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*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (1 Viewer)
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pollardsvision
Footballguy
I'm kidding. I don't know a damn thing about any of these teams. Except the future National Champs currently leading in Charlotte, NC.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
Clemson imploding
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Clemson - 1 loss to a top 6 team (where UNC will be if they win). Two top ten wins.
Stanford - 2 losses to good but not top ten teams. One top ten win.
UNC - 1 bad loss. Bad schedule. One top ten win.
Clemson has the better resume if they look at the whole season. But I agree the committee probably won't do that.
Capella
Footballguy
The committee has said they don't focus on recency bias. Clemson may be docked for not winning their conference, but two top-10 wins is better than what anybody else has.
sporthenry
Footballguy
UNC targeted his own player.
shader
Footballguy
You just can't take the loser of the ACC championship game over the winner because of scheduling semantics, IMO. Championships are supposed to be much more important, plus the whole head-to-head thing.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Conference championship means a lot IMO, if UNC wins it's them or Stanford IMO. Clemson has been #1 pretty much all year, UNC deserves to be in if they win this game IMO. Their SOS is going to be better than tOSU and Stanford has two losses. 
The General
Footballguy
Doink
shader
Footballguy
Maybe you are right. But I don't like where we are at in this thing if North Carolina beats Clemson, wins the championship, and Clemson goes to the playoffs despite both having one loss.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I understand the logic but it's hard for me to completely ignore h2h and put them in over UNC - I don't see how you do that. If UNC had a 2nd loss then I would agree.
Jayded
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Aaron Rodgers thinks that's a facemask.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
UNC secondary having a great game. Watson receivers not getting open.
Capella
Footballguy
So it's ok that UNC got beat comfortably by a 9-loss USC team? That doesn't make any sense either.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Player safety is important but these targeting calls are somewhat ridiculous. GT's best defender was ejected against UNC with them leading 21-0. It was the correct call but not something that was worthy of ejection IMO. I still think they would have won that game if he was ejected.
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Capella
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
Clemson would have a significantly better resume than UNC though. Not the same thing.Yeah it is, last year's National Champion says as much.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
But UNC would have beat them and they have a conference championship.Clemson would have a significantly better resume than UNC though. Not the same thing.Yeah it is, last year's National Champion says as much.
No reason to even have an ACCCG if Clemson lost this game and got in.
ffldrew
Footballguy
The reason we got in this stupid mess long ago to begin with was Nebraska making the NC game with Miami after getting smoked by CU and not playing in Big 12 championship game yet still getting into the game. They can't go back to those situations again IMOConference championship means a lot IMO, if UNC wins it's them or Stanford IMO. Clemson has been #1 pretty much all year, UNC deserves to be in if they win this game IMO. Their SOS is going to be better than tOSU and Stanford has two losses.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Dabo gonna hurt someone.
And Gallman scored on that catch when he reached the ball across I thought.
And Gallman scored on that catch when he reached the ball across I thought.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
100 mistakes this half and Clemson still has the lead.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Yeah - they might as well just crown the regular season leader the champ, right DD.But UNC would have beat them and they have a conference championship.Clemson would have a significantly better resume than UNC though. Not the same thing.Yeah it is, last year's National Champion says as much.
No reason to even have an ACCCG if Clemson lost this game and got in.
Jayded
Footballguy
The committee is full of it on the recency bias, but I suspect the conference title would rule. That keeps them from having to make some tough decisions that they otherwise be forced to make.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
LOL. Dabo still pissed off at the punter
Jayded
Footballguy
At first I thought it was one hideous Bama fan and then realized who it was. Apparently junior is a GA at Bama.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Cappy - I don't see that Clemson's resume is vastly superior. The theoretical neutral site win over Clemson trump Clemson's home win over ND by a decent amount. You may talk about the respective SC games but SC was a shell of what they were in that first game and their coach had quit on them and Clemson still managed to let them hang in the game. The FSU victory is the only thing Clemson could really point to and UNC could just point to the trophy and the h2h win. It would be somewhat of a sham if Clemson gets in in that scenario IMO.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I agree with you guys but the committee can't preach taking the 4 best teams and not take Clemson's resume as a whole. And Ohio St shouldn't be anywhere near the top 4 with no conference championship, no division championship, no great wins, one good win, and several mediocre games against bad teams.But UNC would have beat them and they have a conference championship.Clemson would have a significantly better resume than UNC though. Not the same thing.Yeah it is, last year's National Champion says as much.
No reason to even have an ACCCG if Clemson lost this game and got in.
Wouldn't the committee have had UNC higher than #10 if they felt they deserved to jump with a win tonight?
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Dabo made it very clear that the punter essentially went rogue - amazing and unbelievable - what in the hell was he thinking?
Capella
Footballguy
There's multiple ways of looking at it. I think Clemson's resume is quite superior to UNC's even if they lose. The committee clearly has no use for UNC, they had them 10th this week.
I was watching the Iowa/MSU game when this occurred. What happened? Did this punter do a fake or something?
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Last year the committee had TCU #3 this time of the year. TCU won 55-3 and dropped to #6. Ohio State moved up when they won the Big Ten Championship game and had their loss to Va. Tech overlooked.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
If there were a scenario that could get OSU in, it's kind of setting up for it right now. First, I don't think OSU should get in but if UNC wins and it's perceived that they only won because Clemson imploded and Stanford loses then maybe the committee says "hey, let's put the defending champs in". Again, I don't think they should but if anything could play out to do it then it would be what's happening so far.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Yeah it was 4th and 15. And the punter took off running on a fake that clearly wasn't called by the coaches. Didn't get anywhere close to the first down. Carolina scored right after that.
Punter would have had the first down if his teammates knew he was going to fake it. They could have easily blocked the two guys on that side.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I buy the UNC over Clemson argument because the H2H and conference title. But no way does Ohio State have a better resume than Clemson.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
4th and 15 and the punter faked it because he thought he could make a 1st down. The rest of the punt team was running down to cover the kick. Possibly an even dumber decision than what the MSU punter did against UM.
