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***Official*** 2018 World Cup thread (and Drinking Guide) (1 Viewer)

BassNBrew said:
Thanks.

This is what I was really curious about (bolded).  So a top national team is basically the same as a club team in the 5-15 range (and Liverpool) in the top leagues?
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:yawn:   

Yes, something like Germany vs Everton would be relatively close. Germany would have talent advantage but Everton has team stability advantage. I could see someone arguing that either way. 

 
We get it, announcer, Belgium is 3rd in the world and are still in a 0-0 game.  I caught it the 13th time you said it.

 
Embarrassing how much this Belgium team is flopping/diving. They should worry less about that and more on getting some shots on goal.

 
Belgium always looks like a group of strangers playing.  I'm also surprised KDB doesn't play closer to the goal.  I think he'd be far more effective up there.

 
The Gator said:
Martinez has neutered this team. Way to go guy 
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Even the US (which was an obvious dumpster fire) waxed this Panama side in the first half by just putting high pressure on them.  I have no idea why Belgium are dropping back.  They wasted at least 10 minutes in that half letting Panama play in their end.

 
gianmarco said:
Others who know more can chime in, but no, I don't think that's the case. The elite club teams have more talent top to bottom AND play together. The only exception might be a country like Spain where their national team is comprised of most of the players from their top 3 domestic club teams (Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico) who already play together.

But I would say rankings likely:

--Elite club teams (RM, Barcelona, Bayern, PSG, Juventus, a handful of EPL teams) 

(big gap)

--Tier A countries

--Most other club teams in major leagues (Spain, England, Italy, France, Germany)

(decent gap)

--Tier B and below countries
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I think the best countries are closer to the elite clubs than you list here.  They have edge, but Everton vs Germany is a bridge too far IMO

 
The Gator said:
Martinez has neutered this team. Way to go guy 
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One reason why this is a surprise is that it appeared to be the opposite.  I had huge doubts about the defense but the offense was scoring tons of goals in qualifying (and not just against Gibraltar and crap).  

I expected Belgium to crap the bed when they played a team that could actually hurt them, but I didn't expect this. 

 
Slapdash said:
I think the best countries are closer to the elite clubs than you list here.  They have edge, but Everton vs Germany is a bridge too far IMO
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I lean much closer to the best countries being competitive with the best clubs than most do, but I always give myself the caveat that the international teams are allowed to play together for a year in a club setup.

 
Interesting that Witsel and Carrasco still make the starting XI despite opting to chase the money in China. Usually that's a kiss of death for a soccer players international career.

 
NewlyRetired said:
I lean much closer to the best countries being competitive with the best clubs than most do, but I always give myself the caveat that the international teams are allowed to play together for a year in a club setup.
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I agree with that.  I think a few of these teams could be as good, if they played together for a long time. 

 
Native said:
Interesting that Witsel and Carrasco still make the starting XI despite opting to chase the money in China. Usually that's a kiss of death for a soccer players international career.
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I think that's less of an issue w/ Belgium than it is for European nations with stronger domestic leagues.  There's only one domestically based player in the Belgian squad.

 
NewlyRetired said:
I lean much closer to the best countries being competitive with the best clubs than most do, but I always give myself the caveat that the international teams are allowed to play together for a year in a club setup.
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Well, yeah. But the point was that they don't play together and I think that matters. I'd be curious what others think about Everton playing this current Germany team right now without extended time together.

 
shader said:
I agree with that.  I think a few of these teams could be as good, if they played together for a long time. 
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Totally agree. Top countries could already go head to head... But with every day practice like clubs? Ithink it would be hard to beat a Spain, Germany, Brazil, France, Argentina FC.

 
El Floppo said:
Totally agree. Top countries could already go head to head... But with every day practice like clubs? Ithink it would be hard to beat a Spain, Germany, Brazil, France, Argentina FC.
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The national teams have had almost a month together to practice in advance of the World Cup.  Their cohesiveness is at a higher level now than the typical two games in an international break including travel time.

 
Eephus said:
The national teams have had almost a month together to practice in advance of the World Cup.  Their cohesiveness is at a higher level now than the typical two games in an international break including travel time.
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So you're saying they're like a preseason club team.

 
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