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***Official Academy Awards Discussion Thread*** - Anora is the Big Winner (1 Viewer)

You’re a forgiving man Ghost.  Ain’t nothing wrong with that. 👍
Well, I don't know Will Smith, so me forgiving him or not forgiving him means nada, but I just don't think this one incident suddenly makes him a jerk.  I am sure success and power and money have made him feel entitled which is why he was able to shake it off and accept his award and then party afterwards like nothing had happened, but this is, what, the first stain on him in 35 years of being in the public eye.  I just think some perspective is in order.  And I say that while conceding that punishment still needs to be handed down for his actions. 

 
The damage to Rock wasn't physical--it was to his reputation.  Jim Carrey said he would sue Smith for $200MM.  Howard Stern talked about this too--Chris Rock will always be remembered as the guy who got ##### slapped.
This is ridiculous.   Chris Rock just became relevant again and is going to make bank off of this for a long time to come.   He handled the situation as perfectly and professionally as one could.   He took the hit like a champ, didn't retaliate, made it clear he could've verbally destroyed Will in that moment but decided to hold his tongue out of respect for the moment.   His reputation is better than ever.   Rock is the big winner in all of this actually.

 
This is ridiculous.   Chris Rock just became relevant again and is going to make bank off of this for a long time to come.   He handled the situation as perfectly and professionally as one could.   He took the hit like a champ, didn't retaliate, made it clear he could've verbally destroyed Will in that moment but decided to hold his tongue out of respect for the moment.   His reputation is better than ever.   Rock is the big winner in all of this actually.
It’s not ridiculous. If I were Chris Rock I would rather not be associated with getting smacked on National TV and have it replayed to literally hundreds of millions of people - for the rest of eternity. 

Im not for suing people over a slap but it’s not totally out of the realm of reasonable. 
 

If I were Rock I would sue Smith for “one rib”. 

 
It’s not ridiculous. If I were Chris Rock I would rather not be associated with getting smacked on National TV and have it replayed to literally hundreds of millions of people - for the rest of eternity. 
But why?   It's not like it made him look bad, or weak or anything really negative to his manhood.    It actually made him look very professional the way he handled it.  The more that's replayed the more it continues Rock's relevancy and, in turn, his bankroll.   There's literally nothing negative about this for Rock and his career/legacy.

 
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But why?   It's not like it made him look bad, or weak or anything really negative to his manhood.    It actually made him look very professional the way he handled it.  The more that's replayed the more it continues Rock's relevancy and, in turn, his bankroll.   There's literally nothing negative about this for Rock and his career/legacy.
He just got #####-slapped on National TV.  It's embarrasing.  In 25 years from now, what's the first thing that people are going to remember when his name is bought up?  Hid great comedy, or being slapped in front of the largest audience in the world?

 
This is ridiculous.   Chris Rock just became relevant again and is going to make bank off of this for a long time to come.   He handled the situation as perfectly and professionally as one could.   He took the hit like a champ, didn't retaliate, made it clear he could've verbally destroyed Will in that moment but decided to hold his tongue out of respect for the moment.   His reputation is better than ever.   Rock is the big winner in all of this actually.
  he was relevant before this

 
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He just got #####-slapped on National TV.  It's embarrasing.  In 25 years from now, what's the first thing that people are going to remember when his name is bought up?  Hid great comedy, or being slapped in front of the largest audience in the world?
How is what ultimately transpired embarrassing for him?   If he would've fallen over, started crying or acted like a B, then yeah....but, that's not what happened.  He ate the slap and acted 100% professionally after.

And ultimately this moment in time will exponentially increase his net worth.  Dude hit the lottery and his popularity and relevance has never been higher.   No downside for Rock in all of this.

 
  he was relevant before this
Not the way he is now, and you're naive to think otherwise   His standup ticket prices prove this.

per NY Post:

Demand and prices for tickets to Chris Rock’s comedy tour have surged since he was slapped by Will Smith at the Oscars on Sunday night, a report said.

Tickets prices for the tour, which includes stops in 30 North American cities, rose from a minimum of $46 per ticket on March 18 to a whopping minimum of $341 on secondary market platform TickPick since the Academy Awards drama, Variety reported.

TickPick also said that from Sunday night through Monday the company sold more tickets to the comedian’s tour than they did all of the past month.

 
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Not the way he is now, and you're naive to think otherwise   His standup ticket prices prove this.

per NY Post:

Tickets prices for the tour, which includes stops in 30 North American cities, rose from a minimum of $46 per ticket on March 18 to a whopping minimum of $341 on secondary market platform TickPick since the Academy Awards drama, Variety reported.
Hes got 3 movies coming out in 2022 - one he produced

He has produced 3 TV shows in the last 4 years.....

Just because hes not doing big blockbusters doesnt make him irrelevant

your naive to think just becuase you "haven't seen him"  hes not working

 
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Hes got 3 movies coming out in 2022 - one he produced

He has produced 3 TV shows in the last 4 years.....

Just because hes not doing big blockbusters doesnt make him irrelevant
I never said he was completely irrelevant...if that was the case, he would've never been a presenter on the Oscars in the first place.   But to really say with a straight face that his popularity rank/$$ pulling power in the entertainment industry hasn't jumped significantly since this event is silly.

 
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How is what ultimately transpired embarrassing for him?   If he would've fallen over, started crying or acted like a B, then yeah....but, that's not what happened.  He ate the slap and acted 100% professionally after.

And ultimately this moment in time will exponentially increase his net worth.  Dude hit the lottery and his popularity and relevance has never been higher.   No downside for Rock in all of this.
I agree with you that Rock ultimately wins out on this and Smith loses. Rock handled a terrible situation incredibly well. But I don’t agree with how you’ve constantly minimized this. “Just a slap”. On the Offdee Scale I’d give you about a 2 in this thread. Still would grab a drink with you in Vegas again though. 

 
I agree with you that Rock ultimately wins out on this and Smith loses. Rock handled a terrible situation incredibly well. But I don’t agree with how you’ve constantly minimized this. “Just a slap”. On the Offdee Scale I’d give you about a 2 in this thread. Still would grab a drink with you in Vegas again though. 
lol, I guess we just disagree on the "slap".   I'd have a total different perspective if it was a closed fist punch, but a slap is just.....well, nothing in terms of potential damage.   Was it wrong, yes, but on the scale of things Smith could've done beyond words, the only less violent thing would've been if he took a glove out of his pocket and whacked it across his face like an old British woman.

 
How is what ultimately transpired embarrassing for him?   If he would've fallen over, started crying or acted like a B, then yeah....but, that's not what happened.  He ate the slap and acted 100% professionally after.

And ultimately this moment in time will exponentially increase his net worth.  Dude hit the lottery and his popularity and relevance has never been higher.   No downside for Rock in all of this.
I agree that Rock makes out like a champ.  Jada will probably share her side soon at a Red Table Talk.  So, who is the loser here?

I think Will is a nice guy who got manipulated by Hollywood, Scientology, open relationships, and maybe illuminati.  At the very least, it appears Willow and Jaden made a pact with slenderman.

Now we all know that 4 is more, 5 is live, and 9 is divine:

Will Smith, 4 + 5 = 9

Chris Rock, 5 + 4 = 9

Is it a coincidence that before Will and Jada's entanglement, Will had a son named Tre and Jada dated 2pac?

Tre squared = 9

Are you listening yet?

 
Was there a camera isolated on the Smiths before Will went up on stage? Wondering what changed between him laughing at Rock's Jada joke and flipping out 

 
Was there a camera isolated on the Smiths before Will went up on stage? Wondering what changed between him laughing at Rock's Jada joke and flipping out 
Will saw Jada not laughing and realized he needed to do something to save face with her 

 
I agree that Rock makes out like a champ.  Jada will probably share her side soon at a Red Table Talk.  So, who is the loser here?

I think Will is a nice guy who got manipulated by Hollywood, Scientology, open relationships, and maybe illuminati.  At the very least, it appears Willow and Jaden made a pact with slenderman.

Now we all know that 4 is more, 5 is live, and 9 is divine:

Will Smith, 4 + 5 = 9

Chris Rock, 5 + 4 = 9

Is it a coincidence that before Will and Jada's entanglement, Will had a son named Tre and Jada dated 2pac?

Tre squared = 9

Are you listening yet?
How can anyone argue with this?

 
But why?   It's not like it made him look bad, or weak or anything really negative to his manhood.    It actually made him look very professional the way he handled it.  The more that's replayed the more it continues Rock's relevancy and, in turn, his bankroll.   There's literally nothing negative about this for Rock and his career/legacy.
Its ####### embarrassing. He got slapped on national TV and nobody did anything to the person who slapped him. THey just let him sit there the whole time. Id be mortified if that happened to me and now we will forever know Chris Rock as the victim of this incident.

 
Not the way he is now, and you're naive to think otherwise   His standup ticket prices prove this.

per NY Post:

Demand and prices for tickets to Chris Rock’s comedy tour have surged since he was slapped by Will Smith at the Oscars on Sunday night, a report said.

Tickets prices for the tour, which includes stops in 30 North American cities, rose from a minimum of $46 per ticket on March 18 to a whopping minimum of $341 on secondary market platform TickPick since the Academy Awards drama, Variety reported.

TickPick also said that from Sunday night through Monday the company sold more tickets to the comedian’s tour than they did all of the past month.


You're the naive one for being completely oblivious to any possible downside for Rock out of this situation.

 
Its ####### embarrassing. He got slapped on national TV and nobody did anything to the person who slapped him. THey just let him sit there the whole time. Id be mortified if that happened to me and now we will forever know Chris Rock as the victim of this incident.
I think you’d get over it after it puts a couple extra million dollars in your bank account. 

 
Lol at saying the slap was less.   It sounded like a fist, and it wasn't until a half hour after it happened in here that myself and another poster reported it was a slap.  Until then, we all thought it was a fist. 

 
I don’t think Rock has anything at all to feel bad about. He handled the situation like a pro. And an adult. That said, I think getting publicly slapped across the face by another man is almost worse than a punch. Somehow almost feels more demeaning. I’d still choose the slap over a punch though because I don’t like pain. 

 
jobarules said:
Its ####### embarrassing. He got slapped on national TV and nobody did anything to the person who slapped him. THey just let him sit there the whole time. Id be mortified if that happened to me and now we will forever know Chris Rock as the victim of this incident.
I have seen another video where Questlove ,who won the award Rock was presenting, stops and gives Smith a big embrace on the way to the stage. Rock looks on with an odd look on his face and then steps to the side as Questlove starts his acceptance speech. 
I have seen other shots that show Bradley Cooper and Samuel L Jackson talking to Smith during the commercial break and Smith already said in his acceptance speech that Denzel spoke to him. Nobody seemed too worried about Rock after the slap. 
 

 
I have seen another video where Questlove ,who won the award Rock was presenting, stops and gives Smith a big embrace on the way to the stage. Rock looks on with an odd look on his face and then steps to the side as Questlove starts his acceptance speech. 
I have seen other shots that show Bradley Cooper and Samuel L Jackson talking to Smith during the commercial break and Smith already said in his acceptance speech that Denzel spoke to him. Nobody seemed too worried about Rock after the slap. 
 
It's bull####. If someone ##### slapped me in front of a bunch of people I know and my "friends" supported the person who slapped me I'd be ####### humiliated and those people would no longer be my friends. 

 
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You didnt see the disgusted look and eye roll on Jada's face?
I did. But Will didn't because he was watching Chris on stage. Clearly something transpired between Jada and Will in a few seconds. I'm curious as to what made him go from yucking along to PO'd.

And how about the 40 minutes between the altercation and the acceptance speech? Surely they had a camera on him the rest of the night. 

If I'm the producer of that show, I'd make darn sure ahead of time that the director knew that I'd want to know if someone farted sideways in that theater that night. The camera cut to the Smiths during Rock's act. Did that camera cut away in those 10 seconds? Why? No one else was brought up. 

 
Whole lot of machismo in this thread...
And a whole lot of the opposite in this thread. 
 

ETA- Nobody is advocating a full out brawl but to act like defending yourself or retaliating when another  person physically strikes you is somehow a foreign idea is a truly backwards and bizarre take. 
 

 
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I haven't done the full TMZ on this, to me the slap looked like either Will didn't go full out to do max damage or almost went with a stage slap.  He could have gone with a full windup.  Is there anything to that?  It was just my initial impression and jesus this thing took on a life of it's own since.  

Even if true, I don't really knows what that changes.  Dude was still way out of line to go on stage at all even if not taking a swing.  

 
It's bull####. If someone ##### slapped me in front of a bunch of people I know and my "friends" supported the person who slapped me I'd be ####### humiliated and those people would no longer be my friends. 
Geez dude, grow a pair.  If it was me that just got slapped by Will Smith and I ate the thing like nothing and laughed it off basically making him look like a little punk for coming at me with a B slap....and THEN the realization that it was filmed and I now have one of the richest men in Hollywood's balls by a string, AND now my name will be in the lights while I'm just starting my comedy tour, AND giving me years of gold material to make jokes about with guaranteed laughs because the audience is basically living this material with me?!? 

Cmon, I'd enjoy every second of all that and internally laughing at Smith thanking him for being an idiot (which in some instance was exactly what Rock did by holding back his barrage of jokes he could've absolutely demoralized Smith with)

And by the way your "real friends" are all of the top roasting comedians in the world (Chapelle, etc) that will have your back during their acts while others laugh along at Will Smith's expense, and cross-promoting you at their sold out events. 

All that clout and millions of extra dollars in your bank account from this single 5 second moment, should help you get over some rando celebrity not comforting you in that moment.  And we all know Rock was being catered to behind stage by whoever was there...we just didn't see it on film.

 
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Chaz McNulty said:
He just got #####-slapped on National TV.  It's embarrasing.  In 25 years from now, what's the first thing that people are going to remember when his name is bought up?  Hid great comedy, or being slapped in front of the largest audience in the world?
I would definitely remember him as one of the greatest stand-up comedians ever over the slap.

 
For the rest of my life anytime anyone says either Will Smith or Chris Rock the first thing that will come to mind is Will Smith slapping Chris Rock. Forever. Will I think of Fresh Prince or Pookie? Sure. 
 

Remember that time Fresh Prince slapped Pookie? That #### was crazy! 

 
offdee said:
This is ridiculous.   Chris Rock just became relevant again and is going to make bank off of this for a long time to come.   He handled the situation as perfectly and professionally as one could.   He took the hit like a champ, didn't retaliate, made it clear he could've verbally destroyed Will in that moment but decided to hold his tongue out of respect for the moment.   His reputation is better than ever.   Rock is the big winner in all of this actually.
This x1000%.  This video shows Rock just after the incident...he's dazed, confused, looks really sad...it's heartbreaking.  That will make the rounds...this initial support of Smith will wane...Rock's popularity will skyrocket...and Smith's career will fade away.

 
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This x1000%.  This video shows Rock just after the incident...he's dazed, confused, looks really sad...it's heartbreaking.  That will make the rounds...this initial support of Smith will wane...Rock's popularity will skyrocket...and Smith's career will fade away.
What gets me every time I watch the slap video is the smug, arrogant, satisfied look on Smith's face as he turns and walks back to his seat. Total cocky #######. 

The look of shock and bewilderment on Chris' face is just so sad.

 
Getzlaf15 said:
Lol at saying the slap was less.   It sounded like a fist, and it wasn't until a half hour after it happened in here that myself and another poster reported it was a slap.  Until then, we all thought it was a fist. 
Not really, Smith played Muhammad freaking Ali. If Smith punched Rock (~5'9" 170lbs), Rock would have been carried off in a stretcher.

 
I haven't done the full TMZ on this, to me the slap looked like either Will didn't go full out to do max damage or almost went with a stage slap.  He could have gone with a full windup.  Is there anything to that?  It was just my initial impression and jesus this thing took on a life of it's own since.  

Even if true, I don't really knows what that changes.  Dude was still way out of line to go on stage at all even if not taking a swing.  
He didn't swing to do damage. It was an act of discipline doled out by someone that felt he was superior than the other. It was meant as a public display of humiliation. Smith bullied a smaller man because he's so macho and needed to protect his damsel in distress. 

 
Since the incident, all I’ve seen is that Rock has taken the high road, and he looks better for it. Sure, it was likely awkward for a bit, but to the people who are questioning why he didn’t do anything in return, were you expecting him to take a swing at Will? The guy is taller and has a longer reach, how does that benefit him?

Could he have kept the jokes going? Absolutely! Everyone knows how Jada has publicly embarrassed Will on multiple occasions and in extremely personal ways over the past few years, practically emasculating the guy to his face. Chris Rock could have gone off the cuff and eviscerated that entire family, from how Jada is still more in love with Tupac, to that entire entanglement fiasco on the red table, to his kids known for doing dumb stuff and riding the family coattails, to how even at that moment he was up there because his wife was insulted by a joke about a 25 year old movie, and she’s still likely going home with someone else. He didn’t do that, and he let Will show his ### on national tv.

 

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