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What the heck even happened to Foster anyway? Did he get hurt in practice?
Yes last night at practice.What the heck even happened to Foster anyway? Did he get hurt in practice?
Well, yeah, which means he is the key to this team.I get your point but think it has to do with two things.Not saying, just saying.Hawkeye21 said:Is Foster really the key to this team having a great or crappy year? If Houston really is a decent team then they'll do just fine with another back. We see no-name backs do great every year once given the chance on a good team. If Houston struggles it's because they are not good, not because they don't have Foster. Granted Foster is a special back and may be worth at least one win just because of him.
Warren Sharp @SharpFootball
Since becoming a starter in 2010, the Texans are 2-13 without Arian Foster and 33-20 when he has at least one carry.
1) Foster is a special talent.
2) The team around him isn't that good.
End of the 1st? I'm thinking more like round 8 or so. Sounds like he could miss half the season.ponchsox said:I'm hoping this drops him to the end of the first and I can get Blue to back him up.
No need to hope, he'll be there for you and the rest of your league will really want you to take him.ponchsox said:I'm hoping this drops him to the end of the first and I can get Blue to back him up.
Hey hey, I got to sell Polk for a ransom, that is to say, a 2016 3rd round pick.Lott said:I've been carrying Polk on an expanded offseason roster for just this possibility... Blue is not good. I'm not sure Polk is either, but I am more confident that Blue is not.JohnnyU said:I believe Polk has more talent than Blue and will overtake him sooner than later.
Since when was he going before the end of the first anyway?No need to hope, he'll be there for you and the rest of your league will really want you to take him.ponchsox said:I'm hoping this drops him to the end of the first and I can get Blue to back him up.
He played for a different coaching staff when he was in Houston and has no connection to the current one.I'm surprised we've not heard any Ben Tate rumors.
guess i was wrongHeck of a limb you're going out on there.my guess is they sign pierre thomas
I think you are misreading my post. Never said he was.Since when was he going before the end of the first anyway?No need to hope, he'll be there for you and the rest of your league will really want you to take him.ponchsox said:I'm hoping this drops him to the end of the first and I can get Blue to back him up.
Other than the GM who remains from the old regime. Though of course BOB is going to get a say in things.He played for a different coaching staff when he was in Houston and has no connection to the current one.I'm surprised we've not heard any Ben Tate rumors.
To counter-chatter, there's also plenty of talk of bubble RBs like Hillman and even Michael. Texans could wait till the first round of cuts and see if someone comes available before going into the out-of-work vet market and either paying up for Thomas or signing Bradshaw/Rice/Lawfirm. Maybe they get lucky.Free Ray Rice, people! He is obviously the best candidate for the job outside of what they may have in Polk.
But hey, It's August. Let's stir up some real chatter. How about a Knile Davis or Christine Michael trade to start our football season off?
yep. That's true. Some other team's fallout could be a big play for the Texans and FF.To counter-chatter, there's also plenty of talk of bubble RBs like Hillman and even Michael. Texans could wait till the first round of cuts and see if someone comes available before going into the out-of-work vet market and either paying up for Thomas or signing Bradshaw/Rice/Lawfirm. Maybe they get lucky.Free Ray Rice, people! He is obviously the best candidate for the job outside of what they may have in Polk.
But hey, It's August. Let's stir up some real chatter. How about a Knile Davis or Christine Michael trade to start our football season off?
Yes, I am seeing the sports Hernia thing too. Also seeing "hold down the fort" being tossed out a lot in describing the replacement RB. I guess it is POSSIBLE that the Texans don't IR him and this is something that he misses less time. Probably not. Probably just waiting till they go in and everything is official and they see what they do but sports hernia surgery could be something where we could see Foster by week 4-5 if things shake out well (having surgery on Friday, take a good 8 weeks or so to get better...happening so early could be a benefit).I'm seeing some slightly conflicting reports about exactly what kind of surgery Foster is scheduled to have. Some sports doctor's on twitter have opined that sports hernia surgery has a quicker recovery time than groin muscle repair surgery and there is a chance Foster could be having the former instead of the latter.
Either way the usually reliable John McClain is reporting that Foster will indeed go on the IR/return list so its looking like he won't be available to week 10 at the earliest. But what kind of surgery he has could be a big factor in whether or not he is ready to roll come week 10 or will be limited and compromised.
Didn't Eagles center Kelce have sports hernia surgery in Sept last year and only miss 4 games?
Also, there is a good chance that I have no idea what I'm talking about an this entire post should be ignored....
Great fit but the guy can't stay healthy. Not sure the Texans want to get into that.would like to see ahmad bradshaw in houston
Isn't that exactly what the Texans have been into for the past half-decade? If they don't know how to handle perpetually-questionable-but-productive-when-playing-RBs, no one does!Great fit but the guy can't stay healthy. Not sure the Texans want to get into that.would like to see ahmad bradshaw in houston
I did find that odd. Maybe he doesn't think its worth putting his body through all that for the vet minimum, and would rather retire unless he gets more. But if he's holding out for more, I don't think its likely he's going to see it.Anyone else find it weird that Pierre Thomas 'couldn't agree to terms'? Shouldn't he be happy at nearly 31 to just to have a job at the vet minimum and be on a roster?
Arian Foster - RB - Texans
Arian Foster's Friday surgery will reattach Foster's groin muscle to the bone.
He'll soon be placed on injured reserve-designated for return, shelving Foster through Week 8 -- at which point he'll be eligible to practice -- and keeping him out of games until Week 10. Foster's injury is said to involve a 3-6 month recovery, meaning he's no lock to play even when eligible. After whiffing on free agent Pierre Thomas, the Texans will give younger backs Chris Polk, Alfred Blue, Jonathan Grimes, and Kenny Hilliard chances to earn carries in an RBBC. In a weak offense, Houston's backfield is now one to generally avoid in fantasy drafts.
Source: John McClain on Twitter
Aug 5 - 4:12 PM
Thought the exact same thingAnyone else find it weird that Pierre Thomas 'couldn't agree to terms'? Shouldn't he be happy at nearly 31 to just to have a job at the vet minimum and be on a roster?
Yeah, I made a similar comment to someone today. Just speculating of course, but that's about the only reason I can think of for turning it down. At his level of experience, the vet minimum isn't chicken feed, but maybe the wear and tear isn't worth it to him below a certain amount.I did find that odd. Maybe he doesn't think its worth putting his body through all that for the vet minimum, and would rather retire unless he gets more. But if he's holding out for more, I don't think its likely he's going to see it.Anyone else find it weird that Pierre Thomas 'couldn't agree to terms'? Shouldn't he be happy at nearly 31 to just to have a job at the vet minimum and be on a roster?
Maybe he wanted some sort of guaranteed money that they weren't willing to give him. Maybe the Texans won't to avoid guaranteeing money to a veteran who is on the roster week 1. Seems like quite a roll of the dice but I don't know.Yeah, I made a similar comment to someone today. Just speculating of course, but that's about the only reason I can think of for turning it down. At his level of experience, the vet minimum isn't chicken feed, but maybe the wear and tear isn't worth it to him below a certain amount.I did find that odd. Maybe he doesn't think its worth putting his body through all that for the vet minimum, and would rather retire unless he gets more. But if he's holding out for more, I don't think its likely he's going to see it.Anyone else find it weird that Pierre Thomas 'couldn't agree to terms'? Shouldn't he be happy at nearly 31 to just to have a job at the vet minimum and be on a roster?
Ouch!Rotoworld:
Arian Foster - RB - Texans
Arian Foster's Friday surgery will reattach Foster's groin muscle to the bone.
He'll soon be placed on injured reserve-designated for return, shelving Foster through Week 8 -- at which point he'll be eligible to practice -- and keeping him out of games until Week 10. Foster's injury is said to involve a 3-6 month recovery, meaning he's no lock to play even when eligible. After whiffing on free agent Pierre Thomas, the Texans will give younger backs Chris Polk, Alfred Blue, Jonathan Grimes, and Kenny Hilliard chances to earn carries in an RBBC. In a weak offense, Houston's backfield is now one to generally avoid in fantasy drafts.
Source: John McClain on Twitter
Aug 5 - 4:12 PM
Has it been clarified if he turned them down or if the Texans saw something they didn't like?Maybe he wanted some sort of guaranteed money that they weren't willing to give him. Maybe the Texans won't to avoid guaranteeing money to a veteran who is on the roster week 1. Seems like quite a roll of the dice but I don't know.Yeah, I made a similar comment to someone today. Just speculating of course, but that's about the only reason I can think of for turning it down. At his level of experience, the vet minimum isn't chicken feed, but maybe the wear and tear isn't worth it to him below a certain amount.I did find that odd. Maybe he doesn't think its worth putting his body through all that for the vet minimum, and would rather retire unless he gets more. But if he's holding out for more, I don't think its likely he's going to see it.Anyone else find it weird that Pierre Thomas 'couldn't agree to terms'? Shouldn't he be happy at nearly 31 to just to have a job at the vet minimum and be on a roster?
No, not you, I meant Ponchsox. I was agreeing with you. If someone wants to take him in the late first, be my guest.I think you are misreading my post. Never said he was.Since when was he going before the end of the first anyway?No need to hope, he'll be there for you and the rest of your league will really want you to take him.ponchsox said:I'm hoping this drops him to the end of the first and I can get Blue to back him up.
As far as I could tell he nailed the workout and they wanted him, but they offered the vet minimum.Has it been clarified if he turned them down or if the Texans saw something they didn't like?Maybe he wanted some sort of guaranteed money that they weren't willing to give him. Maybe the Texans won't to avoid guaranteeing money to a veteran who is on the roster week 1. Seems like quite a roll of the dice but I don't know.Yeah, I made a similar comment to someone today. Just speculating of course, but that's about the only reason I can think of for turning it down. At his level of experience, the vet minimum isn't chicken feed, but maybe the wear and tear isn't worth it to him below a certain amount.I did find that odd. Maybe he doesn't think its worth putting his body through all that for the vet minimum, and would rather retire unless he gets more. But if he's holding out for more, I don't think its likely he's going to see it.Anyone else find it weird that Pierre Thomas 'couldn't agree to terms'? Shouldn't he be happy at nearly 31 to just to have a job at the vet minimum and be on a roster?
Thanks for the info. I guess there must be a reason, financially, etc, but I can't imagine the reason is because they feel great about what they got on the roster already.As far as I could tell he nailed the workout and they wanted him, but they offered the vet minimum.Has it been clarified if he turned them down or if the Texans saw something they didn't like?Maybe he wanted some sort of guaranteed money that they weren't willing to give him. Maybe the Texans won't to avoid guaranteeing money to a veteran who is on the roster week 1. Seems like quite a roll of the dice but I don't know.Yeah, I made a similar comment to someone today. Just speculating of course, but that's about the only reason I can think of for turning it down. At his level of experience, the vet minimum isn't chicken feed, but maybe the wear and tear isn't worth it to him below a certain amount.I did find that odd. Maybe he doesn't think its worth putting his body through all that for the vet minimum, and would rather retire unless he gets more. But if he's holding out for more, I don't think its likely he's going to see it.Anyone else find it weird that Pierre Thomas 'couldn't agree to terms'? Shouldn't he be happy at nearly 31 to just to have a job at the vet minimum and be on a roster?
"We aren't gonna win anyway. Do we really want to spend more than that on Pierre ####### Thomas?"Thanks for the info. I guess there must be a reason, financially, etc, but I can't imagine the reason is because they feel great about what they got on the roster already.As far as I could tell he nailed the workout and they wanted him, but they offered the vet minimum.Has it been clarified if he turned them down or if the Texans saw something they didn't like?Maybe he wanted some sort of guaranteed money that they weren't willing to give him. Maybe the Texans won't to avoid guaranteeing money to a veteran who is on the roster week 1. Seems like quite a roll of the dice but I don't know.Yeah, I made a similar comment to someone today. Just speculating of course, but that's about the only reason I can think of for turning it down. At his level of experience, the vet minimum isn't chicken feed, but maybe the wear and tear isn't worth it to him below a certain amount.I did find that odd. Maybe he doesn't think its worth putting his body through all that for the vet minimum, and would rather retire unless he gets more. But if he's holding out for more, I don't think its likely he's going to see it.Anyone else find it weird that Pierre Thomas 'couldn't agree to terms'? Shouldn't he be happy at nearly 31 to just to have a job at the vet minimum and be on a roster?
This early, why not hold out for more? Being preseason, I think it's smart to try and get more. As one of the top FA options, his risk that he won't have another league minimum offer is pretty low.Thanks for the info. I guess there must be a reason, financially, etc, but I can't imagine the reason is because they feel great about what they got on the roster already.As far as I could tell he nailed the workout and they wanted him, but they offered the vet minimum.Has it been clarified if he turned them down or if the Texans saw something they didn't like?Maybe he wanted some sort of guaranteed money that they weren't willing to give him. Maybe the Texans won't to avoid guaranteeing money to a veteran who is on the roster week 1. Seems like quite a roll of the dice but I don't know.Yeah, I made a similar comment to someone today. Just speculating of course, but that's about the only reason I can think of for turning it down. At his level of experience, the vet minimum isn't chicken feed, but maybe the wear and tear isn't worth it to him below a certain amount.I did find that odd. Maybe he doesn't think its worth putting his body through all that for the vet minimum, and would rather retire unless he gets more. But if he's holding out for more, I don't think its likely he's going to see it.Anyone else find it weird that Pierre Thomas 'couldn't agree to terms'? Shouldn't he be happy at nearly 31 to just to have a job at the vet minimum and be on a roster?
Thanks for the info. I guess there must be a reason, financially, etc, but I can't imagine the reason is because they feel great about what they got on the roster already.
Updating a previous item, free agent Pierre Thomas' agent said Thomas will not be signing with the Texans.
It was reported earlier Wednesday that Thomas would be signing the dotted line with the Texans. But according to Thomas' agent, Lamont Smith, the two sides "were unable to agree to terms." It's highly likely the Texans were offering Thomas the veteran's minimum, while Thomas' camp feels he's worth more. Aug 5 - 12:42 PM
The Texans could revisit talks with free agent RB Pierre Thomas.
Thomas turned down a veteran-minimum deal, but could still be signed if Houston increases their offer. The Texans are prepared to move forward with Chris Polk, Alfred Blue, Jonathan Grimes, and Kenny Hilliard competing for early-season carries. Thomas is open to playing for less than $2 million. Aug 5 - 6:27 PM
So he has a sports hernia?Doctor: Arian Foster should be back to full form in two to three months
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2015/08/doctor-arian-foster-should-be-back-to-full-form-in-two-to-three-months/#34785101=0
Bah... Read the article and it's quoting someone who's not even part of his procedure to verify the extent of the damage..So he has a sports hernia?Doctor: Arian Foster should be back to full form in two to three months
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2015/08/doctor-arian-foster-should-be-back-to-full-form-in-two-to-three-months/#34785101=0
Probably not offering any guaranteed money so they can cut him if Polk pans out. Isn't Polk just a younger, better version of Pierre anyway? If Polk does was Polk is capable of doing, would Pierre make it to the regular season?This early, why not hold out for more? Being preseason, I think it's smart to try and get more. As one of the top FA options, his risk that he won't have another league minimum offer is pretty low.Thanks for the info. I guess there must be a reason, financially, etc, but I can't imagine the reason is because they feel great about what they got on the roster already.As far as I could tell he nailed the workout and they wanted him, but they offered the vet minimum.Has it been clarified if he turned them down or if the Texans saw something they didn't like?Maybe he wanted some sort of guaranteed money that they weren't willing to give him. Maybe the Texans won't to avoid guaranteeing money to a veteran who is on the roster week 1. Seems like quite a roll of the dice but I don't know.Yeah, I made a similar comment to someone today. Just speculating of course, but that's about the only reason I can think of for turning it down. At his level of experience, the vet minimum isn't chicken feed, but maybe the wear and tear isn't worth it to him below a certain amount.I did find that odd. Maybe he doesn't think its worth putting his body through all that for the vet minimum, and would rather retire unless he gets more. But if he's holding out for more, I don't think its likely he's going to see it.Anyone else find it weird that Pierre Thomas 'couldn't agree to terms'? Shouldn't he be happy at nearly 31 to just to have a job at the vet minimum and be on a roster?
Good for him.I guess Arian will not be praying for a speedy recovery...
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13369076/houston-texans-arian-foster-goes-public-not-believing-god
With that, he displays his talent as a master of the eloquent shrug and leans back in an office chair in a back bedroom that he's turned into a recording and writing studio. The house, a rental, is modest for a man working on a five-year, $43.5 million contract. There's a Range Rover in the driveway but no fleet. "I don't want or need much," he says. "Just something fairly safe for the kids to grow up around, and that's about it, really. The rest is luxury, fluff. I've saved about 80 percent of what I've made, and I will continue that. I won't have to work when I'm done -- live off the interest, put my kids through college, let them have the money when I'm in a box and call it a day, man."
That makes the most sense. I am sure Pierre has a decent nest egg and figures why go through the hell of training camp and learn a new offense just to get cut and make a minimal amount of money.Probably not offering any guaranteed money so they can cut him if Polk pans out. Isn't Polk just a younger, better version of Pierre anyway? If Polk does was Polk is capable of doing, would Pierre make it to the regular season?This early, why not hold out for more? Being preseason, I think it's smart to try and get more. As one of the top FA options, his risk that he won't have another league minimum offer is pretty low.Thanks for the info. I guess there must be a reason, financially, etc, but I can't imagine the reason is because they feel great about what they got on the roster already.As far as I could tell he nailed the workout and they wanted him, but they offered the vet minimum.Has it been clarified if he turned them down or if the Texans saw something they didn't like?Maybe he wanted some sort of guaranteed money that they weren't willing to give him. Maybe the Texans won't to avoid guaranteeing money to a veteran who is on the roster week 1. Seems like quite a roll of the dice but I don't know.Yeah, I made a similar comment to someone today. Just speculating of course, but that's about the only reason I can think of for turning it down. At his level of experience, the vet minimum isn't chicken feed, but maybe the wear and tear isn't worth it to him below a certain amount.I did find that odd. Maybe he doesn't think its worth putting his body through all that for the vet minimum, and would rather retire unless he gets more. But if he's holding out for more, I don't think its likely he's going to see it.Anyone else find it weird that Pierre Thomas 'couldn't agree to terms'? Shouldn't he be happy at nearly 31 to just to have a job at the vet minimum and be on a roster?
So what's his username here?"Arian is going to voice his thoughts whether you want them or not, or whether you ask for them or not," says Forsett
I agree. Regardless of one's religious views I appreciate his thoughtfulness and willingness to stand out in front on a controversial issue.Good for him.I guess Arian will not be praying for a speedy recovery...
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13369076/houston-texans-arian-foster-goes-public-not-believing-god
What a pity there aren't more athletes like him setting this kind of positive example for kids and adults alike.VaTerp said:I guess Arian will not be praying for a speedy recovery...
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13369076/houston-texans-arian-foster-goes-public-not-believing-god