***Official 2024 Pro Cycling Thread*** - The road ends in Spain. Guaranteed Crazy Ending. (3 Viewers)

[BobbyLayne]

. Bike change

I almost choked on my food lol

 

[BobbyLayne]

great ride for Valentin Madouas

LaPorte the Bronze

 

[Jaysus]

I love the chaos of the Olympic road race!

 

[BobbyLayne]

I love the chaos of the Olympic road race!

it's like watching a junior race

go fast, almost nobody working together, no idea what the time gap is, just go faster lol

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I like no radios. Slightly less tech would be a good thing imho. More epo though

 

[BobbyLayne]

I like no radios. Slightly less tech would be a good thing imho. More epo though

why give them mechanics & support cars? let's go back to carrying tools and changing your own punctures using the tubes wrapped around your chest.

I kid, I kid.....it was kind of fun seeing Remco in full panic mode, with no idea if the chase was about to come around the bend while he's waiting for the spare bike.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I like no radios. Slightly less tech would be a good thing imho. More epo though

why give them mechanics & support cars? let's go back to carrying tools and changing your own punctures using the tubes wrapped around your chest.

I kid, I kid.....it was kind of fun seeing Remco in full panic mode, with no idea if the chase was about to come around the bend while he's waiting for the spare bike.

Hitching rides. Jumping on trains. Shortcuts. All of it. I can see it now..CvD jumping off his moto, reporting from a train that the leader jumped on real quick to get through Avignon.

 

[cheeseypoof]

Dumb question. Do they use their normal team bikes, or do all the riders of a country use the same equipment? I assume they use their normal team bikes.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I like no radios. Slightly less tech would be a good thing imho. More epo though

why give them mechanics & support cars? let's go back to carrying tools and changing your own punctures using the tubes wrapped around your chest.

I kid, I kid.....it was kind of fun seeing Remco in full panic mode, with no idea if the chase was about to come around the bend while he's waiting for the spare bike.

Hitching rides. Jumping on trains. Shortcuts. All of it. I can see it now..CvD jumping off his moto, reporting from a train that the leader jumped on real quick to get through Avignon.

feed zone = cafe raid, just take what you need

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I like no radios. Slightly less tech would be a good thing imho. More epo though

why give them mechanics & support cars? let's go back to carrying tools and changing your own punctures using the tubes wrapped around your chest.

I kid, I kid.....it was kind of fun seeing Remco in full panic mode, with no idea if the chase was about to come around the bend while he's waiting for the spare bike.

Hitching rides. Jumping on trains. Shortcuts. All of it. I can see it now..CvD jumping off his moto, reporting from a train that the leader jumped on real quick to get through Avignon.

feed zone = cafe raid, just take what you need

Yes! So great

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Dumb question. Do they use their normal team bikes, or do all the riders of a country use the same equipment? I assume they use their normal team bikes.

Good question! That remco swap looked like a very generic bike. The Olympics must level the field with equipment, right?

 

[BobbyLayne]

Dumb question. Do they use their normal team bikes, or do all the riders of a country use the same equipment? I assume they use their normal team bikes.

Good question! That remco swap looked like a very generic bike. The Olympics must level the field with equipment, right?

Likely the only difference was the custom paint on the main.

He did forget his Garmin, though. No Strava data, it didn’t happen.

 

[cheeseypoof]

USA’s Kristen Faulkner gets the gold!!!

 

[BobbyLayne]

USA’s Kristen Faulkner gets the gold!!!

Stunning result! What a move with 3.3 km to go.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Phil Liggett, who turns 81 Sunday, retired yesterday. The gaffes had become too frequent, but while we all feel some sense of relief, there is no denying his legacy is secure. 50+ years of cycling fans, 3 generations, fell in love with this great sport while listening to him.

psst…hey Bob…

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Phil Liggett, who turns 81 Sunday, retired yesterday. The gaffes had become too frequent, but while we all feel some sense of relief, there is no denying his legacy is secure. 50+ years of cycling fans, 3 generations, fell in love with this great sport while listening to him.

psst…hey Bob…

Paul and Phil were the voices of my cycling fandom. Now it’s Bob and ?… Jens Voight?

 

[Tick]

USA’s Kristen Faulkner gets the gold!!!

Alaskan flag at the summer Olympics!

She just broke them - all three looked at each other wanting someone to be able to answer, none could.

 

[Sand]

Phil Liggett, who turns 81 Sunday, retired yesterday. The gaffes had become too frequent, but while we all feel some sense of relief, there is no denying his legacy is secure. 50+ years of cycling fans, 3 generations, fell in love with this great sport while listening to him.

psst…hey Bob…

Paul and Phil were the voices of my cycling fandom. Now it’s Bob and ?… Jens Voight?

God I hope not. Has to be Christian. Easily the best of the rest. Or steal Orla Chennaoui.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Phil Liggett, who turns 81 Sunday, retired yesterday. The gaffes had become too frequent, but while we all feel some sense of relief, there is no denying his legacy is secure. 50+ years of cycling fans, 3 generations, fell in love with this great sport while listening to him.

psst…hey Bob…

Paul and Phil were the voices of my cycling fandom. Now it’s Bob and ?… Jens Voight?

God I hope not. Has to be Christian. Easily the best of the rest. Or steal Orla Chennaoui.

That’s was my first thought. Who takes over the moto job?

 

[Sand]

Phil Liggett, who turns 81 Sunday, retired yesterday. The gaffes had become too frequent, but while we all feel some sense of relief, there is no denying his legacy is secure. 50+ years of cycling fans, 3 generations, fell in love with this great sport while listening to him.

psst…hey Bob…

Paul and Phil were the voices of my cycling fandom. Now it’s Bob and ?… Jens Voight?

God I hope not. Has to be Christian. Easily the best of the rest. Or steal Orla Chennaoui.

That’s was my first thought. Who takes over the moto job?

My vote is for Taylor Phinney.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Phil Liggett, who turns 81 Sunday, retired yesterday. The gaffes had become too frequent, but while we all feel some sense of relief, there is no denying his legacy is secure. 50+ years of cycling fans, 3 generations, fell in love with this great sport while listening to him.

psst…hey Bob…

Paul and Phil were the voices of my cycling fandom. Now it’s Bob and ?… Jens Voight?

God I hope not. Has to be Christian. Easily the best of the rest. Or steal Orla Chennaoui.

That’s was my first thought. Who takes over the moto job?

Jens

 

[BassNBrew]

Phil Liggett, who turns 81 Sunday, retired yesterday. The gaffes had become too frequent, but while we all feel some sense of relief, there is no denying his legacy is secure. 50+ years of cycling fans, 3 generations, fell in love with this great sport while listening to him.

psst…hey Bob…

Paul and Phil were the voices of my cycling fandom. Now it’s Bob and ?… Jens Voight?

Should be Horner but he's probably pissed off to many people by calling them knuckleheads.

I'd clean house and go with Johan and Lance.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Phil Liggett, who turns 81 Sunday, retired yesterday. The gaffes had become too frequent, but while we all feel some sense of relief, there is no denying his legacy is secure. 50+ years of cycling fans, 3 generations, fell in love with this great sport while listening to him.

psst…hey Bob…

Paul and Phil were the voices of my cycling fandom. Now it’s Bob and ?… Jens Voight?

Should be Horner but he's probably pissed off to many people by calling them knuckleheads.

I'd clean house and go with Johan and Lance.

Lance and hincapie are pretty entertaining.

 

[BassNBrew]

Phil Liggett, who turns 81 Sunday, retired yesterday. The gaffes had become too frequent, but while we all feel some sense of relief, there is no denying his legacy is secure. 50+ years of cycling fans, 3 generations, fell in love with this great sport while listening to him.

psst…hey Bob…

Paul and Phil were the voices of my cycling fandom. Now it’s Bob and ?… Jens Voight?

Should be Horner but he's probably pissed off to many people by calling them knuckleheads.

I'd clean house and go with Johan and Lance.

Lance and hincapie are pretty entertaining.

Yeah...once you get past the 70% commercials

 

[BobbyLayne]

Phil Liggett, who turns 81 Sunday, retired yesterday. The gaffes had become too frequent, but while we all feel some sense of relief, there is no denying his legacy is secure. 50+ years of cycling fans, 3 generations, fell in love with this great sport while listening to him.

psst…hey Bob…

Paul and Phil were the voices of my cycling fandom. Now it’s Bob and ?… Jens Voight?

Should be Horner but he's probably pissed off to many people by calling them knuckleheads.

I'd clean house and go with Johan and Lance.

Lance and hincapie are pretty entertaining.

Yeah...once you get past the 70% commercials

Peacock would never have to break for commercial - just have Lance endlessly reading copy while the break formation battles are going on.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I almost got me one of those rings that measure everything

 

[BassNBrew]

I almost got me one of those rings that measure everything

Cockring?

 

[Tick]

So women's Tour de France starts tomorrow? Is it on TV anywhere?

 

[cheeseypoof]

So women's Tour de France starts tomorrow? Is it on TV anywhere?

It’s on Peacock. Stage 1 airs starting at 6am (ET).

 

[Tick]

So women's Tour de France starts tomorrow? Is it on TV anywhere?

It’s on Peacock. Stage 1 airs starting at 6am (ET).

I can't focus for a full Tour anyway - 20 minute recaps per day were great in the men's, I hope NBC Sports cuts those together for the femmes too.

 

[BobbyLayne]

UAE 2024 Vuelta a España team

• Joao Almeida (Por)
• Filippo Baroncini (Ita)
• Isaac Del Toro (Mex)
• Brandon McNulty (USA)
• Pavel Sivakov (Fra)
• Marc Soler (Spa)
• Jay Vine (Aus)
• Adam Yates (GB)

No Tadej and still an amazing squad. Looking forward to seeing Del Toro make his GT debut (he's still 20 years old.) Obviously he'll be working for Joao and Adam, but he is going to be an awesome GC eventually.

Juan Ayuso left off; the Spaniard finished 3rd and 4th in the Vuelta the last two years. Next time you're riding for Pogi, maybe take a turn pulling, eh?

Gonna be a long four years for him if he doesn't wake up.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Did anyone have Team DSM-Firmenich PostNL winning the opening stage of both the men's and women's tdf on their bingo card?

 

[BobbyLayne]

Kool beats Wiebes again (the latter had her derailleur detach yesterday - at this point the F*&# SRAM memes write themselves) in Stage 2.

That was so much fun, let's play 2!

Tour de France Femmes 2024 Stage 3 | Lanterne Rouge

Vollering takes the 6.3 km ITT and puts time into both Kool and Wiebes.

Would be surprising if a breakaway takes it back, but if they do, Demi will just crush everyone on the Alpe d'Huez.

One Cat 2 and two HC climbs on Stage 8, with the summit finish in the Huez commune.

 

[cheeseypoof]

I was surprised when I realized they had a short stage followed by a ITT on the same day. Any idea on why they did it that way, or is it just something the women's tour does?

 

[Sand]

Is the league setup for the Vuelta? I need to get my perpetually mediocre entry in.

 

[cheeseypoof]

Is the league setup for the Vuelta? I need to get my perpetually mediocre entry in.

Not yet. Probably Thursday I would guess.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I was surprised when I realized they had a short stage followed by a ITT on the same day. Any idea on why they did it that way, or is it just something the women's tour does?

They’ve done it a handful of times on the women’s circuit this season. It’s easily manageable.

67.9 km for Stage 2, break to refuel, switch bikes, helmets and change into skin suits, mini ITT of 6.3 km.

Used to very common on the Grand Tours.

• 1954 - Loison Bobet won the 2nd of his 3 consecutive wins. Le Tour was 4,656 km, or 1,098 longer than 2024. Stage 4 was divided into two parts: the team time trial of 10.4 km (part A), and a regular stage of 131 km (part B), both run on the same day. Similarly, stage 21 was divided into a regular stage of 134 km (part A) and an individual time trial of 72 km (part B), also both run on the same day. Still the same general format - 21 stages and 2 rest days - but they called them Stage 4a/4b and 21a/21b.
• 1957 - Jacques Anquetil won the first of his 5 TdF titles. 22 stages over 24 days, 4,669 km (longest was 317 km.) Two split stages, one a flat stage + short TTT, the other a flat stage + short TT, same as 1954.
• 1969 - the birth of The Cannibal, Eddy Merckx. Having already won the General, Points and Mountain jerseys at the 1968 Giro d’Italia, he dominated the TdF. In 1968, 19 riders were within 20:00; the following year, the 10th place rider was +52:56, the 20th place rider was +1:17:36. Only one rider was within 18:00 of Merckx - who won 6 stages. The 1969 race is the only time that a single cyclist has won the general classification, the points classification and the mountains classification as well. Eddy Merckx rode on the winning team, Faema, and also won the combination classification as well as the combativity award. That Tour had NO REST DAYS - Prologue, 22 stages, 3 split stages - effectively, 26 segments over 22 days. One of the split stages was a morning ITT followed by an afternoon mountains stage. 4,117 km, longest was 329 km.
• 1971 - prologue followed by 3 split Stage 1 - 1a was a flat 59.5 km, 1b a 90 km medium mountain, 1c a 74.5 km flat stage. There was two other split stage and rest days made a return - in all, Prologue, 20 stages, 2 rest days (2x air transfers), 3 split stages - added 4 more parts - so 25 segments in 22 days. But the overall distance was shorter than the previous Tour by 646 km and the shortest since 1905. Merckx won his 3rd straight; would go to win 5 TdF and 11 Grand Tours.

I’m not sure when they stopped doing split stages in the Grand Tours. This blog post at EF Pro Cycling gives a bit of history and discusses strategy, but doesn’t say nothing about double stages stopping - only that’s “rare in modern cycling.” I think they mean in Elite Men’s, because I know I saw 3-4 double stages in Women’s Elite on PCS.

edit added link

 

[Sand]

They’ve done it a handful of times on the women’s circuit this season. It’s easily manageable.

67.9 km for Stage 2, break to refuel, switch bikes, helmets and change into skin suits, mini ITT of 6.3 km.

So how many muscle groups I could get to cramp solid on a day like this...

I'm betting most of them.

 

[Tick]

A 7.5 minute time trial seems a bit silly. Not much margin to work with there.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Vuelta team for VLaB:

Team Visma | Lease a Bike (WT)

• -KUSS Sepp
• -VAN AERT Wout
• -GESINK Robert
• -KRUIJSWIJK Steven
• -AFFINI Edoardo13h
• -VALTER Attila13h
• -VAN BAARLE Dylan
• -UIJTDEBROEKS Cian*

 

[BobbyLayne]

A 7.5 minute time trial seems a bit silly. Not much margin to work with there.

Were probably hoping it was just hard enough to knock out the 3 remaining Uzbekistani but not take anyone else out. One made the OTL time cut by only 15 seconds (finished 147th - last place), another was 144th. There lone respectable competitor finished 113th, 50 seconds off the pace.

Tashkent City Women’s cycling team tries to justify their existemce after 4 riders fail to finish Stage 1

Conti team that figured out a way to game the system to accumulate enough UCI points to get an automatic invite. In reality they literally brought 6 riders who have no business riding Women’s Elite.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I realize ESL is a factor here but a couple headlines today had me chucking over coffee this morning.

Mathieu van der Poel puts a cross through Vuelta a España

Mathieu van der Poel will abstain from the Vuelta a España​

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Is the league setup for the Vuelta? I need to get my perpetually mediocre entry in.

Not yet. Probably Thursday I would guess.

Crap. I’m driving all day Friday. Going to be a dart throw.

 

[Sand]

Is the league setup for the Vuelta? I need to get my perpetually mediocre entry in.

Not yet. Probably Thursday I would guess.

Crap. I’m driving all day Friday. Going to be a dart throw.

Why are you poaching my drafting method?

 

[Jaysus]

Mathieu van der Poel will abstain from the Vuelta a España​

Me too!

 

[BobbyLayne]

La Vuelta Ciclista A España Preview - Lanterne Rouge Cycling Podcast

 

[cheeseypoof]

Is the league setup for the Vuelta? I need to get my perpetually mediocre entry in.

Not yet. Probably Thursday I would guess.

Crap. I’m driving all day Friday. Going to be a dart throw.

Looks like the Vuelta entries are open now.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Is the league setup for the Vuelta? I need to get my perpetually mediocre entry in.

Not yet. Probably Thursday I would guess.

Crap. I’m driving all day Friday. Going to be a dart throw.

Looks like the Vuelta entries are open now.

Yep working on my first iteration now.

What’s our league code again?

 

[BobbyLayne]

748469416

 

[cheeseypoof]

748469416

It should automatically appear after you create your team.