belljr
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I went the opposite way so we net even LOL
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gump
Footballguy
I definitely thought I had peaked. Turns out that coaching my son and watching fundamentals videos from Tiger, Rory, JT, Bryson, and J Day rubbed off!
Judge Smails
Footballguy
So ball striking has been a mess. I always am a few strokes higher in the winter. Not a cold weather guy (I know - So Cal wuss). Just struggle with ball first contact and low point well in front. Bought bunch of devices. Took some lessons. Just gone more mental trying to get my body, hands etc in certain positions, time with body rotation etc. Too much going on.
Finally clicked in a lesson yesterday. Guy had me doing nothing but Tommy Fleetwood type swings. Full swing but try to stop at impact with the club out front of you. Hit 10 straight baby draws right at the stick. Didn’t have to think or try to get my body in any position. Club can’t get stuck behind. Arms out in front of you. Even works with driver. From that stop position all you do is rehinge and swing is complete.
All about the handle being the fulcrum of the swing and it has to stop to let the club release properly. We talked about the danger of too much info on YouTube. He said if you’re going to watch anyone on YouTube it should be Padraig Harrington. Started going through all his stuff yesterday and it is great. He talks about the Tommy Fleetwood swing hard and stop stuff as being super efficient. He is all about efficiency and speed (they go together) and talks about modern theories vs so many of the methods taught back in the 90’s. Grip, posture, using ground forces, controlling the club face. Covers it all and simplifies. Highly recommend.
Finally clicked in a lesson yesterday. Guy had me doing nothing but Tommy Fleetwood type swings. Full swing but try to stop at impact with the club out front of you. Hit 10 straight baby draws right at the stick. Didn’t have to think or try to get my body in any position. Club can’t get stuck behind. Arms out in front of you. Even works with driver. From that stop position all you do is rehinge and swing is complete.
All about the handle being the fulcrum of the swing and it has to stop to let the club release properly. We talked about the danger of too much info on YouTube. He said if you’re going to watch anyone on YouTube it should be Padraig Harrington. Started going through all his stuff yesterday and it is great. He talks about the Tommy Fleetwood swing hard and stop stuff as being super efficient. He is all about efficiency and speed (they go together) and talks about modern theories vs so many of the methods taught back in the 90’s. Grip, posture, using ground forces, controlling the club face. Covers it all and simplifies. Highly recommend.
Thorn
Footballguy
So I "qualified" for my state's indoor championship. Putting that in quotes since there were 32 spots and only 29 attempted to qualify. But hey, I shot 78 from the tips and I wasn't the worst qualifier.
Soa week from Sunday, I'll play in a semi-fake state championship, goal to make the cut after 18 and play a second 18.
Soa week from Sunday, I'll play in a semi-fake state championship, goal to make the cut after 18 and play a second 18.
belljr
Footballguy
80 today in the cold. Think I figured some stuff out. Replaced my hybrid with a 4iron and it's been stripe city for the most part. Put one to 10ft from 200..... I still hit it poorly on occasion. Did top a 3 wood in the fairway today and got screwed by a slightly pushed 9 iron that Uber plugged in the bunker 3 inches from the lip.
Pulled a bunch of putts today though
Pulled a bunch of putts today though
The Gator
Footballguy
Tied my personal best today with a 93. Drained a 30 foot putt for par and averaged 240 with my driver that I topped out at 268. Had a couple 30 footers that I lagged very well for 2 putts. It was just over 6000 yards and three greens were under maintenance, but overall it was a nice round.
The Gator
Footballguy
Shot 95 yesterday on another new course. Played really well, hit 50% fairways had a birdie on a par 5 that was 8" from an eagle. Putting has been doing really well lately, made two 10 footers and some nice lags again. Had one put from 30' on a par 3 that I aimed 20' to the right of the pin and it dripped straight down towards the hole and settled 2 feet out. That felt good
Zow
Footballguy
Hi hum sober 81. Tomorrow turns it on.
Zow
Footballguy
Flask of whisky before tee off. Double vodka Gatorade front and back.
What's your normal "need a good round" drinking look like? I like a double bloody for the front 9 then a double gin for the turn.
It's not my spinach....yet, just makes me feel better about the bad shots
Thorn
Footballguy
You an afternoon golfer?Flask of whisky before tee off. Double vodka Gatorade front and back.
What's your normal "need a good round" drinking look like? I like a double bloody for the front 9 then a double gin for the turn.
It's not my spinach....yet, just makes me feel better about the bad shots
Zow
Footballguy
Normally, yes.You an afternoon golfer?Flask of whisky before tee off. Double vodka Gatorade front and back.
What's your normal "need a good round" drinking look like? I like a double bloody for the front 9 then a double gin for the turn.
It's not my spinach....yet, just makes me feel better about the bad shots
But the above formula is not specific to a particular tee time. For example, we have the 7:30 AM time tomorrow... but it's 5:00 somewhere!
Instinctive
Footballguy
Playing a nicer course today, range shots all a little fadey but solid. Will report back! 38 degrees. Balmy.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Man. Cold as hell to start, warmed up beautifully, course was in great shape but challenging and really fun to play.
If you took my middle 12 holes, played to a ten or so (7 over). Unfortunately I played the other six holes super bad and finished 20 over lol. First three too cold and bundled up, last three tired because it was a long walk - 15k steps, like 8 miles.
If you took my middle 12 holes, played to a ten or so (7 over). Unfortunately I played the other six holes super bad and finished 20 over lol. First three too cold and bundled up, last three tired because it was a long walk - 15k steps, like 8 miles.
currently on a return flight to home from Waikiki and will hopefully find a way onto a course tomorrow after getting errands done. Time change gonna **** with me but gonna have to power through and get out and hit some balls
Thorn
Footballguy
I made the cut!
I got to the place only a few minutes before "tee" time, and was the last to arrive. I had gone to the simulator place the night before to play a practice round, and when I asked about warming up the next day (email said 9am start), the guy working said "we open at 9, so I'm sure they won't actually start until 9:30." Wrong. I will say, they were nice about it and let me warm up, but it was clear they were pretty much ready to go.
I made an early bogey and then a bad luck double (hooked a tee ball on a long par 3 into a stream that really shouldn't have been in play), but then ripped off a string of pars to be at +3 for a while. I assumed, based on the qualifying scores, that the cut line (top 16) would be around even. So I was playing loose and assuming I wasn't going to make it. We had the slowest group by far (one guy, who ended up DFL, was like a glacier). On 13 or 14, one of the other guys says, "looks like the cut line is going to be +5." I walked around to the live leaderboard and he was correct.
Not sure how I feel about knowing that. It ended up working out, but I did NOT like having it in my head. Made a couple of nervy pars and tried to just go back to playing loose. Then, 16 I chipped in for birdie, and on 17 I stuck a wedge to 4 feet for a "gimme" birdie. Suddenly I'm +1 through 17 and easily in! Had a good look at birdie on the last and made a no-pressure par. Finished +1 73 and the cut line actually moved to +6.
The field was very spread out, the leader at -9 (!). They were only playing the top 5 spots, so after the lunch break, I got to play another round of zero pressure golf. Made 5 birdies but shot 75
to finish solo 14th (73-75, +4). Saw some really impressive players - there was a 2-man playoff at -17 (!!!) and lots of guys bombing 300-yard drives.Anyway a lot of fun, and probably more proud of myself than I should be for fake golf.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Man golf is so mental. The one thing I’ve learned is warm up is just warm up. Almost has zero effect on how I actually play. I’ve hit it pure warming up and slopped it up on the course, and hit it terribly and scored. Yesterday I literally shanked 7 out of 10 irons off of mats (hate em). I put em down, hit some drivers to get the feel of a release and go to the first tee. Result? 5 birdies, 1 over 73. Weird game.
The Gator
Footballguy
Truth.
When I posted I had tied my personal best here, I shanked my last 3-4 shots into the parking lot warming up. Driver went 37 degrees right and almost hit someone. Walked away telling my son “this isn’t going to be good”
Zow
Footballguy
One of my main playing partners and I were discussing the impact of warmups as we have his member guest coming up and we like to set a morning plan/routine. It's a big tournament and each day is a shotgun start so guys will be fighting for the range. My playing partner is a scratch golfer and practices a lot so this is a topic he has looked it. We both realized that each of us have significantly cut down our range time before our rounds. The general consensus we came up with - and this likely pertains to us increasing in age as we are both 41 now - is that the most important thing is that we literally warm our bodies up before the round. Both of us tend to have back tightness issues (with age and dwindling core strengths but trying to maintain a higher swing speeds this is huge) so this upcoming tournament we are going to place much more emphasis on physically feeling good on the first tee as opposed to hitting a bunch of balls on the range. This means cold plunge, hot tub, stretching, foam rolling, swinging with an Orange Whip, etc. pre-round and just hitting a few balls on his sim then rolling to the course maybe 20-30 minutes before tee time.
For me, a lot of my prep is still mental so I focus on ensuring that I'm comfortable mentally when I strike my first shot. This means getting whatever pre-round supplement I intend to take (been doing Magic Mind and Diald as of late), getting some alcohol in me if I'm drinking that day, and, for golf warmup, just finding the face solidly a few shots in a roll, hitting some clean chips, and rolling a few putts to check green speeds that day. For me, this is probably the biggest notable difference because it just snowballs if I don't "feel right" on the first tee, make a bad score, then be in a bad spot mentally until a make a good shot or a birdie or whatever and at that point the round is probably lost.
I am still somewhat torn on the merit of Nicklaus's point about warmups which is to determine which shots (e.g. cut is working but draw isn't) you have going on particular day and then to own that shot. That seems logical to me. But I'm now unconvinced whether it makes sense. At my home course, one of the few negatives is that we do not have a range but, instead, just a hitting net and turf. So, it's impossible to tell which direction you're going. Generally, I'll just hit a few five irons (the club I hit off our first tee) into the net until I find the face and move on. But, for big tournaments, I'll drive to the local range for a "regular" warmup. That said, I think my scores don't vary a whole bunch whether I hit at an actual range or not.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I remember reading an article where Tiger was complaining to his dad that his range session before the round he was about to play wasn't very good. His dad asked him what his goal was for that range session. Tiger's response was something to the effect of, "To warm up." His dad asked, "So are you warmed up?"
Since the answer was yes, Tiger didn't worry about the range and played lights out in the actual round IIRC.
Moral of the story, I think, is that there's a world of difference between warm up versus practice sessions on the range.
Since the answer was yes, Tiger didn't worry about the range and played lights out in the actual round IIRC.
Moral of the story, I think, is that there's a world of difference between warm up versus practice sessions on the range.
Zow
Footballguy
100% agree with the bold. I think for a lot of guys though - oftentimes myself included - they just don't have availability for true practice sessions so the pre-round range is it. That said, I shake my head whenever I see somebody working on some new thing on the range before the round.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
For me, other than warming up I use it to remind myself of the minutiae that I forget in-between rounds; specifically for me it's how slightly different my grip is between woods and irons (stronger for irons, more neutral for woods) and especially tempo. I'm usually too excited to play and I end up rushing my swing until I get a few holes into the round - so on the range I try to settle that down and get the tempo right.
TLEF316
Footballguy
As far as warmups......I tend to get to my rounds pretty early and hit a lot of balls (was certainly the case last year as I was just trying to find ANY sort of consistency with the driver)
Other than times when my back is really acting up (a few times a year) it generally doesn't take me too long to physically shake out the cobwebs (I play full court basketball games after a pretty half-assed 2 min stretching routine. Probably not wise as I pass into my 40's). 4 or 5 swings and I'm generally good to go.
I also dont find too much correlation between good range performance and good round performance(probably because so much of scoring depends on chipping and putting, which I rarely do before going onto the first tee box). But I will say that if I have a REALLY bad warmup....it does basically kill all my confidence.
So Maybe I just shouldnt warm up at all. Who the hell knows.
Other than times when my back is really acting up (a few times a year) it generally doesn't take me too long to physically shake out the cobwebs (I play full court basketball games after a pretty half-assed 2 min stretching routine. Probably not wise as I pass into my 40's). 4 or 5 swings and I'm generally good to go.
I also dont find too much correlation between good range performance and good round performance(probably because so much of scoring depends on chipping and putting, which I rarely do before going onto the first tee box). But I will say that if I have a REALLY bad warmup....it does basically kill all my confidence.
So Maybe I just shouldnt warm up at all. Who the hell knows.
CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
I like to hit 15-20 balls to loosen up and get a little feel, usually 3-4 9 irons, 7 irons and 5 wood and then maybe a few drivers. I almost exclusively play in the morning so my goal is to be there in enough time to get a few swings in and find out if I'm going to have to drop a deuce before the round. Once I know my stomach is good then I'm good to go, getting old sucks. Playing saturday and sunday for the first time in 5 weeks, hit a few balls into a field the other day but otherwise I'm hoping that all my bad habits are gone!
WDIK2
Footballguy
My local course in northeast Nebraska sent out an email basically saying, "We could go into technical details as to why opening this weekend would be bad for the grass, instead we'll just say we're opening in 2 weeks."The goal was for our course to open (At least the back 9, as it dries/thaws faster) tomorrow. But the crappy weather in NJ lasted like a week too long for that to happen. Supposed to high 50's tomorrow, but they're not ready yet
Zow
Footballguy
Everyday
New Binky the Doormat
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
So what's the problem?
Zow
Footballguy
On a Friday?
"A bad day on the golf course is still better than a good day at the office."
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Up until I turned 45 or so I Used to get to the course 2 minutes before tee time and go at it.,
I totally changed my warm up. Instead of hitting balls I do a 10 minute stretch routine in the parking lot including hips, lower back and hamstrings, then 5 minutes with my Orange Whip for chest and shoulders. Only swings I take are with the Orange Whip and 3-4 minutes of putting on the practice green.
Been playing so much better right from the start.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
2 things I’m religious about pre round. 1) stretching. Full floor routine, hamstrings, core. Also do some stretching with the big Golf Forever weighted stick and practice making full turns. 2) putting. Even if I only have a few minutes I putt. 3 5 footers. 3 15 footers. Then 3 uphill 30 footers and 3 downhill lags to get speed.
Putting is the one thing where warm up matters to me. If I’m not rolling it on my line with the right speed pre round I rarely find it during the round.
I never practice chips or bunkers before the round. Can usually just go with feel
Putting is the one thing where warm up matters to me. If I’m not rolling it on my line with the right speed pre round I rarely find it during the round.
I never practice chips or bunkers before the round. Can usually just go with feel
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Nice - need to get back to Hunter Ranch
CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
welp tagged a tree off the tee and it dropped in bushy hazard area and decided a hero shot instead of taking an unplayable. proceeded to not get enough height and made a bad situation worse. Then took an unplayable and got to a decent spot to smoke a 5 wood to about 100 yards where in i put my next shot into the water trying to get cute and hit it close to have a putt at double. put my 8th way deep and 2 putted. Fun times going from +4 after 8 to +9 at the turn.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Re-gripped a few clubs on my own for the first time. Messy process. I think I got it right - the hard part is feeling like you've got it aligned correctly.
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