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Yeah, I don't know why he's a hot commodity. At all.Why would anybody want Mora.
Not trolling Tim here, serious question.
Yeah, I don't know why he's a hot commodity. At all.Why would anybody want Mora.
Not trolling Tim here, serious question.
Don't think we have one this year.What happened to that bizarrely scheduled crappy bowl game that would come way after all the rest but just before the title game? Is it gone or has it not come yet?
The Gerry Faust years were some of the best Notre Dame ever had.Brian Kelly leaving would surprise me. He flirted with the Eagles last time before they hired Chip.What college coaches jump to the NFL after Balck Monday?
Brian Kelly probably the most common name, and supposedly he loves the Giants.
Saban, Harbaugh and Meyer are out.
Shaw? Sumlin? Mora?
Playing tOSU this week was appropriate as Kelly is Notre Dame's John Cooper. Sure he's done better than DavieWeisingham but they were historically terrible. Kelly's teams routinely come close but grasp defeat from the jaws of victory.
I would be honestly surprised to see him get a shot, not that he doesn't want one.
Yeah we all loved those Madonna blue unis he trotted out there: http://s226.photobucket.com/user/rocketshark/media/duerson-faust.jpg.htmlThe Gerry Faust years were some of the best Notre Dame ever had.Brian Kelly leaving would surprise me. He flirted with the Eagles last time before they hired Chip.What college coaches jump to the NFL after Balck Monday?
Brian Kelly probably the most common name, and supposedly he loves the Giants.
Saban, Harbaugh and Meyer are out.
Shaw? Sumlin? Mora?
Playing tOSU this week was appropriate as Kelly is Notre Dame's John Cooper. Sure he's done better than DavieWeisingham but they were historically terrible. Kelly's teams routinely come close but grasp defeat from the jaws of victory.
I would be honestly surprised to see him get a shot, not that he doesn't want one.![]()
I agree with this, but I probably would have preferred losing to TCU in a different manner. That was humiliating.Oregon has demoted Don Pellum from Defensive Cordinator to Linebackers coach. They will be looking to hire a new Defensive Cordinator. This is great news and had to be done. Pellum has been in way over his head but is a great recruiter.
If Oregon holds on against TCU then maybe this change wouldn't have happened. I would much rather take the TCU loss and get someone who can turn around the defense going forward.
Update?Could very well be correct but Oregon would be favored over any of these teams minus the 4 playoff teams and OSU. I would love to see Oregon curb stomp the Seminoles again.Here's how I think it will shake out now.
Orange: Clemson/MSU
Cotton: Bama/Oklahoma
Peach: FSU/Houston
Fiesta: OSU/Notre Dame
Rose: Iowa/Stanford
Sugar: Miss/Oklahoma St
No Oregon.
I could see UNC taking the Peach instead of FSU after playing Clemson tight, but I doubt it.
TCU game was the epitome of the Ducks season. Elite team with Adams healthy and mediocre to bad without him. Not really surprising to me that they collapsed when Lockie came in. Top 5 team this year with Adams.Update?Could very well be correct but Oregon would be favored over any of these teams minus the 4 playoff teams and OSU. I would love to see Oregon curb stomp the Seminoles again.Here's how I think it will shake out now.
Orange: Clemson/MSU
Cotton: Bama/Oklahoma
Peach: FSU/Houston
Fiesta: OSU/Notre Dame
Rose: Iowa/Stanford
Sugar: Miss/Oklahoma St
No Oregon.
I could see UNC taking the Peach instead of FSU after playing Clemson tight, but I doubt it.
I think Oregon should stick to playing in their weight class. A better challenge would have been Oregon vs WKU.
Yeah I am not sure I want Wilcox, he may have burned too many bridges anyways. Orlando from Houston would be my choiceI agree with this, but I probably would have preferred losing to TCU in a different manner. That was humiliating.Oregon has demoted Don Pellum from Defensive Cordinator to Linebackers coach. They will be looking to hire a new Defensive Cordinator. This is great news and had to be done. Pellum has been in way over his head but is a great recruiter.
If Oregon holds on against TCU then maybe this change wouldn't have happened. I would much rather take the TCU loss and get someone who can turn around the defense going forward.
Scuttlebutt is Justin Wilcox would be the perfect fit, despite his ineffectiveness at USC in some games, though he did lose some key players.
They have recruited relatively well on the defensive side except for line backers recently, coaching has been the biggest problem. With Oregon's tempo, 3 and outs are a big problem for the defense when they are already losing the time of possession battle. They were on the field the entire 2nd half. However, you are correct that because of the defense they were not the same elite team they have been in recent years. I think the two best teams are playing on Monday.The Commish said:How is the loss of Adams an impact on the defense again? That side of the ball completely melted down. Having to outscore people to win isn't really "elite" IMO. You don't have to be world beaters on defense, but you have to have something. Maybe the defensive coaching changes are what's needed. Will the new group put a focus on getting top talent on the defensive side of the ball?
If the D creates their own 3 and outs, they won't be on the field very long.They have recruited relatively well on the defensive side except for line backers recently, coaching has been the biggest problem. With Oregon's tempo, 3 and outs are a big problem for the defense when they are already losing the time of possession battle. They were on the field the entire 2nd half. However, you are correct that because of the defense they were not the same elite team they have been in recent years. I think the two best teams are playing on Monday.The Commish said:How is the loss of Adams an impact on the defense again? That side of the ball completely melted down. Having to outscore people to win isn't really "elite" IMO. You don't have to be world beaters on defense, but you have to have something. Maybe the defensive coaching changes are what's needed. Will the new group put a focus on getting top talent on the defensive side of the ball?
You listen to sports talk?I'm from Indiana, don't care about the Huskies. In fact not really a fan because they they take over chunks of local sports talk.Score update?Lame uni's Ducks.
Do you think the Huskies win before 2020?
My wife is a Duck.
Oregon is a great program, no doubt, but elite teams don't become bad with the loss of one player. That's not what "elite" means.They have recruited relatively well on the defensive side except for line backers recently, coaching has been the biggest problem. With Oregon's tempo, 3 and outs are a big problem for the defense when they are already losing the time of possession battle. They were on the field the entire 2nd half. However, you are correct that because of the defense they were not the same elite team they have been in recent years. I think the two best teams are playing on Monday.The Commish said:How is the loss of Adams an impact on the defense again? That side of the ball completely melted down. Having to outscore people to win isn't really "elite" IMO. You don't have to be world beaters on defense, but you have to have something. Maybe the defensive coaching changes are what's needed. Will the new group put a focus on getting top talent on the defensive side of the ball?
This game makes me so nervous. Watson is the type of QB who deals us fits.Matching up O and D efficiencies with PPG, and you get Alabama 28-20 over Clemson.
Close to the line and O/U.
But there is also a big SOS difference for Alabama.
Dobbs is probably the closest we've played, and he was a handful. Kelly and Dak are nowhere near as dangerous running. We're using Barnett this week in practice to play the Watson role.This game makes me so nervous. Watson is the type of QB who deals us fits.Matching up O and D efficiencies with PPG, and you get Alabama 28-20 over Clemson.
Close to the line and O/U.
But there is also a big SOS difference for Alabama.
My biggest issue with the Ducks collapse was not on the defense; it was on the offense and here Helfrich needs to own up and take fault for what happened. Forget Lockie for a second - what the mother ducking duck was Oregon doing snapping the ball with 20+ seconds on the play clock? You have the lead, the other team is begging for precious time left and instead of milking the play clock down to 0 EVERY snap, you hurry up and puke on your jersey? That's inexcusable. IMO, that needs to be addressed and NOBODY here is talking about it. It's maddening. It is head spinningly stupid.The Commish said:How is the loss of Adams an impact on the defense again? That side of the ball completely melted down. Having to outscore people to win isn't really "elite" IMO. You don't have to be world beaters on defense, but you have to have something. Maybe the defensive coaching changes are what's needed. Will the new group put a focus on getting top talent on the defensive side of the ball?
Not sure....I suspect the usual suspects...Oklahoma, Texas (since they aren't seeing the windfall they were expecting from Longhorn TV), even GT...remember that one? That wouldn't surprise me. They're just rumblings for now....haven't heard any specific names.Who are the rumors this time?
My point above was they were up 31-0 but the conversation was framed as the "event" that made them lose was the loss of the QB. Sorry if I misunderstood your (or whoever pointed to the loss of QB). Agree with most everything you say here.My biggest issue with the Ducks collapse was not on the defense; it was on the offense and here Helfrich needs to own up and take fault for what happened. Forget Lockie for a second - what the mother ducking duck was Oregon doing snapping the ball with 20+ seconds on the play clock? You have the lead, the other team is begging for precious time left and instead of milking the play clock down to 0 EVERY snap, you hurry up and puke on your jersey? That's inexcusable. IMO, that needs to be addressed and NOBODY here is talking about it. It's maddening. It is head spinningly stupid.The Commish said:How is the loss of Adams an impact on the defense again? That side of the ball completely melted down. Having to outscore people to win isn't really "elite" IMO. You don't have to be world beaters on defense, but you have to have something. Maybe the defensive coaching changes are what's needed. Will the new group put a focus on getting top talent on the defensive side of the ball?
(Seriously, fix this ####### paragraph spacing problem where you hit "reply" and it bunches paragraphs up).
Back to Lockie and the bad snaps from the back-up Center: Uh, hey coaches....why don't you have the kid, you know, LINE UP UNDER THE CENTER'S BUTT AND TAKE THE SNAP???? Don't tell me you can't do that, everybody can do that at this level. It's the most basic goddddammmnn play in all of football. Ready. Set. HIKE - the ball goes from AssssToHand and then you turn around and hand it off to one of your gajillion running backs. And then, you get up to the line of scrimmage and you wait for the play clock to reach 0 and you do it again.
This is the kind of chit that makes me want to turn in my season tickets and root for Washington State. I can't stand idiocy like this. It's the same hubris that cost them the biggest game of 2012 against Stanford when instead of taking a gimme field goal and the lead, the team went for it on 4th down. Didn't make them and ultimately, that cost them the game. Look, I love the flashy uniforms and the speed and the blur offense, but at the end of the day, when the game matters most, old fashioned, traditional football matters. And Oregon can't do even that? So frustrating.
#getoffmylawn #needtoreplacemyTV
You are absolutely correct here. Helfrich lost this game by not simply running the clock down to zero and running every play in the 2nd half. When they were running hurry up with Lockie I was screaming at the tv. Several times they would get 5 yards from Freeman on 1st down and then throw 2 incompletions. MaddeningMy biggest issue with the Ducks collapse was not on the defense; it was on the offense and here Helfrich needs to own up and take fault for what happened. Forget Lockie for a second - what the mother ducking duck was Oregon doing snapping the ball with 20+ seconds on the play clock? You have the lead, the other team is begging for precious time left and instead of milking the play clock down to 0 EVERY snap, you hurry up and puke on your jersey? That's inexcusable. IMO, that needs to be addressed and NOBODY here is talking about it. It's maddening. It is head spinningly stupid.The Commish said:How is the loss of Adams an impact on the defense again? That side of the ball completely melted down. Having to outscore people to win isn't really "elite" IMO. You don't have to be world beaters on defense, but you have to have something. Maybe the defensive coaching changes are what's needed. Will the new group put a focus on getting top talent on the defensive side of the ball?
(Seriously, fix this ####### paragraph spacing problem where you hit "reply" and it bunches paragraphs up).
Back to Lockie and the bad snaps from the back-up Center: Uh, hey coaches....why don't you have the kid, you know, LINE UP UNDER THE CENTER'S BUTT AND TAKE THE SNAP???? Don't tell me you can't do that, everybody can do that at this level. It's the most basic goddddammmnn play in all of football. Ready. Set. HIKE - the ball goes from AssssToHand and then you turn around and hand it off to one of your gajillion running backs. And then, you get up to the line of scrimmage and you wait for the play clock to reach 0 and you do it again.
This is the kind of chit that makes me want to turn in my season tickets and root for Washington State. I can't stand idiocy like this. It's the same hubris that cost them the biggest game of 2012 against Stanford when instead of taking a gimme field goal and the lead, the team went for it on 4th down. Didn't make it and ultimately, that cost them the game. Look, I love the flashy uniforms and the speed and the blur offense, but at the end of the day, when the game matters most, old fashioned, traditional football matters. And Oregon can't do even that? So frustrating.
#getoffmylawn #needtoreplacemyTV
I have zero doubt in my mind that the Ducks would have won with Adams piloting the 2nd half, but in now way to I believe his injury is the main reason why they lost. The head coach deserves most of the blame and he's basically getting off scot free here. Very frustrating.My point above was they were up 31-0 but the conversation was framed as the "event" that made them lose was the loss of the QB. Sorry if I misunderstood your (or whoever pointed to the loss of QB). Agree with most everything you say here.My biggest issue with the Ducks collapse was not on the defense; it was on the offense and here Helfrich needs to own up and take fault for what happened. Forget Lockie for a second - what the mother ducking duck was Oregon doing snapping the ball with 20+ seconds on the play clock? You have the lead, the other team is begging for precious time left and instead of milking the play clock down to 0 EVERY snap, you hurry up and puke on your jersey? That's inexcusable. IMO, that needs to be addressed and NOBODY here is talking about it. It's maddening. It is head spinningly stupid.The Commish said:How is the loss of Adams an impact on the defense again? That side of the ball completely melted down. Having to outscore people to win isn't really "elite" IMO. You don't have to be world beaters on defense, but you have to have something. Maybe the defensive coaching changes are what's needed. Will the new group put a focus on getting top talent on the defensive side of the ball?
(Seriously, fix this ####### paragraph spacing problem where you hit "reply" and it bunches paragraphs up).
Back to Lockie and the bad snaps from the back-up Center: Uh, hey coaches....why don't you have the kid, you know, LINE UP UNDER THE CENTER'S BUTT AND TAKE THE SNAP???? Don't tell me you can't do that, everybody can do that at this level. It's the most basic goddddammmnn play in all of football. Ready. Set. HIKE - the ball goes from AssssToHand and then you turn around and hand it off to one of your gajillion running backs. And then, you get up to the line of scrimmage and you wait for the play clock to reach 0 and you do it again.
This is the kind of chit that makes me want to turn in my season tickets and root for Washington State. I can't stand idiocy like this. It's the same hubris that cost them the biggest game of 2012 against Stanford when instead of taking a gimme field goal and the lead, the team went for it on 4th down. Didn't make them and ultimately, that cost them the game. Look, I love the flashy uniforms and the speed and the blur offense, but at the end of the day, when the game matters most, old fashioned, traditional football matters. And Oregon can't do even that? So frustrating.
#getoffmylawn #needtoreplacemyTV
Tulane, Buffalo, Toledo, South Dakota State, Hawaii, BYU, RPI, Chicago, HarvardWho are the rumors this time?
Georgia Tech would be a good one, I would think. This could be inaccurate, but I read last night that adding Rutgers meant 5.5 million more cable subscribers with B1G network. At $1 per, that is $66 million per year. Atlanta would obviously be one of the bigger markets out there to help them do something similar.Not sure....I suspect the usual suspects...Oklahoma, Texas (since they aren't seeing the windfall they were expecting from Longhorn TV), even GT...remember that one? That wouldn't surprise me. They're just rumblings for now....haven't heard any specific names.Who are the rumors this time?
Can't wait for the rivalry games against Indiana and Rutgers.Georgia Tech would be a good one, I would think. This could be inaccurate, but I read last night that adding Rutgers meant 5.5 million more cable subscribers with B1G network. At $1 per, that is $66 million per year. Atlanta would obviously be one of the bigger markets out there to help them do something similar.Not sure....I suspect the usual suspects...Oklahoma, Texas (since they aren't seeing the windfall they were expecting from Longhorn TV), even GT...remember that one? That wouldn't surprise me. They're just rumblings for now....haven't heard any specific names.Who are the rumors this time?
been doing that for a very long time....the new TV deal they are shooting for plus all the CIC money on the academic side is giving these schools boatloads. I don't think they ever come south, but if they did, it'd be hard to ignore that sort of money.Can't wait for the rivalry games against Indiana and Rutgers.Georgia Tech would be a good one, I would think. This could be inaccurate, but I read last night that adding Rutgers meant 5.5 million more cable subscribers with B1G network. At $1 per, that is $66 million per year. Atlanta would obviously be one of the bigger markets out there to help them do something similar.Not sure....I suspect the usual suspects...Oklahoma, Texas (since they aren't seeing the windfall they were expecting from Longhorn TV), even GT...remember that one? That wouldn't surprise me. They're just rumblings for now....haven't heard any specific names.Who are the rumors this time?
I had heard the whole GT thing because of the ATL market during the last round. I would think the B1G would have to be ####ting money to get them but who knows.
They can have Syracuse, BC and Wake Forest though.
Ah yes the grant of rights stuff that WV dude used to talk about. No one in the P5 can go anywhere.Didn't the ACC sign a tv grant deal? Don't think anybody is going anywhere for a while.
It's still amazing that cable companies can just steal $12 a year from millions of people that don't even know Rutgers is in the big ten let alone there is a channel for them on the dial.Georgia Tech would be a good one, I would think. This could be inaccurate, but I read last night that adding Rutgers meant 5.5 million more cable subscribers with B1G network. At $1 per, that is $66 million per year. Atlanta would obviously be one of the bigger markets out there to help them do something similar.Not sure....I suspect the usual suspects...Oklahoma, Texas (since they aren't seeing the windfall they were expecting from Longhorn TV), even GT...remember that one? That wouldn't surprise me. They're just rumblings for now....haven't heard any specific names.Who are the rumors this time?
The ratings on the semi finals were horrible. So we're the ratings on rose bowl and sugar bowl (so called champions bowl that was supposed to change the landscape of cfb when it was announced).It's still amazing that cable companies can just steal $12 a year from millions of people that don't even know Rutgers is in the big ten let alone there is a channel for them on the dial.Georgia Tech would be a good one, I would think. This could be inaccurate, but I read last night that adding Rutgers meant 5.5 million more cable subscribers with B1G network. At $1 per, that is $66 million per year. Atlanta would obviously be one of the bigger markets out there to help them do something similar.Not sure....I suspect the usual suspects...Oklahoma, Texas (since they aren't seeing the windfall they were expecting from Longhorn TV), even GT...remember that one? That wouldn't surprise me. They're just rumblings for now....haven't heard any specific names.Who are the rumors this time?
Is ESPN still struggling to stay afloat? I haven't heard how their financials are lately.
I thought the bowl committee set the games, no? I've heard so many different positions, I have no idea which one is correct. It's the fault of whoever was responsible for putting the games on NYE. If that's espn, I agree with Cappy, screw 'em. If that's this bowl committee I'm40% lower than last year and even worse for the sugar I believe.
ESPN made this mess themselves though, #### them.
at espn for having agreed to letting this committee dictate when the games are played. Either way, it's pretty funny that espn is getting worked on this one.I pay about $80 a month for my TV service. Based on the channels I watch and the channels my wife watches, we are getting worked for about $50 a month by all the other TV channels. When we get back in our house I'm taking a serious look at cutting the satellite.It's still amazing that cable companies can just steal $12 a year from millions of people that don't even know Rutgers is in the big ten let alone there is a channel for them on the dial.Georgia Tech would be a good one, I would think. This could be inaccurate, but I read last night that adding Rutgers meant 5.5 million more cable subscribers with B1G network. At $1 per, that is $66 million per year. Atlanta would obviously be one of the bigger markets out there to help them do something similar.Not sure....I suspect the usual suspects...Oklahoma, Texas (since they aren't seeing the windfall they were expecting from Longhorn TV), even GT...remember that one? That wouldn't surprise me. They're just rumblings for now....haven't heard any specific names.Who are the rumors this time?
Is ESPN still struggling to stay afloat? I haven't heard how their financials are lately.
The bowl committee did set the games.I was referring to being worked by the rose and sugar before the playoff deal came out.I thought the bowl committee set the games, no? I've heard so many different positions, I have no idea which one is correct. It's the fault of whoever was responsible for putting the games on NYE. If that's espn, I agree with Cappy, screw 'em. If that's this bowl committee I'm40% lower than last year and even worse for the sugar I believe.
ESPN made this mess themselves though, #### them.at espn for having agreed to letting this committee dictate when the games are played. Either way, it's pretty funny that espn is getting worked on this one.
Any rumor that does not include WKU isLong Ball Larry said:Tulane, Buffalo, Toledo, South Dakota State, Hawaii, BYU, RPI, Chicago, HarvardRamblin Wreck said:Who are the rumors this time?
Was this "deal" that those two would always play on NYD? I asked before, but what's the harm in agreeing to that as well as having the semis the same day. If they want to go against the semis and becoming completely irrelevant rather quickly, that's on themCapella said:The bowl committee did set the games.I was referring to being worked by the rose and sugar before the playoff deal came out.The Commish said:I thought the bowl committee set the games, no? I've heard so many different positions, I have no idea which one is correct. It's the fault of whoever was responsible for putting the games on NYE. If that's espn, I agree with Cappy, screw 'em. If that's this bowl committee I'mCapella said:40% lower than last year and even worse for the sugar I believe.
ESPN made this mess themselves though, #### them.at espn for having agreed to letting this committee dictate when the games are played. Either way, it's pretty funny that espn is getting worked on this one.
1) yes locked into 5 and 8 pm every NYD. 2) it would be on them but ESPN got into bed with everybody. And the CFP wouldn't sell the rights to fox to have them compete with the Rose/sugar anyways.Was this "deal" that those two would always play on NYD? I asked before, but what's the harm in agreeing to that as well as having the semis the same day. If they want to go against the semis and becoming completely irrelevant rather quickly, that's on themCapella said:The bowl committee did set the games.I was referring to being worked by the rose and sugar before the playoff deal came out.The Commish said:I thought the bowl committee set the games, no? I've heard so many different positions, I have no idea which one is correct. It's the fault of whoever was responsible for putting the games on NYE. If that's espn, I agree with Cappy, screw 'em. If that's this bowl committee I'mCapella said:40% lower than last year and even worse for the sugar I believe.
ESPN made this mess themselves though, #### them.at espn for having agreed to letting this committee dictate when the games are played. Either way, it's pretty funny that espn is getting worked on this one.
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yeah screw 'em....1) yes locked into 5 and 8 pm every NYD.2) it would be on them but ESPN got into bed with everybody. And the CFP wouldn't sell the rights to fox to have them compete with the Rose/sugar anyways.Was this "deal" that those two would always play on NYD? I asked before, but what's the harm in agreeing to that as well as having the semis the same day. If they want to go against the semis and becoming completely irrelevant rather quickly, that's on themCapella said:The bowl committee did set the games.I was referring to being worked by the rose and sugar before the playoff deal came out.The Commish said:I thought the bowl committee set the games, no? I've heard so many different positions, I have no idea which one is correct. It's the fault of whoever was responsible for putting the games on NYE. If that's espn, I agree with Cappy, screw 'em. If that's this bowl committee I'mCapella said:40% lower than last year and even worse for the sugar I believe.
ESPN made this mess themselves though, #### them.at espn for having agreed to letting this committee dictate when the games are played. Either way, it's pretty funny that espn is getting worked on this one.
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Remember reading about Virginia, North Carolina, Kansas and Georgia Tech. Some schmo wrote an article about it. Will try and find it.Ramblin Wreck said:Who are the rumors this time?
And here it is...popped right up... http://www.btpowerhouse.com/2015/7/21/8911733/big-ten-expansion-would-be-beneficial-down-the-roadRemember reading about Virginia, North Carolina, Kansas and Georgia Tech. Some schmo wrote an article about it. Will try and find it.Ramblin Wreck said:Who are the rumors this time?