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Devers is really killing it in his new role as the DH. 0-12 with 10 strikeouts.
I've never seen an MLB hitter look as bad as he does right now. 0-16 with 12 strikeouts. :loco:

Mad at losing his job.

He has 313,500,000 guaranteed reasons to not be upset.

Jonathan Papelbon hinted that he was overweight and out of shape on NESN post-game. Gotta love Boston media, but when former players are kicking dirt on your grave it’s gotten bad.

The season just started. I mean, this is a quick crisis, no?
 
The business stuff is boring to read about and pointless to worry about because none of us (except maybe Instinctive) are stakeholders. It'll suck when there's a lockout in 2027 but I'll come back when the games resume just as people have after previous work stoppages.

When the dust settles, the Yankees and Dodgers will be good and the Pirates probably won't be and baseball will still be the best sport to watch in person.

It would matter if we’d formed that fans’ union that wikkid wanted back in the seventies/eighties. And we sure as **** wouldn’t have been boring with him as our founder. Take care of the stakeholder and the passive fan helplessness all at once.
 
Jonathan Papelbon hinted that he was overweight and out of shape on NESN post-game. Gotta love Boston media, but when former players are kicking dirt on your grave it’s gotten bad.

The season just started. I mean, this is a quick crisis, no?

Pap was always in peak condition himself.

It's an 0-12. Devers has been extremely consistent over his career and his shoulders seem OK :shrug:
 
Jonathan Papelbon hinted that he was overweight and out of shape on NESN post-game. Gotta love Boston media, but when former players are kicking dirt on your grave it’s gotten bad.

The season just started. I mean, this is a quick crisis, no?

Pap was always in peak condition himself.

It's an 0-12. Devers has been extremely consistent over his career and his shoulders seem OK :shrug:

Yep. I don’t think it’s a big deal, and I usually get spooked or follow the narrative. But this is just a bad four-game set, and you move on to play again tomorrow in Baltimore. Day game. Camden. What’s not to like?
 
Jonathan Papelbon hinted that he was overweight and out of shape on NESN post-game. Gotta love Boston media, but when former players are kicking dirt on your grave it’s gotten bad.

The season just started. I mean, this is a quick crisis, no?

Pap was always in peak condition himself.

It's an 0-12. Devers has been extremely consistent over his career and his shoulders seem OK :shrug:

Yep. I don’t think it’s a big deal, and I usually get spooked or follow the narrative. But this is just a bad four-game set, and you move on to play again tomorrow in Baltimore. Day game. Camden. What’s not to like?

I don’t know. He looks like something’s wrong. Swing speed is down, his stance looks all jacked up.
 
Jonathan Papelbon hinted that he was overweight and out of shape on NESN post-game. Gotta love Boston media, but when former players are kicking dirt on your grave it’s gotten bad.

The season just started. I mean, this is a quick crisis, no?

Pap was always in peak condition himself.

It's an 0-12. Devers has been extremely consistent over his career and his shoulders seem OK :shrug:

Yep. I don’t think it’s a big deal, and I usually get spooked or follow the narrative. But this is just a bad four-game set, and you move on to play again tomorrow in Baltimore. Day game. Camden. What’s not to like?

I don’t know. He looks like something’s wrong. Swing speed is down, his stance looks all jacked up.

His stance is wicked exaggerated compared to years past, but I chalked it up to trying something coming out of spring training,

Looks like he’s got a horizontal leg kick and his timing is all off.
 
Jonathan Papelbon hinted that he was overweight and out of shape on NESN post-game. Gotta love Boston media, but when former players are kicking dirt on your grave it’s gotten bad.

The season just started. I mean, this is a quick crisis, no?

Pap was always in peak condition himself.

It's an 0-12. Devers has been extremely consistent over his career and his shoulders seem OK :shrug:

An 0-12 in July and nobody bats an eye. It happens to almost every player every year at some point in the season.
 
Jonathan Papelbon hinted that he was overweight and out of shape on NESN post-game. Gotta love Boston media, but when former players are kicking dirt on your grave it’s gotten bad.

The season just started. I mean, this is a quick crisis, no?

Pap was always in peak condition himself.

It's an 0-12. Devers has been extremely consistent over his career and his shoulders seem OK :shrug:

An 0-12 in July and nobody bats an eye. It happens to almost every player every year at some point in the season.

Yep. It’s a whole media-created controversy about a mini-slump that is coinciding with the newness of the real issue of having a $313,500,000M franchise player who wants to play the field and is unhappy he’s been sort of demoted to DH.
 
Jonathan Papelbon hinted that he was overweight and out of shape on NESN post-game. Gotta love Boston media, but when former players are kicking dirt on your grave it’s gotten bad.

The season just started. I mean, this is a quick crisis, no?

Pap was always in peak condition himself.

It's an 0-12. Devers has been extremely consistent over his career and his shoulders seem OK :shrug:

An 0-12 in July and nobody bats an eye. It happens to almost every player every year at some point in the season.
It’s not the 0-12……which is now 0-16. It’s the 12 strikeouts that’s going along with it.
 
Jonathan Papelbon hinted that he was overweight and out of shape on NESN post-game. Gotta love Boston media, but when former players are kicking dirt on your grave it’s gotten bad.

The season just started. I mean, this is a quick crisis, no?

Pap was always in peak condition himself.

It's an 0-12. Devers has been extremely consistent over his career and his shoulders seem OK :shrug:

An 0-12 in July and nobody bats an eye. It happens to almost every player every year at some point in the season.
It’s not the 0-12……which is now 0-16. It’s the 12 strikeouts that’s going along with it.
Exactly. This isn't a garden variety 0-16. He looks like he's completely lost.
 
Every now and again, the Rangers, Royals, Nats win a world series. Sometimes having the most payroll isn't a winning strategy. See the Mets, NY.

The Rangers were $20M over the luxury tax threshold the year they won. They also had the highest paid manager at the time.

Rangers a bad example then.

But as a lifelong suffering fan, it just feels good to type it every now and again.
 
Devers is really killing it in his new role as the DH. 0-12 with 10 strikeouts.
I've never seen an MLB hitter look as bad as he does right now. 0-16 with 12 strikeouts. :loco:

Mad at losing his job.

He has 313,500,000 guaranteed reasons to not be upset.

Jonathan Papelbon hinted that he was overweight and out of shape on NESN post-game. Gotta love Boston media, but when former players are kicking dirt on your grave it’s gotten bad.

The season just started. I mean, this is a quick crisis, no?

I don't follow the team closely, only know I blew an early round pick on Devers in fantasy and while I'm not overly worried about this bad start and think he'll be fine, he was awfully pouty about losing his 3B job to Bregman.

Is it bothering him? I don't know. Baseball players are different cats, man.
 
Jonathan Papelbon hinted that he was overweight and out of shape on NESN post-game. Gotta love Boston media, but when former players are kicking dirt on your grave it’s gotten bad.

The season just started. I mean, this is a quick crisis, no?

Pap was always in peak condition himself.

It's an 0-12. Devers has been extremely consistent over his career and his shoulders seem OK :shrug:

An 0-12 in July and nobody bats an eye. It happens to almost every player every year at some point in the season.
It’s not the 0-12……which is now 0-16. It’s the 12 strikeouts that’s going along with it.
It's also essentially his spring training as he missed most of it with his shoulder injuries.

Maybe he needs to go to extended spring training and get some work in.

(I am sure that would go over well....hahhaha)
 
I can’t work up any hate for the Dodgers and their payroll. Educate me about its dirtiness. Something smells funny, but who can hate Shohei, Mookie, and Freddie?

Plus, they beat the Yankees last year. Seems A-Ok to me to defer hundreds of millions in salary (or whatever the figure is) and outspend everybody by a gobsmacking amount of money.
Every team can do the same if they choose to
In the same way every team in baseball could when the Yankee’s were doing it in the early 2000’s. Doesn’t mean it’s good for baseball, especially as the sports popularity continues to wane. Salary cap seems like the easy answer to me and works in other sports.

Salary cap would cause the longest work stoppage ever and the dwindling fan base might never come back (once they experience the thrill of YouTube E-sports!)

I kid. Having the Dodgers is good for baseball. Bad for San Diego’s competitive aspirations, but the brand is good because non-diehards like myself know the players (look, it’s Mookie! Hey, Mookie!) and it draws the populace in, a populace unconcerned with the plight of the teams in the state of CA who are two hours south or a bit further up north.

Nobody cares about that. Dynasties and super teams draw the eyeballs of the Average Joes, and that’s what MLB needs.
I read the other day that a lockout next year is almost a certainty.

It would be the year after that.

The current CBA runs through the end of 2026
What are the owners looking for? A cap?
No doubt and IMO they need a minimum floor that needs to be spent on payroll. The Pirates and Marlins of the world need to attempt to compete and stop being a farm system for the Dodgers, Red Sox, Mets, Yankees and Phillies.
 
The business stuff is boring to read about and pointless to worry about because none of us (except maybe Instinctive) are stakeholders. It'll suck when there's a lockout in 2027 but I'll come back when the games resume just as people have after previous work stoppages.

When the dust settles, the Yankees and Dodgers will be good and the Pirates probably won't be and baseball will still be the best sport to watch in person.

Every now and again, the Rangers, Royals, Nats win a world series. Sometimes having the most payroll isn't a winning strategy. See the Mets, NY.
Agreed.....but the lack of spending by more than half the league needs to be addressed.

I love baseball...live, sleep ,eat and breathe it.....things need to change in the payroll front or the league will die eventually.

They have made strides with the pitch clock and soon the ABS system (I support it after seeing it in action in spring training....it's great). They gotta get the financial house in order so we see a far more competitive league year in and year out. Guard Rails need to go into place.
 
I'm fine with a salary cap and as others have said, I think a floor needs to be in place as well. If owners are unwilling to meet the floor, force them to sell. John Fisher has no place in professional sports.
 
Red Sox should just put a cardboard cutout up there in place of Devers…….same difference. 0-19, 15 strikeouts.

One more day and I’m officially worried. The narrative is relentless on me. It works on me like a canyon going through a rapid erosion period.

Narrative, I submit to thee. I’m almost worried!
 
I've had some really bad starts to fantasy baseball, but this start definitely takes the cake for futility. And this is WITH Aaron Judge. :bag:

Gawd.....
It's early....

My team:

Rafael Devers - 20 AB, 16 Ks, zero production

Trae Turner - dead

Juricson Profar - suspended 80 games for Katamine

Max Scherzer - dead

But at least it's early!
 
Saw Devers in a post game interview and I'm not trying to be mean but I don't think he could pass Joe Bryant's fitness test. And I'm not kidding. I've seen less bloat at an Insane Clown Posse concert.

He’s been a little doughy for a while but it does look like he’s put on an additional 10-15, particularly around his waistline. Not a big deal if he’s hitting but becomes more of a focus if he’s not. Plenty of top hitters have been “thick” in the past (Gwynn, Fielder,Puckett, Ortiz etc) so not sure that even has anything to do with it. His pre swing stance just looks crazy odd. His right foot is now outside the batters box. So much movement just to get into position to hit.
 
Saw Devers in a post game interview and I'm not trying to be mean but I don't think he could pass Joe Bryant's fitness test. And I'm not kidding. I've seen less bloat at an Insane Clown Posse concert.

He’s been a little doughy for a while but it does look like he’s put on an additional 10-15, particularly around his waistline. Not a big deal if he’s hitting but becomes more of a focus if he’s not. Plenty of top hitters have been “thick” in the past (Gwynn, Fielder,Puckett, Ortiz etc) so not sure that even has anything to do with it. His pre swing stance just looks crazy odd. His right foot is now outside the batters box. So much movement just to get into position to hit.

All those guys you listed retired long ago and 2 are dead. I realize physique isn't everything but in this day and age with sports' science and nutrition being where they are, Devers' looks out of place with his current bloat.

Maybe it's his swing maybe it's his shoulder maybe it's just a slump but that interview today was telling. He's fat, disinterested and pouting about losing his job. That's my read.
 
Good thing the Red Sox didn't attempt to sign Mookie because we couldn't pay both Mookie and Devers. That worked out well, huh? Holy cow. I can't really tell if he's doughy and fat nor do I know if he's pouting about not playing third, but man, if he is I'll just say I can't relate to modern baseball players in the least.

I guess separating monetary concerns from the enjoyment of the product and taking the business side out of any fan analysis is better for the fan's state of mind and enjoyment (it puts one's concentrations on enjoying what is beautiful about the game rather than what is mercenarial, excessive, and ruined by ego), but it's awfully hard to do that in this case because the amounts we're talking about are probably akin to certain countries' entire operating budgets for the ten fiscal years that Devers has signed his $313,500,000M contract for.

I could give him a pro tip on how to approach the media and talk to them, but that would probably be unwelcome and he'd rather show the surly and confused side of himself that conveys his displeasure at moving positions and allows us to see his chagrined emotional state and negotiating posture therefrom (play me at third or trade me?).

Jesus, I have so much to say to that, but I ain't paying the bills and I ain't on the field. wikkid, come back. That fan unionization thing doesn't sound nearly as ridiculous.
 
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