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***Official 2025 Golf Thread, tbd*** (3 Viewers)

belljr said:
97 then an 81as a 20???
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yeah ...not gonna be popular at the member-guest

Q: How often should I play to -- or beat -- my handicap?
Knuth: If it's accurate, you should average about three shots above your handicap. For example, a player with a course handicap of 16 on a course with a rating of 71.1 should score on average about 90. The USGA handicap system is based on 96 percent of the best 10 of a golfer's last 20 rounds, not simply average score.

Scores normally fit into the classic bell-shaped curve. More than half of your scores should be within three strokes of three over your handicap. In other words, taking our 16-handicapper, more than half of the rounds should be between 87 and 93. The player will better the handicap -- shooting 87 or lower -- only about 20 percent of the time, or once every five rounds. Golfers should only beat their handicap by three strokes one out of every 20 rounds.

Q: What are the odds of that 16-handicapper breaking 80?
Knuth: The odds of someone beating their handicap -- if it's an honest handicap -- by eight strokes are 1,138 to 1. For most players that represents about 54 years of golf -- a lifetime for many. The odds of beating your number by eight strokes twice are 14,912 to 1, or 710 years of golf.

 
belljr said:
97 then an 81as a 20???
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It's a legit 20. My last 20 scores are 81, 96, 97, 119, 101, 91, 84, 103, 94, 94, 91, 93, 117, 103, 100, 103, 103, 103, 97, 91 with the earliest in the string in November. Every round I play goes into TheGrint, no vanity cap here. I don't play in tournaments, I only track it to know how I'm doing. 

I normally play from the whites and the course today is the easiest one of the 3-4 we normally play. It's only 68.4/118 from the whites and it's the only course I've broken 90 on. 

We're playing from the blues at his country club on Friday - those are my 119 and 117 scores from the last 20 rounds. It's 71.9/135 and a LOT harder. The member I'm playing with has never broken 90 there. 

 
I get that it seems suspicious, I really do. 

I fully believe it was a fluke today due to the relative non-difficulty of the course and I kept the ball in play. I suppose it's possible that I had a breakthrough and I'm on the path to lower scores from here but I'm pretty sure I'm not breaking 100 on Friday. 

 
Quint said:
i'm looking to change balls for the 2016 season (been playing e6 and Q-Star in last year), and was advised to give Snell "My Tour Ball" a look.

alleged performance equal to PRO V1, ChromeSoft, and ZStar (among others), and price of $31.99/dzn with free shipping. 

anyone played these?
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I ordered a dozen after seeing your post. I gave a sleeve to a friend and he ordered 6 dozen after playing with them once. After a few rounds, I did the same.

I've liked them. My drives have been better than they have all winter. It may not be the ball, but it certainly hasn't been worse. It's hard to judge the spin because the course is still very wet and soft. My feeling is it doesn't spin as much as the ProV1 but similar to the Tour Preferred (at least for me). But, I'm not really good enough to worry about spin. For $26 a dozen (for 6), it's a bargain compared to those two though.

 
IMO anyone playing with a handicap above 10 paying more than $1 per ball is wasting money. 

I'm currently at 11 and trending down. Three rounds this year are 81, 79, 82. Just invested in the new Ping G irons, but pretty sure improved tee play and chipping making all the difference.  That and being on the range/course every day coaching JV girls at the school I teach at. 

I like the Wilson Staff balls for their super duper soft cover. Just a nice feel when around the greens. Often find them for under $1 a ball. 

 
ZenMaster said:
I use TheGrint. It's free for the basic functionality but the Pro option ($19.99/year) gives additional stat tracking. 
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Downloaded and signed up to try out the free version.

I've been using the swing by swing GPS app with no complaints, this one looks even better 

 
Hooper31 said:
Handicap cheats have their own special place in hell. The odds of a 20 shooting 9 under their handicap are so small it's ridiculous. 
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I agree with you about sandbaggers. I don't play in tournaments but I've read enough stories about them to know it's a huge problem. 

I don't know what else to say. I play every weekend and I enter all my scores. In 90+ rounds I've broken 90 5 times. I'm not consistent enough to string together good enough scores to get lower. I think I got down to a 19.2 once. 

Think what you want and like I said, I get that it's suspicious but my scores are what they are. 

 
I'm not even sure how handicaps work to be honest, but I played twice this yr, two Saturdays ago and this past Saturday.

88 and 107 :lol:

 
ZenMaster said:
It's a legit 20. My last 20 scores are 81, 96, 97, 119, 101, 91, 84, 103, 94, 94, 91, 93, 117, 103, 100, 103, 103, 103, 97, 91 with the earliest in the string in November. Every round I play goes into TheGrint, no vanity cap here. I don't play in tournaments, I only track it to know how I'm doing. 

I normally play from the whites and the course today is the easiest one of the 3-4 we normally play. It's only 68.4/118 from the whites and it's the only course I've broken 90 on. 

We're playing from the blues at his country club on Friday - those are my 119 and 117 scores from the last 20 rounds. It's 71.9/135 and a LOT harder. The member I'm playing with has never broken 90 there. 
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Zen - its not that I don't believe you, I wanted to prepare you for the amount of heat you and your partner were in for with those kinds of rounds/with those kinds of handicaps.  Has your partner checked to see if the club is taking the self-recorded handicap "as is"?  

Most clubs will call the pro at the guest's members home club to verify the ghin system handicap.  It sounds like you may not have any other method of verification with TheGrint app that is independent from a specific club pro that can verify your game. You may want to ask your buddy to check on this.  

 
Binky The Doormat said:
yeah ...not gonna be popular at the member-guest

Q: How often should I play to -- or beat -- my handicap?
Knuth: If it's accurate, you should average about three shots above your handicap. For example, a player with a course handicap of 16 on a course with a rating of 71.1 should score on average about 90. The USGA handicap system is based on 96 percent of the best 10 of a golfer's last 20 rounds, not simply average score.

Scores normally fit into the classic bell-shaped curve. More than half of your scores should be within three strokes of three over your handicap. In other words, taking our 16-handicapper, more than half of the rounds should be between 87 and 93. The player will better the handicap -- shooting 87 or lower -- only about 20 percent of the time, or once every five rounds. Golfers should only beat their handicap by three strokes one out of every 20 rounds.

Q: What are the odds of that 16-handicapper breaking 80?
Knuth: The odds of someone beating their handicap -- if it's an honest handicap -- by eight strokes are 1,138 to 1. For most players that represents about 54 years of golf -- a lifetime for many. The odds of beating your number by eight strokes twice are 14,912 to 1, or 710 years of golf.
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I never knew the answer to the first question.  I know with my scores I don't feel like an 8.1.  But with those 90's all falling off I guess it makes sense.  Shot an 82 and 84 this weekend so the 3 shots or so above average sounds right.  I just know I wasn't regularly shooting 80.  




Club


Handicap Index


Effective Date


Low H.I.


Wood Ranch Golf Club
Southern California Golf Assoc


8.1


3/15/2016


7.8







Revision ScoresRecent ScoresH.I. HistC.H. CalcMy Card



Used


T


Date


Score


CR/Slope


Diff.


Course


 


H


3/13/16


89


72.5/137


13.6


Wood Ranch Golf Club


*


H


3/12/16


86


72.5/137


11.1


Wood Ranch Golf Club


 


H


1/28/16


93


72.5/137


16.9


Wood Ranch Golf Club


*


H


1/23/16


85


71.9/135


11.0


Wood Ranch Golf Club


 


H


6/6/15


89


70.2/133


16.0


PGA West TPC Stadium Course


 


H


6/3/15


94


70.8/130


20.2


PGA West Nicklaus Tournament C


*


H


5/21/15


85


72.5/137


10.3


Wood Ranch Golf Club


*


H


5/16/15


82


70.6/129


10.0


Tierra Rejada Golf Club


 


H


5/14/15


86


72.5/137


11.1


Wood Ranch Golf Club


 


H


2/27/15


85


71.6/128


11.8


Rustic Canyon Golf Course


 


H


2/21/15


86


71.6/128


12.7


Rustic Canyon Golf Course


*


H


11/28/14


76


70.6/129


4.7


Tierra Rejada Golf Club


*


H


11/15/14


78


70.6/129


6.5


Tierra Rejada Golf Club


*


H


11/11/14


79


70.6/129


7.4


Tierra Rejada Golf Club


 


H


10/25/14


92


72.5/137


16.1


Wood Ranch Golf Club


 


H


6/1/14


85


70.2/133


12.6


PGA West TPC Stadium Course


 


H


6/1/14


87


70.9/129


14.1


La Quinta Resort & Club Mounta


*


H


5/30/14


80


70.8/130


8.0


PGA West Nicklaus Tournament C


*


H


3/18/14


83


73.6/135


7.9


TPC @ Valencia


*


H


3/15/14


81


71.6/127


8.4


Olivas Links






 
ZenMaster said:
I get that it seems suspicious, I really do. 

I fully believe it was a fluke today due to the relative non-difficulty of the course and I kept the ball in play. I suppose it's possible that I had a breakthrough and I'm on the path to lower scores from here but I'm pretty sure I'm not breaking 100 on Friday. 
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I don't see why not. If you shot 81, you can mentally review how you did it, I assume.

And now attempt to replicate the things you did on the new course: keep ball in play is #1. Don't compound physical mistakes with mental mistakes and then make a few one putts and eliminate 3 putts.  I could caddy you around the harder club and guarantee you a 92 assuming you didn't get drunk.

 
Binky The Doormat said:
Zen - its not that I don't believe you, I wanted to prepare you for the amount of heat you and your partner were in for with those kinds of rounds/with those kinds of handicaps.  Has your partner checked to see if the club is taking the self-recorded handicap "as is"?  

Most clubs will call the pro at the guest's members home club to verify the ghin system handicap.  It sounds like you may not have any other method of verification with TheGrint app that is independent from a specific club pro that can verify your game. You may want to ask your buddy to check on this.  
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I think a big reason for his 82 yesterday was how easy the course is compared to his club course. He's also been taking lessons and had an epiphany with his driver last week. I hadn't seen him hit it since last year since he couldn't keep it in play.

I'll ask him to check if TheGrint is an accepted method of verifying handicap. I hadn't thought of it since this is the first time I've ever played where it mattered.

 
tommyboy said:
I don't see why not. If you shot 81, you can mentally review how you did it, I assume.

And now attempt to replicate the things you did on the new course: keep ball in play is #1. Don't compound physical mistakes with mental mistakes and then make a few one putts and eliminate 3 putts.  I could caddy you around the harder club and guarantee you a 92 assuming you didn't get drunk.
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Keeping the ball in play at the country club is definitely #1. There's water on 30/36 holes and not a lot of margin anywhere else. We played there a couple of weeks ago and I lost 10 balls. I think it was something similar the time before that.

My best option is probably to avoid my driver since about half the time it's a slice and it's guaranteed OB at this club. I need to spend a lot of time putting before we tee off. The greens at the club are the fastest of any course I've played and I had a horrible time two weeks ago. Shot 52/67 thanks to 8 balls in the water on the back 9 including 5 combined on the two par-3s.

 
Tee off with hybrids and irons. On par 3's aim for the leftmost edge of the green (assuming your a right handed slicer). On all t shots give your aim enough margin for error that even if you cut it a little too much at worst you'll be right rough. Don't stress the speed of greens, when you warm up practice 40 footers, lagging to 2-3 ft circle around the hole.  You'll quickly adapt to green speeds and can then move closer and practice making 5-15 ft putts

 
Just a test.  Everyone has blowups.   This will go back up quickly :)​


Club


Handicap Index


Effective Date


Low H.I.


Running Deer Golf Club
Golf Assoc of Philadelphia


6.8


3/15/2016


6.8







Revision ScoresRecent ScoresH.I. HistC.H. CalcMy Card



Used


T


Date


Score


CR/Slope


Diff.


*


A


10/15


81


72.2/127


7.8


*


H


10/15


75


70.6/122


4.1


 


H


9/15


83


70.6/122


11.5


 


A


9/15


84


70.7/123


12.2


 


H


8/15


82


70.6/122


10.6


*


H


8/15


76


70.6/122


5.0


 


H


8/15


89


70.6/122


17.0


*


A


7/15


80


71.8/129


7.2


*


H


7/15


77


70.6/122


5.9


 


A


7/15


82


70.7/123


10.4


*


H


7/15


80


70.6/122


8.7


 


A


6/15


85


71.4/135


11.4


 


A


6/15


92


70.8/132


18.1


*


A


6/15


81


70.3/125


9.7


*


H


6/15


77


70.6/122


5.9


*


H


6/15


81


70.6/122


9.6


 


H


5/15


82


70.6/122


10.6


 


A


5/15


83


70.2/123


11.8


 


A


5/15


87


70.2/123


15.4


*


H


5/15


79


70.6/122


7.8






 
Apple Jack said:
yeah that's kind of hard to believe.
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I've actually had a couple other very similar cards. I attribute it to two things:

1. Both of the courses I mainly play are 37-35 where the front nines are significantly more difficult. It's very common to see good players going 43-37 on both. 

2. My struggle golfing is mostly mental. Also, I play a lot of Nassau games where the nines are split. I generally go out there intending not to drink, play a couple of balls ob early, then crack open a beer or whisky around hole 6. By the turn I'm slightly buzzed to going on buzzed and I know I just shot terribly on the front so I stop caring and just swing away on the back. 

 
ZenMaster - you might be a little "sandy" if you are posting your scores but not using equitable stroke control.  For a 20 handicap that means the HIGHEST score you can post for handicap purposes is an 8 on any hole.  Since you're right on the cusp of a 20 handicap and if you don't use equitable stroke control you handicap is definitely lower...and from between a 10-20 handicap the HIGHEST score you can post is a 7- which might lower your handicap even more.  Meaning your actual handicap might be closer to a 16-17.

http://www.usga.org/handicapfaq/handicap_answer.asp?FAQidx=9

Handicapping FAQs

Section 4



Adjusting Hole Scores for Equitable Stroke Control (ESC)™



Q.  What is the current method for adjusting my hole scores under Equitable Stroke Control (ESC)?



A.  ESC is an adjustment of individual hole scores (for handicap purposes) in order to make handicaps more representative of a player's potential ability. ESC is applied after the round and is only used when the actual score or the most likely score exceeds a player’s maximum number. ESC sets a limit to the number of strokes a player can take on a hole depending on Course Handicap™. Apply ESC to all scores, including tournament scores. Below is the maximum number a player can take:


Course Handicap


Maximum Number


9 or less


Double Bogey


10-19


7


20-29


8


30-39


9


40 and above


10



 
tommyboy said:
Tee off with hybrids and irons. On par 3's aim for the leftmost edge of the green (assuming your a right handed slicer). On all t shots give your aim enough margin for error that even if you cut it a little too much at worst you'll be right rough. Don't stress the speed of greens, when you warm up practice 40 footers, lagging to 2-3 ft circle around the hole.  You'll quickly adapt to green speeds and can then move closer and practice making 5-15 ft putts
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I'm moving to Portland, where should I look to play?  I'll be on the NE side.

 
siffoin said:
ZenMaster - you might be a little "sandy" if you are posting your scores but not using equitable stroke control.  For a 20 handicap that means the HIGHEST score you can post for handicap purposes is an 8 on any hole.  Since you're right on the cusp of a 20 handicap and if you don't use equitable stroke control you handicap is definitely lower...and from between a 10-20 handicap the HIGHEST score you can post is a 7- which might lower your handicap even more.  Meaning your actual handicap might be closer to a 16-17.

http://www.usga.org/handicapfaq/handicap_answer.asp?FAQidx=9

Handicapping FAQs

Section 4



Adjusting Hole Scores for Equitable Stroke Control (ESC)™



Q.  What is the current method for adjusting my hole scores under Equitable Stroke Control (ESC)?



A.  ESC is an adjustment of individual hole scores (for handicap purposes) in order to make handicaps more representative of a player's potential ability. ESC is applied after the round and is only used when the actual score or the most likely score exceeds a player’s maximum number. ESC sets a limit to the number of strokes a player can take on a hole depending on Course Handicap™. Apply ESC to all scores, including tournament scores. Below is the maximum number a player can take:


Course Handicap


Maximum Number


9 or less


Double Bogey


10-19


7


20-29


8


30-39


9


40 and above


10
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Course Handicap... How do I know what the course handicap is, or is this my handicap for a particular course?   Not sure what my max number of shots would be here...  

 
siffoin said:
ZenMaster - you might be a little "sandy" if you are posting your scores but not using equitable stroke control. 
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This is a big deal if you plan to play in tournaments. If not, it doesn't matter what you do because you're not using the handicap as a measuring device in a competitive situation. I had no idea about this concept until I played in a tournament and posted a quad on a par 4. Next day I see that the overall score I posted was changed by the guy running the tourney. When I asked him about it he let me know that I wasn't allowed to post an 8 on any hole if submitting it for my handicap. 

 
siffoin said:
ZenMaster - you might be a little "sandy" if you are posting your scores but not using equitable stroke control.  For a 20 handicap that means the HIGHEST score you can post for handicap purposes is an 8 on any hole.  Since you're right on the cusp of a 20 handicap and if you don't use equitable stroke control you handicap is definitely lower...and from between a 10-20 handicap the HIGHEST score you can post is a 7- which might lower your handicap even more.  Meaning your actual handicap might be closer to a 16-17.

http://www.usga.org/handicapfaq/handicap_answer.asp?FAQidx=9

Handicapping FAQs

Section 4



Adjusting Hole Scores for Equitable Stroke Control (ESC)™



Q.  What is the current method for adjusting my hole scores under Equitable Stroke Control (ESC)?



A.  ESC is an adjustment of individual hole scores (for handicap purposes) in order to make handicaps more representative of a player's potential ability. ESC is applied after the round and is only used when the actual score or the most likely score exceeds a player’s maximum number. ESC sets a limit to the number of strokes a player can take on a hole depending on Course Handicap™. Apply ESC to all scores, including tournament scores. Below is the maximum number a player can take:


Course Handicap


Maximum Number


9 or less


Double Bogey


10-19


7


20-29


8


30-39


9


40 and above


10
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I assumed TheGrint would take ESC into account and adjust my score for any given hole. Hmmmmm.........I'll check into that. I'll look at a few of my rounds and see if it's doing it automatically or not.

Edit: looks like TheGrint does do it automatically - I looked at the last time I played the country club (119) and my ESC score was 115.

Edit 2: I recalculated the country club score using a max 7 instead of 8 (with my current HCP of 19.8) - changes my handicap differential from 36.1 to 31.5 for that particular round. @siffoin - I think that's it. Since I'm on the dividing line between 7 and 8 as my max number, I'm a little higher than I should be because there are probably a few 8s here and there that would get knocked down to 7s.

I went back and recalculated my HCP from the last 20 rounds assuming a max score of 7 instead of 8. HCP changed from 19.8 to 19.0.

 
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urbanhack said:
I'm moving to Portland, where should I look to play?  I'll be on the NE side.
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Heron lakes is great. Rose city, Eastmoreland, Wildwood is fun.  If you can play private, try Columbia Edgewater. On the Washington side of the river try three Rivers and camas meadows

 
Hoosier16 said:
I ordered a dozen after seeing your post. I gave a sleeve to a friend and he ordered 6 dozen after playing with them once. After a few rounds, I did the same.

I've liked them. My drives have been better than they have all winter. It may not be the ball, but it certainly hasn't been worse. It's hard to judge the spin because the course is still very wet and soft. My feeling is it doesn't spin as much as the ProV1 but similar to the Tour Preferred (at least for me). But, I'm not really good enough to worry about spin. For $26 a dozen (for 6), it's a bargain compared to those two though.
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Thanks. I ordered a dozen MTB....will report back.

 
ZenMaster said:
I assumed TheGrint would take ESC into account and adjust my score for any given hole. Hmmmmm.........I'll check into that. I'll look at a few of my rounds and see if it's doing it automatically or not.

Edit: looks like TheGrint does do it automatically - I looked at the last time I played the country club (119) and my ESC score was 115.

Edit 2: I recalculated the country club score using a max 7 instead of 8 (with my current HCP of 19.8) - changes my handicap differential from 36.1 to 31.5 for that particular round. @siffoin - I think that's it. Since I'm on the dividing line between 7 and 8 as my max number, I'm a little higher than I should be because there are probably a few 8s here and there that would get knocked down to 7s.

I went back and recalculated my HCP from the last 20 rounds assuming a max score of 7 instead of 8. HCP changed from 19.8 to 19.0.
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I would expect that TheGrint does a decent job of calculating the input (though it should have caught the score max if it is accessing the individual holes from the course).  

What a tournament director would be concerned about is the lack of any possible verification through a club pro familiar with your game or access to others that have played with you.  

Some clubs even require that the golf shop enter scores.

 
Question: How do you guys approach finding an instructor and taking lessons?

I recently took a lesson with a local PGA pro.  I had been pulling my irons every 3rd shot or so, and was looking for a fix before a golf trip.  The guy tried to re-work my swing...saying my issue was a problem with transfer of weight...and now my swing is totally screwed up.  Went on the golf trip and sprayed balls all over the place.  Also can't seem to figure out how I was swinging before the lesson to just go back to my status quo of being ok with the regular pulls.  Maybe totally overhauling my swing is what I need for long term improvement, but between work and kids i don't have the time to dedicate to practice so I'd prefer to go out there and play my standard bogey golf rather than waste a summer trying to learn a new swing.

Does anyone have a method for finding an instructor and how you approach the lesson?  Or is it just trial and error where i have to shell out $50-90 a pop until I find someone I like?

 
SouthJersey said:
Question: How do you guys approach finding an instructor and taking lessons?

I recently took a lesson with a local PGA pro.  I had been pulling my irons every 3rd shot or so, and was looking for a fix before a golf trip.  The guy tried to re-work my swing...saying my issue was a problem with transfer of weight...and now my swing is totally screwed up.  Went on the golf trip and sprayed balls all over the place.  Also can't seem to figure out how I was swinging before the lesson to just go back to my status quo of being ok with the regular pulls.  Maybe totally overhauling my swing is what I need for long term improvement, but between work and kids i don't have the time to dedicate to practice so I'd prefer to go out there and play my standard bogey golf rather than waste a summer trying to learn a new swing.

Does anyone have a method for finding an instructor and how you approach the lesson?  Or is it just trial and error where i have to shell out $50-90 a pop until I find someone I like?





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Its pretty tough I think.  Talking with other guys that have taken lessons from various guys and asking about their approach, etc. is the only practical way.  You may be able to tag along and watch a friend's lesson though ...

I am considering the same thing and was drawn in by a local tv ad about this guy being the state's #1 teaching pro per Golf Digest.  Nice teaching facilities and swing monitors as well.  Haven't decided anything yet.  I'm old and not interested in making an entire swing change but that is pretty common.  

"I'm much less flexible than I used to be and I don't want to make any drastic swing changes, but I want to hit my drives at least 30 yards further.  Help me."  - Binky the golf student  :D

 
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Binky The Doormat said:
I would expect that TheGrint does a decent job of calculating the input (though it should have caught the score max if it is accessing the individual holes from the course).  

What a tournament director would be concerned about is the lack of any possible verification through a club pro familiar with your game or access to others that have played with you.  

Some clubs even require that the golf shop enter scores.
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I'll find out on Friday. The member said when he registered us online, he put a note indicating the handicap for me was from TheGrint. I'm OK if the club revises it downward based on my more recent scores - I'm not going in looking to win any prizes, I just like getting the opportunity to play the course even though it's above my skill level.

 
Other


USGA Hadicap system, USGA trademark, Course Rating, Handicap Index are registered trademarks of the USGA United States Golf Association.

The Grint Golf Club is licensed to use the USGA Handicap System. Only members that request to join our clubs and that live within a 50 miles radius of one of our Clubs will be provided with Official Handicaps that can be used for USGA regulated events.

Using free handicaps from Internet clubs can be tricky business when trying to use your index to play in sanctioned events that require an official USGA handicap.   

http://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/Handicapping/usga-handicap-system-licensing-program-for-clubs-54f48353/additional-definition-of-a-golf-club-decisions.html

 
tommyboy said:
Heron lakes is great. Rose city, Eastmoreland, Wildwood is fun.  If you can play private, try Columbia Edgewater. On the Washington side of the river try three Rivers and camas meadows
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Thanks.  Looks like I'm 10 minutes from Heron Lakes.  Good range and practice facility?  If not, who has the best practice area?

thanks.

 
My daughter started travel softball this year.  So cutting into my golf time.  Same with my new job transfer.  

I'll be lucky to get out 25 times this year

 
Zen Master.  I would say go out and just have a good time.  These tournaments are supposed to be fun...and playing in them is a challenge - to me it's the best way to bring back the feeling of serious athletic competition that you felt when you were a kid.  I hope you shoot a great score as well.  

 
siffoin said:
Zen Master.  I would say go out and just have a good time.  These tournaments are supposed to be fun...and playing in them is a challenge - to me it's the best way to bring back the feeling of serious athletic competition that you felt when you were a kid.  I hope you shoot a great score as well.  
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That's one thing about a properly handicapped tournament - odds are slightly with the better players (as they should be) but a pair of 25s can beat scratches any day. Really makes it fun. 

 
siffoin said:
Zen Master.  I would say go out and just have a good time.  These tournaments are supposed to be fun...and playing in them is a challenge - to me it's the best way to bring back the feeling of serious athletic competition that you felt when you were a kid.  I hope you shoot a great score as well.  
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Thanks Siff, that's my plan. I've never played in a tournament before so it'll be a new experience for me. I'm not looking to win any prizes - unless I get lucky and get closest to the pin on a par 3 - but it'll be a good time on a challenging course.

After the way I played on Sunday, I'm eager to get back out again to see if I can keep it going.

 
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