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*** Official 2017 Atlantic Hurricane Season Thread *** (3 Viewers)

SoBeDad said:
"Better building codes after Andrew helped during hurricane Charlie: In Charlotte County, nearly 30 percent of the surveyed homes built under the new code that faced winds up to 150 mph in Hurricane Charley had no shingle damage, the study showed. Meanwhile, the study found that every surveyed home built under older code experienced at least some shingle loss."

My sister's house in south Miami-Dade suffered major damage during Andrew. The problems were roof tiles anchored with mortar, roof paper without proper and enough nails, garage door not protected, front door not protected. Oriented Strand Board (OSB) was deemed by her insurance company to be inferior to plywood and a contributor to her roof damage. She lived in a trailer next to her house for over 6 months during the rebuilding. She had a small deductible and the adjusters were very generous. She even put in a pool with the insurance money. Now, most people have large deductibles and the adjusters will be less charitable.
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you sure about OSB? Always heard it was a better product than ply.  Though not sure about it's strength.

 
The Ref said:
The ref family made a choice.  We staying.
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I have loved ones in the keys, and they drove all night starting last night and only got to space coast area this afternoon.  They said I95 was a mess.  Empty gas stations and people getting in wrecks all over.  I understand if people want to stay, because how the heck do you evacuate 5.5 million people all going a single direction?  I wish you and The Ref family the best.  Let's all hope this beast decides to hang a right go OTS where it belongs.

 
AAABatteries said:
Eye just missing north of PR - am I to understand that is bad news for Florida as it won't weaken it any before it hits?
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I heard something similar in the coverage earlier today.  I believe they said that If Irma hit PR highlands, it would weaken the storm to something closer to a cat 2. If not, and it kept its track, it would build and hit as a strong cat 4.

Stay safe, and make careful choices, Florida FBGs.

 
I think someone posted this in here earlier (or maybe I saw it on FB, can't recall now), but I couldn't find it to quote. I didn't watch it all the way through earlier. At about the 2:20 mark, they make it into the eye and you can see just how massive this storm is. And it's eerily quiet. 

flying into the eye of Irma

 
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Nathan R. Jessep said:
I think someone posted this in here earlier (or maybe I saw it on FB, can't recall now), but I couldn't find it to quote. I didn't watch it all the way through earlier. At about the 2:20 mark, they make it into the eye and you can see just how massive this storm is. And it's eerily quiet. 

flying into the eye of Irma
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Based on satellite data, Hurricane Irma's eye is roughly the size of metropolitan Detroit, at about 1,300 square miles (3,400 square km), the Detroit Free Press reported.
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culdeus said:
you sure about OSB? Always heard it was a better product than ply.  Though not sure about it's strength.
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The problem is when it gets wet, according to this article. But, according to the article, a bigger problem was shoddy workmanship on roofs.

 
Osaurus said:
I-75 looking pretty bad through Tampa today.
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Yeah, that's one the reasons I'm grappling with what to do with son at USF. He is ready to drive to Jacksonville tomorrow then evac with us to Pensacola if needed.

Current plan is to check 5am NHC tomorrow and possibly tell him to stay put and ride it out.

 
Dedfin said:
I have loved ones in the keys, and they drove all night starting last night and only got to space coast area this afternoon.  They said I95 was a mess.  Empty gas stations and people getting in wrecks all over.  I understand if people want to stay, because how the heck do you evacuate 5.5 million people all going a single direction?  I wish you and The Ref family the best.  Let's all hope this beast decides to hang a right go OTS where it belongs.
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The smart ones are heading SW towards the panhandle up 98 or 27 or the turnpike. If you are going up I 95, you've lost your mind. That's its path.

 
lod001 said:
The smart ones are heading SW towards the panhandle up 98 or 27 or the turnpike. If you are going up I 95, you've lost your mind. That's its path.
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Agreed, but on normal days that I've driven the turnpike I feel like I've lost my mind.

 
lod001 said:
Most comments say it's not San Juan.
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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.  San Juan is.on the weak side and away from the eye last I saw.  The winds will be much weaker there.  The winds in that Video had to be around 100mph.

 
JaxBill said:
Yeah, that's one the reasons I'm grappling with what to do with son at USF. He is ready to drive to Jacksonville tomorrow then evac with us to Pensacola if needed.

Current plan is to check 5am NHC tomorrow and possibly tell him to stay put and ride it out.
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Lots of factors, but at least Orlando is in one of the highest elevations of the state.

 
Dedfin said:
I have loved ones in the keys, and they drove all night starting last night and only got to space coast area this afternoon.  They said I95 was a mess.  Empty gas stations and people getting in wrecks all over.  I understand if people want to stay, because how the heck do you evacuate 5.5 million people all going a single direction?  I wish you and The Ref family the best.  Let's all hope this beast decides to hang a right go OTS where it belongs.
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I work in a Miami Beach hospital and there is panic among many of my co-workers who plan to drive north. Many are not sure where to go. A few made hotel accommodations days ago, but most have no specific place to go. They could run out of gas on I-95, I-75 or the turnpike, or have to wait in line for hours to get gas. They might not find a hotel with availability. Or they could drive into the worst of the storm.  I'm talking about people who live 5 or more miles inland and have CBS houses with storm shutters. I live in a dorm type housing where i work on Miami Beach, with new hurricane impact windows on the second floor. Most of the residents, including myself, plan to stay. The 2nd floor is about 15 feet above the ground, perhaps 19 feet above Biscayne Bay.  

 
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SoBeDad said:
I work in a Miami Beach hospital and there is panic among many of my co-workers who plan to drive north. Many are not sure where to go. A few made hotel accommodations days ago, but most have no specific place to go. They could run out of gas on I-95, I-75 or the turnpike, or have to wait in line for hours to get gas. They might not find a hotel. Or they could drive into the worst of the storm.  I'm talking about people who live 5 or more miles inland and have CBS houses with storm shutters. I live in a dorm type housing where i work on Miami Beach, with new hurricane impact windows on the second floor. Most of the residents, including myself, plan to stay.   
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Godspeed.  I hope everyone who is in S FLA stays in touch please!

 
Seatown Mofos said:
I think the camera is facing west, so the winds are coming from the north?
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Must be. The Hilton is on the north east part of San Juan closest now to the eye wall. Around 50 miles SW of it and that is all they are getting. Google Earth Pro has the hurricane on it.

 
Soooo glad I don't work for Polk Co. any more. I'd be stuck in a bunker for the next week. Moved most of my stuff in from the lanai.  Been filling water bottles and just getting the house ready for something worse than I'm hoping for.  If I have to leave, I won't think twice about it.  Be safe out there fellow FL FBGs.   

 
RECON mission 15 OBS 15:

Irma is getting there; sub 910mb.

We will see if it will get to the vortex message.

(from that cool weathernerd thread Culdy or someone posted).

 
Eyewall replacement in progress. Sort of forked the last flights. 

Air force apparently can mid air refuel and is going back in.  Balls of steel. 

 
SoBeDad said:
I work in a Miami Beach hospital and there is panic among many of my co-workers who plan to drive north. Many are not sure where to go. A few made hotel accommodations days ago, but most have no specific place to go. They could run out of gas on I-95, I-75 or the turnpike, or have to wait in line for hours to get gas. They might not find a hotel with availability. Or they could drive into the worst of the storm.  I'm talking about people who live 5 or more miles inland and have CBS houses with storm shutters. I live in a dorm type housing where i work on Miami Beach, with new hurricane impact windows on the second floor. Most of the residents, including myself, plan to stay. The 2nd floor is about 15 feet above the ground, perhaps 19 feet above Biscayne Bay.  
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Are you in the medical side (nurse, etc.) or administration, etc? Hospital probably a pretty safe place I imagine. Praying all goes well for you!

 
I'm gonna annoy the #### out of people again but it's final decision time.

What are the odds a 10 pm flight from Boston to Richmond VA on Monday evening is a go?  Obviously there aren't flood concerns at that point, but winds, and being able to have ZERO time to prep my house, supplies or worst case, evacuate since I'll be across the country?

ETA I see the NOAA cone around SC at 2 PM Monday, this thing is huge though, meaning the outer bands could almost certainly be affecting all the way up to DC by midnight

 
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John Bender said:
I'm gonna annoy the #### out of people again but it's final decision time.

What are the odds a 10 pm flight from Boston to Richmond VA on Monday evening is a go?  Obviously there aren't flood concerns at that point, but winds, and being able to have ZERO time to prep my house, supplies or worst case, evacuate since I'll be across the country?

ETA I see the NOAA cone around SC at 2 PM Monday, this thing is huge though, meaning the outer bands could almost certainly be affecting all the way up to DC by midnight
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From WxTrack on Facebook, who I believe is based in Eastern NC/Southeastern VA...  Track B goes directly over Richmond.  C is the coast.  A is if goes through extreme western NC.  Sounds like you won't know for sure for another two days.

Eastern NC and Southeast VA possible tracks and Impacts:

A. Rain/Breezy, an isolated tornado POSSIBLE. Best of 3 options - non-event. 

B. Heavy Rain/High Winds/Tidal Flooding, Hurricane conditions possible, Isolated tornadoes.

C. You don't want to know . . .

At this range all are equally possible, Friday we will know.

 
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From WxTrack on Facebook, who I believe is based in Eastern NC/Southeastern VA...  Track B goes directly over Richmond.  C is the coast.  A is if goes through extreme western NC.  Sounds like you won't know for sure for another two days.

Eastern NC and Southeast VA possible tracks and Impacts:

A. Rain/Breezy, an isolated tornado POSSIBLE. Best of 3 options - non-event. 

B. Heavy Rain/High Winds/Tidal Flooding, Hurricane conditions possible, Isolated tornadoes.

C. You don't want to know . . .

At this range all are equally possible, Friday we will know.
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Thanks man.  My flight out leaves at 6 AM tomorrow morning.  It's kinda nerve-wracking as far as decisions go.  I will have no one home to be with my dog if I don't get back home Monday or Tuesday.  The big issue is, if I don't get home Monday or Tuesday, I'm definitely not getting home Wednesday from Boston to VA.  So it's a really crappy spot to be in right now.

 
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I think you are fine.  Can't you put your dig in one if those day cares?

 
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Ramblin Wreck said:
From WxTrack on Facebook, who I believe is based in Eastern NC/Southeastern VA...  Track B goes directly over Richmond.  C is the coast.  A is if goes through extreme western NC.  Sounds like you won't know for sure for another two days.

Eastern NC and Southeast VA possible tracks and Impacts:

A. Rain/Breezy, an isolated tornado POSSIBLE. Best of 3 options - non-event. 

B. Heavy Rain/High Winds/Tidal Flooding, Hurricane conditions possible, Isolated tornadoes.

C. You don't want to know . . .

At this range all are equally possible, Friday we will know.
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Is this because Richmond would be East of what's left and catch the worst of it? I'm a couple hours East on the coast in area that floods hoping it stays West. 

More importantly hope you guys in FL get through OK ? 

 
I'm in Dade also. If we choose to go, we'll decide tomorrow or early Friday morning (like 1a or 2a) to hopefully deal with smaller crowds on the roads. I have a reservation in Orlando for Friday night and then who knows after that. We will probably end up heading west to Naples and then north to Orlando instead of heading up I-75. In Waze I trust.

 
GoBirds said:
Is this because Richmond would be East of what's left and catch the worst of it? I'm a couple hours East on the coast in area that floods hoping it stays West. 

More importantly hope you guys in FL get through OK ? 
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BTW - this x 100. Much more important than my stupid vacation.  

 
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