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***Official Academy Awards Discussion Thread*** - Anora is the Big Winner (2 Viewers)
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Might.
The General
Footballguy
Hollywood loves it when actors go ugly
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Yes!!
Ilov80s
Footballguy
And the comeback
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
b r e a t h e
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
it’s a notch above meh but he was great. loved his performance.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
It's been a fun Oscars, but I will admit that Tar getting shut out makes me grumpy
facook
Footballguy
I'll just send you my tiktoks.
The General
Footballguy
Big night for A24
Ilov80s
Footballguy
And Banshees :(
But Elvis is getting shutout as well so that might balance the universe out for you
Major
Footballguy
Aronfsky fan boy here and I still need to see it. Didn't realize it got bad reviews.
The General
Footballguy
Why stop at 10 noms! Let’s have 40!!
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I thought everything would get most of the glory but thought Banshees and Tar could get the acting awards.
krista4
Footballguy
Yeah, as much I loved the acting in Everything (especially Michelle Yeoh), Banshees should have won Supporting Actress and Supporting Actor (sorry Short Round) at the very least.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I loved the daughter the most, but agree on the rest- the acting awards should have all gone elsewhere.
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
I don’t know. I liked it a lot. I’m 55 and a white guy. And I like many different types of movies. It was my 3rd favorite of the best pic noms after EEAAO and Women Talking.
And I saw it on the big screen. Pretty great IMO.
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
So, other than the two movies I liked better I guess I’m proving your point
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
I do have to brag. I went 22/23 on our Oscar pool and won for the 3rd year in a row.
****ing production design got me.
****ing production design got me.
rockaction
Footballguy
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
That’s the best I’ve ever done. I’ve missed two a few times before but, yeah.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
That’s awesome you got to see it in a theater. I bet that would have improved my experience. I don’t think it got to many theaters though.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
The A24 thing was what balanced it out for me. I wasn't actively rooting against Elvis or anything, just not my thing and not my experience with the movie. But if you ask me and ignore Andy
they are responsible for an impressive hit rate from their studio and a lot of my favorite movies of the last decade - especially in the horror genre. I know they will never win anything for those movies, but I am glad they are getting recognition, and hope with that comes even more ability to crank out the quality. I can't think of the last time I actually looked at what a studio is putting out in the movies for the year, and I've been doing that with A24 for years, and have been slowly working through the movies I've missed of theirs.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Big Picture had another great point on the reaction pod - that it was a perfect movie to have the ability to rewatch it a few times before voting (and more chance to get caught up with the great vibes from the cast as they campaigned). Do we think it would have done quite as well if it came out at Christmas and people only got to sit with it once and vote? Maybe the answer is still yes, but I thought it was an interesting point one of them made.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Also, Cruise and Cameron not being there - did they have a good reason? It's noticeable when you are attempting to get more mainstream viewers on board and the 2 people most responsible for getting those viewers in the theaters this year aren't to be seen.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
It I had to guess
Cameron- mad he didn’t get a director nom and still bitter about his exwife winning over him for the first Avatar.
Cruise- that’s a little more shocking since they said he went to the Oscar’s luncheon and was the most popular person there. Perhaps he just didn’t want to run the risk of himself and Scientology being the butt of any jokes? Maybe he got COVID/sick/hurt and didn’t want to publicly acknowledge that?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I did have All Quiet ranked as my 9th of the 10 nominees but I thought it was solid. Triangle was the only one I actively disliked. I just think All Quiet was one of the most traditional Oscar style movies and in a year when the big favorite was a female driven, mostly Asian, small and off the wall film it would have really let the air out of thing if All Quiet took the top prize.
Everything and All Quiet were the clear big winners and what’s pretty cool is that most of the people involved had never been nominated and in many cases had hardly any major movie experience.
Everything and All Quiet were the clear big winners and what’s pretty cool is that most of the people involved had never been nominated and in many cases had hardly any major movie experience.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I can't even comment because I only saw two films that were nominated for anything even mildly significant - Maverick and The Batman.
I did watch, and mostly enjoy, RRR which received a Best Song nom.
I do want to see EEAAO though. And not just because it won everything. Michelle Yeoh has long been awesome in my book.
I did watch, and mostly enjoy, RRR which received a Best Song nom.
I do want to see EEAAO though. And not just because it won everything. Michelle Yeoh has long been awesome in my book.
I'm not getting the whole Best Actor/Actress - Supporting Actor/Actress. How was Ke Huy Quan the best "Supporting Actor" and not the "Best Actor"? I don't see how Jamie Lee was even considered "Best Supporting.." either. Stephanie Hsu seemed to be solely that.....Jamie Lee's role (while good) was on screen for what...5 minutes? Might as well have James Hong in there as "Best Supporting Actor".
Major
Footballguy
Agree on Hsu. Sometimes they award these things based on the actor's career and not necessarily the film.
Moonlight
Footballguy
If I had been sitting behind her, there would have been a ruckus involving some scissors.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
The movie producers basically can choose which role they want to enter an actor/actress in for. Most people thought it was curious Michelle Williams submitted for lead and not supporting because she likely would have won Best Supporting. Yeoh is definitely the lead of the movie with Hsu and Ke in slightly smaller roles but I completely agree that Ke feels like it could have been a lead. I assume that was a strategic decision thinking that was the more suitable category to make a play for.
The win for Curtis was the typical nod to a legend nearing the end of their career. She is very well liked in the industry, never was given much respect from the Academy because she mostly worked in horror and comedy, has the Hollywood royalty blood lines. So it was basically a career achievement awards for her. I thought she was fine but didn't think it was award worthy (though for a woman of her age, it was a very physical role). However, I don't think any of the women nominated for supporting were great this year. Just all solid performances.
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CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I watched it as soon as it became available for rental on streaming and was disappointed. Not a bad movie by any means but from the preview it seemed like a SciFi / multiverse thing, which is right in my wheelhouse, and its not that at all. Its a movie about family relationships and while that part is really well done, the SciFi stuff is extremely weak. Happy for Yeoh and others but stunned by the award haul this movie has taken in the past month or so leading up to last night. And I love Jamie Lee (who doesn't) but she's hardly in the movie at all! Kerry Condon was so much better in Banshees. I read today the budget for EEAAO was actually quite a bit less than the reported $25m and believe it.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Could only get through about 1/3 of EEAAO. I considered it goofy rather than engaging. Plus I could barely understand the actors when they were speaking. Closed captioning didn't help. I'm sorry.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
1000%, and it's the thing The Academy does consistently that really grinds my gears. Once you start down that road then it happens more and more and there is little meaning to giving somebody an award for that year. I think because of the genres she worked in and your point about that, it made this one stand out even more. Usually it would be somebody like Michelle Williams in a "lesser" performance to make up for other snubs and whatnot. Or late era Scorsese winning.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
That's astonishing, really. But at the same time, not very surprising.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
How do they calculate the various ways in ratings? Is that just on ABC live, or does that include Hulu clicks, etc..
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
I was wrong about this. My wife reminded me today that we streamed AQOTWF. Still one of my favorites of the nominated best pics.
The General
Footballguy
Pretty sure outside of football games Oscars are still most watched broadcast show by quite a bit.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Articles I am seeing show 18.7 million which is a 3 year high and up 12% from last year.
That said, live TV is struggling. For example, in 2012 NCIS was the most watched TV show with 21 million viewers (more than even SNF averaged). In 2022, the most watched scripted network show was FBI with 8.6 million viewers. Last year's Oscars were still the 23rd most watched TV event of the year. The only events higher than it that weren't the NFL was one prime time night of the Olympics and the Georgia-Alabama National Title Game.
identikit
Footballguy
Oscars Ratings: 18 Million Viewers, Third Lowest-Rated Telecast Ever [Updated] — World of Reel
Last year, around 16.6 million Americans watched the Academy Awards ceremony. Oscar viewership tends to fluctuate year by year, however the last time the ceremony drew in a U.S. audience of more than 40 million was in 2014.
www.worldofreel.com
Numbers all over the place....16...18....16
rockaction
Footballguy
That drop from 2014 to a mere decade later is astonishing. Perhaps the cultural importance and the pull of movies has just failed to capture the American public's imagination anymore. I have some theories why, but I won't muck up the thread with them.
I know I've tuned out and given a reason why. But I don't think that there are as many people like me as the overall number might suggest, so I'm not doing a victory lap. I genuinely wonder whether a lot of societal problems that we had in the past were actually glossed over by the American appetite for escapism, and that escapism no longer holds sway over younger generations.
I know I've tuned out and given a reason why. But I don't think that there are as many people like me as the overall number might suggest, so I'm not doing a victory lap. I genuinely wonder whether a lot of societal problems that we had in the past were actually glossed over by the American appetite for escapism, and that escapism no longer holds sway over younger generations.
rockaction
Footballguy
And we are indeed just getting back to normal from COVID, so the number drops in the previous two years shouldn't be surprising. That said, there is no monoculture anymore and perhaps we have to adjust our expectations downward when it comes to these numbers.
I'm just spitballing, but that would seem to be a valid reason.
Also, maybe people just realized that awards shows are generally the suck in every sense of the word, and there's no real reason other than that for why people aren't tuning in anymore.
I'm just spitballing, but that would seem to be a valid reason.
Also, maybe people just realized that awards shows are generally the suck in every sense of the word, and there's no real reason other than that for why people aren't tuning in anymore.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I think the explanation is pretty simple - lack of star power.
It's the similar problem that the XFL has - it might be football but the players aren't very interesting.
Who is the biggest movie star of today, male or female? The answer just isn't as obvious as it was 5, 10, 20 years ago. So who were people suppose to tune in and see last night? I can't think of anyone.
It's the similar problem that the XFL has - it might be football but the players aren't very interesting.
Who is the biggest movie star of today, male or female? The answer just isn't as obvious as it was 5, 10, 20 years ago. So who were people suppose to tune in and see last night? I can't think of anyone.
GordonGekko
Footballguy
That might be a factor, but in general, I disagree with you here.
1) "Accessibility" - It used to be that someone like Marlon Brando or James Dean was just out of reach. You didn't have 24/7/365 coverage plus social media. The "mystery" behind the iconic movie star is gone. If you like The Rock, you can get your fix non stop. With constant engagement. When you have that much saturation, the Oscars is just another day where someone like The Rock is fighting to get into the national daily media cycle.
2) Jimmy Kimmel was hosting. His previous record with the Oscars is no host has gotten better ratings than with Kimmel. Same with the Emmys. His late night returns have him sometimes coming in 6th or 7th. That means he's losing to 3rd Tier hard news programs. During late night. That's pathetic beyond all measure. Lots of people just don't want to watch Kimmel. And of course, later in the broadcast, he took a personal shot that was going to alienate up to half his potential audience.
3) No one wants to see Hollywood's ego. Angela Bassett refused to stand and clap for Jamie Lee Curtis. One of the directors for EEAAO making a snide comment, that again, operates as a lecture. The Will Smith Slap situation. On the death list, they didn't even bother to put up Paulie Walnuts' picture up there. What's up with that? A lot of those Hollywood people have no idea how they actually sound to regular every day people.
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