IvanKaramazov
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Of course.
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Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
In any case, I am psyched for the endorsement.And for the last two Pennsylvania polls with three full weeks to go - one showed a 12 point gap and the other showed a 5 point gap. If Obama can shrink the Penn deficit on election day to the 5-7 range, that should be considered a victory.
Interesting occurrence in my neighborhood in Rhode Island. Someone went around stealing all the Hilary signs. Not the wire pieces that they hang on, just the plastic banners. At first I figured it had to be Obama folks, but then I wondered why since the R.I,. primary is over what does it matter? Maybe it is Hilary supporters saving a buck for the ongoing campaign?
Sweet J
Footballguy
Where do you live in RI?
Cool.Obama to be live on Harball tonight for the full hour. 5pm EST, re-air at 7pm on MSNBC.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Chris has Barack live on his show all by himself? Didn't know they allow pornography on regular TV these days. Cable news must be really trying to get new viewers.That was a dig at Matthews. Not Obama. Lighten up.Obama to be live on Harball tonight for the full hour. 5pm EST, re-air at 7pm on MSNBC.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Providence - East Side.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Chris Mathews' head might explode in all the rainbow colors - kinda like a Skittles commercial.I expect a lot of stroking here and not much hardball [please insert obvious ball and.or hard joke here]Cool.Obama to be live on Harball tonight for the full hour. 5pm EST, re-air at 7pm on MSNBC.
Jeremy
Footballguy
Yeah, it's pretty obvious he supports Obama. He is having McCain on soon also and they've extended an invitation to Clinton. So at least they're all getting equal time as far as this thing goes.Chris has Barack live on his show all by himself? Didn't know they allow pornography on regular TV these days. Cable news must be really trying to get new viewers.That was a dig at Matthews. Not Obama. Lighten up.Obama to be live on Harball tonight for the full hour. 5pm EST, re-air at 7pm on MSNBC.
Sweet J
Footballguy
ahh. makes sense. I used to slum it at RIC. Still head to pawtucket now and again. Strange town.
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...0100885_pf.html
Man, I'd have loved to listen in on that conversation with Hillary.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
I still don't understand why he endorsed Obama when it does the least amount of good. About a week before the Texas primary would have made an impact.
adonis
Footballguy
Sweet J
Footballguy
He said it was directly related to Obama's speach on race. I tend to take him at his word on that.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
That is a most interesting conversation with Mr. Richardson and once again portrays Hilary as a less than gracious candidate when the chips are down.
All Your Base Are Belong To Us
Footballguy
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Probably an anomaly, but things are definitely trending our boy's way.
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
Yeah, definitely an anomaly. BUT, pub pol poll peeps have been spot on in a number of races. They were the closest in the pre-primary predictions (holy hell alliteration), anyway, they were the closest in predicting SC, WI, OH, and TX. So, i'll be interested to see what their updated polls look like in the coming weeks. The most encouraging news is that ALL polls are trending towards a closer PA race than originally expected.Probably an anomaly, but things are definitely trending our boy's way.
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fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
I don't. I think he was waiting to make sure he endorsed the winning candidate.
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/02/h...ob_n_94770.html
ABC News reports:
Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and former President Bill Clinton are making very direct arguments to Democratic superdelegates, starkly insisting Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., cannot win a general election against presumptive Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.
Sources with direct knowledge of the conversation between Sen. Clinton and Governer Bill Richardson, D-N.M., prior to the Governor's endorsement of Obama say she told him flatly, "He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win."
I want to punch her in the neck.
ABC News reports:
Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and former President Bill Clinton are making very direct arguments to Democratic superdelegates, starkly insisting Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., cannot win a general election against presumptive Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.
Sources with direct knowledge of the conversation between Sen. Clinton and Governer Bill Richardson, D-N.M., prior to the Governor's endorsement of Obama say she told him flatly, "He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win."
I want to punch her in the neck.
the moops
Footballguy
I thought you lived in CO?I am confused...or druknk.
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
can i kick her in the back of da teef first?
All Your Base Are Belong To Us
Footballguy
I wonder if he laughed in her face when she told him this.Apparently some of the current conversations the Clintons have had with superdelegates have been a bit bizarre.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Obama's 'restraint'
One of Obama's advantages in this campaign is his campaign's ability to hit Clinton hard without getting the kind of blowback for going negative that's really become part of Clinton's image.
Asked about this by the Philadelphia Daily News's Dave Davies, Obama offered a glimpse of strategy, and blamed Clinton's conference calls for his campaign's harsh tone on Clinton's character, her secrecy, and her claims of experience.
He also seemed to draw a line between his staff's words -- site of the sharpest attacks -- and his own statements and ads:
“This is a tension that we have at this stage in the campaign. Once Senator Clinton employed what her own staff called her kitchen sink strategy, they were having a morning call, every morning, in which they were driving the media to negative stories, and at a certain point I think my staff felt concerned that if that’s all everybody was hearing every morning, we weren’t going to be able to get our message out. As you said, what I’ve tried to do is be consistent in terms of my statements and television commercials, and I don’t think that we have crossed the line, but I think that there’s no doubt that I prefer to have a debate about policy.”
“When your staff saw the need to do that, did you personally say, go ahead?” [Davies] asked.
Obama shook his head and waved his hand. “Look, I think that national politics, as a I was aware of, and discovered even more, can be a contact sport. We’ve definitely been absorbing a lot more blows than we’ve been giving. We’ve shown great restraint during the course of this campaign. So much so that as you will recall, there were constant cries from columnists and pundits all across the country suggesting that, you know, I might be too nice to be able to win this. So we try to strike that balance. My criteria is making sure that whatever it is that say is truthful and honest and is related to policy.”
One thing this primary has done: pretty well dispelled the notion that he can't take, or throw, a punch.
One of Obama's advantages in this campaign is his campaign's ability to hit Clinton hard without getting the kind of blowback for going negative that's really become part of Clinton's image.
Asked about this by the Philadelphia Daily News's Dave Davies, Obama offered a glimpse of strategy, and blamed Clinton's conference calls for his campaign's harsh tone on Clinton's character, her secrecy, and her claims of experience.
He also seemed to draw a line between his staff's words -- site of the sharpest attacks -- and his own statements and ads:
“This is a tension that we have at this stage in the campaign. Once Senator Clinton employed what her own staff called her kitchen sink strategy, they were having a morning call, every morning, in which they were driving the media to negative stories, and at a certain point I think my staff felt concerned that if that’s all everybody was hearing every morning, we weren’t going to be able to get our message out. As you said, what I’ve tried to do is be consistent in terms of my statements and television commercials, and I don’t think that we have crossed the line, but I think that there’s no doubt that I prefer to have a debate about policy.”
“When your staff saw the need to do that, did you personally say, go ahead?” [Davies] asked.
Obama shook his head and waved his hand. “Look, I think that national politics, as a I was aware of, and discovered even more, can be a contact sport. We’ve definitely been absorbing a lot more blows than we’ve been giving. We’ve shown great restraint during the course of this campaign. So much so that as you will recall, there were constant cries from columnists and pundits all across the country suggesting that, you know, I might be too nice to be able to win this. So we try to strike that balance. My criteria is making sure that whatever it is that say is truthful and honest and is related to policy.”
One thing this primary has done: pretty well dispelled the notion that he can't take, or throw, a punch.
skol asylum
Footballguy
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
They have about an 18 minute video of it up too. pretty candid and interesting. Guess i didnt expect to hear a lot of new thoughts at this point in the race. on a side note, something i found interesting; the typical video on MSNBC, or anywhere for that matter is about 2-3 minutes. During some of the more interesting discussions, they go up to 8-10 minutes. This is the 1st 18 minute video clip i've seen in a while on there.Mr. Superunkn0wn said:
Sweet J
Footballguy
Green and Gold
Footballguy
It doesn't really matter. By the time the general election rolls around, Clinton supporters will have forgotten their hate. It's why having Obama take all these punches now is good. It's like GWB admitting his prolific coke use when he was younger, it took the punch out of what would have been a major deal had it been discovered mid-campaign.
My Hope Street Alias
Footballguy
Probably an anomaly, but things are definitely trending our boy's way.
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
saw a quote from HRC's campaign that says she raised about $20mil. No link, but it was just a quote from an aide, so no guarantee for accuracy anyway. Thats great for her, as she can now use 14 mil of it to pay off her debts.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Either way, I can see that affecting his decision but not the timing of his announcement.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Full Meltdown Alert.
She doesn't have a whole lot of leverage at this point, and she needs to be pretty convincing that Obama can't win. She's running out of time, and delegates. Right now, about the only reason I can see for her argument is the swing states, and that's grasping.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Not only does PPP show Obama with a 2 pt lead in Penn, but his bulge in NC has swelled to 18 points (among 1100 likely voters - the largest sampling yet in that state)
Moreover, the PPP poll in Penn was of 1224 LVs - which was the third largest sampling so far in Pennsylvania. Additionally, a more recent poll by Insider Advantage of 659 LVs shows Clinton with only a 3 point lead.
With nearly three weeks to go, Obama could pull a miracle and take Pennsylvania, which would be the final nail in Hilary's coffin, She would not be able to say he failed to take the big states (as he would have taken Texas and Penn), and she would lose even more superdelegates if she loses both Penn and NC.
The moops - I moved from Colorado last September to Providence.
Moreover, the PPP poll in Penn was of 1224 LVs - which was the third largest sampling so far in Pennsylvania. Additionally, a more recent poll by Insider Advantage of 659 LVs shows Clinton with only a 3 point lead.
With nearly three weeks to go, Obama could pull a miracle and take Pennsylvania, which would be the final nail in Hilary's coffin, She would not be able to say he failed to take the big states (as he would have taken Texas and Penn), and she would lose even more superdelegates if she loses both Penn and NC.
The moops - I moved from Colorado last September to Providence.
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the moops
Footballguy
I think most of what she raised can only be used if she gets to the general. In other words, it is the same millionaires who donated again.
Andrew Sullivan's blog suggests she'll likely release them Friday, since the media won't focus on them as much at the end of a news week.
saintfool
Dead sexy
That's kind of interesting. I saw something in the news last week about how HRC has had problems paying her bills lately. She's loaned herself money again, I think.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
Good thing Bill's made 65 million speaking since he left office.
flufhed
Footballguy
Hawt.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
I knew as soon as I typed it that someone would make a funny out of that.
Orange Crush
Footballguy
What Hillary Is Hiding
Her tax records, pork...
By Amanda Kathryn Hydro
Her tax records, pork...
By Amanda Kathryn Hydro
"I think I’m probably the most transparent person in public life," Sen. Hillary Clinton recently declared. [Me:
Much like her husband’s infamous Monica Lewinsky testimony, in which then-President Bill Clinton haggled, "It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is," Hillary’s claim depends on what her definition of "transparent" is.
If Sen. Clinton thinks she’s transparent now that thousands of pages of scheduling records from her days as first lady have been released — because the group Judicial Watch and others sued to have them made public — sure, she’s transparent.
And if not disclosing her sources of income and sharing her tax returns since leaving the White House equals transparency, then yes, those Clintons are one transparent couple. On government disclosure forms, Sen. Clinton reports they have assets worth somewhere between $10 million and $50 million. That’s a lot of paid speeches and book sales. For a point of contrast, Sen. Barack Obama’s reported belongings, on the same disclosure forms, are worth between $456,000 and $1.1 million.
How have the Clintons amassed most of their wealth since leaving the White House? Where did that $5 million that Sen. Clinton pumped into her own campaign earlier this year come from? Who has donated to the presidential library’s coffers?
If Sen. Clinton really were the "most transparent" public official in the country, we’d know the answers to these questions. Instead her campaign hems and haws and says they’ll try to release some tax returns on or around April 15.
And then there’s the transparency that every taxpayer is interested in: How is Sen. Clinton spending our tax dollars?
The Los Angeles Times reports "Clinton has earmarked more than $2.3 billion in federal appropriations for projects" since joining the Senate. The Times also points out that it’s lucrative to be a Clinton contributor, reporting, "Since taking office in 2001, Clinton has delivered $500 million worth of earmarks that have specifically benefited 59 corporations. About 64 percent of those corporations provided funds to her campaigns through donations made by employees, executives, board members or lobbyists."
Earmarks are often wasteful pork projects that pump federal taxpayer money into states and congressional districts at the specific request of congress members.
In a recent Senate vote, Clinton and Obama joined Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, who has long fought against pork and earmarks, in supporting a one-year moratorium on earmarks. (Of course in DC, not even three presidential candidates can beat pork; the earmarks moratorium went down in flames in the Senate, 71-29.)
McCain doesn’t request earmarks. And Obama upped the disclosure pressure on Clinton by releasing all of his earmark requests — including the ones that weren’t approved — since he joined the Senate. Clinton refuses to do the same. Call it Clintonian transparency.
Last year, the Reason Foundation, a free-market think tank that has advised the last four presidents, joined with a diverse, bipartisan coalition of 35 groups to ask each of the presidential candidates to sign an "Oath of Presidential Transparency."
The oath commits the candidate, if elected, to sign an executive order in his or her first 30 days requiring the executive branch to adhere to the principles of Google government. This basically means the executive branch would post expenditures, earmarks, contracts and grants in a transparent, searchable database online so citizens can see how their money is spent.
Sen. Obama immediately signed the oath last August. Sen. McCain and Sen. Clinton haven’t.
McCain, at least, has a well-earned Senate reputation for fighting ferociously against pork-barrel spending by both parties. Clinton, on the other hand, has no real record of transparency.
Clinton’s refusal to sign the oath of transparency, coupled with her missing tax returns and aversion to share her pork-project requests, suggests that she hasn’t passed the threshold test for calling herself transparent.
Amanda Kathryn Hydro is director of policy development at Reason Foundation. Reason Foundation's "oath of presidential transparency," signed by Sen. Barack Obama and Rep. Ron Paul, among others, is online here. This column first appeared in The New York Post on March 22, 2008.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Looks like Carter is for Obama:
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
Well sure, i think most people can see right through her BS lines and...what? Oh, the good kind of transparency, yeah sure Hill, whatever you sayOrange Crush said:What Hillary Is Hiding
Her tax records, pork...
By Amanda Kathryn Hydro
"I think I’m probably the most transparent person in public life," Sen. Hillary Clinton recently declared. [Me:
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roadkill1292
Footballguy
Voluntarily or do you have a rare disease and the only clinic is in Rhode Island?Marc Levin said:
Orange Crush
Footballguy
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
Dear Hillary,
THE END IS NEAR
Just recently, all of the following have contributed to, or are signs of, the growing desperation within the Clinton campaign:
- Bill Richardson, close friend of the Clinton's endorsed Obama
- The profiles of newly "acquired" endorsements for Obama keeps getting larger - From former governors and reps to current governors, senate members, and even a former president
- Pledged Clinton Superdelegates Corzine and Murtha are starting to hedge/qualify their endorsements
- Multiple Clinton Superdelegates have said recently that they feel Obama will win
- All polls of PA Democrats show Obama gaining ground at an alarming rate
- Tim Russert dove into the electoral numbers and showed that any of the 3 remaining candidates have a clear path to the nomination. Thus, the electability argument is beginning to fall apart
- Bill Clinton recently "blew up" in a closed door, superdelegate meeting. This just moments before his "chill out" speech.
- Richardson claims Hillary told him that "Obama cant win". Hillary now disputes that. If you have has seen the footage of this denial, its fairly obvious that she is like the little kid denying that they ate the candy bar (with chocolate all over their face)
- Hillary is now pushing the notion that even pledged delegates are up for grabs. A move that virtually all pundits and news anchors are calling desperate
- Hillary has compared herself to Paul Revere and Rocky in the past 3 days
- Obama once again outdid Hillary in the fundraising dept. If the breakdown of previous months hold true to March, Hillary raised only about $7-9 mil for the primary battle (the rest is earmarked for the general). Seeing as how she is $9 mil in debt, plus $5 mil to her own pocketbook, it appears Hillarys bank account may force her out before any Democrat big wig steps in
- Hillary's mortgage foreclosure freeze plan is widely viewed by economists as dangerous and more hurtful than helpful
-
THE END IS NEAR
Just recently, all of the following have contributed to, or are signs of, the growing desperation within the Clinton campaign:
- Bill Richardson, close friend of the Clinton's endorsed Obama
- The profiles of newly "acquired" endorsements for Obama keeps getting larger - From former governors and reps to current governors, senate members, and even a former president
- Pledged Clinton Superdelegates Corzine and Murtha are starting to hedge/qualify their endorsements
- Multiple Clinton Superdelegates have said recently that they feel Obama will win
- All polls of PA Democrats show Obama gaining ground at an alarming rate
- Tim Russert dove into the electoral numbers and showed that any of the 3 remaining candidates have a clear path to the nomination. Thus, the electability argument is beginning to fall apart
- Bill Clinton recently "blew up" in a closed door, superdelegate meeting. This just moments before his "chill out" speech.
- Richardson claims Hillary told him that "Obama cant win". Hillary now disputes that. If you have has seen the footage of this denial, its fairly obvious that she is like the little kid denying that they ate the candy bar (with chocolate all over their face)
- Hillary is now pushing the notion that even pledged delegates are up for grabs. A move that virtually all pundits and news anchors are calling desperate
- Hillary has compared herself to Paul Revere and Rocky in the past 3 days
- Obama once again outdid Hillary in the fundraising dept. If the breakdown of previous months hold true to March, Hillary raised only about $7-9 mil for the primary battle (the rest is earmarked for the general). Seeing as how she is $9 mil in debt, plus $5 mil to her own pocketbook, it appears Hillarys bank account may force her out before any Democrat big wig steps in
- Hillary's mortgage foreclosure freeze plan is widely viewed by economists as dangerous and more hurtful than helpful
-
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
To most educated and/or logical people with common sense, yes. To Hill and her die hards, unfortunately not
All Your Base Are Belong To Us
Footballguy
Clifton
Footballguy
We haven't given up yet.
