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I'm sorry, but I need to make my Dave Roberts rant.

This guy is the worst manager in baseball. Yes, he has eleven division titles in 12 years and two* world series titles as a manager. But it's because of the talent, not his managing.
They've won despite him, and should have wone more. He used to just make terrible decisions with his pitching staff, but over the last few years he's decided to make awful decisions regarding his lineup as well. He quits on games, schedules planned losses, and refuses field his best players on a day to day basis. Michael Conforto is statistically the worst player in the MLB, and he let him strike out with the bases loaded today with Will Smith on the bench (2nd best average with RISP in the NL).

I bleed Dodgers blue, but if them missing the playoffs will get him fired this year I'm willing to take it.

He and Prior need to go.

I thought that about the Red Sox for years but never wanted to fire Francona. I began to realize that everything you describe (and the similarities are striking, especially treating getaway days like doubleheaders) might be a front office management thing and that there’s more behind the scenes than they let on or tell fans. That’s exactly how they managed the Sox with Theo as their GM. It ended when Theo left. I’m thinking it was coordinated.

I could be wrong, but when Kevin Cash is pulling Snell in the sixth game of the WS (against you guys) when he’s cruising but Cash doesn’t want him going a third time through the order, it’s likely a pact he has with the stat guys in the front office. I don’t know.

Perhaps I give too much credit to the FO guys and what they’re trying to do, but insider and sourced accounts of the Sox say they were calling Terry Francona “Francoma” because he wasn’t in lockstep with everything, which, after Grady Little was a vast improvement that they should have been thrilled with. Prior has a front office background so it is possible he is the FO on the field.

Anyway, just a thought. Vent away.
 
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I'm sorry, but I need to make my Dave Roberts rant.

This guy is the worst manager in baseball. Yes, he has eleven division titles in 12 years and two* world series titles as a manager. But it's because of the talent, not his managing.
They've won despite him, and should have wone more. He used to just make terrible decisions with his pitching staff, but over the last few years he's decided to make awful decisions regarding his lineup as well. He quits on games, schedules planned losses, and refuses field his best players on a day to day basis. Michael Conforto is statistically the worst player in the MLB, and he let him strike out with the bases loaded today with Will Smith on the bench (2nd best average with RISP in the NL).

I bleed Dodgers blue, but if them missing the playoffs will get him fired this year I'm willing to take it.

He and Prior need to go.
I’m glad I’m not the only one
 
The Brewers are on an epic run, brochacos. They wore down Paul Skenes tonight--90+ pitches in four innings, and then went medieval on the Pirates bullpen.

In his last two starts against the Brewers he’s got the same line — 4 earned runs in 4 innings pitched for two Ls.

They won 7 straight going into the all-star break and are 19-4 since.
As a Brewer fan this is the most exciting team in perhaps franchise history. You keep thinking they can't continue this pace, and then they go ahead and do it. But I can't get last year's heartbreaking loss in the playoffs out of the back of my mind. That's how bad that one hurt. But this year we have Ueker's angel in the outfield looking out for us.

Wouldn't that be the most Bob Ueker thing - the Brewer's win the WS the season after he passes.
 
The Brewers are on an epic run, brochacos. They wore down Paul Skenes tonight--90+ pitches in four innings, and then went medieval on the Pirates bullpen.

In his last two starts against the Brewers he’s got the same line — 4 earned runs in 4 innings pitched for two Ls.

They won 7 straight going into the all-star break and are 19-4 since.
As a Brewer fan this is the most exciting team in perhaps franchise history. You keep thinking they can't continue this pace, and then they go ahead and do it. But I can't get last year's heartbreaking loss in the playoffs out of the back of my mind. That's how bad that one hurt. But this year we have Ueker's angel in the outfield looking out for us.

Wouldn't that be the most Bob Ueker thing - the Brewer's win the WS the season after he passes.
I think they continue the streak. Not the current wining streak, the streak of never winning a World Series.
Zero World Series wins ever. One of only 5 teams to have never won it.
Enjoy your meaningless regular season wins.

Sincerely,

Fans of every other team that's won (at least) one.
 
The Brewers are on an epic run, brochacos. They wore down Paul Skenes tonight--90+ pitches in four innings, and then went medieval on the Pirates bullpen.

In his last two starts against the Brewers he’s got the same line — 4 earned runs in 4 innings pitched for two Ls.

They won 7 straight going into the all-star break and are 19-4 since.
As a Brewer fan this is the most exciting team in perhaps franchise history. You keep thinking they can't continue this pace, and then they go ahead and do it. But I can't get last year's heartbreaking loss in the playoffs out of the back of my mind. That's how bad that one hurt. But this year we have Ueker's angel in the outfield looking out for us.

Wouldn't that be the most Bob Ueker thing - the Brewer's win the WS the season after he passes.
I watched a video post on twitter (Bart Winkler) the comment was, "the Brewers didn't make a deal with the devil, Uecker made a deal with God."
 
The Brewers are on an epic run, brochacos. They wore down Paul Skenes tonight--90+ pitches in four innings, and then went medieval on the Pirates bullpen.

In his last two starts against the Brewers he’s got the same line — 4 earned runs in 4 innings pitched for two Ls.

They won 7 straight going into the all-star break and are 19-4 since.
As a Brewer fan this is the most exciting team in perhaps franchise history. You keep thinking they can't continue this pace, and then they go ahead and do it. But I can't get last year's heartbreaking loss in the playoffs out of the back of my mind. That's how bad that one hurt. But this year we have Ueker's angel in the outfield looking out for us.

Wouldn't that be the most Bob Ueker thing - the Brewer's win the WS the season after he passes.
I think they continue the streak. Not the current wining streak, the streak of never winning a World Series.
Zero World Series wins ever. One of only 5 teams to have never won it.
Enjoy your meaningless regular season wins.

Sincerely,

Fans of every other team that's won (at least) one.

Wow. That is harsh. Look on the bright side. You guys had Sister Sledge and you just had Mac Miller bobblehead night!
 
The Brewers are on an epic run, brochacos. They wore down Paul Skenes tonight--90+ pitches in four innings, and then went medieval on the Pirates bullpen.

In his last two starts against the Brewers he’s got the same line — 4 earned runs in 4 innings pitched for two Ls.

They won 7 straight going into the all-star break and are 19-4 since.
As a Brewer fan this is the most exciting team in perhaps franchise history. You keep thinking they can't continue this pace, and then they go ahead and do it. But I can't get last year's heartbreaking loss in the playoffs out of the back of my mind. That's how bad that one hurt. But this year we have Ueker's angel in the outfield looking out for us.

Wouldn't that be the most Bob Ueker thing - the Brewer's win the WS the season after he passes.
I think they continue the streak. Not the current wining streak, the streak of never winning a World Series.
Zero World Series wins ever. One of only 5 teams to have never won it.
Enjoy your meaningless regular season wins.

Sincerely,

Fans of every other team that's won (at least) one.

Wow. That is harsh. Look on the bright side. You guys had Sister Sledge and you just had Mac Miller bobblehead night!
Yeah, I apologize. I went off the deep end on that one.

I really don't think I'd trade all of the WS championships for hope right now. We have none.
 
The Brewers are on an epic run, brochacos. They wore down Paul Skenes tonight--90+ pitches in four innings, and then went medieval on the Pirates bullpen.

In his last two starts against the Brewers he’s got the same line — 4 earned runs in 4 innings pitched for two Ls.

They won 7 straight going into the all-star break and are 19-4 since.
As a Brewer fan this is the most exciting team in perhaps franchise history. You keep thinking they can't continue this pace, and then they go ahead and do it. But I can't get last year's heartbreaking loss in the playoffs out of the back of my mind. That's how bad that one hurt. But this year we have Ueker's angel in the outfield looking out for us.

Wouldn't that be the most Bob Ueker thing - the Brewer's win the WS the season after he passes.
I think they continue the streak. Not the current wining streak, the streak of never winning a World Series.
Zero World Series wins ever. One of only 5 teams to have never won it.
Enjoy your meaningless regular season wins.

Sincerely,

Fans of every other team that's won (at least) one.

Wow. That is harsh. Look on the bright side. You guys had Sister Sledge and you just had Mac Miller bobblehead night!
Yeah, I apologize. I went off the deep end on that one.

I really don't think I'd trade all of the WS championships for hope right now. We have none.

Oh, you’re alright. I don’t know. I remember the depths of Oct. 2003, and telling some girl who was cheering stupidly for the Yankees (with that two-toned hair that was popular back then), and who I’d heard vocally expressing knowing nothing about baseball all night in this diehard Springfield, MA, Red Sox bar to take her skunk *** hair back to Westchester or shut the **** up to loud cheers for saying it—and I realized that I was way too serious and needed a break—especially as I’m consoling this guy Adam who is clearly an alcoholic (like me only I don’t know it yet), and he’s crying and I’m talking him down calmly and I’m beginning to think we had (and I had) lost some perspective in my 30th year on earth and where the hell was I and why?

And I sort of readjusted my priorities but it would take at least another decade and then some to really right the ship.

What I’m saying is you barely scratched the surface of being off the deep end unless of course you feel that way. No big deal.
 
Boy, they need the strike zone challenge. I know we're used to it as baseball fans, but Angels/Dodgers were tied at 6-6 in the bottom of the ninth with the bases loaded and two out. The count goes to 3-0 and then the pitcher throws a ball that is half a foot (eh, four inches but clearly) off the plate and the ump gives him the courtesy strike. So the pitcher takes a breath and tosses another strike (taken), and then the Angels hitter swings and misses with the count 3-2. Strikeout.

Game should have been over with ball four on 3-0. Not very good. I had turned to the people next to me after the third ball, which wasn't that close and said, "he's not getting that call on 3-0," and sure enough, he didn't. On to the 10th. With a runner on second. Awesome rulez and unwritten rulez, guys.

I mean, as soon as you start with the ghost man on second, you ought to officiate it to the letter to try and avoid that sort of arbitrary situation.
I was watching that too. Horrific call. And, as you know, it happens all the time.

I really hope they implement the strike zone challenge next season. I haven’t watched any AAA ball this season so I don’t know how it’s been working at that level. Since I assume teams will only be allowed 2 or 3 wrong challenges per game, it will make for some interesting strategies on how teams utilize it—-like which players can use it and when and under what circumstances.
 
Boy, they need the strike zone challenge. I know we're used to it as baseball fans, but Angels/Dodgers were tied at 6-6 in the bottom of the ninth with the bases loaded and two out. The count goes to 3-0 and then the pitcher throws a ball that is half a foot (eh, four inches but clearly) off the plate and the ump gives him the courtesy strike. So the pitcher takes a breath and tosses another strike (taken), and then the Angels hitter swings and misses with the count 3-2. Strikeout.

Game should have been over with ball four on 3-0. Not very good. I had turned to the people next to me after the third ball, which wasn't that close and said, "he's not getting that call on 3-0," and sure enough, he didn't. On to the 10th. With a runner on second. Awesome rulez and unwritten rulez, guys.

I mean, as soon as you start with the ghost man on second, you ought to officiate it to the letter to try and avoid that sort of arbitrary situation.
I was watching that too. Horrific call. And, as you know, it happens all the time.

I really hope they implement the strike zone challenge next season. I haven’t watched any AAA ball this season so I don’t know how it’s been working at that level. Since I assume teams will only be allowed 2 or 3 wrong challenges per game, it will make for some interesting strategies on how teams utilize it—-like which players can use it and when and under what circumstances.

Did you see the All-Star Game? Smooth as butter (I was half-watching) and I think they nailed every challenge. It’s going to be really interesting when and how they use it.
 
Boy, they need the strike zone challenge. I know we're used to it as baseball fans, but Angels/Dodgers were tied at 6-6 in the bottom of the ninth with the bases loaded and two out. The count goes to 3-0 and then the pitcher throws a ball that is half a foot (eh, four inches but clearly) off the plate and the ump gives him the courtesy strike. So the pitcher takes a breath and tosses another strike (taken), and then the Angels hitter swings and misses with the count 3-2. Strikeout.

Game should have been over with ball four on 3-0. Not very good. I had turned to the people next to me after the third ball, which wasn't that close and said, "he's not getting that call on 3-0," and sure enough, he didn't. On to the 10th. With a runner on second. Awesome rulez and unwritten rulez, guys.

I mean, as soon as you start with the ghost man on second, you ought to officiate it to the letter to try and avoid that sort of arbitrary situation.
I was watching that too. Horrific call. And, as you know, it happens all the time.

I really hope they implement the strike zone challenge next season. I haven’t watched any AAA ball this season so I don’t know how it’s been working at that level. Since I assume teams will only be allowed 2 or 3 wrong challenges per game, it will make for some interesting strategies on how teams utilize it—-like which players can use it and when and under what circumstances.

Did you see the All-Star Game? Smooth as butter (I was half-watching) and I think they nailed every challenge. It’s going to be really interesting when and how they use it.
Yes. And I agree. It worked very efficiently.
 
The Brewers are on an epic run, brochacos. They wore down Paul Skenes tonight--90+ pitches in four innings, and then went medieval on the Pirates bullpen.

In his last two starts against the Brewers he’s got the same line — 4 earned runs in 4 innings pitched for two Ls.
Welcome to Milwaukee Brewers baseball.
This forum site needs an entire page dedicated to Brewers baseball. Discussions on current team, loaded minor league system, historical Brewer figures like Joey Meyer and Pete Ladd, etc.

All joking aside the current run is fun to watch.
 
I really hope they implement the strike zone challenge next season. I haven’t watched any AAA ball this season so I don’t know how it’s been working at that level. Since I assume teams will only be allowed 2 or 3 wrong challenges per game, it will make for some interesting strategies on how teams utilize it—-like which players can use it and when and under what circumstances.
Actually unlimited challenges as long as you don't lose more than one challenge. So use them wisely. ⚾ ⚾
 
I really hope they implement the strike zone challenge next season. I haven’t watched any AAA ball this season so I don’t know how it’s been working at that level. Since I assume teams will only be allowed 2 or 3 wrong challenges per game, it will make for some interesting strategies on how teams utilize it—-like which players can use it and when and under what circumstances.
Actually unlimited challenges as long as you don't lose more than one challenge. So use them wisely. ⚾ ⚾
I don't mind them going to the challenge system as it seems to be very seamless and works quickly. I don't want to go to robo ump only. I think that would lead to just as much frustration as there are unhittable pitches that just flick the strike zone that would be called and pitchers will learn to take advantage. I think that would be bad for the overall game.
 
The Brewers are on an epic run, brochacos. They wore down Paul Skenes tonight--90+ pitches in four innings, and then went medieval on the Pirates bullpen.

In his last two starts against the Brewers he’s got the same line — 4 earned runs in 4 innings pitched for two Ls.

They won 7 straight going into the all-star break and are 19-4 since.
As a Brewer fan this is the most exciting team in perhaps franchise history. You keep thinking they can't continue this pace, and then they go ahead and do it. But I can't get last year's heartbreaking loss in the playoffs out of the back of my mind. That's how bad that one hurt. But this year we have Ueker's angel in the outfield looking out for us.

Wouldn't that be the most Bob Ueker thing - the Brewer's win the WS the season after he passes.

Last year was harsh but the prior year was even worse for me. Three of the last four seasons finishing first in the Central then bowing out weakly in the playoffs is getting old. I'm having a great time this summer though and getting in quite a few games. The vibe at the park has been awesome. For better or worse, as of a month ago I now qualify for half-price weekday tickets. But I still have no confidence whatsoever for October.
 
The Brewers are on an epic run, brochacos. They wore down Paul Skenes tonight--90+ pitches in four innings, and then went medieval on the Pirates bullpen.

In his last two starts against the Brewers he’s got the same line — 4 earned runs in 4 innings pitched for two Ls.

They won 7 straight going into the all-star break and are 19-4 since.
As a Brewer fan this is the most exciting team in perhaps franchise history. You keep thinking they can't continue this pace, and then they go ahead and do it. But I can't get last year's heartbreaking loss in the playoffs out of the back of my mind. That's how bad that one hurt. But this year we have Ueker's angel in the outfield looking out for us.

Wouldn't that be the most Bob Ueker thing - the Brewer's win the WS the season after he passes.
Removing Devin Williams from the equation changes everything.

This team is damn near like the 2015 Royals. And now living up in the northwoods it's cool to see it on the front lines.

Rooting for you guys to finally get one.
 
And now the Pohlads say they won't be selling the Twins but instead are adding some minority stakeholders. Way to blow up the team for nothing

The one thing to look forward to after the fire sale was the possibility that the team would be sold before the offseason and now they ripped that away from us as well. I hate to see what this team is going to look like next year. I have a feeling that one or both of Ryan/Lopez will not be on the team.
 
I'm sorry, but I need to make my Dave Roberts rant.

This guy is the worst manager in baseball. Yes, he has eleven division titles in 12 years and two* world series titles as a manager. But it's because of the talent, not his managing.
They've won despite him, and should have wone more. He used to just make terrible decisions with his pitching staff, but over the last few years he's decided to make awful decisions regarding his lineup as well. He quits on games, schedules planned losses, and refuses field his best players on a day to day basis. Michael Conforto is statistically the worst player in the MLB, and he let him strike out with the bases loaded today with Will Smith on the bench (2nd best average with RISP in the NL).

I bleed Dodgers blue, but if them missing the playoffs will get him fired this year I'm willing to take it.

He and Prior need to go.

I thought that about the Red Sox for years but never wanted to fire Francona. I began to realize that everything you describe (and the similarities are striking, especially treating getaway days like doubleheaders) might be a front office management thing and that there’s more behind the scenes than they let on or tell fans. That’s exactly how they managed the Sox with Theo as their GM. It ended when Theo left. I’m thinking it was coordinated.

I could be wrong, but when Kevin Cash is pulling Snell in the sixth game of the WS (against you guys) when he’s cruising but Cash doesn’t want him going a third time through the order, it’s likely a pact he has with the stat guys in the front office. I don’t know.

Perhaps I give too much credit to the FO guys and what they’re trying to do, but insider and sourced accounts of the Sox say they were calling Terry Francona “Francoma” because he wasn’t in lockstep with everything, which, after Grady Little was a vast improvement that they should have been thrilled with. Prior has a front office background so it is possible he is the FO on the field.

Anyway, just a thought. Vent away.
Roberts has confirmed that although the analytics guys provide recommendations, lineup decisions are his.
 
Dodgers have no bullpen. Swept by the Angels in the season series for the first time. Muncy hurt again. This team has to get healthy fast, and Roberts needs to step up and make some decisions based on performance and not hoping that players will come around.
 
Some updated future odds:

NL
Dodgers +375
Phillies +600
Brewers +800
Padres +1200
Cubs +1600 (that's tasty)
Mets +1650 (Free Fallin')
Reds +10000 (Do you believe?)

Rest are too long to bother with....

AL
(Some surprises here, IMO)
Seattle +900
Detroit +1000
Toronto +1100 (Did anybody in here see this one coming?)
Yankees +1200 (Rotten Apple)
Astros +1400 (I don't hate this)
Boston +2000 (I bet even Roc is saying "Hard Pass" here but 20-1 is nice)
Cleveland +10000 (only a game back of the Yanks for the final WC spot currently)

Biggest surprises this year - Toronto, Milwaukie and the Cubs. Detroit made the playoffs last year, but they took a leap forward.
Biggest disappointments this year - Atlanta and Baltimore, with Texas getting an honorable mention.
 
Toronto +1100 (Did anybody in here see this one coming?)
As a Jays fan I can say that I certainly didn't. I thought they were going to be worse than last year. They have contributions from so many guys that I (and likely most people) didn't expect - Barger, Clement, Lauer, Lukes, etc. Seems a different guy steps up every night ad it's usually not Vladdy. Good times!
 
I'm sorry, but I need to make my Dave Roberts rant.

This guy is the worst manager in baseball. Yes, he has eleven division titles in 12 years and two* world series titles as a manager. But it's because of the talent, not his managing.
They've won despite him, and should have wone more. He used to just make terrible decisions with his pitching staff, but over the last few years he's decided to make awful decisions regarding his lineup as well. He quits on games, schedules planned losses, and refuses field his best players on a day to day basis. Michael Conforto is statistically the worst player in the MLB, and he let him strike out with the bases loaded today with Will Smith on the bench (2nd best average with RISP in the NL).

I bleed Dodgers blue, but if them missing the playoffs will get him fired this year I'm willing to take it.

He and Prior need to go.
I’m glad I’m not the only one
You are not.
 

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