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*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (1 Viewer)

gump said:
Ole Miss slipped their response to the NCAA NOA in today, as the sports world is looking the other way at Baylor and heading into Memorial Day weekend.
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According to Staples, the total of the admitted violations comes to about $28k...cash handouts, rental cars, etc.. He thinks it'll lead to some scholly reductions, a coach firing or two, a possible suspension of Freeze...nothing too serious.

 
gump said:
According to Staples, the total of the admitted violations comes to about $28k...cash handouts, rental cars, etc.. He thinks it'll lead to some scholly reductions, a coach firing or two, a possible suspension of Freeze...nothing too serious.
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They are self imposing 11 scholarship reductions over 4 years and paying around $150,000 in fines.  Yeah, right.  It also appears that most of this occured under Freeze, and this doesn't even include the Tunsil stuff.  

The staff and/or boosters were making cash payouts, fixing ACT scores providing cars and living accommodations AND they lied to the NCAA about it.  If that's not lack of institutional control, I don't know what is.  I think they are fixing to get blown back into the stone age.

 
My friend who used to be an associate AD in the SEC said the only team that cheated more than auburn was ole miss. They are going to get crushed. 

 
psychobillies said:
They are self imposing 11 scholarship reductions over 4 years and paying around $150,000 in fines.  Yeah, right.  It also appears that most of this occured under Freeze, and this doesn't even include the Tunsil stuff.  

The staff and/or boosters were making cash payouts, fixing ACT scores providing cars and living accommodations AND they lied to the NCAA about it.  If that's not lack of institutional control, I don't know what is.  I think they are fixing to get blown back into the stone age.
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Yea...the more I read about the ACT tampering, the worse it appears and the more systematic it is.

 
I like how the women's ball is out of post season play, but the football team where most of the type 1 violations happened are free to carry on as usual.

 
Steve Robertson, the MSU media guy who initially reported this...is saying today that this is the 1st of 2 shoes to drop.  And that the 2nd will be big and upsetting to Ole Miss fans.

I'd guess more to come on academic issues.  The Tunsil stuff is just more icing on the cake.

 
This is way, way worse than the Reggie Bush stuff, and they have made the restrictions much tighter and more punitive since then.  

AND, they beat Bama twice.   Buh bye Ole Miss.

 
Don't Noonan said:
Let's be honest, Lockie was the worst QB in college football last year.  Both Prukop and Jonsen looked good in the spring game.  Lockie didn't even take a snap at qb.  He was a back up receiver.  I think Jonsen as a redshirt freshman can be very good.  Prukop is getting very good reviews, not as good as Adams imo, but should be a Darron Thomas equivalent.   

Hoke changed the defense to a 4 3.  Players seem more comfortable and Hoke has said he will be more aggressive in blitzing.   How many times did Pellum only rush 3 last year which resulted in a 1st down on 3rd and long?  Oregon has very good athletes,  secondary should be a strength this year.  LB will be average, d line pretty good. 

I think Oregon beats Nebraska.   Washington is at home, way overrated, not worried at all.  Stanford at home, we beat them last year, should be good game.  USC is overhyped as usual, but at USC could be toughest game.  WSU will be a battle but should win.

I think Oregon wins the PAC this year.
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No way...no madre EFFING way Mike Riley beats Oregon. Anywhere.

 
gump said:
According to Staples, the total of the admitted violations comes to about $28k...cash handouts, rental cars, etc.. He thinks it'll lead to some scholly reductions, a coach firing or two, a possible suspension of Freeze...nothing too serious.
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Only $28K for all those players?  No wonder these guys feel undervalued, Ole Miss got a bargain. 

 
Rosen had some very good games early last year as a true frosh but it I seem to remember him cooling off quite a bit as the season went on.  Still, he is a good one and you should be exited about him.  PAC 12 wide open this year so it should be very entertaining. 

 
Sounds like Baylor just lost their prized QB recruit Mond.  Many others that signed LOI's last year are trying to bail.  For a program that came out of nowhere this scandal might drop them back to irrelevance. 

 
On top of the academic fraud and Pay for play going on at Ole Miss, rumors of point shaving are picking up some steam.  Supposed Bo Wallace threw the Peach Bowl against TCU a few years ago. 

This Incarcerated Bob guy appears to be some sort of bookie...but he's been right about Tunsil and his Western Union payments since as far back as 2013. 

Might be something to it. 

http://ibnsportswrap.com/article.php?id=861

 
So, did I miss something?  Are there some Bama guys that will be suspended this season for failed drug tests during the NCG?  Here's the quote from Saban:

"So just because you got into the championship and the playoff last year your guys got tested so those guys are all getting suspended next year. Aight, but how many other guys played in bowl games? It's not the same standard for everybody."

Link

If so, anybody know who it is?

 
jb1020 said:
On top of the academic fraud and Pay for play going on at Ole Miss, rumors of point shaving are picking up some steam.  Supposed Bo Wallace threw the Peach Bowl against TCU a few years ago. 

This Incarcerated Bob guy appears to be some sort of bookie...but he's been right about Tunsil and his Western Union payments since as far back as 2013. 

Might be something to it. 

http://ibnsportswrap.com/article.php?id=861
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If it wasn't Ole Miss, I'd start to feel sorry for them.  

 
jb1020 said:
They've been so brazen about all this for the past 3 years.  They get whats coming to them.  Its going to be pretty bad. 
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The Ole Miss guys I know are in complete denial too.  I joke around in here about this stemming from beating Bama twice, but some of them truly believe that.  Makes the LSU conspiracy guys look sane in comparison.   :tinfoilhat:  

 
whoknew said:
Coach Harbaugh  @CoachJim4UM
"Amazing" to me- Alabama broke NCAA rules & now their HC is lecturing us on the possibility of rules being broken at camps. Truly "amazing."
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Saban, however, doesn’t seem to care much for Harbaugh’s opinion.

“That’s his business. I don’t really care what he thinks or tweet,” Saban told ESPN on Wednesday. “I say what I think is best for college football and say what I think is best for the players and the kids. As I said (Tuesday), it’s not about him or anybody else.”

:lmao:

 
psychobillies said:
The Ole Miss guys I know are in complete denial too.  I joke around in here about this stemming from beating Bama twice, but some of them truly believe that.  Makes the LSU conspiracy guys look sane in comparison.   :tinfoilhat:  
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Complete Denial is an understatement.   The really bad ones around here think its an attack on Freezes Christianity. 

 
jb1020 said:
Complete Denial is an understatement.   The really bad ones around here think its an attack on Freezes Christianity. 
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:lmao:

Again, this is a school that rioted and killed people over letting a black student enroll.  In 1962.  100 years after the Emancipation Proclamation.  And they have the audacity to bring up an attack on a man's Christianity?  Neat school.
 

 
Tony Barnhart ‏@MrCFB

Miss. State signee Jeffery Simmons has been admitted "under conditions." He will sit out the first game vs. S. Alabama plus counseling.
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This is the 5* recruit that was caught on video beating a woman. 

 
BOOMER!


Oklahoma QB Baker Mayfield gains additional year of eligibility


IRVING, Texas — Joe Castiglione talked Wednesday about not giving up on a Big 12 rule change that would grant Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield an additional year of eligibility.

There’s plenty of time for the issue to be revisited, the Sooners athletic director said.

It only took 24 hours.

Thursday at the Big 12 Spring Meetings, the league’s Faculty Athletic Representatives voted 7-3 to approve a change in the rules that makes Mayfield eligible to play at Oklahoma through the 2017 season.

“And y’all thought you were getting rid of me,” Mayfield tweeted just moments after Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby announced the change.

So Mayfield, barring an injury or other unforeseen circumstances, will be the Sooners quarterback when they open the 2017 season against UTEP and go on the road to Ohio State a week later.

Both Castiglione and Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops said after Wednesday’s 5-5 vote that the voting down of the rule was shortsighted and that it was a blow to the movement of greater concern for the welfare of athletes across all sports.

The proposal that passed differed from the one Oklahoma had submitted.

In the initial proposal, any non-recruited walk-on could transfer within the conference without the penalty of automatically losing a year of eligibility in addition to sitting out for the year.

The proposal that passed allows a walk-on who has not had a written offer of aid from his or her current school to transfer without the penalty.

“That may seem like a fine distinction but having a written offer of aid is a significant nuance to the previous proposal,” Bowlsby said. “It has to be offered by the end of the school year or the period of the award.”

Stoops said he appreciated the change of heart.

"I appreciate the Big 12 faculty athletics representatives spending more time studying the important issue of walk-on transfers and am pleased by the result of today's Big 12 vote — not just because it potentially impacts Baker Mayfield, but because it was the right thing to do," Stoops said in a statement.

Oklahoma president David Boren was also happy with the decision.

“This was a very good action by the Faculty Athletic Representatives. Also, requiring written evidence of an offer of scholarship, which in the case of Baker Mayfield there was no such offer, I think that strengthens it from an evidentiary point of view,” Boren said. “The conference does not want to get into a ‘he said, she said,’ sort of situation. I think that, procedurally, is very strong. I’m very pleased by their decision.

“It’s not only fair in this individual case, it’s fair to all student-athletes.”

Mayfield walked on at Texas Tech in 2013 and became the first walk-on quarterback to start his team’s season opener as a freshman.

He started seven games for the Red Raiders that season, throwing for 2,315 yards and 12 touchdowns.

But after the season, Mayfield decided to transfer and quickly wound up at Oklahoma.

He’d grown up a Sooners fan and despite OU having just won the Sugar Bowl with an MVP performance from young quarterback Trevor Knight, decided to join Oklahoma.

The battle over the transfer with first Texas Tech and then the Big 12 started immediately.

Tech initially refused to release Mayfield, making him unable to receive a scholarship shortly after his arrival on campus.

The school relented on that shortly, but Tech still objected to the waiver, which not only would have made Mayfield not lose the year of eligibility but immediately eligible in 2014.

Oklahoma requested a waiver from the faculty reps last May, but the group voted to deny the waiver.

Each conference school has one representative in the group.

The breakdown of Thursday’s vote — and Wednesday’s — was unavailable.

After sitting out the 2014 season, Mayfield beat out Knight and Cody Thomas for the starting job and promptly led the Sooners to the College Football Playoff.

He threw for 3,700 yards and 36 touchdowns with just seven interceptions and ran for 405 yards and seven scores.

He was named the Sporting News’ Player of the Year and finished fourth in Heisman Trophy voting.

http://newsok.com/article/5501862

 
RUSF18 said:
This is the 5* recruit that was caught on video beating a woman. 
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Yeah, this was a terrible situation.  I would have been completely fine with him getting the boot, but you'd be kidding yourself if you didn't think there would be 13 other SEC schools lined up to take him. 

Not to condone it, but its slightly different than one of these domestic violence issues that have all of a sudden become the hot takes in the sporting world.  He didn't beat up his GF and punch a girl in a bar or something.  His cousin got jumped and he jumped in.  Completely stupid and technically violence against women, but to compare it to Greg Hardy or Ray Rice like the media is doing is a bit harsh.  He was charged with Simple Assault and if you want to go by that definition then there are dozens, if not 100+ kids in college sports playing with a simple assault charge.

I wish we had suspended him 4 or 6 games...but honestly it wouldn't have mattered.  The media backlash would have been the same had we suspended him the entire season. 

 
Nah sorry. You suspend that kid for 6-9 games and people aren't complaining. A few may, but the story of rehabbing the kid and making him a better person can at least be sold. A one game suspension against Alabama Tech is a giant #### you to the whole system. 

 
Capella said:
Nah sorry. You suspend that kid for 6-9 games and people aren't complaining. A few may, but the story of rehabbing the kid and making him a better person can at least be sold. A one game suspension against Alabama Tech is a giant #### you to the whole system. 
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I said I wish we had suspended him 4-6 games at least, but I disagree.  The media would have had the same reaction. 

 
Apologies if this has been asked and answered already, but which school is the favorite to renounce its integrity entirely and hire Briles? I'll accept a conference as an answer, too.

 
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