OFFICIAL 7th pick (12 team redraft) thread (1 Viewer)

[RalphMouth]

I'm thinking RB here- but which one ??

Portis ? Gore ? or Barber ?

then on the way back at #18 probably a top WR like Fitz, Colston, A Johnson unless Gant, MJD or J Lewis is there...

but leaning at WR because I really think Edgerin James, Thomas Jones or D McFadden will be decent RB's all available

in the 4th round-

 

[Max Power]

If you want to talk RB only at 7. I'd be looking at Portis or Addai. Some might give Lynch a look here.

Not feeling Gore this early with a new system and OC. MBIII in the Mid 1st has been debated in countless threads here. I'm tending to side with the too early crowd. I just think Felix will provide more production from the old Julius jones role and won't leave MBIII with numbers in the top 10.

 

[awesomeness]

If you want to talk RB only at 7. I'd be looking at Portis or Addai. Some might give Lynch a look here. Not feeling Gore this early with a new system and OC. MBIII in the Mid 1st has been debated in countless threads here. I'm tending to side with the too early crowd. I just think Felix will provide more production from the old Julius jones role and won't leave MBIII with numbers in the top 10.

Addai will be gone by pick #5 in pretty much all drafts. Personally i'd be hoping to get Frank Gore, if he's gone i would take Portis or Lynch.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

You could do the reverse also. Draft Randy Moss first and pick up a decent rb in the second round.

 

[McBokonon]

I'm picking 7th in the Survivor League #6 that starts in a little over an hour. Post faster, people.

 

[Max Power]

If you want to talk RB only at 7. I'd be looking at Portis or Addai. Some might give Lynch a look here. Not feeling Gore this early with a new system and OC. MBIII in the Mid 1st has been debated in countless threads here. I'm tending to side with the too early crowd. I just think Felix will provide more production from the old Julius jones role and won't leave MBIII with numbers in the top 10.

Addai will be gone by pick #5 in pretty much all drafts. Personally i'd be hoping to get Frank Gore, if he's gone i would take Portis or Lynch.

You are probably right, I knocked Addai down my boards a bit when Rhodes was signed. I really don't think Addai is a 300 carry back and will only see 220-250 carries this season.

 

[SDJohnny]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?.../SP2511VLND.DTL

In PPR I am definately targeting Gore at #7. In the Mocks I've been doing at Mock draft central MJD is usually there in the second round.

 

[RalphMouth]

Portis, Gore or Barber ???

anyone else have opinions ?

 

[SDJohnny]

Here is my best Mock from Mock Draft Central (PPR)

I have doubts that MJD will last until the 3rd round in my main league.

Bonecrushers (your team)

R1 P7 RB Frank Gore, SF (9)

R2 P6 RB Marshawn Lynch, BUF (6)

R3 P7 RB Maurice Jones-Drew, JAX (7)

R4 P6 WR Anquan Boldin, ARI (7)

R5 P7 WR Dwayne Bowe, KC (6)

R6 P6 WR Lee Evans, BUF (6)

R7 P7 WR Jerricho Cotchery, NYJ (5)

R8 P6 QB Eli Manning, NYG (4)

R9 P7 TE Tony Scheffler, DEN (8)

R10 P6 RB Sammy Morris, NE (4)

R11 P7 RB Derrick Ward, NYG (4)

R12 P6 RB Brandon Jackson, GB (8)

R13 P7 DEF New York Giants, NYG (4)

R14 P6 QB Jeff Garcia, TB (10)

R15 P7 WR Brandon Jones, TEN (6)

R16 P6 K Josh Brown, STL (5)

Here is another one with Gore taken already;

Bonecrushers (your team)

R1 P7 RB Marion Barber, DAL (10)

R2 P6 RB Willis McGahee, BAL (10)

R3 P7 WR Chad Johnson, CIN (8)

R4 P6 RB Edgerrin James, ARI (7)

R5 P7 WR Dwayne Bowe, KC (6)

R6 P6 WR Lee Evans, BUF (6)

R7 P7 QB Eli Manning, NYG (4)

R8 P6 TE Todd Heap, BAL (10)

R9 P7 RB Ahman Green, HOU (8)

R10 P6 WR Mark Clayton, BAL (10)

R11 P7 WR Ted Ginn Jr., MIA (4)

R12 P6 RB Leon Washington, NYJ (5)

R13 P7 QB JaMarcus Russell, OAK (5)

R14 P6 DEF Baltimore Ravens, BAL (10)

R15 P7 RB Michael Pittman, DEN (8)

R16 P6 RB Ron Dayne, HOU (8)

R17 P7 WR Brandon Jones, TEN (6)

R18 P6 K Josh Brown, STL (5)

R19 P7 TE Jeff King, CAR (9)

R20 P6 WR Michael Jenkins, ATL (7)

Here is another one from the 7 spot

R1 P7 RB Frank Gore, SF (9)

R2 P6 RB Willis McGahee, BAL (10)

R3 P7 RB Maurice Jones-Drew, JAX (7)

R4 P6 WR Brandon Marshall, DEN (8)

R5 P7 WR Calvin Johnson, DET (4)

R6 P6 QB Ben Roethlisberger, PIT (6)

R7 P7 WR Reggie Brown, PHI (7)

R8 P6 RB Ahman Green, HOU (8)

R9 P7 TE Jeremy Shockey, NO (9)

R10 P6 QB Marc Bulger, STL (5)

R11 P7 TE Donald Lee, GB (8)

R12 P6 WR Mark Clayton, BAL (10)

R13 P7 RB Leon Washington, NYJ (5)

R14 P6 WR Drew Bennett, STL (5)

R15 P7 DEF Philadelphia Eagles, PHI (7)

R16 P6 RB Kolby Smith, KC (6)

 

[TD Ryan]

12 teamer, standard scoring, start 3 WR.

got this out of the 7 spot:

Randy Moss

Braylon Edwards

Reggie Bush

D McFadden

Calvin Johnson

Kevin Smith

M Bulger

Bryant Johnson

Reggie Williams

Owen Daniels

Sammy Morris

Lamont Jordan

M Leinart

Defense (cowboys)

Kicker (Rackers)

lots of young talent... team could be amazing or youth could underachieve.

Strongest WRs in the draft.

Would have taken K Warner too if there was more roster space.

Bush is a decent #2 RB, will McFadden, K Smith, or any NE RB pan out?

Bryant Johnson and Reggie Williams may have trade value.

Bulger/Leiniart/Warner should provide OK QB.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

If it's a TD-heavy league, 1.7 is NOT too early for Barber. I did a TD-heavy mock last week and took him at that spot.

If it's a more conventional scoring system, one of Gore or Portis should be there. Gore is riskier but has higher upside. Portis is steadier and has lower downside. So it depends on your risk tolerance.

If it's PPR, take Gore if he's there. Martz will get him very involved in the passing game. If not, consider Moss.

This assumes the top 5 picks are LT/ADP/Westy/SJax/Addai in some order. That's how most drafts seem to be going.

In the 2nd round, there will be plenty of talent to pick from at 2.6. Take one of the top 3 WR (Moss/Owens/Wayne) if any are still there. If not, look to your RB tiers. If anyone you valued as a late first/early second is still there, grab them. If not, look to the next tier of WRs. Fitz, Edwards, Colston, etc.

 

[RalphMouth]

 

[the spanker]

I go Portis because he is the safest pick.

 

[ceisenhower66]

I just started a 12 team draft picking in the #7 hole. Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 2 RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 K, and 1 D. PPR league...all other scoring is standard. The only thing good about this pick is that I get to pick in the middle of the round and do not have huge waiting periods.

Not sure if anyone is interested, but since this is a slow draft (2 hr between picks), I'll start posting how the picks shake out here (my picks are in bold):

1.1 - LT

1.2 - Peterson; 2.11 - Romo

1.3 - Westbrook; 2.10 - Welker

1.4 - R. Moss; 2.9 - Houshmandzadeh

1.5 - Brady; 2.8 - A. Johnson

1.6 - S. Jackson; 2.7 - Fitzgerald

1.7 - Addai; 2.6 - L. Johnson

1.8 - Barber; 2.5 - Owens

1.9 - Gore; 2.4 - B. Edwards

1.10 - Wayne; 2.3 - Colston

1.11 - Lynch; 2.2 - P. Manning

1.12 - Portis; 2.1 - Grant

Can't say I love my picks, but I had Addai 4th and Johnson 10th on my overall list and I got them at #7 and #18 respectively. I really was hoping to draft Wayne, TO, or Grant with my second pick. I am worried that my #1 WR will not be so hot, but I just could not justify falling into the run on WR this early in the draft. Hell, if this keeps going this way, I will take MoJo or Bush with my next pick and start 3 RBs each week (along with only one WR).

Edit - 23 picks in the books, 12 of them were WR or QB. I cannot believe this. Has anyone else seen a draft like this? There are three teams that have no RB through the second round.

 

[RalphMouth]

I just started a 12 team draft picking in the #7 hole. Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 2 RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 K, and 1 D. PPR league...all other scoring is standard. The only thing good about this pick is that I get to pick in the middle of the round and do not have huge waiting periods.

Not sure if anyone is interested, but since this is a slow draft (2 hr between picks), I'll start posting how the picks shake out here (my picks are in bold):

1.1 - LT

1.2 - Peterson; 2.11 - Romo

1.3 - Westbrook; 2.10 - Welker

1.4 - R. Moss; 2.9 - Houshmandzadeh

1.5 - Brady; 2.8 - A. Johnson

1.6 - S. Jackson; 2.7 - Fitzgerald

1.7 - Addai; 2.6 - L. Johnson

1.8 - Barber; 2.5 - Owens

1.9 - Gore; 2.4 - B. Edwards

1.10 - Wayne; 2.3 - Colston

1.11 - Lynch; 2.2 - P. Manning

1.12 - Portis; 2.1 - Grant

Can't say I love my picks, but I had Addai 4th and Johnson 10th on my overall list and I got them at #7 and #18 respectively. I really was hoping to draft Wayne, TO, or Grant with my second pick. I am worried that my #1 WR will not be so hot, but I just could not justify falling into the run on WR this early in the draft. Hell, if this keeps going this way, I will take MoJo or Bush with my next pick and start 3 RBs each week (along with only one WR).

Edit - 23 picks in the books, 12 of them were WR or QB. I cannot believe this. Has anyone else seen a draft like this? There are three teams that have no RB through the second round.

this looks about right except Welker went way too early -

 

[John Facenda]

I am assuming that LT, AP, Jackson, Westbrook and Addai will go somewhere in the first 6 picks. I think the owner with the 6th pick will go Brady. That leaves me with Barber, Gore and Portis as RB choices. While I like Dallas' offense the best, I think Barber will get the least carries of the three.

Does going with P. Manning or Moss make more sense at this spot, then look for a second tier RB in the next 2 rounds? I feel that if I don't get a premium player at another position, I am going to be behind all the other owners picking after me (talent wise). They get a comparable RB, then they can pick up an elite WR or QB.

Thoughts?

 

[RalphMouth]

I am assuming that LT, AP, Jackson, Westbrook and Addai will go somewhere in the first 6 picks. I think the owner with the 6th pick will go Brady. That leaves me with Barber, Gore and Portis as RB choices. While I like Dallas' offense the best, I think Barber will get the least carries of the three. Does going with P. Manning or Moss make more sense at this spot, then look for a second tier RB in the next 2 rounds? I feel that if I don't get a premium player at another position, I am going to be behind all the other owners picking after me (talent wise). They get a comparable RB, then they can pick up an elite WR or QB.Thoughts?

Would you be happy with a MJD or Jamal Lewis as your #1 RB ??(that's what you may get in the second round for a RB)Then in round 3 you might be able to get Reggie Bush, Maroney as RB's or Santonio Holmes or Roy Williams as WR or Carson Palmer as QB-IF you take Manning or Moss in the 1st round you MUST take a RB in the second -

 

[greyone]

Here is a quick reference. Please read the summary following for detailed round by round thought process

any combo.

1-Gore/Portis/Lynch

2-AJ/FItz

3-Plax/Holt/85

4-TJones/Edge/Graham/turner(sometimes)/Selvin

5-Lendale/Forte/Selvin(Sometimes), Julius Jones

6-Taylor/Kevin Smith are usually available...if not his is where Mendenhall, felix Jones, Ricky, ahman, dangelo

7-10....bpa/vbd while filling starting roster needs...qb/te/depth at wr and rb

11-end of draft...roster fillers and fliers.

Starting RBs have been lasting into Round 6 in legit mocks. Yes, ELITE RBs are not available but serviceable tailbacks can be used. If you play Flex positions....both Rbs or Wrs are still available.

Whatever you do...i have been most happiest taking 2 wrs in the 1st 3 rounds.

***FBG's cheatsheets have a handful of RBs ranked above the WRs i am taking in rounds 2 and 3, but my overall team balance tends to work out in the following***

Obviously each draft is different. Here are my comments from a sample of legit mocks. Fantasyfootballcalculator has a mix of strong to guppie mocks.

I have been most satisfied going RB-WR-WR. 2nd wr in the 3rd round MUST BE A TOP 12 WR. My cutoff for wrs are Plax and Holt. At times, i might gamble by taking Boldin, Welker, Holmes and Calvin Johnson(sometimes). Hoping for a decent rb to make it at 4.07.

Moss

Wayne

TO

Braylon

Fitz

Andre Johnson

Housh

Colston

Chad Johnson

Steve Smith

Plaxico and Torry Holt barely are available at 3.07

After these guys are gone...I am more likely to take a RB in round 3.

But i might gamble on one of these guys in round 3.

Brandon Marshall

Boldin

Welker

Review...

Round 1.7

Gore/Portis/Lynch/Barber(usually not)

Passing on Moss, Peyton

Round 2.6

AJ/Fitz(sometimes)/Braylon(rarely)....possible reaches to maintain strategy...Colston/Housh

passing on players ranked higher on FBG's cheatsheets MJD, LJ, Ryan Grant/Mcgahee/Jacobs/Edge...It sounds nuts to pass on these guys. But i end up with decent rb value in rounds 4(Jones, Mcfadden, Edge, Rudi) and 5(Edge, Rudi, selvin) sometimes round 6(fred Taylor, Kevin Smith)

Round 3.7 Hoping to catch the backend of top WRs

Plax/Holt/Chad Johnson

If they aren't available....I may take Marshall, Boldin or Welker. I am bouncing all over the place and becoming redundant here...so i will tighten it up.

If i do not gamble....I go RB...hoping for another WR to be available at 4.06...I have to take a WR in round 4(jennings/Calvin/Roy), when i go rb in round 3.

Rbs in round 3 are Mcfadden, TJones, BRandon Jacobs(sometimes), Turner, Bush(sometimes),Maroney(usually), Graham. I pass on these rbs to retain an elite wr. Hoping to draft respectable rbs in rounds 4,5 and 6(if there is a decent starting rb available)

Round 4 is tricky...lets recap first.

So my team after going rb-wr-wr...middle-worse case scenario

any combo.

1-Gore/Portis/Lynch

2-AJ/FItz

3-Plax/Holt/85

4-TJones/Edge/Graham/turner(sometimes)/Selvin

5-Lendale/Forte/Selvin(Sometimes), Julius Jones

6-Taylor/Kevin Smith)

7-10....bpa/vbd while filling starting roster needs...qb/te/depth at wr and rb

11-end of draft...roster fillers and fliers.

Something to chew on....enjoy

 

[greyone]

ideally you want to go rb-rb in round 4 and 5. Other teams are set at rb1 and rb2....so they are busy filling in wrs, while you are looking for rbs. Allowing for rbs value to develop.

Round 4 is tricky....for the sake of being more decisive....here is my roster....

Gore

AJ

Plaxico

what do i do now? Take one more stab at a WR/ elite TE or go RB? Convential thinking says go RB. gambling man goes wr/te with mixed results....your depth at rb is at grave risk...specifially your Flex 3 rb

pick 4.7

available rbs: Tjones(usually), Selvin, Turner(usually), Edge, Graham, parker(sometimes..i always pass), rudi, JJones, Stewart(usually)....My goal is to end up with two from this group at pick 5.6. obvious handcuffs may be necessary...kenny watson/rud, parker/ mendenhall, Stewart/ Deang....making these guys semi-gambles.

available wrs: Anquan(sometimes), Holmes(sometimes), Bowe, White, welker(sometimes), calvin Johnson, Roy, Jennings

Available TEs: Gates(sometimes), Witten(sometimes), Kellen, Gonzo

round 4 Jones

round 5 edge/rudi

Roster

gore

aj

plax

Tjones

Edge/ rudi

Can you live with this squad?

 

[RalphMouth]

ideally you want to go rb-rb in round 4 and 5. Other teams are set at rb1 and rb2....so they are busy filling in wrs, while you are looking for rbs. Allowing for rbs value to develop. Round 4 is tricky....for the sake of being more decisive....here is my roster....GoreAJPlaxicowhat do i do now? Take one more stab at a WR/ elite TE or go RB? Convential thinking says go RB. gambling man goes wr/te with mixed results....your depth at rb is at grave risk...specifially your Flex 3 rbpick 4.7available rbs: Tjones(usually), Selvin, Turner(usually), Edge, Graham, parker(sometimes..i always pass), rudi, JJones, Stewart(usually)....My goal is to end up with two from this group at pick 5.6. obvious handcuffs may be necessary...kenny watson/rud, parker/ mendenhall, Stewart/ Deang....making these guys semi-gambles. available wrs: Anquan(sometimes), Holmes(sometimes), Bowe, White, welker(sometimes), calvin Johnson, Roy, JenningsAvailable TEs: Gates(sometimes), Witten(sometimes), Kellen, Gonzoround 4 Jonesround 5 edge/rudiRostergoreajplaxTjonesEdge/ rudiCan you live with this squad?

Very solid IMHO-but...... where do you plan on a QB ?Who do you target ?

 

[greyone]

ideally you want to go rb-rb in round 4 and 5. Other teams are set at rb1 and rb2....so they are busy filling in wrs, while you are looking for rbs. Allowing for rbs value to develop. Round 4 is tricky....for the sake of being more decisive....here is my roster....GoreAJPlaxicowhat do i do now? Take one more stab at a WR/ elite TE or go RB? Convential thinking says go RB. gambling man goes wr/te with mixed results....your depth at rb is at grave risk...specifially your Flex 3 rbpick 4.7available rbs: Tjones(usually), Selvin, Turner(usually), Edge, Graham, parker(sometimes..i always pass), rudi, JJones, Stewart(usually)....My goal is to end up with two from this group at pick 5.6. obvious handcuffs may be necessary...kenny watson/rud, parker/ mendenhall, Stewart/ Deang....making these guys semi-gambles. available wrs: Anquan(sometimes), Holmes(sometimes), Bowe, White, welker(sometimes), calvin Johnson, Roy, JenningsAvailable TEs: Gates(sometimes), Witten(sometimes), Kellen, Gonzoround 4 Jonesround 5 edge/rudiRostergoreajplaxTjonesEdge/ rudiCan you live with this squad?

Very solid IMHO-but...... where do you plan on a QB ?Who do you target ?

Depends on draft flow....Normally round 8-11 is where my tier of qbs are taken. Unless i really want somebody...usually my gut says not to wait until round 9 and go a round early. Early to me is round 8 sometimes 7. For some reason i am not sold on Mcnabb and Bulger. And i shouldn't be avoiding Mcnabb or bulger. If you like them...take them in rounds 6 or 7.Brett Favre has shifted the rankings over the last couple days. I see him in round 7 and jump without hesitation. While following up in the 9-11 rounds. Favre's adp in recent years has screamed value. This year may be the same. I have seen him go from round 5-7. No later than 7. If you like the jets....go for it. Tier just behind big dogs...these guys are going from rounds 6-8cutler, favre, Mcnabb, Bulger, David Anderson*normally get taken way to high for me(round 5)*Value Tier rounds 8-11...ideally two of these guys if not a mixture from above and here. delhomme, schaub, Rivers, aaron rodgers, eli, garrard, favredesperate tier...round 12 and later. One from above....and one from here. If you have two from this group you waited to longcampbell, young, kitna, garciaI didn't give you a hardnose answer because draft flow determines all. goreajplaxtjonesRudi/Edgecooley/shockey/cotchery/coles/driverround 7 - qb? or depth or teround 8 - qb? or depth or teround 9 - FOR SURE you have to go QBI have gone QB in round 3-4-5 with mixed results.

 

[John Facenda]

Bumping life back into this thread....been a week

 

[Tanner9919]

I'm thinking RB here- but which one ??Portis ? Gore ? or Barber ?then on the way back at #18 probably a top WR like Fitz, Colston, A Johnson unless Gant, MJD or J Lewis is there...but leaning at WR because I really think Edgerin James, Thomas Jones or D McFadden will be decent RB's all availablein the 4th round-

Portis..

 

[tonydead]

Here is one I did a week or so ago:

Gore

Peyton

Holt

Roy

Rudi

Seldon Young

Kevin Smith

Garrard

Branch

DJAX

Scheffler

Hester

PITT

Buckhalter

S. Graham

I'm interested in others that took Peyton/Romo in the 2nd.

 

[((Morpheus))]

bump - any new thoughts?

 

[Scruff Mcgruff]

Just finished PPR draft from 7th spot in my money league...any questions about who else was available at the picks, shoot

1.7- Clinton Portis

2.6- Colston

3.7- S.Smith

4.6- McFadden

5.7- Calvin Johnson

6.6- Shockey

7.7- Eli

8.7- Kevin Smith

9.6- Anthony Gonzalez

10.7- Matt Schaub

I took a chance on both Hightower and Pierre Thomas at RB at the end of the draft.

 

[John Facenda]

Just finished PPR draft from 7th spot in my money league...any questions about who else was available at the picks, shoot1.7- Clinton Portis2.6- Colston3.7- S.Smith4.6- McFadden5.7- Calvin Johnson6.6- Shockey7.7- Eli8.7- Kevin Smith9.6- Anthony Gonzalez10.7- Matt Schaub I took a chance on both Hightower and Pierre Thomas at RB at the end of the draft.

Which RB's were still available in the 3rd round. I was wondering what you could have come up with substituting Moss for Portis, and best available RB in the S.Smith spot?

 

[RalphMouth]

Just finished PPR draft from 7th spot in my money league...any questions about who else was available at the picks, shoot1.7- Clinton Portis2.6- Colston3.7- S.Smith4.6- McFadden5.7- Calvin Johnson6.6- Shockey7.7- Eli8.7- Kevin Smith9.6- Anthony Gonzalez10.7- Matt Schaub I took a chance on both Hightower and Pierre Thomas at RB at the end of the draft.

Which RB's were still available in the 3rd round. I was wondering what you could have come up with substituting Moss for Portis, and best available RB in the S.Smith spot?

Don't know about this particular draft but ADP at fantasy calculator says you can expect Maroney, Brandon Jacobs and maybe Thomas Jones (but his stock is quickly on the rise) & Bush. You could also get Michael Turner who's ADP is 4.6 but after Saturday's performance I'm sure he's on the rise too.

 

[Scruff Mcgruff]

Just finished PPR draft from 7th spot in my money league...any questions about who else was available at the picks, shoot1.7- Clinton Portis2.6- Colston3.7- S.Smith4.6- McFadden5.7- Calvin Johnson6.6- Shockey7.7- Eli8.7- Kevin Smith9.6- Anthony Gonzalez10.7- Matt Schaub I took a chance on both Hightower and Pierre Thomas at RB at the end of the draft.

Which RB's were still available in the 3rd round. I was wondering what you could have come up with substituting Moss for Portis, and best available RB in the S.Smith spot?

In my particular draft, Moss went at 1.6 but I was set to take him over Portis myself. Steven Jackson slipped but I thought with his o-line problems, and the holdout Portis was just the safer first round pick (Might be kicking myself afterwards).In the 3rd round, The best available rbs were Turner, Graham, Thomas Jones and in my mind McFadden.Jacobs, Jamal Lewis and Reggie Bush were all gone. I took Smith just because the value made sense because all of the available rbs in the 3rd had a chance of being there in the 4th while Smith didn't.

 

[bigcoch821]

new here but i drafted from the 7 spot in my $ league last nite

tom brady

jason campbell

michael turner

darren mcfadden

fred taylor

deuce mcallister

julius jones

steve slaton

chad johnson

brandon marshall

dwayne bowe

anthony gonzalez

robert meachem

desean jackson

alge crumpler

rob bironas

seattle d

 

[RalphMouth]

New 7th pick mock- what do you think ?

I've had tunnel vision to take a RB at #7 but tried Randy Moss- this is what happened....

Randy Moss

Jamal Lewis

Thomas Jones

Calvin Johnson

Earnest Graham

Hines Ward

Nate Burleson

San Diego defense

Jake Delhomme

Ricky Williams

Aaron Rogers

Owen Daniels

Eddie Royal

Shane Graham

Justin Gage

to my surprise I like this team-

now I've done it.... I'm confused

do I stick with RB/WR/RB or do I go Moss/RB/RB ??? HELP ....

 

[Fenster]

I'm in a 12-team league. 6-point TDs (rush, receiving and passing), 1 PPR, standard scoring elsewhere.

1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 Flex 1 TE 1 PK 1 Def.

I'm figuring the top 6 goes pretty standard: LT, ADP, Westy, Addai, SJax, and probably Brady in there somewhere. Which leaves me with the Gore/MBIII/Lynch decision at RB. Of those three, I'm leaning toward Gore, but I'm not feeling confident in that pick.

Here's the wrinkle I'm contending with: I have Braylon Edwards as a keeper (costs me a 6th-round pick). I'm wondering if it would be a better idea to grab Moss at 1-7, load up on RBs in the next three rounds and then start looking at QB or a WR3 in the fifth. I figure by Round 5 I'm looking at Cutler, McNabb or Bulger as a QB or Cotchery, Coles and Lee Evans at WR.

Does a squad that looks like this after six rounds:

Moss

Bush

Graham

McFadden

Cutler/McNabb/Bulger

Edwards

... Really seem that much worse that this?

Gore

Houshmanzadeh

Graham

McFadden

Cotchery

Edwards

Team I has a stud WR, three servicable RBs, a mid-level QB and a solid WR2.

Team II has a semi-stud RB, a decent RB2 and a rookie RB3/Flex with potential, plus three good WRs.

Damn. Thinking things out is just making me more confused. Anyone else have an opinion?

 

[Bobcat10]

Be back tomorrow. I just got 7th. Giddy up!

 

[RalphMouth]

I'm in a 12-team league. 6-point TDs (rush, receiving and passing), 1 PPR, standard scoring elsewhere.1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 Flex 1 TE 1 PK 1 Def.I'm figuring the top 6 goes pretty standard: LT, ADP, Westy, Addai, SJax, and probably Brady in there somewhere. Which leaves me with the Gore/MBIII/Lynch decision at RB. Of those three, I'm leaning toward Gore, but I'm not feeling confident in that pick.Here's the wrinkle I'm contending with: I have Braylon Edwards as a keeper (costs me a 6th-round pick). I'm wondering if it would be a better idea to grab Moss at 1-7, load up on RBs in the next three rounds and then start looking at QB or a WR3 in the fifth. I figure by Round 5 I'm looking at Cutler, McNabb or Bulger as a QB or Cotchery, Coles and Lee Evans at WR.Does a squad that looks like this after six rounds:MossBushGrahamMcFaddenCutler/McNabb/BulgerEdwards... Really seem that much worse that this?GoreHoushmanzadehGrahamMcFaddenCotcheryEdwardsTeam I has a stud WR, three servicable RBs, a mid-level QB and a solid WR2.Team II has a semi-stud RB, a decent RB2 and a rookie RB3/Flex with potential, plus three good WRs. Damn. Thinking things out is just making me more confused. Anyone else have an opinion?

see my above post re: drafting Moss at #7 overall- I'm really confused myself

 

[Bobcat10]

Anyone draft the 7th spot this weekend? How'd you fare?

This Moss/MBIII/Portis situation (assuming LT, AP, Westy, Addai, Brady, SJax are gone) has me working out way too many scenarios. I'm actually confusing myself more I think.

 

[zoni]

12 team IDP performance scoring, .5 PPR, (note that QBs score 6pts per TD - they go early in this league). Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 K, 1 LB, 1 DB, 1 DL, 1 IDP Flex

(RD 13) Campbell, Jason WAS QB

(RD 5) McNabb, Donovan PHI QB (Sixth QB off the board)

(RD 6) Forte, Matt CHI RB ® 8

(RD 4) Graham, Earnest TBB RB 10

(RD 2) Johnson, Larry KCC RB 6

(RD 18) Morris, Maurice SEA RB 4

(RD 16) Slaton, Steve HOU RB ® 8

(RD 7) Taylor, Fred JAC RB 7

(RD 8) Galloway, Joey TBB WR 10

(RD 9) Gonzalez, Anthony IND WR 4

(RD 3) Houshmandzadeh, T.J. CIN WR 8

(RD 1) Moss, Randy NEP WR 4

(RD 15) Kaeding, Nate SDC PK 9

(RD 17) Schobel, Aaron BUF DE 6

(RD 10) Fletcher-Baker, London WAS LB 10

(RD 11) Posluszny, Paul BUF LB 6

(RD 14) Tatupu, Lofa SEA LB 4

(RD 13) Winfield, Antoine MIN CB

 

[OU#1]

I picked 7th in an ongoing live draft. We are now wrapping up the 7th round.

1.07 Tom Brady

2.06 MJD

3.06 Megatron

4.07 Turner the Burner

5.07 Minny DST

6.06 Roddy White

7.06 Edge

I reached for Megatron by about 5-6 slots. I knew he wouldn't be there in the 4th and I'm high on him this year (also high on Turner). Minny DST was #3 DVBD according to DD when I took them in the 5th...DST's score very well in our league. Edge was the #1 DVDB for the previous couple rounds and nobody wanted him so I went ahead and trusted DD.

I'm targeting Chris Johnson in the 8th and Nate Burlesson in the 9th.

I've pretty much come to terms that I'm definately going to lose my week 7 game and I'm probably going to lose my week 4 game.

Noteable still on the board: Lendale, Ricky Williams, Ronnie Brown, Fred Taylor, Rudi Johnson, Chris Perry, Ray Rice, Joey Galloway, Owen Daniels (to name a few).

 

[SDJohnny]

1. Barber

2. Fitz

3. McGahee

4. Boldin

5. Winslow

6. R.Brown

7. Minn D.

8. S. Moss

9. Berrian

10. Eli Manning

11. Slaton

12. Norwood

13. Bryant Johnson

14. Warner

15. Crosby

PPR, 6 ptd for each TD. Not my best effort.

 

[Bobcat10]

1. Barber2. Fitz3. McGahee4. Bolding5. Winslow6. R.Brown7. Minn D. 8. S. Moss9. Berrian10. Eli Manning11. Slaton12. Norwood13. Bryant Johnson14. Warner15. CrosbyPPR, 6 ptd for each TD. Not my best effort.

Moss was gone I take it? I'd love to see Manning in the 10th with a similar draft before then (although I'd change up a few of those players most likely...McG, Ron Brown, MinnD).

 

[Drinkin Buddy]

I've done dozens of mocks and this seems to be the general gameplan:

1.07: Barber/Lynch/Gore

2.08: TO/Wayne/Edwards/Fitz

3.07: CJ/Holt/Plax/Smith (Occassionally Jacobs/MJD/Grant fall here and I take them)

4.08: Turner/Graham/Parker/Bush/James

5.07: Edge/Witten/Winslow/Gates/S.Young/L.White (rarely are teh TEs around)

6.08: S.Young/Cotchery/Bowe/Forte

7.07: Favre/Garrard/Cutler/Ricky/Deangelo

8.08: Deangelo/Burleson/Mason/RegBrown

9.07: Rodgers/Schaub/Rivers/Daniels/Scheffler

10.08: Daniels/Scheffler/Norwood/Ginn

11.07: VYoung/Kitna/Campbell

Kickers/Defense and Flyers

I have tried WR/WR (Moss + 1 of other top 5) and it does usually work out quite well as long as you're content having 2 of Turner/Graham/Parker/Bush/James at RB.

 

[gman74]

I've done dozens of mocks and this seems to be the general gameplan:1.07: Barber/Lynch/Gore2.08: TO/Wayne/Edwards/Fitz3.07: CJ/Holt/Plax/Smith (Occassionally Jacobs/MJD/Grant fall here and I take them)4.08: Turner/Graham/Parker/Bush/James5.07: Edge/Witten/Winslow/Gates/S.Young/L.White (rarely are teh TEs around)6.08: S.Young/Cotchery/Bowe/Forte7.07: Favre/Garrard/Cutler/Ricky/Deangelo8.08: Deangelo/Burleson/Mason/RegBrown9.07: Rodgers/Schaub/Rivers/Daniels/Scheffler10.08: Daniels/Scheffler/Norwood/Ginn11.07: VYoung/Kitna/CampbellKickers/Defense and FlyersI have tried WR/WR (Moss + 1 of other top 5) and it does usually work out quite well as long as you're content having 2 of Turner/Graham/Parker/Bush/James at RB.

Gore is a 2nd rnderTO and Wayne will not be there in the 2ndDoubt Grant will be there in the 3rd

 

[Drinkin Buddy]

I've done dozens of mocks and this seems to be the general gameplan:1.07: Barber/Lynch/Gore2.08: TO/Wayne/Edwards/Fitz3.07: CJ/Holt/Plax/Smith (Occassionally Jacobs/MJD/Grant fall here and I take them)4.08: Turner/Graham/Parker/Bush/James5.07: Edge/Witten/Winslow/Gates/S.Young/L.White (rarely are teh TEs around)6.08: S.Young/Cotchery/Bowe/Forte7.07: Favre/Garrard/Cutler/Ricky/Deangelo8.08: Deangelo/Burleson/Mason/RegBrown9.07: Rodgers/Schaub/Rivers/Daniels/Scheffler10.08: Daniels/Scheffler/Norwood/Ginn11.07: VYoung/Kitna/CampbellKickers/Defense and FlyersI have tried WR/WR (Moss + 1 of other top 5) and it does usually work out quite well as long as you're content having 2 of Turner/Graham/Parker/Bush/James at RB.

Gore is a 2nd rnderTO and Wayne will not be there in the 2ndDoubt Grant will be there in the 3rd

Disagree on Gore, I think O'Sullivan might keep defenses honest enough to give Gore some space, I think he'll look alot more like Faulk then KevJones. Of the 20 mocks or so I'd say TO was there 2-3 times and Wayne was there 6-7.Grant was there about 20% of the tiime as well.

 

[kevjones22]

whats wrong with looking like KevJones?

 

[gman74]

I've done dozens of mocks and this seems to be the general gameplan:1.07: Barber/Lynch/Gore2.08: TO/Wayne/Edwards/Fitz3.07: CJ/Holt/Plax/Smith (Occassionally Jacobs/MJD/Grant fall here and I take them)4.08: Turner/Graham/Parker/Bush/James5.07: Edge/Witten/Winslow/Gates/S.Young/L.White (rarely are teh TEs around)6.08: S.Young/Cotchery/Bowe/Forte7.07: Favre/Garrard/Cutler/Ricky/Deangelo8.08: Deangelo/Burleson/Mason/RegBrown9.07: Rodgers/Schaub/Rivers/Daniels/Scheffler10.08: Daniels/Scheffler/Norwood/Ginn11.07: VYoung/Kitna/CampbellKickers/Defense and FlyersI have tried WR/WR (Moss + 1 of other top 5) and it does usually work out quite well as long as you're content having 2 of Turner/Graham/Parker/Bush/James at RB.

Gore is a 2nd rnderTO and Wayne will not be there in the 2ndDoubt Grant will be there in the 3rd

Disagree on Gore, I think O'Sullivan might keep defenses honest enough to give Gore some space, I think he'll look alot more like Faulk then KevJones. Of the 20 mocks or so I'd say TO was there 2-3 times and Wayne was there 6-7.Grant was there about 20% of the tiime as well.

Don't you think in anyway comparing Gore to Faulk is an insult to Faulk. We are talking about Marshal and not Kevin right? You know Hof,MVP Marshal. Marshal is from LA, Kevin went to LSU I know it can be confusing sometimes.Mocks are differnt from real drafts. In my 2 drafts TO,Wayne and Grant never made it past 2.04Dude O'Sullivan was the emergency QB last season in Detroit. I would not say he will keep defenses honest,its more of a slam on Alex Smith than anything.

 

[Bobcat10]

I've done dozens of mocks and this seems to be the general gameplan:1.07: Barber/Lynch/Gore2.08: TO/Wayne/Edwards/Fitz3.07: CJ/Holt/Plax/Smith (Occassionally Jacobs/MJD/Grant fall here and I take them)4.08: Turner/Graham/Parker/Bush/James5.07: Edge/Witten/Winslow/Gates/S.Young/L.White (rarely are teh TEs around)6.08: S.Young/Cotchery/Bowe/Forte7.07: Favre/Garrard/Cutler/Ricky/Deangelo8.08: Deangelo/Burleson/Mason/RegBrown9.07: Rodgers/Schaub/Rivers/Daniels/Scheffler10.08: Daniels/Scheffler/Norwood/Ginn11.07: VYoung/Kitna/CampbellKickers/Defense and FlyersI have tried WR/WR (Moss + 1 of other top 5) and it does usually work out quite well as long as you're content having 2 of Turner/Graham/Parker/Bush/James at RB.

Gore is a 2nd rnderTO and Wayne will not be there in the 2ndDoubt Grant will be there in the 3rd

Disagree on Gore, I think O'Sullivan might keep defenses honest enough to give Gore some space, I think he'll look alot more like Faulk then KevJones. Of the 20 mocks or so I'd say TO was there 2-3 times and Wayne was there 6-7.Grant was there about 20% of the tiime as well.

Don't you think in anyway comparing Gore to Faulk is an insult to Faulk. We are talking about Marshal and not Kevin right? You know Hof,MVP Marshal. Marshal is from LA, Kevin went to LSU I know it can be confusing sometimes.Mocks are differnt from real drafts. In my 2 drafts TO,Wayne and Grant never made it past 2.04Dude O'Sullivan was the emergency QB last season in Detroit. I would not say he will keep defenses honest,its more of a slam on Alex Smith than anything.

If his order is true, then Gore is definitely in the right place behind Barber and Lynch and you're not going to be taking Gore here. I think I'd take Portis ahead of Gore also. If Barber and Lynch are gone, then a nice RB fell in your lap.Regardless, his strategy is what is important here, not squabbling over one player in his groupings. That's why there are groupings.

 

[wombat104]

Anyone draft the 7th spot this weekend? How'd you fare?This Moss/MBIII/Portis situation (assuming LT, AP, Westy, Addai, Brady, SJax are gone) has me working out way too many scenarios. I'm actually confusing myself more I think.

So far so good (email draft). 12 team, 4 points passing TD, 1pt/25 passing yards, 6 points rush/rec TD, 1 pt/10 yards rush/rec. Yes there are guppies I would say half guppies, half sharks.Start 1QB/2 RB/2 WR/1 TE/1 DF/1 K1.7 Addai (Manning and Brady both selected before him)2.6 Wayne3.7 Andre Johnson4.6 Thomas Jones (reached)5.7 Earnest Graham 6.6 Cotchery7.7 Selvin Young8.6 David GerrardNot sure what I am gonna do next, Schaub is still there might grab him or go with Owen Daniels.

 

[gman74]

I've done dozens of mocks and this seems to be the general gameplan:1.07: Barber/Lynch/Gore2.08: TO/Wayne/Edwards/Fitz3.07: CJ/Holt/Plax/Smith (Occassionally Jacobs/MJD/Grant fall here and I take them)4.08: Turner/Graham/Parker/Bush/James5.07: Edge/Witten/Winslow/Gates/S.Young/L.White (rarely are teh TEs around)6.08: S.Young/Cotchery/Bowe/Forte7.07: Favre/Garrard/Cutler/Ricky/Deangelo8.08: Deangelo/Burleson/Mason/RegBrown9.07: Rodgers/Schaub/Rivers/Daniels/Scheffler10.08: Daniels/Scheffler/Norwood/Ginn11.07: VYoung/Kitna/CampbellKickers/Defense and FlyersI have tried WR/WR (Moss + 1 of other top 5) and it does usually work out quite well as long as you're content having 2 of Turner/Graham/Parker/Bush/James at RB.

Gore is a 2nd rnderTO and Wayne will not be there in the 2ndDoubt Grant will be there in the 3rd

Disagree on Gore, I think O'Sullivan might keep defenses honest enough to give Gore some space, I think he'll look alot more like Faulk then KevJones. Of the 20 mocks or so I'd say TO was there 2-3 times and Wayne was there 6-7.Grant was there about 20% of the tiime as well.

Don't you think in anyway comparing Gore to Faulk is an insult to Faulk. We are talking about Marshal and not Kevin right? You know Hof,MVP Marshal. Marshal is from LA, Kevin went to LSU I know it can be confusing sometimes.Mocks are differnt from real drafts. In my 2 drafts TO,Wayne and Grant never made it past 2.04Dude O'Sullivan was the emergency QB last season in Detroit. I would not say he will keep defenses honest,its more of a slam on Alex Smith than anything.

If his order is true, then Gore is definitely in the right place behind Barber and Lynch and you're not going to be taking Gore here. I think I'd take Portis ahead of Gore also. If Barber and Lynch are gone, then a nice RB fell in your lap.Regardless, his strategy is what is important here, not squabbling over one player in his groupings. That's why there are groupings.

Well if Barber and Lynch are ahead of him then he is at least downwards of 10th in draft order and that is if you do not prefer Portis,Wayne and company witch would push Gore to the 2nd. That is where I see him 1000 yards rushing and 6-8 tds does not make a 1st rnd RB

 

[Bobcat10]

Anyone draft the 7th spot this weekend? How'd you fare?This Moss/MBIII/Portis situation (assuming LT, AP, Westy, Addai, Brady, SJax are gone) has me working out way too many scenarios. I'm actually confusing myself more I think.

So far so good (email draft). 12 team, 4 points passing TD, 1pt/25 passing yards, 6 points rush/rec TD, 1 pt/10 yards rush/rec. Yes there are guppies I would say half guppies, half sharks.Start 1QB/2 RB/2 WR/1 TE/1 DF/1 K1.7 Addai (Manning and Brady both selected before him)2.6 Wayne3.7 Andre Johnson4.6 Thomas Jones (reached)5.7 Earnest Graham 6.6 Cotchery7.7 Selvin Young8.6 David GerrardNot sure what I am gonna do next, Schaub is still there might grab him or go with Owen Daniels.

If Addai went instead of Manning earlier, as he should have, who would you have went with at 1.7? RB or Moss? RB, the draft would stay about the same, maybe identical, Moss and you have a much different team.

 

[Akira]

This is how my draft from the #7 spot worked out. My league is 12 teams, ppr, as well as IDP. The offensive starters are qb, wr, wr, rb, wr/rb, te, k.

1.07 Marion Barber

2.06 Larry Fitzgerald

3.07 Reggie Bush

4.06 Plaxico Burress

5.07 Edgerrin James

6.06 Jerricho Cotchery

7.07 Thomas Jones

8.06 Matt Schaub

I wasn't planning on picking up so many running backs but since they were still on the board I decided to grab them and maybe use them as trade bait later on. I also grabbed Todd Heap as my te in round 17 (the last round), Buffalo's D in the 16th, and Jake Delhomme in the 15th.

 

[Tanner9919]

Anyone draft the 7th spot this weekend? How'd you fare?This Moss/MBIII/Portis situation (assuming LT, AP, Westy, Addai, Brady, SJax are gone) has me working out way too many scenarios. I'm actually confusing myself more I think.

I have the 8th pick in a 10 team redraft, I feel your pain... but, that being said, I'm tossing Moss aside and leaving it between MB3 and Portis.with Portis you KNOW what you are getting...some 1200 rush yards, and about 11-3 TDs...I don't like Moss as much as the others in here, only b/c I doubt the Pats will pass nearly as much as they did last season, and Moss'#'s tailed off during the end of the 2007 season ( he still scored TDs, but his reception totals were down compared to the first 1/2 of the year). Seems defense 'figured out' how to contain Moss down the stretch of the 2007 season...as for MB3 , lots of people see the upside and potential of a breakout season, but for a guy who's never had more than 200 carries in a season its hard to think he's going to get 300+ ..his situation worries me somewhat, there is a lot of uncertainty..Switz will tell you about Barber, I tend to agree with him, not sure I'm buying what Barber is selling at this point..Aside from Portis at #8, I'm actually looking at WR's like T.O. , Fitz, etc..I'd rather have a top 2 WR than the #7-8 RB..looking in the second round , you can still possibly get LJ or even Portis or Gore, Jamal at 2.3 ( 13th overall)..so I mean, is the drop-off from the 8th best RB ( Portis) to the 10th RB ( LJ or Jamal)really worth jumping on one at #8? nope..'Best player available' is probably your best bet for that pick,regardless of position..