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***Official 2020 Michigan Football*** (1 Viewer)

Beating a Top 10 team when playing that poorly is a good sign.  Now to see how they play in White uniforms.....  Hopefully this isn't another "great" defense that gets killed by OSU because they haven't played a competent offense all year.

 
Beating a Top 10 team when playing that poorly is a good sign.  Now to see how they play in White uniforms.....  Hopefully this isn't another "great" defense that gets killed by OSU because they haven't played a competent offense all year.
I wonder about this, but this defense is pretty fast and they are pretty sound in their tackling.  They had a few WTF moments in the Colorado game when it came to tackling, but other than that, they seem pretty sounds.  Speed and fundamentals seem to bite them in the ### when playing OSU.

 
Incoming Freshman Chris Evans went to the local high school. It was a lot of fun watching him starting as a Sophomore and being a key player on the Class 6A State Champs as a Junior. Great speed (he also won several state championships in track and field) he broke off a lot of long TD runs as an RB and a WR.

From what I saw and have heard about Chris he's a good kid too.

Since Purdue's football program sucks right now I may be a Michigan fan for the next 4 years.
Nice 44 yard run to the 1 there by Chris. Nobody would have touched him in high school....but he's not in high school anymore:).

 
I felt sick doing it, but I couldn't change the channel until they finally got a first down. Once they finally got one with 9 minutes left in the game Rutgers fans started hugging everyone. Proud of that program. They've come a long way...

 
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First and foremost let's not forget...that was Rutgers.

While I don't think coach harbaugh deliberately ran the score up and continued to smother them on defense, I think he maybe turned his back a bit because Chris ash is a #####. 

I thought Karan Higdon ran with the most urgency and forward lean, kid needs more work. I think we clearly saw why JOK didn't win the starting job....he is one read and bail.

I am cautiously optimistic about the rest of the season. I think when they play MSU in a couple weeks it could get ugly and I do think Jim will score until it's all over. Mark D better get his team playing like they are used to in EL. 

Jabrill Peppers is going to go pro this offseason but it has been an absolute treat watching him play football for 1.5 years and I will follow his pro career as closely as I ever have for a former UM player. Seems like a decent kid too which helps.

 
Now everybody will be blowing off the State game, but every fiber of my being tells me that game is going to be tight and it wouldn't surprise me at all if UM somehow loses it.

As fantastic as the team looks, Speight hasn't impressed me at all yet. Since he hasn't been asked to do much to this point, I'm very uneasy about what will happen when he has to win a game with his arm.

 
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Apple Juice said:
Now everybody will be blowing off the State game, but every fiber of my being tells me that game is going to be tight and it wouldn't surprise me at all if UM somehow loses it.

As fantastic as the team looks, Speight hasn't impressed me at all yet. Since he hasn't been asked to do much to this point, I'm very uneasy about what will happen when he has to win a game with his arm.
The U-M game is always a huge game for MSU, and I can guarantee State will play its best game of the year and fight to the bitter end...

Which means they'll lose by 30 instead of 60. The two teams aren't even in the same universe this year and no amount of rivalry excitement can bridge that gap.

 
The U-M game is always a huge game for MSU, and I can guarantee State will play its best game of the year and fight to the bitter end...

Which means they'll lose by 30 instead of 60. The two teams aren't even in the same universe this year and no amount of rivalry excitement can bridge that gap.
Nice attempt at the ole reverse jinx.   

 
Apple Juice said:
Now everybody will be blowing off the State game, but every fiber of my being tells me that game is going to be tight and it wouldn't surprise me at all if UM somehow loses it.

As fantastic as the team looks, Speight hasn't impressed me at all yet. Since he hasn't been asked to do much to this point, I'm very uneasy about what will happen when he has to win a game with his arm.
Like the Wisconsin game?

 
Love JH, obviously he ran the score up, NJ is a hotbed for recruits and they're certainly plucking some of the states top talent.

If a kid is considering Rutgers, JH will prob leave the tape of this one behind after a visit.

 
Well crap I settled in to watch Evans and he got his bell rung and he was out of the game after the first time he touched the ball.

I've stayed with the game to see how the other Indianapolis kid Jeff George Jr does.

 
Well crap I settled in to watch Evans and he got his bell rung and he was out of the game after the first time he touched the ball.

I've stayed with the game to see how the other Indianapolis kid Jeff George Jr does.
I missed the play.  Just saw him walking down the tunnel.  Is it a concussion?  

 
I missed the play.  Just saw him walking down the tunnel.  Is it a concussion?  
I found this from the Detroit Free Press:

“Chris is doing good,” Harbaugh said. “I saw him at halftime. He was doing well. He got hit. He went out there for a little bit, and some of the experts say that’s a good thing when that happens. The brain resets — this is what I’m hearing from the doctors. He seemed to be in a good place relatively quickly by halftime.”

 
I missed the play.  Just saw him walking down the tunnel.  Is it a concussion?  
I found this from the Detroit Free Press:

“Chris is doing good,” Harbaugh said. “I saw him at halftime. He was doing well. He got hit. He went out there for a little bit, and some of the experts say that’s a good thing when that happens. The brain resets — this is what I’m hearing from the doctors. He seemed to be in a good place relatively quickly by halftime.”
Yeah....they took him back during the game to run through concussion protocol and he passed.  No need to bring him back in a game like that.  Short day :thumbup:  

 
A ton of football remains, but this is probably the most dominate Michigan team I can remember.  I am sure they will lay an egg soon though.   

 
I have confidence in our very strong team.  But I worry a little that the remaining motivation for MSU and OSU, now, is to beat Michigan.  (Let 'em try.   :boxing: )
Maybe if PSU was OSU's 2nd loss.  But it wasn't, they still have plenty of motivation to win out and not to just look ahead to late November.

 
Mike from Accounting was draining 3's this weekend!

http://theozone.net/Ohio-State/Football/2016/News/Michigan-Monday-Maybe-Penn-State-Can-Be-a-Basketball-School

COLUMBUS — Well, what can you learn from something like this? Try analyzing Shaquille O'Neal posting up Mike from Accounting and see how much you can make of it.

Michigan had the honor of playing Penn State on Saturday and they took that honor and crammed it down the Nittany Lions' throats like the last bag of trash that you're trying to get to fit into your garbage can. The Michigan defense then placed their collective hands on the garbage lid and pushed down to the tune of a 49-10 win over Penn State.

Afterward, the Penn State board of trustees came out to check on the can to see if there was enough room for James Franklin, but there wasn't. Instead, they'll either have to wait until next week to throw him out, or just place him on the curb and maybe a school like Purdue will come by and pick him up.

Speaking of Franklin, I have seen some poorly-coached teams in my time — remember, I was doing this back during the Rich Rodriguez years as well, but this was an especially epic failure from Penn State in just about every facet of the game. The entire coaching staff had to work pretty damn hard to be this damn bad, and Michigan took advantage of the situation on every side of the ball.

Remember when Michigan should have never been on the field with Alabama a few years ago? Penn State was Michigan on Saturday and the Wolverines were Alabama. These are two completely different programs heading in much, much different directions. Heck, Penn State doesn't even have a direction, unless you consider "down the drain" a direction.

Everything about this game was a mismatch. I'd say Saquon Barkley deserves better, but he knew what he was getting into.

When Michigan Was On Offense

The Wolverines ran the ball 49 times for 326 yards (6.7 ypc), which was their highest rushing total since the opening game of the 2014 season when they went for 350 yards against Appalachian State. This was the second time that they hit the 300-yard mark on the ground in 2016. They didn't do it at all in 2015 and only once in 2014.

Penn State was playing without their three starting linebackers and then lost one to injury and one to a targeting ejection. At least I think that's all they lost. I apologize for not being exact on the number, but it's hard to keep track of all of the backups and walk-ons playing on Penn State's defense right now.

Running back De'Veon Smith had another very good game, leading the team with 107 yards rushing on 12 carries. He was at his best in this game, running hard and decisive, but he also showed a nice one-cut ability and got upfield quickly. He's never going to be a burner, but he can take advantage of a weakened defense just fine.

Overall, it was an incredibly effective committee of ball carriers. Karan Higdon went for 81 yards, Ty Isaac went for 74 yards, and Chris Evans went for 56 yards. It was the best this committee has ever looked.

This was the easily the most impressed I've been with Higdon, who previously seemed to me a little young to be a viable option while a game is still in doubt. Against Penn State, however, he ran hard and he ran confidently. There was no hesitation. He looked like a legit running back. But then all running backs should look like legit running backs against Penn State's depleted defense.

The offensive line moved Penn State's defense around like a pair of end tables and the Wolverines kept trying to find the proper feng shui. "Better here?" "No, let's try them over here." "Okay, you like them here?" "No, let's put them over here." They dominated in short-yardage situations as well. One of the Penn State defensive linemen probably still has a full-size, full-body tattoo of Ben Braden on them. The left guard mauled some poor dude on the Wolverines' first touchdown.

About the only negative I can think of when it comes to the running game is that right guard Kyle Kalis shouldn't be asked to pull or block in space. He's like a Blackberry — just not an effective mobile option.

It's not often that you get to see a game like this with a defense that is so overmatched that they were unsure of their every step. It was like watching a toddler trying to walk down the stairs for the very first time. And there was no railing to grab on to.

A draw play to Chris Evans ended up being wizardry against this defense. During the postgame handshake I was expecting Jim Harbaugh to pull a quarter out of James Franklin's ear.

We don't need to spend too much time on the passing game because it's always the same. It's solid, it features two very good wide receivers, one terrific tight end, and a quarterback who is mostly consistent but sometimes gets wonky with his accuracy.

Wilton Speight completed 21-of-34 passes for 189 yards and a touchdown. His long completion was just 25 yards, but it didn't matter. He was also pretty fleet of foot and kept plays alive better than he has all season long.

Overall, Michigan went 11-of-16 on third downs, and on two of those failed third downs they ended up picking up the first down on fourth down. They only needed to punt once and they probably didn't even need to punt then.

When Michigan Was On Defense

I can't take Penn State's offense. I had to watch it twice this weekend and now I have to write about it. If I had to do a Penn State Monday, I'd either quit or just write it throughout the week since it's the same old bucket of suck each week.

Literally every nuance of Penn State's offense plays into what Michigan does on defense, but no where was that more true than the asinine way the Nittany Lions run the ball with a delay action. Not only are they actually inviting the Michigan defensive line to tackle them for a loss, they're giving Michigan's linebackers time to get off of blocks.

This action is done to sort of tease the possibility of a read option, but they could never afford to really run quarterback Trace McSorley because James Franklin is such a great recruiter that they have no other viable options at the most important position in sports.

Penn State ran for 70 yards on 28 carries (2.5 ypc). Barkley rushed for 59 yards on 15 attempts, and one of those carries went for 33 yards. He never had a chance, and some of that was because of how they are taught to hand the ball off.

McSorley completed 16-of-27 passes for 121 yards and a touchdown, but he was constantly under pressure from the Michigan front four. The Wolverines sacked him six times. Some of those were McSorley's fault, but there were times when he had no shot to look at his receivers.

Linebacker Ben Gedeon led Michigan with 11 tackles, but the most impressive defender of the day was defensive tackle Maurice Hurst, who put up six tackles, four tackles for loss, and a sack. He was active all game long and Penn State didn't really understand how to block him. Or many of his teammates.

The best news for the Wolverines on the day was that cornerback Jourdan Lewis returned. The worst news of the day was that they may have lost cornerback Jeremy Clark to a torn ACL. Clark came off the bench in this game, but his presence will be missed because he allowed Lewis to move to the slot on passing downs. We'll have to see how they handle this situation moving forward.

I haven't talked much about him to this point, but starting cornerback Channing Stribling has been impressing me. Even with his two pass interference calls, he's been solid. The interference is just the way they are coached. They don't call it on Jourdan Lewis, so they make up for it by flagging Stribling and Clark.

Another area where the Penn State offense was just dumb was their repeated decisions to throw the football behind the line of scrimmage. Throwing the ball behind the line of scrimmage against guys like Jourdan Lewis and Jabrill Peppers is just poor planning. Or it would be if there was any planning involved.

Penn State almost never tried to find a positive matchup. They just kept flailing, hoping that one of their petty slaps would scratch Michigan's cornea or something.

The Michigan Special Teams

Jabrill Peppers should have had another punt return for a touchdown in this game but he couldn't keep his balance inside the PSU 10-yard line. Kicking to Peppers was just another example of Penn State's decision making.

There wasn't much else to talk about. Michigan didn't really punt and most of their kickoffs went for touchbacks. I guess the most surprising aspect of the special teams was that Michigan didn't block any punts.

What Does It All Mean

It doesn't mean much because what can you learn from a contest where only one participant is actually familiar with the game being played. Fortunately for Penn State, Michigan chose to keep the ball on the ground and win the surest way. Had they chosen to go another route, it would have just been too cruel.

It does mean that this game wasn't much of a tuneup for next week's game against Wisconsin. The Badgers will bring a much stiffer defense to town. Like Penn State, however, they will also bring an offense which is suited to being shut down by a team like the Wolverines.

Overall, this was an impressive win against a bad team and that's not something that this program did a lot of prior to Jim Harbaugh. Harbaugh will continue to get the most out of each of his players, but this is still a limited roster. They should be able to hide it pretty well until November, however.

 
https://soundcloud.com/tejinator/more-than-5

The singing is pretty awful.  So play this https://youtu.be/7tbqgM0N-C4 while you read.

A LONG LONG TIME AGO
I CAN STILL REMEMBER HOW
IN MID-OCTOBER THE SPARTANS WERE A JOKE
AND I KNEW THAT THE WOLVERINES WOULD WIN
KEEPING THEIR DOMINANCE IN MICHIGAN
AND, MAYBE, THE SPARTANS WOULD ALWAYS CHOKE

*****

BUT THEN LLOYD CARR WANTED TO RETIRE
AND WE FOUND RICHROD, THEN HOKE TO HIRE
THE WOLVERINES WOULD NOSEDIVE
AND SOMEHOW THE SPARTANS DID THRIVE

*****

I CAN’T REMEMBER IF I CRIED
WHEN BLAKE FUMBLED AND STATE SURVIVED
BUT SOMETHING TOUCHED ME DEEP INSIDE
THE DAY THE SPARTANS DIED

*****

SO
BYE, BYE TO YOUR POSTSEASON DRIVE
PUSHED YOUR LUCK, NOW YOU SUCK, AND YOUR TIME HAS ARRIVED
AND THEM GOOD OLE DAYS OF BEING RANKED AND ALIVE
IS NOW “NEED TO WIN MORE THAN 5”
“NEED TO WIN MORE THAN JUST 5”

*****

DID YOU THINK THE CRIMSON TIDE
STOLE ALL THE RECRUITS NATIONWIDE
AND WOULDN’T BEAT DANTONIO?
OH, DID YOU BELIEVE THAT THE SPARTY SHAM
WAS SUPPOSED TO CHALLENGE A REAL PROGRAM,
AND GET MORE POINTS THAN ZERO?

*****

WELL, I KNOW THAT MARK FELT DISRESPECT
WHILE HIS TEAM BECAME A USELESS WRECK
THEIR FANS, THEY STARTED TO BOO
EVEN LOSING TO THE STRUGGLING COUGS

*****

NO AMOUNT OF COUCHES CAN EXIST
TO SATISFY THAT BURNING ITCH
OF ALL THE SPARTY FANS WHO WERE PISSED
THE DAY THEIR SPARTANS DIED

*****

SO WE STARTED SINGIN’
BYE, BYE TO YOUR POSTSEASON DRIVE
PUSHED YOUR LUCK, NOW YOU SUCK, AND YOUR TIME HAS ARRIVED
AND THEM GOOD OLE DAYS OF BEING RANKED AND ALIVE
IS NOW “NEED TO WIN MORE THAN 5”
“NEED TO WIN MORE THAN JUST 5”

*****

NOW, FOR SOME TIME WE ALL HAVE KNOWN
SPARTY HAS SEATED THE MICHIGAN THRONE
BUT, THAT’S NOT HOW IT USED TO BE

*****

WHEN HART SAID THEY ARE JUST LITTLE BRO
HE REALLY TICKED OFF DANTONIO
AND SPARTY HAD A 8 YEAR WINNING SPREE

*****

OH, THE NATION WAS IMPRESSED, OF COURSE
SUPPOSED TO BE A BIG 10 FORCE
THEY WERE TEAM DESTINY
NOW ALMOST LAST IN THE EAST

*****

AND WHILE HARBAUGH HAS MUCH TO DO
LIKE DRINK WHOLE MILK AND BEAT OSU 
WE KNOW HE CAN MAKE ONE THING TRUE
ON OCTOBER TWENTY NINTH

*****

WE WERE SINGIN’
BYE, BYE TO YOUR POSTSEASON DRIVE
PUSHED YOUR LUCK, NOW YOU SUCK, AND YOUR TIME HAS ARRIVED
AND THEM GOOD OLE DAYS OF BEING RANKED AND ALIVE
IS NOW “NEED TO WIN MORE THAN 5”
“NEED TO WIN MORE THAN JUST 5”

 
Aubrey Solomon 5 * DT that decommited a few months back is going to take an official visit on 11/5.  Not holding out hope, but getting his family on campus is big.

 
They looked like a 25 point favorite in the first half, and like a Brady Hoke team in the 2nd half. 
Not even close.  A Brady Hoke team would of had no defensive stops.  It was amazing a Michigan football team could go a whole game without forcing a punt or getting s turnover an entire game.  

 
Not even close.  A Brady Hoke team would of had no defensive stops.  It was amazing a Michigan football team could go a whole game without forcing a punt or getting s turnover an entire game.  
They were terrible in the second half.  If you don't believe that, then you're a dumb homer. 

 
Were they playing the second/third string, particularly in the 4th qtr when MSU did their scoring?

Weird decision by state to go for 2.  Peppers.   :wub:

 

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