***Official Academy Awards Discussion Thread*** - Anora is the Big Winner (4 Viewers)

[ekbeats]

I wonder if the following become a bit of a trend with celebrities and athletes:

1. Hitting someone when you feel a loved has been disrespected

2. Roasting jokes become off limits

I’m not saying this is going to sweep the land.  But something as newsworthy as this is bound to have an effect.  I didn’t like the joke, but it was just a joke.  Humor is almost dead in this country as it is, and I see this as frosting things even further.

 

[DocHolliday]

I’m surprised people actually watch these Hollywood award shows.   That’s the real crime.  

 

[Todem]

I'm not going to read this whole thread. First a little back story. I have a customer who is a talent buyer and knows some Hollywood talent and actually knows a few people close to both Chris Rock and Will Smith. Another is a good friend of mine from HS who's colloboratted and produced some Philly Rapper Meek Mill's work since he's been out of jail, he also wrote the TV Theme intro to Fox's Empire and does some small production. He worked on Silver Linings Playbook with Dinero and Cooper and was invited to parties of Tyreese Gibson who was late actor Paul Walker's best friend. 

Anyway there's been tension with Will Smith and Chris Rock since 2O16. At the time Will went to Rock and asked him to please keep his wife's name our of his mouth and to not cross the line on personal family issues. A lot of people in Hollywood who knew both defended Will because Chris Rock has crossed the line a number of times on jokes involving others and had been told before about toning down some of the personal jokes on people.This doesn't make Chris a horrible guy just that he uses material that gets cheap laughs anymore. Rock hasn't been legit funny in yrs so he results to these little personal jibes on others. Jada came out on Social media in "18 saying she had this and the mental and physical emotional battle she's struggled with. With all this said Chris Rock went too far last night which is why Will Snapped.

Had this not been the OSCARS and not broadcasted on live TV there'd have been quiet a few of the others there that would've stood and cheered for what Will did. However do to the social nature of this and all a lot of them really couldn't. I would say Smith did a good job standing up for his wife and I think if the academy bans him they are hypocrites especially with all the producers and other sexual predators and misogynists similar to Harvey Wienstine they know about who they continue to allow in Hollywood and at the awards. If I were the academy I'd tell both parties they are banned from attending the awards next year and both can be invited back the next year if they behave themselves. The Academy is probably happy because the award ratings have been plummeting for awhile and this has people talking now. 

Finally Will Smith did what I'd hope any male spouse would do for their wife/GF/Fiancee etc and that is stand up for her. Should he have slapped him? Probably not, but standing up in front of the show and yelling at him go for it. Knowing some of the stuff I do about Chris Rock and Will Smith I can't say I feel sorry for Chris in this situation. He was told by someone husband to keep his wife's name out of his mouth nor speak of her. At the time of the initial words Will was pretty respectful with the whole thing. Rock went against another man's plea. Like the saying goes Play Stupid games win stupid prizes.  

He handled it all wrong. Just all wrong in every way.

Handle it after the show. I lost a lot of respect for Will Smith. I thought he was better than that. 
 

I don’t have a problem with a man defending his wife….. bit this is the ****ing Oscars, you are most likely also going to win an Academy for Best Actor….just really the wrong place and wrong time to address it. 

Again…..I thought he was better than that.

He knows he made a massive mistake in judgement. It will be talked about for years….I still think he is a terrific actor. But I lost respect for him in how he handled this. 

 

[bigbottom]

I would also have liked to see him apologize for that god awful speech, but it’s a step in the right direction. Kudos to the PR and crisis management teams. 

 

[ekbeats]

Not reading all 24 pages. But why was Smith not arrested even if Rock didn't press charges?  Live video shows the assault.  Crazy times we live in.  

Why wasn’t he at least asked to leave?  The guy was out of his mind.  What if Chris Rock went up to him during a commercial break to apologize?  What if another presenter said something about the incident?  Celebrity privilege I guess.

 

[massraider]

I wonder if the following become a bit of a trend with celebrities and athletes:

1. Hitting someone when you feel a loved has been disrespected

2. Roasting jokes become off limits

I’m not saying this is going to sweep the land.  But something as newsworthy as this is bound to have an effect.  I didn’t like the joke, but it was just a joke.  Humor is almost dead in this country as it is, and I see this as frosting things even further.

The Oscars have been doing this for decades. Roasting jokes have not always been part of it, and the very definition of a roast is the guest of honor agrees to the roast.

This was not a roast, so classless jokes about the spouse of one of the nominees really shouldn't be expected, and Rock getting crap for it really isn't the death of comedy. 

I think it's dumb that comedians get some sort of free pass. You can't be funny without being nasty, and taking a cheap shot, then maybe you aren't that funny. 

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Will Smith gets jokes about this for the next 5 years.

Oh you sweet gentle soul.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Favorite Twitter response:

"Nice try but she won't sleep with you Will."

 

[The General]

Why wasn’t he at least asked to leave?  The guy was out of his mind.  What if Chris Rock went up to him during a commercial break to apologize?  What if another presenter said something about the incident?  Celebrity privilege I guess.

Apparently Rock tried to do that from the stage. I saw some pics that looked like that, or he was at least putting his hand out to Smith like "we good".

 I don't think they have nay rules since this was so odd, but yeah he should have been tossed.

 

[DJackson10]

Why wasn’t he at least asked to leave?  The guy was out of his mind.  What if Chris Rock went up to him during a commercial break to apologize?  What if another presenter said something about the incident?  Celebrity privilege I guess.

The more detailed of this response I could go into in the political thread. However the it's basically that cops know these people have good lawyers. You aren't going to get someone arrested with money. A really good celebrity lawyer will find someway to get the charges dropped plus cops here don't want to piss off the wrong people. If this was Joe Schmo at some HS rewards event punching someone even if charges weren't pressed in a fairly middle class neighborhood the cops would be all over this. 

Short version that is appropriate fr the non PF portion of the board is basically Rock and Smith have money and cops don't want to piss off the wrong people. This is no different then Tommy Lee and Kid Rock fighting at the music awards over Pam Anderson yrs ago. Cops weren't getting involved with that unless someone pressed charges. 

Chris Rock also knew he F'd up and was probably advised by his legal and PR team had he done that he could make the situation worse. Given how society is these days it's surprising it hasn't happened yet but someone would surely bring up the fact of Rock's multiple jokes involved N Bombs and other stuff too. If I was on Rock's legal and PR team I'd have advised him not to press charges either. 

 

[DJackson10]

Apparently Rock tried to do that from the stage. I saw some pics that looked like that, or he was at least putting his hand out to Smith like "we good".

 I don't think they have nay rules since this was so odd, but yeah he should have been tossed.

Don't think he was getting tossed. The ratings apparently skyrocketed up after the incident. OSCARs like I said probably loved having the news on them no matter what. There's a famous saying when it comes to famous people anywhere especially Hollywood and music. "No News is bad news for you, if your name is in the news no matter how positive or negative it is, thats good for you." Basically if people aren't talking about you in anyway you are pretty much irrelevant. 

 

[The General]

Don't think he was getting tossed. The ratings apparently skyrocketed up after the incident. OSCARs like I said probably loved having the news on them no matter what. There's a famous saying when it comes to famous people anywhere especially Hollywood and music. "No News is bad news for you, if your name is in the news no matter how positive or negative it is, thats good for you." Basically if people aren't talking about you in anyway you are pretty much irrelevant. 

Yeah. He probably should have been tossed but there's no way someone is making that call during the show. This is a live production and there are 400 things going on at the same time.

If you are going to mess up be the first to do it. No one is ever getting punched by a nominee again

 

[DJackson10]

Yeah. He probably should have been tossed but there's no way someone is making that call during the show. This is a live production and there are 400 things going on at the same time.

If you are going to mess up be the first to do it. No one is ever getting punched by a nominee again

Wouldn't shock me if they start the show like an hr earlier now and go to a tape delay version to prevent these things and edit it. 

 

[The General]

Wouldn't shock me if they start the show like an hr earlier now and go to a tape delay version to prevent these things and edit it. 

Heck no. Ratings blew up because of this!

That being said between dumping the audio for this and the covering up of the Venus Williams wardrobe malfunction the guy who runs the delay board for this broadcast had a HOF evening.

 

[BladeRunner]

I'm not going to read this whole thread. First a little back story. I have a customer who is a talent buyer and knows some Hollywood talent and actually knows a few people close to both Chris Rock and Will Smith. Another is a good friend of mine from HS who's colloboratted and produced some Philly Rapper Meek Mill's work since he's been out of jail, he also wrote the TV Theme intro to Fox's Empire and does some small production. He worked on Silver Linings Playbook with Dinero and Cooper and was invited to parties of Tyreese Gibson who was late actor Paul Walker's best friend. 

Anyway there's been tension with Will Smith and Chris Rock since 2O16. At the time Will went to Rock and asked him to please keep his wife's name our of his mouth and to not cross the line on personal family issues. A lot of people in Hollywood who knew both defended Will because Chris Rock has crossed the line a number of times on jokes involving others and had been told before about toning down some of the personal jokes on people.This doesn't make Chris a horrible guy just that he uses material that gets cheap laughs anymore. Rock hasn't been legit funny in yrs so he results to these little personal jibes on others. Jada came out on Social media in "18 saying she had this and the mental and physical emotional battle she's struggled with. With all this said Chris Rock went too far last night which is why Will Snapped.

Had this not been the OSCARS and not broadcasted on live TV there'd have been quiet a few of the others there that would've stood and cheered for what Will did. However do to the social nature of this and all a lot of them really couldn't. I would say Smith did a good job standing up for his wife and I think if the academy bans him they are hypocrites especially with all the producers and other sexual predators and misogynists similar to Harvey Wienstine they know about who they continue to allow in Hollywood and at the awards. If I were the academy I'd tell both parties they are banned from attending the awards next year and both can be invited back the next year if they behave themselves. The Academy is probably happy because the award ratings have been plummeting for awhile and this has people talking now. 

Finally Will Smith did what I'd hope any male spouse would do for their wife/GF/Fiancee etc and that is stand up for her. Should he have slapped him? Probably not, but standing up in front of the show and yelling at him go for it. Knowing some of the stuff I do about Chris Rock and Will Smith I can't say I feel sorry for Chris in this situation. He was told by someone husband to keep his wife's name out of his mouth nor speak of her. At the time of the initial words Will was pretty respectful with the whole thing. Rock went against another man's plea. Like the saying goes Play Stupid games win stupid prizes.  

This isn't a good look considering his wife has been cheating on him and publicly embarrassed him on live TV a couple months ago.

Now he's trying to show how manly he is by slapping another man and then going back to his seat and crying? 

Not buying it.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Smith should've turned and slapped Jada for appearing in Matrix Resurrections instead.  That movie was god-awful.

Shows how much I pay attention to things, as I never realized that was her in the Matrix Sequels playing Niobe.  

 

[DJackson10]

Heck no. Ratings blew up because of this!

That being said between dumping the audio for this and the covering up of the Venus Williams wardrobe malfunction the guy who runs the delay board for this broadcast had a HOF evening.

Also it's kind of ironic Will won an award for playing a pretty controversial figure after doing that. 

 

[BladeRunner]

I wonder if the following become a bit of a trend with celebrities and athletes:

1. Hitting someone when you feel a loved has been disrespected

2. Roasting jokes become off limits

I’m not saying this is going to sweep the land.  But something as newsworthy as this is bound to have an effect.  I didn’t like the joke, but it was just a joke.  Humor is almost dead in this country as it is, and I see this as frosting things even further.

Smith just open the door for every jackass that goes to a comedy show and feels offended to just walk up on stage and hit the comedian

 

[KarmaPolice]

I’m surprised people actually watch these Hollywood award shows.   That’s the real crime.  

Me, no worse than the top 10 list of NF shows when I log on.   Give me the Oscars or Golden Globes over Is It Cake? any day of the week.  

 

[The Dude]

I bet they appear on snl together this week

 

[The General]

I bet they appear on snl together this week

My guess is Rock lays low then has a comedy special on Netflix in a few months for a cool 20 mill or so.

 

[DJackson10]

I wonder if the following become a bit of a trend with celebrities and athletes:

1. Hitting someone when you feel a loved has been disrespected

2. Roasting jokes become off limits

I’m not saying this is going to sweep the land.  But something as newsworthy as this is bound to have an effect.  I didn’t like the joke, but it was just a joke.  Humor is almost dead in this country as it is, and I see this as frosting things even further.

I don't mind people roasting others in a respectful manner. However this crossed the line. This was a guy making a joke about someone else's condition that he was told by another man not to joke about his wife and she was off limits. As a comedian Chris Rock should know that rule well. He hasn't been funny in years and in the past 6-8 yrs as subjected himself using old issues and personally attacking certain people. it's not that funny and this definitely crossed the line. Rock was trying to get some cheap laughs at the expense of someone who he knows came out publicly about 4 yrs ago stating the mental and physical stress they've went through. This was after he was told to keep said person out of his jokes. 

I do think this will make people question the jokes now but I don't think this will completely stop them. Chris Rock wasn't using good humor in this regard. 

 

[DJackson10]

My guess is Rock lays low then has a comedy special on Netflix in a few months for a cool 20 mill or so.

Saw someone on twitter put this out about a comedy special. 

 

[Ghost Rider]

The joke was not about Jada's medical condition.  It was about her having no hair.  Call it semantics, but there is a difference.

And the joke was not even an insult. I haven't see G.I. Jane in a long time, but I seem to recall her being a bad ### character, so being called the next G.I. Jane should be considered a big compliment, no? 

 

[eoMMan]

Heck no. Ratings blew up because of this!

That being said between dumping the audio for this and the covering up of the Venus Williams wardrobe malfunction the guy who runs the delay board for this broadcast had a HOF evening.

Sounds like a good reason for something like this to happen…hmmm… @Capella

 

[Hov34]

I don't mind people roasting others in a respectful manner. However this crossed the line. This was a guy making a joke about someone else's condition that he was told by another man not to joke about his wife and she was off limits. As a comedian Chris Rock should know that rule well. He hasn't been funny in years and in the past 6-8 yrs as subjected himself using old issues and personally attacking certain people. it's not that funny and this definitely crossed the line. Rock was trying to get some cheap laughs at the expense of someone who he knows came out publicly about 4 yrs ago stating the mental and physical stress they've went through. This was after he was told to keep said person out of his jokes. 

I do think this will make people question the jokes now but I don't think this will completely stop them. Chris Rock wasn't using good humor in this regard. 

Horse ####.  You sit front and center at the Oscars where comedians are hired to do their shtick, you grin and roll with the jokes.  If not, you are the jackass.  IF there is a line in comedy - this wasn't it.  Rock did nothing wrong, and you defending what Smith did has you coming off as a Philly Fresh Prince fan boy.  Stop.

 

[eoMMan]

If this was indeed not staged, I would have loved for the Academy to withhold the Oscar from Smith. Grow some balls and say something like “Due to his actions tonight of assaulting a presenter, we have decided to give the award to X”

 

[DJackson10]

The joke was not about Jada's medical condition.  It was about her having no hair.  Call it semantics, but there is a difference.

And the joke was not even an insult. I haven't see G.I. Jane in a long time, but I seem to recall her being a bad ### character, so being called the next G.I. Jane should be considered a big compliment, no? 

I saw the movie back in the day when they played it on TV like USA Network or whatever. However my generation and others have been using GI Jane as an insult to people for awhile. Like your momma jokes and other things. So no it hasn't been deemed as a compliment for awhile.

Also people forget I believe Chris Rock made a joke at another awards show back in 16" that was kind of over the line. Will Smith told him after the fact to please keep his wife and his personal business out of his jokes as they deemed it inappropriate at the time considering many didn't know about some of the issues going on. So it's not the joke itself as much as it's the fact Will Smith had asked him awhile back to refrain from jokes about his wife. Don't think people are taking that into account here unless they don't know about it already 

 

[identikit]

Heck no. Ratings blew up because of this!

That being said between dumping the audio for this and the covering up of the Venus Williams wardrobe malfunction the guy who runs the delay board for this broadcast had a HOF evening.

The 2nd lowest rated Oscars show in history, I've heard.

So, not at the bottom!

 

[DJackson10]

Horse ####.  You sit front and center at the Oscars where comedians are hired to do their shtick, you grin and roll with the jokes.  If not, you are the jackass.  IF there is a line in comedy - this wasn't it.  Rock did nothing wrong, and you defending what Smith did has you coming off as a Philly Fresh Prince fan boy.  Stop.

Joking about someone's illness and fact that they have publicly stated the mental and physically stress they went through actually makes you a jackass. Honestly if someone tried to joke about someones issues like that as cheap laughs I'd kick their ###. You don't know what someone's been through. Again Smith asked Rock to refrain from jokes about his wife yrs prior. Rock knew exactly what he was doing. It wasn't funny. This is no different then trump making fun of the handicapped reporter so I guess I'm not surprised people defending Rock here considering how Trump's comment should've ended his canidancy right there but didn't. People have a sick mindset in this country what a joke is. 

As someone who deals with issues myself in terms of abnormal issues I wouldn't take any of those things lightly. 

 

[bigbottom]

Also people forget I believe Chris Rock made a joke at another awards show back in 16" that was kind of over the line.

If it was the joke about her boycotting the Oscars, I don’t think it was over the line at all.

 

[The General]

The 2nd lowest rated Oscars show in history, I've heard.

So, not at the bottom!

Man. I wonder what pickup they saw after the slap until the end. Definitely most talked about Oscars in past 20 years prolly. The La La Land thing was up there but not this level.

But, until people go back to the theaters en masse this thing is basically a notch above the Grammy's.

 

[chet]

The more detailed of this response I could go into in the political thread. However the it's basically that cops know these people have good lawyers. You aren't going to get someone arrested with money. A really good celebrity lawyer will find someway to get the charges dropped plus cops here don't want to piss off the wrong people. If this was Joe Schmo at some HS rewards event punching someone even if charges weren't pressed in a fairly middle class neighborhood the cops would be all over this. 

Short version that is appropriate fr the non PF portion of the board is basically Rock and Smith have money and cops don't want to piss off the wrong people. This is no different then Tommy Lee and Kid Rock fighting at the music awards over Pam Anderson yrs ago. Cops weren't getting involved with that unless someone pressed charges. 

Chris Rock also knew he F'd up and was probably advised by his legal and PR team had he done that he could make the situation worse. Given how society is these days it's surprising it hasn't happened yet but someone would surely bring up the fact of Rock's multiple jokes involved N Bombs and other stuff too. If I was on Rock's legal and PR team I'd have advised him not to press charges either. 

Rock ####ed up?  Child, please.  He did nothing wrong and handled the altercation like a pro.

 

[DJackson10]

Horse ####.  You sit front and center at the Oscars where comedians are hired to do their shtick, you grin and roll with the jokes.  If not, you are the jackass.  IF there is a line in comedy - this wasn't it.  Rock did nothing wrong, and you defending what Smith did has you coming off as a Philly Fresh Prince fan boy.  Stop.

Also I'm sticking up for Jada as someone who's been mocked myself for a disability for cheap laughs in the past. It's a form of bullying. If you can't see what he did as a forming of bullying especially when he was asked nicely years ago to refrain from joking about her maybe look at yourself in the mirror. 

 

[Ghost Rider]

You can keep repeating it, but Rock did not joke about her illness.

I will say it again: Chris Rock did not joke about her illness. 

The joke was about her hair. 

There is a difference. 

Write it down. 

 

[DJackson10]

If it was the joke about her boycotting the Oscars, I don’t think it was over the line at all.

I don't think it was. I think it was about her and Will's personal marriage issues. I know there was a story on it but I heard from my friend Will respectively went up to him at some point either after the show or the next time they met to please keep his wife and his personal business private and it wasn't something to joke about as both were going through a tough time dealing with it. There's been a lot of tension since but like I said Chris Rock hasn't been funny for awhile and has resorted to more personal attack jokes using old events as he can't come up with good funny material without dropping N Bombs and other stuff anymore. 

 

[chet]

Also I'm sticking up for Jada as someone who's been mocked myself for a disability for cheap laughs in the past. It's a form of bullying. If you can't see what he did as a forming of bullying especially when he was asked nicely years ago to refrain from joking about her maybe look at yourself in the mirror. 

Your personal situation isn't the same as Jada's.  She's a public figure and jokes and criticism about her are fair game. 

 

[massraider]

You can keep repeating it, but Rock did not joke about her illness.

I will say it again: Chris Rock did not joke about her illness. 

The joke was about her hair. 

There is a difference. 

Write it down. 

This is as strong an argument as saying GI Jane was a strong character, so what's the problem? 

 

[ekbeats]

You can keep repeating it, but Rock did not joke about her illness.

I will say it again: Chris Rock did not joke about her illness. 

The joke was about her hair. 

There is a difference. 

Write it down. 

There’s a report out there that says Chris Rock didn’t know that Jada had alopecia

 

[chet]

From twitter:

If Dave Chapelle had been slapped, there would have been three more hours of Jada jokes.

 

[DJackson10]

You can keep repeating it, but Rock did not joke about her illness.

I will say it again: Chris Rock did not joke about her illness. 

The joke was about her hair. 

There is a difference. 

Write it down. 

Joking about her having no hair is do to that illness though. You can argue semantics all you want. Either way Rock was asked in the past to not joke about the guys wife and he did. I think that's why Rock reacted the way he did after and then tried to make light of the situation. 

My customer who is a talent buyer has done numerous comedy events from Carlin, to Sandler, Kevin James, Chris Rock, Saget etc etc etc over the yrs. The event promoter tells my guy what appropriate material and non appropriate material they can use during the show depending on the event. I forget the comedian but he had a story about how he told a comedian to not use his more provocative material. I think it was MacDonald If my memory is write. Mcdonald's first skit is about his most inappropriate promoter stopped the showed and booted him and refused to pay him. 

In any case Rock should've refrained from Talking about Jada period. 

 

[identikit]

There’s a report out there that says Chris Rock didn’t know that Jada had alopecia

I tend to believe this

 

[DJackson10]

There’s a report out there that says Chris Rock didn’t know that Jada had alopecia

That's a copout. She went on her social media and posted a video in 2O18 about it and the struggles she was having mentally and physically with it. 

 

[BobbyLayne]

official response

 

[Ghost Rider]

There’s a report out there that says Chris Rock didn’t know that Jada had alopecia

No idea, to be honest.  I get the thinking that comedians get too much of a pass at times for saying anything and everything all "in the name of comedy," but this crack wasn't bad or offensive at all.  I doubt Rock thought it was, which is why he said, "Come on, that was a nice one," when the crowd didn't react overly positive to it. 

From twitter:

If Dave Chapelle had been slapped, there would have been three more hours of Jada jokes.

 Just imagine if The Rock had made the crack instead of Chris Rock.  Wonder if Will Smith would have been so brave then.  

 

[Ghost Rider]

Joking about her having no hair is do to that illness though. You can argue semantics all you want. Either way Rock was asked in the past to not joke about the guys wife and he did. I think that's why Rock reacted the way he did after and then tried to make light of the situation. 

My customer who is a talent buyer has done numerous comedy events from Carlin, to Sandler, Kevin James, Chris Rock, Saget etc etc etc over the yrs. The event promoter tells my guy what appropriate material and non appropriate material they can use during the show depending on the event. I forget the comedian but he had a story about how he told a comedian to not use his more provocative material. I think it was MacDonald If my memory is write. Mcdonald's first skit is about his most inappropriate promoter stopped the showed and booted him and refused to pay him. 

In any case Rock should've refrained from Talking about Jada period. 

Yeah, and a friend I have had for over 30 years ran a local comedy forum for over 10 years and got some pretty big names in there at times and thinks this whole thing is nothing, but I do not play the "Yeah, but I have a friend who says this, that and the other" in every thread you like do.  

But, by all means take the side of the guy who assaulted someone on live TV. 

 

[bigbottom]

That's a copout. She went on her social media and posted a video in 2O18 about it and the struggles she was having mentally and physically with it. 

I think it’s more likely that Chris knew about her condition than I did given that he’s in the business. That said, the fact that I had no idea about her condition leads me to acknowledge the possibility that he didn’t either.

 

[chet]

Joking about her having no hair is do to that illness though. You can argue semantics all you want. Either way Rock was asked in the past to not joke about the guys wife and he did. I think that's why Rock reacted the way he did after and then tried to make light of the situation. 

My customer who is a talent buyer has done numerous comedy events from Carlin, to Sandler, Kevin James, Chris Rock, Saget etc etc etc over the yrs. The event promoter tells my guy what appropriate material and non appropriate material they can use during the show depending on the event. I forget the comedian but he had a story about how he told a comedian to not use his more provocative material. I think it was MacDonald If my memory is write. Mcdonald's first skit is about his most inappropriate promoter stopped the showed and booted him and refused to pay him. 

In any case Rock should've refrained from Talking about Jada period. 

Oh bull####™.  How are people supposed to talk/argue/joke if they are precluded from saying anything that might offend anyone.

 

[identikit]

The Djaxing has begun....

 

[Ghost Rider]

Oh bull####™.  How are people supposed to talk/argue/joke if they are precluded from saying anything that might offend anyone.

Exactly, but this is where we are now.  Everyone is offended by something, so no matter what you say, someone is bothered by it.  Had Rock gone after the Smiths for their open marriage stuff, that would have been a bit over the line, even though it would have been fair game since they have put it all out there for everyone to know about it, but, again, I suspect Rock thought the hair joke was fairly harmless, which it should have been.