*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (2 Viewers)

[Capella]

http://awfulannouncing.com/2015/lee-corso-brought-to-tears-when-college-gameday-dusts-off-old-footage-when-he-was-a-navy-assistant-coach.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=lee-corso-brought-to-tears-when-college-gameday-dusts-off-old-footage-when-he-was-a-navy-assistant-coach

This was beautiful.

 

[Joe T]

McCaffrey got hosed. Shows there is still a huge bias against the Pac 12 and the west coast in general (except for USC).

 

[AAABatteries]

http://awfulannouncing.com/2015/lee-corso-brought-to-tears-when-college-gameday-dusts-off-old-footage-when-he-was-a-navy-assistant-coach.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=lee-corso-brought-to-tears-when-college-gameday-dusts-off-old-footage-when-he-was-a-navy-assistant-coach

This was beautiful.

Very cool

 

[Tom Servo]

McCaffrey got hosed. Shows there is still a huge bias against the Pac 12 and the west coast in general (except for USC).

 

[gump]

Montana St QB Dakota Prukop transferring for his senior year...down to Oregon and Alabama.

 

[The Commish]

Montana St QB Dakota Prukop transferring for his senior year...down to Oregon and Alabama.

Didn't Oregon just flip that kid that was headed to OSU?

 

[BigJohn]

Montana St QB Dakota Prukop transferring for his senior year...down to Oregon and Alabama.

Didn't Oregon just flip that kid that was headed to OSU?

Tristen Wallace. He flipped because he is interested in a position other than QB. OSU didn't agree.

 

[gump]

Montana St QB Dakota Prukop transferring for his senior year...down to Oregon and Alabama.

Didn't Oregon just flip that kid that was headed to OSU?

I think so, but Prukop is a 1-year senior...I think the OSU kid is an incoming freshman?

Alabama also has a 5-star redshirt...interesting to see how schools balance these transfers vs longterm kids.

 

[The Commish]

Montana St QB Dakota Prukop transferring for his senior year...down to Oregon and Alabama.

Didn't Oregon just flip that kid that was headed to OSU?

I think so, but Prukop is a 1-year senior...I think the OSU kid is an incoming freshman?

Alabama also has a 5-star redshirt...interesting to see how schools balance these transfers vs longterm kids.

Yeah...he's a 2016 recruit. This is the approach Harbaugh took this year with his 500 QBs on roster. I'm excited and hopeful to see this O'Korn kid who transferred from Houston and had to sit out this year. There's going to be intense competition this coming spring in AA for the QB position.

 

[B-Deep]

does it bother anyone else that Heisman votes are due before the Army Navy game?

it bothers the hell out of me, and this year when one of the teams had a very viable candidate it bothers me even more

 

[Capella]

does it bother anyone else that Heisman votes are due before the Army Navy game?

it bothers the hell out of me, and this year when one of the teams had a very viable candidate it bothers me even more

The whole system is stupid.

Pro football focus released their first and second team all-Americans today. Henry made "honorable mention" for RB.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

does it bother anyone else that Heisman votes are due before the Army Navy game?

it bothers the hell out of me, and this year when one of the teams had a very viable candidate it bothers me even more

He wasn't going to win it even with 10 TD against Army. I think your logic is backwards. Army Navy should move the game back if it matters. The pushed it because all the conf championship games took over first weekend of December.

If the Heisman is going to move then do it after the bowl games and let those count too.

 

[gump]

Cody Chaffins ‏@Cody_Fox5 18m18 minutes agoSandy Springs, GA

BREAKING: ATL police confirm responding to Ole Miss star Robert Nkemdiche falling from a 4th flr window. Said to have multiple cuts.

At approximately 2318 hours, Zone Two units responded to a person injured call where a male had fallen from a hotel room window. Upon arrival, the victim was conscious and breathing. He was transported to Grady Memorial and was in stable condition. Inside the hotel room, units located a small amount of suspected marijuana. The window was also broken out. It appears that the victim broke the window and then walked approximately 15 feet and climbed over a wall and fell approximately 15 feet. GI Squad and the Narcotics Unit responded to the scene along with the Crime Scene Unit.

http://florida.247sports.com/Bolt/BREAKING-Robert-Nkemdiche-falls-from-fourth-story-window-42000004wtf?

Ole Miss defensive lineman Robert Nkemdiche is being charged with possession of marijuana, according to the Atlanta Police Department. Nkemdiche took a fall off a 15-foot wall he climbed at an Atlanta hotel and was admitted to Grady Memorial Hospital in stable condition. A small amount of marijuana was found in Nkemdiche's hotel room.

 

[B-Deep]

does it bother anyone else that Heisman votes are due before the Army Navy game?

it bothers the hell out of me, and this year when one of the teams had a very viable candidate it bothers me even more

He wasn't going to win it even with 10 TD against Army.I think your logic is backwards. Army Navy should move the game back if it matters. The pushed it because all the conf championship games took over first weekend of December.

If the Heisman is going to move then do it after the bowl games and let those count too.

I don't really care who moves what, but how can you vote on the best college football player before the last regular season game is played? And it is not just any game, it is army v navy!

I'd be fine with post bolw games, I'd be fine with the ArmyvNavy game moving. But this is just stupid

 

[B-Deep]

And what if he had 10TDs, and 700 yards rushing!!!!!

sorry, don't count. Calendar and all.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I think your logic is backwards. Army Navy should move the game back if it matters. The pushed it because all the conf championship games took over first weekend of December.

Well yeah, the AAC has a championship game. Navy had to move the game.

 

[Capella]

I think your logic is backwards. Army Navy should move the game back if it matters. The pushed it because all the conf championship games took over first weekend of December.

Well yeah, the AAC has a championship game. Navy had to move the game.

Right.

I thought mandel had an interesting point on Sunday that if the b12 had a title game and Mayfield played well he would've been in NYC for the Heisman and likely a contender. It does seem like they are losing something as a conference not really being on that last weekend. But they got a playoff spot so whatever.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I think your logic is backwards. Army Navy should move the game back if it matters. The pushed it because all the conf championship games took over first weekend of December.

Well yeah, the AAC has a championship game. Navy had to move the game.

I know but shouldn't be regular season games after championship games and bowl announcements either. What if navy had beaten Houston and won the AAC and peach bid then lost to Army? Or would the bowls have all waited another week before announcing which further screws fans from making travel plans?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I think your logic is backwards. Army Navy should move the game back if it matters. The pushed it because all the conf championship games took over first weekend of December.

Well yeah, the AAC has a championship game. Navy had to move the game.

I know but shouldn't be regular season games after championship games and bowl announcements either. What if navy had beaten Houston and won the AAC and peach bid then lost to Army? Or would the bowls have all waited another week before announcing which further screws fans from making travel plans?

Fair point. I guess they just don't want to put that game up against all the other big rivalry games during rivalry week

 

[Tom Servo]

I think your logic is backwards. Army Navy should move the game back if it matters. The pushed it because all the conf championship games took over first weekend of December.

Well yeah, the AAC has a championship game. Navy had to move the game.

Right.

I thought mandel had an interesting point on Sunday that if the b12 had a title game and Mayfield played well he would've been in NYC for the Heisman and likely a contender. It does seem like they are losing something as a conference not really being on that last weekend. But they got a playoff spot so whatever.

B1G was like this for a few years. It appears that having a CCG has helped them.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

College sports fastest rising cost

The University of Illinois paid fired football coach Ron Zook $1.3 million while he spent a year trying a new career in banking and working on his water-skiing in Florida.

The University of California paid Jeff Tedford $1.8 million while he took a year off and vacationed in New Zealand.

The University of Maryland paid Ralph Friedgen $2 million while he tried out retirement, played a lot of golf and cruised the South Carolina coastline in his 24-foot whaler, "Fishing with the Fridge."

Auburn is paying $4mm a year to former coaches while operating at a $17mm deficit. oof

POOR EAGLE?!!!!

 

[bigmarc27]

Clemson landed two 5 stars today including the #2 overall player in the nation.

Need new sunglasses - it's so bright with all these stars!

 

[Christo]

Clemson landed two 5 stars today including the #2 overall player in the nation.

Need new sunglasses - it's so bright with all these stars!

Too bad they won't be able to suit up for your guys on 12/31

 

[JaxBill]

No wonder Mountain West is mad that two of its teams are in this Bowl.

NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl: Nevada Wolf Pack vs. Colorado State Rams

Date: Dec. 29, 7:30 p.m. ET on Campus Insiders/American Sports Network

Location: Tucson, Arizona | Arizona Stadium

 

[JaxBill]

5 star QB recruit Jacob Eason reaffirms commitment to UGA.

 

[whoknew]

Seems like the wheels are falling off at A&M.

Billy Liucci @billyliucci

Per multiple sources, Kyler Murray's intention as of one hour ago and following a meeting with Kevin Sumlin was to transfer from A&M

 

[whoknew]

Seems like the wheels are falling off at A&M.

Billy Liucci @billyliucci

Per multiple sources, Kyler Murray's intention as of one hour ago and following a meeting with Kevin Sumlin was to transfer from A&M

Not surprisingly -

Paul Finebaum @finebaum

"There is a mad scramble going on at the Bright Football Complex to get Kyler to change his mind" - @billyliucci

 

[Tom Servo]

Who's ready for some D-list bowl games this Saturday?

AFR Celebration Bowl
Alcorn State vs. North Carolina A&T Georgia Dome
Atlanta, GA Noon / ABC

Gildan New Mexico Bowl
Arizona vs. New Mexico University Stadium
Albuquerque, NM 2:00pm / ESPN

Royal Purple Las Vegas Bowl
BYU vs. (22) Utah Sam Boyd Stadium
Las Vegas, NV 3:30pm / ABC

Raycom Media Camellia Bowl
Ohio vs. Appalachian State Cramton Bowl
Montgomery, AL 5:30pm / ESPN

AutoNation Cure Bowl
San Jose State vs. Georgia State Citrus Bowl Stadium
Orlando, FL 7:00pm / CBSSN

R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Arkansas State vs. Louisiana Tech Mercedes-Benz Superdome
New Orleans, LA 9:00pm / ESPN

 

[Tom Servo]

2016 PAC-12 schedule released

Prominent non-conference games in 2016 include Texas Tech at Arizona State, Arizona vs. BYU (at Glendale, AZ), Texas at California, Colorado at Michigan, Oregon at Nebraska, Boise State at Oregon State, Stanford at Notre Dame, UCLA at Texas A&M, USC vs. Alabama (at Arlington, TX), BYU at Utah, Rutgers at Washington, and Washington State at Boise State.

 

[culdeus]

Seems like the wheels are falling off at A&M.

Billy Liucci @billyliucci

Per multiple sources, Kyler Murray's intention as of one hour ago and following a meeting with Kevin Sumlin was to transfer from A&M

Not surprisingly -

Paul Finebaum @finebaum

"There is a mad scramble going on at the Bright Football Complex to get Kyler to change his mind" - @billyliucci

He's tiny, should have gone WR out of high school. Even if he ever shows talent he won't be able stay on the field long enough to make an impact as a QB.

 

[Don Quixote]

Seems like the wheels are falling off at A&M.

Billy Liucci @billyliucci

Per multiple sources, Kyler Murray's intention as of one hour ago and following a meeting with Kevin Sumlin was to transfer from A&M

Not surprisingly -

Paul Finebaum @finebaum

"There is a mad scramble going on at the Bright Football Complex to get Kyler to change his mind" - @billyliucci

He's tiny, should have gone WR out of high school. Even if he ever shows talent he won't be able stay on the field long enough to make an impact as a QB.

For pro career, he's probably better off in baseball.

 

[General Malaise]

2016 PAC-12 schedule released

Prominent non-conference games in 2016 include Texas Tech at Arizona State, Arizona vs. BYU (at Glendale, AZ), Texas at California, Colorado at Michigan, Oregon at Nebraska, Boise State at Oregon State, Stanford at Notre Dame, UCLA at Texas A&M, USC vs. Alabama (at Arlington, TX), BYU at Utah, Rutgers at Washington, and Washington State at Boise State.

UVA comes to Eugene in 2016 too.

 

[Joe T]

2016 PAC-12 schedule released

Prominent non-conference games in 2016 include Texas Tech at Arizona State, Arizona vs. BYU (at Glendale, AZ), Texas at California, Colorado at Michigan, Oregon at Nebraska, Boise State at Oregon State, Stanford at Notre Dame, UCLA at Texas A&M, USC vs. Alabama (at Arlington, TX), BYU at Utah, Rutgers at Washington, and Washington State at Boise State.

UVA comes to Eugene in 2016 too.

UVA < WKU

 

[gump]

Seems like the wheels are falling off at A&M.

Billy Liucci @billyliucci

Per multiple sources, Kyler Murray's intention as of one hour ago and following a meeting with Kevin Sumlin was to transfer from A&M

Not surprisingly -

Paul Finebaum @finebaum

"There is a mad scramble going on at the Bright Football Complex to get Kyler to change his mind" - @billyliucci

He's tiny, should have gone WR out of high school. Even if he ever shows talent he won't be able stay on the field long enough to make an impact as a QB.

Supposedly the defections by star players isn't over. And a 4-star recruit decommitted yesterday.

 

[JaxBill]

Who's ready for some D-list bowl games this Saturday?

AFR Celebration Bowl

Alcorn State vs. North Carolina A&T Georgia Dome

Atlanta, GA Noon / ABC

Gildan New Mexico Bowl

Arizona vs. New Mexico University Stadium

Albuquerque, NM 2:00pm / ESPN

Royal Purple Las Vegas Bowl

BYU vs. (22) Utah Sam Boyd Stadium

Las Vegas, NV 3:30pm / ABC

Raycom Media Camellia Bowl

Ohio vs. Appalachian State Cramton Bowl

Montgomery, AL 5:30pm / ESPN

AutoNation Cure Bowl

San Jose State vs. Georgia State Citrus Bowl Stadium

Orlando, FL 7:00pm / CBSSN

R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl

Arkansas State vs. Louisiana Tech Mercedes-Benz Superdome

New Orleans, LA 9:00pm / ESPN

This might be decent

Royal Purple Las Vegas Bowl

BYU vs. (22) Utah Sam Boyd Stadium

Las Vegas, NV 3:30pm / ABC

 

[Capella]

Yea that Vegas game is awesome

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Two years ago, Texas Tech didn't think Baker Mayfield was good enough to earn a scholarship but he was more than good enough to play. Mayfield led Texas Tech to a 7-0 start as an unrecruited freshman walk-on. As that unrecruited walk-on, Mayfield became the Big 12 offensive freshman of the year. Today, as Oklahoma's quarterback, he is in line to play for a national championship. He just finished fourth in the Heisman Trophy voting.

The school that needed that unrecruited walk-on to bail them out would not let go. In fact, Texas Tech has more control over an All-America caliber quarterback -- more than 24 months in the team's rear-view mirror -- than anyone except perhaps Mayfield's parents.

The NCAA, the conference, and the school -- specifically coach Kliff Kingsbury -- would not sign off on Mayfield getting a fourth year of eligibility in 2017. The Red Raiders did not provide him with the opportunity to use a one-time transfer exception. Oh sure, they can hide behind Big 12 and NCAA rules, but the fact remains. By not signing off on waiving Mayfield's redshirt year after he transferred to Oklahoma in 2014, none of them agreed to do the right thing.

About the only reason any of it matters now is the former walk-on is suddenly All-America worthy. If Mayfield was a third-stringer, you have to doubt any of it would be an issue. As it stands, it looks petty, vindictive ... and completely by the book. Big 12 rules call for intra-conference transfers to lose a year of eligibility. It gets complicated when you consider Mayfield was a free agent his entire time at Tech -- bound to the school by exactly nothing except those rules.

He had not only lost the starting job for the bowl game after that 2013 season, there was no clear guarantee if and when Mayfield was getting that scholarship. This crisis comes down to a basic moral question: What right does Tech have to control the college career of a now-star player they didn't think enough of to buy books for? Being a free agent has been anything but free.

As Mayfield's career is blowing up, it could be ending abruptly when his eligibility suddenly expires after the 2016 season. Some of this is thanks to short-sighted and longstanding NCAA bylaw. Some of this is thanks a school that couldn't or wouldn't find room for a walk-on who got most of his recruiting interest from Florida Atlantic.

One who then helped the Red Raiders to an eight-win season -- still the best of Kingsbury's short head-coaching career.

Mayfield's circumstances and departure should have made him that free agent -- at least transfer-wise. Instead, he remains held hostage in a frustrating situation.

If he can't play, he can't beat Texas Tech (at least in 2017). It looks like the quarterback, his family and Oklahoma are out of options. Even if Texas Tech were somehow convinced to do the right thing and grant the transfer exemption, it could not retroactively be applied.

“I'm not aware of any [options],” Big 12 spokesman Bob Burda said.

Not many folks are talking. Mayfield's family has hired high-powered attorney Jim Darnell from El Paso. (Check his bonafides repping Johnny Manziel.)

The Big 12 faculty athletic representatives who denied an appeal in May won't so much as reveal the vote totals against Mayfield's request. All we know is that it was a majority, at least 6-4 against. Those FARs are supposed to be a moral conscious of fair treatment of the student-athlete. In this case, they're hiding behind their votes. As with most cases like this, the right thing to do gets lost in the crossfire. No doubt, Big 12 and NCAA officials are worried an exemption for Mayfield will open some sort of loophole -- except that none of us can remember many unrecruited walk-ons becoming All-Americans.

Mayfield deserves better. Mayfield deserves that exemption. If he is truly done after next season, the only winners are Kingsbury and Tech.

Kingsbury doesn't even have to say out loud he has no desire to face Mayfield two more times. He's a coach. That concern has to play into this. In October, Mayfield threw for two touchdowns in a 63-27 win over the Red Raiders.

We have no idea what level of animosity -- if any -- exists between Mayfield and Kingsbury. Baker's father, James, did not immediately return a call seeking comment. The Oklahoman reported Mayfield left after 2013 “because of issues with” Kingsbury.

But that's kind of the point. None of that matters. Shouldn't the best interest of the athlete hold sway here? Mayfield is the guy who (next to) no one wanted out of high school. Mayfield is the one who stepped up when injuries left Kingsbury with no other options in 2013, becoming the first true freshman walk-on quarterback to start a season for a BCS school.

"We didn't envision this when he came on campus,” Kingsbury said that night.

Oklahoma isn't blameless here. Mayfield grew up a Sooners fan. During an unofficial visit in high school, Mayfield's dad said Oklahoma coaches were “unimpressed.” That's on Bob Stoops and his staff. Given a second chance, they cashed in. Mayfield is on scholarship at OU. Whether Kingsbury had a scholarship available isn't really relevant. Texas Tech shouldn't have this much control over a walk-on. No one should.

The NCAA allows a one-time transfer exemption for walk-ons if the former school approves. Tech did not certify in writing that it had no objection that Mayfield to be eligible right away at OU in 2014, according to The Oklahoman. That essentially sealed Mayfield's fate. He should be a redshirt sophomore with two years of eligibility remaining. Instead, he was left with three years of eligibility in a four-year period.

And you wonder why the modern college athlete feels more empowered? Northwestern players considered unionization. Last month, those Missouri players threatened a boycott unless the system president was removed.

In September, Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby warned of the future speaking to the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.

“There will be a day in the future when the popcorn is popped, the TV cameras are there, the fans are in the stands and the team decides they're not going to play,” Bowlsby said. “Mark my words.”

In this case, beer doesn't necessarily lead to heroin. But Mayfield situation's certainly doesn't further the current trend of liberating the athlete.

An NCAA committee continues to work on loosening those transfer restrictions. It's complicated starting with the fact millionaire coaches can leave anytime they want.

Meanwhile, Mayfield remains strangely bound to the school that used him up as a street free agent. And then used him to further their own interests.

All by the book, mind you.

 

[Tom Servo]

^^ I could see TT being jerks about this if Mayfield was on scholarship, but he wasn't. This just looks like sour grapes.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25415824/baker-mayfields-family-hires-johnny-manziels-lawyer-to-get-extra-eligibility?FTAG=YHF7e3228e

Mayfield hired Manziel's attorney

As far as I know Mayfield wasn't receiving any type of aid from Texas Tech. No scholarship, no scholarship offer after he was Freshman of the year for the BIG12 plus the Texas Tech records he broke. Any kid would transfer when they are not offered a scholarship after getting that award.

NCAA = crazy

 

[Don Quixote]

Looks like Murray is officially out..

Billy Liucci
‏@billyliucci

BREAKING: I have confirmed that freshman quarterback Kyler Murray has requested a transfer from Texas A&M and that the decision is 'final.'

 

[gump]

Sumlin may also be out, Herman in.

 

[Capella]

Sumlin may also be out, Herman in.

He should be. He's a mess. Not sure why anybody holds him in any regard.

 

[Joe T]

Sumlin may also be out, Herman in.

He should be. He's a mess. Not sure why anybody holds him in any regard.

Recruiting?

 

[Capella]

Sumlin may also be out, Herman in.

He should be. He's a mess. Not sure why anybody holds him in any regard.

Recruiting?

What does it matter when he goes 8-4 every year.

 

[gump]

Sumlin may also be out, Herman in.

He should be. He's a mess. Not sure why anybody holds him in any regard.

Recruiting?

What does it matter when he goes 8-4 every year.

He coached Manziel and beat Alabama...that's it...a new coach there is a little scary.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Sumlin may also be out, Herman in.

He should be. He's a mess. Not sure why anybody holds him in any regard.

Recruiting?

What does it matter when he goes 8-4 every year.

He coached Manziel and beat Alabama...that's it...a new coach there is a little scary.

Yeah, Manziel's been a stud without Sumlin as a coach. Sumlin's 3 years at A&M are their best three year run since the late 90's, and the schedule is lot more difficult now. A&M doesn't exactly have the history of Michigan or Notre Dame here.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Sumlin may also be out, Herman in.

He should be. He's a mess. Not sure why anybody holds him in any regard.

Recruiting?

What does it matter when he goes 8-4 every year.

He coached Manziel and beat Alabama...that's it...a new coach there is a little scary.

Yeah, Manziel's been a stud without Sumlin as a coach. Sumlin's 3 years at A&M are their best three year run since the late 90's, and the schedule is lot more difficult now. A&M doesn't exactly have the history of Michigan or Notre Dame here.

Yeah, I'm a little mystified by the "Sumlin sucks" stuff, too, but maybe I don't pay enough attention. What has he done besides win at an almost unprecedented rate for that school? Is he an #######? Mistreat players? I honestly don't know.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Sumlin may also be out, Herman in.

He should be. He's a mess. Not sure why anybody holds him in any regard.

Recruiting?

What does it matter when he goes 8-4 every year.

He coached Manziel and beat Alabama...that's it...a new coach there is a little scary.

Yeah, Manziel's been a stud without Sumlin as a coach. Sumlin's 3 years at A&M are their best three year run since the late 90's, and the schedule is lot more difficult now. A&M doesn't exactly have the history of Michigan or Notre Dame here.

Yeah, I'm a little mystified by the "Sumlin sucks" stuff, too, but maybe I don't pay enough attention. What has he done besides win at an almost unprecedented rate for that school? Is he an #######? Mistreat players? I honestly don't know.

I don't get it either. I guess gump would agree Saban isn't very good since he wins with the best players.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Will Grier leaving Florida. Tons of good QB leaving their current schools this year.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Will Grier leaving Florida. Tons of good QB leaving their current schools this year.

I can't find an explanation for why he is doing this anywhere. He will still have to serve the remaining half a season of his punishment after sitting out a year if he transfers to a FBS school. And the punishment doesn't go away if he goes lower division.

First decent QB for UF since Tebow in 2009. The posters at Gator Country are dismissing it as no big deal because we have Del Rio and Franks, but neither of those guys has shown anything in a Florida uniform. They are supposed to be good, but so were Brantley and Driskel.