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Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Nebraska has gone all red a handful of times. They look awful, and yet still 1000x better than the Rutgers reject unis from this past week.
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I thought Nebraska's alternates on Saturday were the worst of any team's alternates. I didn't see the Rutgers unis so I may have to hold that thought.
ETA: After watching a few Rutgers highlights from Saturday, I stand by my statement that Nebraska's were worse. At least you could read the Rutgers numbers.
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Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
I meant Nebraska's uniforms looked like Rutgers reject unisI thought Nebraska's alternates on Saturday were the worst of any team's alternates. I didn't see the Rutgers unis so I may have to hold that thought.
ETA: After watching a few Rutgers highlights from Saturday, I stand by my statement that Nebraska's were worse. At least you could read the Rutgers numbers.
gump
Footballguy
Ole Miss has a D. 3rd ranked scoring D and an aggressive, talented DL. We'll know a lot more by Sunday.
Gopher State
Footballguy
I wonder if Minnesota will be rated this week after smoking big blue on the road
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
One thing that is clear from the UF game is that Sims can make great throws.
timschochet
Footballguy
Anyone think Nebraska has a shot against Michigan State?
NutterButter
Footballguy
Lines only 8.5. Verdict is still out on MSU. They got punked by Oregon and smashed 3 mediocre teams.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Yes.
Nebraska had ~400 yards of offense in last year's game but were killed by 5 turnovers. I think NEB is better this year. Not sure about MSU.
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MSU played great for 3 quarters but I thought they ran out of gas at the end. Understandable after chasing the Oregon offense around.
Should be a good game. Last year was the first time MSU beat Nebraska... Ever.
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After seeing the Rutgers unis I thought for sure they had to be an Adidas school also. Weird the jerseys were so similar. I've really liked the other Nebraska alternates.I meant Nebraska's uniforms looked like Rutgers reject unisI thought Nebraska's alternates on Saturday were the worst of any team's alternates. I didn't see the Rutgers unis so I may have to hold that thought.
ETA: After watching a few Rutgers highlights from Saturday, I stand by my statement that Nebraska's were worse. At least you could read the Rutgers numbers.
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Mark Davis
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Ole Miss is still Ole Miss in my eyes. I could be wrong but it appears Mississippi State is the better team in that state. Ole Miss has played a bunch of patsies and looked pretty inept at times doing it.
gump
Footballguy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Clay Travis is the Jerry Springer of college football.Gotta love Clay TravisI'm an admitted SEC honk, but dude takes it to the next level.
Good stuff in this week's article ...
Some Highlights:
• If the committee were picking teams today, FSU shouldn't be in the playoff.
• Absent Dooley's decision to blow Worley's redshirt, I really think the Vols would win the east next year.
• Ole Miss is going to get destroyed by Alabama unless Bo Wallace plays the game of his life.
• SEC West is a tougher division standing alone than the entire ACC, Big Ten, and Big 12 are combined.
• Arkansas (the 6th or 7th best team in the SEC West) would win the Big Ten.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
MSU's defense is very vulnerable to the long ball. There's been way too many times the past couple weeks they could have been burned several times over the top of our corners and safeties if the competition were better. Going to be a tough game. I have faith our offense can put up the points, not so confident in our secondary to stop the big play. Saw evidence of it against Oregon. Plus Abdullah is a beast.
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NIU Kicker
Footballguy
Already booked Neb +9.timschochet said:
gump
Footballguy
Who will Michigan's interim coach be? I vote for this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGNEdOGtBlo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGNEdOGtBlo
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mcintyre1
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I'm cautiously optimistic. This is the best Nebraska team we've had in years. I'd even place them above any of the Suh teams in terms of overall team success. Tommy Armstrong Jr. has exactly the skill set to run this offense, which Taylor Martinez never had (namely, the ability to complete a pass >10 yards down the field). Armstrong is also a much more consistent runner than Martinez ever was, despite Martinez's electric long runs. Martinez would go for 0, 0, 2, -4, then 80 and a TD when the crease was just right. Armstrong will go get you 5, 8, 15, 10, 6, making the defense respect his running ability on options and zone reads. I literally cheered the first time I saw Armstrong run the classic Nebraska option and take the easy 4 yards up the middle rather than run it wide and toss it to the I-Back for a short loss at the edge of the field (glaring at you T-Magic). Then if they stack the box to stop Ameer Abdullah, we've got Kenny Bell with 4.3ish deep speed or Westerkamp with precise routes and tough catches.
On defense the linebackers are pretty bad and the best of them is doubtful for MSU, so that'll be a tough matchup that might be easily exploited. The secondary can be weak against the run at times (particularly Corey Cooper at safety, his feet are slow as hell, just watch him get juked by a pretty meh move against Miami for a long TD) but overall is a strength. They will give up some long plays, but almost never long scores (as is the Pelini philosopy). The DL starters are very, very good. Randy Gregory will be a top 10 NFL draft pick at DE/OLB, no doubt in my mind. Vincent Valentine and Maliek Collins are both very talented but still young DTs and Greg McMullen is about all you could ask for across from a hard pass rusher like Gregory. It should be a hell of a game.
ATC1
Footballguy
We lost a lot of Jr.s in the draft that this team will need to grow up fast.
Starting a So. and a rotation of Freshman on the DL has been the problem just as much as Jennings playing QB. If sustaining drives with Harris helps this defense that is our best shot . If Beckwith could line up properly he would be in there. I saw on multiple occasions that the Safety had to tell Beckwith where to lineup. We could have someone else call the defense, but if he is not where he is supposed to be against these spread read option teams it will be a long night.
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
So, hypothetically, if Nebraska beats MSU this week - then miraculously runs the table and wins the Big 10 (or 12) and are undefeated. Do they make the playoffs? Or is it already guaranteed that regardless of loss totals FSU, Oregon, SEC winner and Big 12 winner go to the party?
I live in Nebraska (though not a fan) and it seems that if they go undefeated or even finish 1 loss but Big 10 champion they could be edged out by two loss teams from the SEC or another power conference. MSU on the other hand could run the table, but that loss against Oregon would hurt them.
I live in Nebraska (though not a fan) and it seems that if they go undefeated or even finish 1 loss but Big 10 champion they could be edged out by two loss teams from the SEC or another power conference. MSU on the other hand could run the table, but that loss against Oregon would hurt them.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
They would absolutely make the playoffs if they are undefeated and the B1G champion.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
I don't usually put these out there so early in the season (even though I start calculating them after Week 1), but the ratings seem to be stable a little more early this year, for whatever reason.
Even though there is no BCS any more and computers aren't part of the equation, I think it can be just as important as ever to get an "unbiased" look at the big picture. Especially if SOS ends up being as big a factor in deciding the four teams for the playoff as most believe it will be. How do you separate teams that are unbeaten at the top? Just look at who they've played, and we're already getting a little snapshot of this.
As usual, two sets of ratings are listed below:
1. A "Plus-Minus" rating, in which each team receives a +1 for each win and a -1 for each loss, and then this score is combined with an iterated average of a team's opponents' ratings.
2. The 'KRACH" rating, which is a reproduction of the "Ken's Ratings for American College Hockey" formula that is popular among college hockey people.
As always, this isn't 100 percent foolproof, but perhaps just offers a little different perspective.
Even though there is no BCS any more and computers aren't part of the equation, I think it can be just as important as ever to get an "unbiased" look at the big picture. Especially if SOS ends up being as big a factor in deciding the four teams for the playoff as most believe it will be. How do you separate teams that are unbeaten at the top? Just look at who they've played, and we're already getting a little snapshot of this.
As usual, two sets of ratings are listed below:
1. A "Plus-Minus" rating, in which each team receives a +1 for each win and a -1 for each loss, and then this score is combined with an iterated average of a team's opponents' ratings.
2. The 'KRACH" rating, which is a reproduction of the "Ken's Ratings for American College Hockey" formula that is popular among college hockey people.
As always, this isn't 100 percent foolproof, but perhaps just offers a little different perspective.
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PLUS- OPP. POS. TEAM GP MINUS RATING RATING1 Oregon 4 1.00 2.20 3.202 Alabama 4 1.00 2.15 3.153 Florida St 4 1.00 2.14 3.144 Auburn 4 1.00 2.14 3.145 UCLA 4 1.00 2.12 3.126 Oklahoma 4 1.00 1.98 2.987 Nebraska 5 1.00 1.92 2.928 Arizona 4 1.00 1.91 2.919 Oklahoma St 4 0.50 2.31 2.8110 Brigham Young 4 1.00 1.79 2.7911 Michigan St 4 0.50 2.23 2.7312 Texas A&M 5 1.00 1.73 2.7313 Notre Dame 4 1.00 1.71 2.7114 Mississippi St 4 1.00 1.65 2.6515 Kansas St 4 0.50 2.12 2.6216 Mississippi 4 1.00 1.61 2.6117 Baylor 4 1.00 1.59 2.5918 Missouri 5 0.60 1.95 2.5519 Wyoming 5 0.20 2.35 2.5520 TCU 3 1.00 1.49 2.4921 N.C. State 5 0.60 1.85 2.4522 Maryland 5 0.60 1.85 2.4523 Florida 3 0.33 2.11 2.4424 Southern Cal 4 0.50 1.91 2.4125 LSU 5 0.60 1.81 2.4126 South Carolina 5 0.20 2.17 2.3727 Arkansas 5 0.20 2.16 2.3628 Georgia Tech 4 1.00 1.34 2.3429 California 4 0.50 1.84 2.3430 West Virginia 4 0.00 2.33 2.3331 Washington 5 0.60 1.73 2.3332 Nevada 4 0.50 1.82 2.3233 Georgia 4 0.50 1.81 2.3134 Texas 4 0.00 2.29 2.2935 Stanford 4 0.50 1.73 2.2336 Penn State 5 0.60 1.62 2.2237 Minnesota 5 0.60 1.62 2.2238 Illinois 5 0.20 2.01 2.2139 Tennessee 4 0.00 2.19 2.1940 Fla. Atlantic 5 -0.20 2.39 2.1941 Virginia 5 0.20 1.97 2.1742 No. Illinois 4 0.50 1.64 2.1443 Air Force 4 0.50 1.62 2.1244 Syracuse 4 0.00 2.11 2.1145 Clemson 4 0.00 2.11 2.1146 Wisconsin 4 0.50 1.61 2.1147 Utah 4 0.50 1.59 2.0948 Arizona St 4 0.50 1.59 2.0949 Louisville 5 0.60 1.49 2.0950 Colorado St 4 0.50 1.58 2.0851 Rutgers 5 0.60 1.47 2.0752 Iowa 5 0.60 1.47 2.0753 East Carolina 4 0.50 1.57 2.0754 Indiana 4 0.00 2.05 2.0555 Miami FL 5 0.20 1.85 2.0556 Texas Tech 4 0.00 2.03 2.0357 Ohio State 4 0.50 1.53 2.0358 Marshall 4 1.00 1.03 2.0359 Boise St 5 0.20 1.83 2.0360 Virginia Tech 5 0.20 1.79 1.9961 Louisiana Tech 5 -0.20 2.16 1.9662 Memphis 4 0.00 1.95 1.9563 Oregon St 4 0.50 1.44 1.9464 Toledo 5 0.20 1.72 1.9265 Northwestern 4 0.00 1.90 1.9066 Texas-San Ant. 4 -0.50 2.38 1.8867 Kentucky 4 0.50 1.37 1.8768 Washington St 5 -0.20 2.07 1.8769 Duke 5 0.60 1.27 1.8770 Cincinnati 3 0.33 1.52 1.8571 Arkansas St 4 0.00 1.84 1.8472 Pittsburgh 5 0.20 1.64 1.8473 Iowa St 4 -0.50 2.34 1.8474 Central Florida 3 -0.33 2.16 1.8375 Boston College 5 0.20 1.60 1.8076 UTEP 4 0.00 1.77 1.7777 Middle Tenn. St 5 0.20 1.56 1.7678 Western Kent. 4 0.00 1.76 1.7679 Old Dominion 5 0.20 1.53 1.7380 Rice 4 -0.50 2.21 1.7181 Fresno St 5 -0.20 1.90 1.7082 North Carolina 4 0.00 1.69 1.6983 Akron 4 0.00 1.66 1.6684 Southern Miss 5 -0.20 1.85 1.6585 Kansas 4 0.00 1.65 1.6586 Utah St 4 0.00 1.65 1.6587 San José St 4 -0.50 2.14 1.6488 La.-Monroe 4 0.50 1.14 1.6489 Houston 4 0.00 1.63 1.6390 South Florida 5 -0.20 1.81 1.6191 Ga. Southern 5 0.20 1.40 1.6092 North Texas 4 0.00 1.59 1.5993 Purdue 5 -0.20 1.78 1.5894 Navy 5 -0.20 1.76 1.5695 Temple 4 0.50 1.06 1.5696 Bowling Green 5 0.20 1.31 1.5197 Cent. Michigan 5 -0.20 1.68 1.4898 San Diego St 4 0.00 1.48 1.4899 Colorado 5 -0.20 1.67 1.47100 Michigan 5 -0.20 1.66 1.46101 Tulsa 4 -0.50 1.93 1.43102 Buffalo 5 0.20 1.19 1.39103 Texas St. 4 0.00 1.38 1.38104 SMU 4 -1.00 2.35 1.35105 Ohio U. 5 0.20 1.15 1.35106 South Alabama 4 0.00 1.34 1.34107 E. Michigan 4 -0.50 1.81 1.31108 La.-Lafayette 4 -0.50 1.77 1.27109 New Mexico St 5 -0.20 1.43 1.23110 Vanderbilt 5 -0.60 1.81 1.21111 Ala.-Birmingham 4 0.00 1.21 1.21112 Wake Forest 5 -0.20 1.41 1.21113 New Mexico 4 -0.50 1.70 1.20114 Hawai`i 4 -0.50 1.69 1.19115 Florida Int'l 5 -0.20 1.39 1.19116 West. Michigan 4 0.00 1.19 1.19117 Tulane 5 -0.60 1.76 1.16118 Army 4 -0.50 1.65 1.15119 Georgia St 4 -0.50 1.61 1.11120 UNLV 5 -0.60 1.70 1.10121 Connecticut 5 -0.60 1.66 1.06122 Ball St 4 -0.50 1.55 1.05123 Kent St 4 -1.00 1.72 0.72124 Massachusetts 5 -1.00 1.64 0.64125 Miami OH 5 -1.00 1.61 0.61126 UNC-Charlotte 5 0.20 0.39 0.59127 Troy 5 -1.00 1.56 0.56128 Idaho 4 -1.00 1.38 0.38Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
The KRACH ratings, through games of Sept. 27:
KRACH is based on an odds scale, so a team with a score of 2000 would be expected to win 2/3 of its games against a team with a score of 1000. A hypothetically average team has a score of 100.
KRACH is based on an odds scale, so a team with a score of 2000 would be expected to win 2/3 of its games against a team with a score of 1000. A hypothetically average team has a score of 100.
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POS. TEAM W L KRACH1 Florida St 4 0 4204.012 Oregon 4 0 3898.453 Auburn 4 0 2960.074 UCLA 4 0 2706.365 Nebraska 5 0 2676.556 Texas A&M 5 0 2624.087 Alabama 4 0 2382.468 Mississippi St 4 0 2307.099 Arizona 4 0 2132.1710 Brigham Young 4 0 1847.9711 Oklahoma 4 0 1775.6312 Georgia Tech 4 0 1452.4013 Notre Dame 4 0 1347.7114 Mississippi 4 0 1279.3615 Michigan St 3 1 1161.6916 Baylor 4 0 1123.2517 TCU 3 0 1120.4218 LSU 4 1 1090.5019 N.C. State 4 1 1010.2320 Oklahoma St 3 1 927.3221 Kansas St 3 1 855.9822 Marshall 4 0 777.3723 Missouri 4 1 757.8324 Washington 4 1 727.1225 Maryland 4 1 646.6626 Wyoming 3 2 643.6927 South Carolina 3 2 588.6628 Arkansas 3 2 585.3029 California 3 1 569.6630 Penn State 4 1 533.1931 Minnesota 4 1 526.5632 Virginia 3 2 520.2633 Louisville 4 1 514.8234 Wisconsin 3 1 504.6635 Southern Cal 3 1 501.1236 Stanford 3 1 498.5137 East Carolina 3 1 498.4038 Georgia 3 1 497.0639 Illinois 3 2 476.9340 Nevada 3 1 465.9541 Florida 2 1 456.0642 West Virginia 2 2 451.3143 No. Illinois 3 1 420.0044 Virginia Tech 3 2 418.5145 Rutgers 4 1 415.0446 Iowa 4 1 397.3447 Miami FL 3 2 386.0448 Clemson 2 2 338.6949 Duke 4 1 338.5750 Air Force 3 1 337.1551 Ohio State 3 1 336.7552 Texas 2 2 323.1153 Arizona St 3 1 321.9554 Colorado St 3 1 315.7155 Syracuse 2 2 310.6556 Indiana 2 2 292.5957 Tennessee 2 2 283.7358 Oregon St 3 1 281.6959 Boise St 3 2 276.1760 Utah 3 1 275.5561 Memphis 2 2 268.3062 Northwestern 2 2 265.8163 Pittsburgh 3 2 262.2364 Toledo 3 2 256.8265 Kentucky 3 1 250.0566 La.-Monroe 3 1 231.4667 Cincinnati 2 1 226.0268 Middle Tenn. St 3 2 225.6869 Akron 2 2 221.3470 Boston College 3 2 215.0771 Ga. Southern 3 2 212.6072 Texas Tech 2 2 209.1273 Fla. Atlantic 2 3 204.4774 Old Dominion 3 2 196.4775 Iowa St 1 3 195.7676 North Carolina 2 2 194.1077 Arkansas St 2 2 193.9078 Central Florida 1 2 188.4979 W. Kentucky 2 2 183.2980 Washington St 2 3 181.8881 Kansas 2 2 168.9082 South Florida 2 3 167.2783 Bowling Green 3 2 161.5184 Southern Miss 2 3 154.2085 Purdue 2 3 144.4986 Louisiana Tech 2 3 143.7987 Utah St 2 2 142.7388 Temple 3 1 133.3789 UTEP 2 2 132.5390 Buffalo 3 2 127.1891 Navy 2 3 124.5092 Rice 1 3 121.7493 San Diego St 2 2 121.2094 UNC-Charlotte 3 2 114.9395 Cent. Michigan 2 3 112.9796 Houston 2 2 111.6197 Ohio U. 3 2 109.2698 Texas-San Ant. 1 3 106.8599 Fresno St 2 3 106.22100 Florida Int'l 2 3 101.58101 Texas St 2 2 98.86102 San José St 1 3 96.69103 Ala.-Birmingham 2 2 94.34104 Michigan 2 3 92.10105 Wake Forest 2 3 89.45106 West. Michigan 2 2 85.80107 Colorado 2 3 85.56108 South Alabama 2 2 85.15109 North Texas 2 2 68.99110 Army 1 3 68.20111 Ball St 1 3 67.97112 East. Michigan 1 3 66.21113 La.-Lafayette 1 3 65.34114 New Mexico St 2 3 62.24115 Hawai`i 1 3 61.04116 Tulsa 1 3 57.51117 Tulane 1 4 53.91118 Georgia St 1 3 50.15119 New Mexico 1 3 49.64120 Connecticut 1 4 43.97121 UNLV 1 4 37.60122 Vanderbilt 1 4 36.92123 SMU 0 4 23.84124 Kent St 0 4 16.03125 Miami OH 0 5 15.21126 Idaho 0 4 11.96127 Troy 0 5 11.06128 Massachusetts 0 5 9.35
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Amen. Armstrong has put the "read" back in the zone read and option. Not trying to bash Martinez, but he didn't read anything or just wasn't very good at it.
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gump
Footballguy
We've seen a lot of crazy #### happen in college football the last few years...anything is possible.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Tommy still makes a handful of questionable decisions a game, and his accuracy is inconsistent. When he's on it looks really good but when he's off it can derail fast. Still so much better than Martinez and has a chance to be really great if he cleans those areas up.
I'm also really happy with the way Beck has been calling games this year. Basically it's, "we're going to just keep running until you stop us" mode. That has benefits that extend well beyond just the immediate game. Teams need to plan on loading up against the run and Abdullah, but Bell and Westerkamp are still dangerous weapons.
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Another amen. I'm still worried Beck is going to try to get cute again though.
NutterButter
Footballguy
Not if there's 4 other undefeated teams named Oregon, Oklahoma, Alabama and FSU or ND
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NIU Kicker
Footballguy
Every year we worry about having 5-6 undefeated teams. Every year we are lucky if we end up with 2. It will work it's self out and I'm fairly certain based on history if any team (from a major Conferance) goes undefeated they will be one of the 4.
The Commish
Footballguy
Well...almost anything. If a one loss champion of any conference is snubbed for a 2 loss team I think it's safe to say we have regressed significantly. And that's saying something when your standard was the BCS.
NutterButter
Footballguy
Yeah, the chances of 5 teams going undefeated are about the same as the chances of Nebraska going undefeated. I was just playing along with the hypothetical.
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Is it me, or did the conversation start a littler earlier this year because of the playoff?Premier said:
BigJohn
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
psychobillies
Footballguy
I agree that LSU's youth is not a strength against AU, especially at Auburn, I just don't think Auburn is as good as people think they are. Harris is gonna have to be awesome, and the play calling will have to improve. I think Auburn is going to score a bunch.
Regarding Beckwith, I'd rather have the guy with more athleticism. What good is knowing where to be if you can't make the play anyway? Let the safety tell him where to go and hope for the best. I do realize that Welter will start, but LSU needs playmakers in the front 7, and Beckwith is probably their best shot.
gump
Footballguy
I am very interested to see AU against a West opponent.
They lost the best LT in the country, one of the best blocking FB in the country, and a very good RB.
It's not as easy as last year to run left for 7 yards a pop.
So Marshall is going to have to play better. He's obviously capable, but we'll see.
They lost the best LT in the country, one of the best blocking FB in the country, and a very good RB.
It's not as easy as last year to run left for 7 yards a pop.
So Marshall is going to have to play better. He's obviously capable, but we'll see.
MAC_32
Footballguy
It's probably just me because I hate it, but it seems like the conversation never stops.
Just play the games, enjoy them, root for the teams you like, and against the teams you hate...it'll all work itself out.
NutterButter
Footballguy
All I want to see happen is Auburn/Alabama arrive at the Iron Bowl undefeated. Then I want to see how the Selection Committee spins leaving the loser out of the playoffs over another 1 loss team from another conference. Alot of football left to play for this to happen but if it happens it will be interesting to see how it is spun....
