and they might be decent by then.
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Very cool. A lot can change in 7/10 years, but should be an interesting matchup considering LSU will be coming off of 6 straight national championships. I'm assuming it will be the season opener.
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I'd be worried about those 6 if UCLA hadn't won the previous 4 and been runner-up to LSU's 6...

Yes, both games should be the season opener (the game at Tiger Stadium definitely is). The game at the Rose Bowl is September 4, 2021. And, the game at Tiger Stadium is August 31, 2024.

And, yeah, a lot can and will change. I was listening to local radio here discussing the announcement and they pointed out that obviously the players in those games are in elementary school right now, but also that both coaching staffs will most likely no longer be at the respective schools. At the very least, the assistant coaches will all probably be gone.

Barring something catastrophic happening, I'll be at both games.

 
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Premier said:
gump said:
Premier said:
gump said:
Cap - something of interest to you that I saw today...looks good.
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Please tell me they aren't messing with the helmets. All I ask.
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Nothing dramatic like the Bucs. Some tweaks/modernization to existing logos.
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Sounds good. Looking forward to seeing it.
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Premier said:
gump said:
Premier said:
gump said:
Cap - something of interest to you that I saw today...looks good.
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Please tell me they aren't messing with the helmets. All I ask.
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Nothing dramatic like the Bucs. Some tweaks/modernization to existing logos.
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Sounds good. Looking forward to seeing it.
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Have you seen the leak? Now that I've had a little time with it, not as positive. Our Nole employees hate it. Calling it the White Guy.

 
gump said:
Premier said:
gump said:
Premier said:
gump said:
Cap - something of interest to you that I saw today...looks good.
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Please tell me they aren't messing with the helmets. All I ask.
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Nothing dramatic like the Bucs. Some tweaks/modernization to existing logos.
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Sounds good. Looking forward to seeing it.
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Premier said:
gump said:
Premier said:
gump said:
Cap - something of interest to you that I saw today...looks good.
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Please tell me they aren't messing with the helmets. All I ask.
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Nothing dramatic like the Bucs. Some tweaks/modernization to existing logos.
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Sounds good. Looking forward to seeing it.
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Have you seen the leak? Now that I've had a little time with it, not as positive. Our Nole employees hate it. Calling it the White Guy.
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I actually like it. But judging by work friends and message boards, I'm the only one. :shrug:

 
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The Commish said:
Hopefully FSU handles this better than Michigan did theirs
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What happened to Michigan?
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Gibbons, the senior kicker, had been accused of raping a co-ed, but the co-ed didn't pursue it. This happened his freshman year under Rich Rod. So the police didn't really pursue it either. Apparently it festered over the years and it came bubbling back up near the end of the year this past year and while the controversy was brewing the kid was still allowed to play. Investigation was reopened and in Jan they "separated" him from the university. He was expelled. Lots of folks didn't like Hoke's position of "letting the process (investigation) run it's course" and thought he should have been kicked off the team prior to investigation being complete. Lots of folks were angered by the lack of response from the athletic department etc.

 
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