Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
My memory of Ronaldo is better than what I've seen from Mbappe, but I wasn't going to go there because I don't see Mbappe much and also I'm old now and susceptible to the ruinous work of nostalgia.
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***Official 2022 World Cup Thread*** (1 Viewer)
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
So Giroud has had a really good cup. It is scary to think that this was the replacement for the Ballon d'Or winner. The depth is insane ....
Desert_Power
Footballguy
They play different positions too. Ronaldo was a #9 and a killer.
The comparison that sticks out to me is more the other Ronaldo when he was initially at Manchester with the pace and confidence.
titusbramble
Footballguy
ICYMI, Senegal are athletic and organised as per Southgate
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Wegner lays out FIAF choices for how to organize 2026 with the 48 teams
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On Sunday, Wenger told a news conference for the FIFA Technical Study Group that three options were under consideration.
As well as the three-team option, another suggestion is that there would be 12 groups of four teams, with the best third-placed teams advancing with the top two. A third option is to split the World Cup into two separate halves of 24, each featuring six groups of four teams. The winner of each half would meet in the final.
"This is not decided," Wenger said. "but it will be 16 groups of three, 12 groups of four, or two sides of six groups of four -- like you organise two 24 teams.
"I will not be able to decide that, it will be decided by the FIFA [Council], and I think it will be done in the next year."
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On Sunday, Wenger told a news conference for the FIFA Technical Study Group that three options were under consideration.
As well as the three-team option, another suggestion is that there would be 12 groups of four teams, with the best third-placed teams advancing with the top two. A third option is to split the World Cup into two separate halves of 24, each featuring six groups of four teams. The winner of each half would meet in the final.
"This is not decided," Wenger said. "but it will be 16 groups of three, 12 groups of four, or two sides of six groups of four -- like you organise two 24 teams.
"I will not be able to decide that, it will be decided by the FIFA [Council], and I think it will be done in the next year."
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I am not sure I understand how this is any different from 12 groups of 4. .....
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Would love to see England lose
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Two separate halves is easier for me to post scenarios which is clearly what Wegner has in mind.
-QG
The Gator
Footballguy
at seeing Zidane pass to Ronaldo with Raul in support.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Some one was asking earlier about a study on PK's. I just saw this posted
www.bbc.com
England take note - this is how to score a penalty
BBC Sport and Opta analyse the 279 World Cup shootout penalties to see the best ways to score your kick.
www.bbc.com
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
If that happens I'm bringing back my Brian Clough avatar.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Did you miss Figo watching right next to them?
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
But on a more practical level it really would make it easier to plot out the schedule. It is a matter of combinatorics and the fact that teams that make the round of 32 can't be playing a team from their group in the first round of the knockout (and really shouldn't happen in the round of 16 either).
Anyway in a 6-group tournament with 4 3rd place teams you have 15 different possible combinations of teams advancing (e.g. ABCD, ABCE, ABCF etc up until CDEF). All the groups are separate so at the outset so all possibilities are equal - and FIFA has to plot out what group winners play what 3rd place teams in each case.
Anyway it gets much more complex if you do 12 groups with 8 3rd-place teams advancing. The number of 3rd place teams combinations leaps to 495. Now it's ABCDEFGH, ABCDEFGI, ABCDEFGH etc all the way up to EFGHIJKL. And there would need to be 495 corresponding plans for which group winners play which 3rd place teams 495 different ways - and the 8 groups where the 3rd place teams come from won't be known until the last couple of days of group matches - so teams won't even know where they'd be going to play until the last minute. Logistically it is a huge mess. Not to mention the possibility of a bigger differential in days between games as well
Splitting things in half makes things much much much simpler to plan.
You have only 30 possible sets of 3rd place teams (2 times 15) and keeping things within the first 6 groups to play and the second 6 groups to play will keep the days between games differences more reasonable.
The thornier issues with a 2x6x4 come up front with the pots. It would seem that there might be more consideration for balancing out the halves - perhaps odd seeds from each region being in one pot and evens in the other (e.g. Brazil and Argentina each being placed in different halves). Or perhaps not - that would be the biggest new factor that 2x6x4 would bring. In the end though I do think this is a very very likely outcome.
-QG
Anyway in a 6-group tournament with 4 3rd place teams you have 15 different possible combinations of teams advancing (e.g. ABCD, ABCE, ABCF etc up until CDEF). All the groups are separate so at the outset so all possibilities are equal - and FIFA has to plot out what group winners play what 3rd place teams in each case.
Anyway it gets much more complex if you do 12 groups with 8 3rd-place teams advancing. The number of 3rd place teams combinations leaps to 495. Now it's ABCDEFGH, ABCDEFGI, ABCDEFGH etc all the way up to EFGHIJKL. And there would need to be 495 corresponding plans for which group winners play which 3rd place teams 495 different ways - and the 8 groups where the 3rd place teams come from won't be known until the last couple of days of group matches - so teams won't even know where they'd be going to play until the last minute. Logistically it is a huge mess. Not to mention the possibility of a bigger differential in days between games as well
Splitting things in half makes things much much much simpler to plan.
You have only 30 possible sets of 3rd place teams (2 times 15) and keeping things within the first 6 groups to play and the second 6 groups to play will keep the days between games differences more reasonable.
The thornier issues with a 2x6x4 come up front with the pots. It would seem that there might be more consideration for balancing out the halves - perhaps odd seeds from each region being in one pot and evens in the other (e.g. Brazil and Argentina each being placed in different halves). Or perhaps not - that would be the biggest new factor that 2x6x4 would bring. In the end though I do think this is a very very likely outcome.
-QG
Desert_Power
Footballguy
A fun watch. A couple of those goals he just splits defenders with his speed and power like at 5:15 are just awesome. I can see the similarity with Mbappe on some these runs, but I don't think he is nearly as clinical.
titusbramble
Footballguy
Needs Grealish for Saka at half time
massraider
Footballguy
Sterling's house in London was robbed, armed intruders, supposedly he had family there. That's why not available. Scary.
Leaving poor England with only Rashford Grealish, Mount etc on the bench.
Leaving poor England with only Rashford Grealish, Mount etc on the bench.
prefontaine
Footballguy
say it with an outrageous french accent and it will make more sense
prefontaine
Footballguy
Mendy will flap wildly and eventually that will be a goal. Or McGuire will pass right to someone in green one more time. I don't think any other players matter.
titusbramble
Footballguy
HENDO
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Well that'll do it
ChiefD
Footballguy
Yes you will.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
99.9% sure I won't. I am a filthy torrenter so I get all my streaming shows that way anyway so there would be nothing for me on AppleTV.
plus, MLS is still going to be on linear cable as well so I will be able to watch those games if I want. The league is far too big from the old days where you could watch most games.
Now it is pick and choose
massraider
Footballguy
Denver Baltimore is 9-3 right now.
Let's head over to Shark Pool with suggestions
Let's head over to Shark Pool with suggestions
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Many of us were very happy Southgate left Foden out of the US game...
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Double the size of the endzones!
titusbramble
Footballguy
For about five minutes until Mbappe exploits Slab or Stones
titusbramble
Footballguy
Job done, now just hoping that they recognise we will need to score at least three and line up accordingly
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Field goals worth 10 points!
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
the Giants and Commanders ended in a tie. The world should end any minute now
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
And a Bengals player just faked an injury. How can anyone watch this sport?!?1?
ChiefD
Footballguy
I know….wtf.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
So Mbappe already has 9 world cup goals, tied for 14th all time. Should easily get in two more after this one barring injury. Crazy.
DJackson10
Footballguy
The infrastructure in terms of advertising and all is picking up in certain European countries thanks to the clubs in leagues run by US Ownership. Multiple clubs in Italy are now American owned and we're seeing a lot more broadening advertising etc. The one thing Soccer overall needs to better advertising as well as better marketing opportunities.
I didn't realize you meant NFL Football I read that wrong. My cousin said it's pretty popular in Germany. Europe just made EFL European Football league with multiple teams from NFL Europe being revised like The Rhine Fire, Barcelona Dragons, Claymores and some newer teams. They've used soccer specific stadiums. The league starts in late May Early June with some former NFL Players like Georgio Tevecchio who was playing in Italy for a American Football club in their league. He was on Barcelona this past summer. EFL Has a website and you can subscribe to watch all the games too. It's really interesting watching though. I'm just generally a football junky so I will watch that the XFL and USFL when its on this spring and summer.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Mueller was on target to break a ton of WC scoring records back after 2014. Lets hope Mbappe's future WC's go better than Mueller's did.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
To be clear I was not talking about NFL at all with my question.
I was asking how the infrastructure was setup for the sport in Europe so that they could start developing their own players and leagues. He was comparing it to how soccer is developing here and we know the massive strides soccer has taken stateside these past two decades so I was asking how it was the sport was developing in Europe and if something similar could happen in the future.
I was not asking how popular the NFL was.
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prefontaine
Footballguy
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Hey that was a serious serious temporary cramp I'll have you know!
-QG
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Both teams have looked dangerous and deserved a goal. Croatia has to be kicking themselves right now.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Hedge hedge hedge
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Finally a knockout game with some suspense.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Good call. Done. Japan +475.
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