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bakes
I am the Beer God!
Some people come up with things from out of left field. KAA comes up with things from in a dinghy with one oar in the middle of a pond fifteen miles down a dirt road connected to a forgotten bypass leading to the boarded up entrance of an abandoned stadium's left field.
jaybebo
Footballguy
He is probably debating with his VP to be come his VP...
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
kaa
Footballguy
Quoted for posterity.
Gopher State
Footballguy
Biden has deep ties to Rezko accomplice
JOSEPH CARI | 30-year friend of VP pick guilty in kickback scheme
August 25, 2008
BY DAVE MCKINNEY Staff Reporter/dmckinney@suntimes.com
DENVER -- No matter what help Barack Obama might get from Sen. Joseph Biden, his newly named vice presidential running mate won't give Obama much cover on the Tony Rezko front.
Biden has described himself as a 30-year friend of a key figure in the Rezko trial who's pleaded guilty to a federal extortion charge in Chicago and is awaiting sentencing.
When the Delaware senator began contemplating his own 2008 presidential run, he initially was helped by Chicago lawyer Joseph Cari Jr., who also served as Biden's Midwest field director in his failed 1988 bid for president.
In 2005, Cari admitted to taking part in an $850,000 kickback scheme that prosecutors say was part of a larger political fund-raising operation for Gov. Blagojevich overseen by Rezko, who was convicted in June of wide-ranging corruption involving state deals.
On the day Cari's name first surfaced in the federal probe of the state Teachers Retirement System, the former finance chairman for the Democratic National Committee and for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee was to have hosted a Biden fund-raiser in Chicago. Cari was a no-show at that July 25, 2005, event.
Offering Cari a vote of confidence at the time, Biden said, "All I know is Joe Cari is a friend, and he's an honorable guy, but I don't know anything beyond that."
Biden took $2,000 in campaign contributions from Cari in the early and mid-1990s, federal campaign-finance records show.
Two other donors whose names surfaced in the Rezko case -- Chicago lawyers Myron "Mike" Cherry and Anthony Licata -- donated to Biden's U.S. Senate campaign, as well. Cherry has given Biden $5,900, while Licata gave $1,000. Neither Cherry nor Licata has been accused of any criminal wrongdoing.
Earlier this year, in a bid to distance Obama from Rezko, the Illinois senator's campaign fund gave away to charity an amount equal to what had been contributed to the Democratic presidential hopeful by Cari, Cherry and Licata.
The Obama campaign downplayed the significance of Cari's contributions to Biden, noting that Cari was a prolific donor to an array of other politicians, from Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) to Illinois' other Democratic senator, **** Durbin.
Still, an Obama spokesman said Biden would follow Obama's lead and divest his campaign fund of any money from Cari.
"As the former national finance director for the DSCC and DNC, Mr. Cari was a fund-raiser for many prominent elected officials," spokesman Ben LaBolt said. "If any contributions from Mr. Cari have not been returned or donated it is an oversight, and they will be immediately."
Related Blog Posts It’s Official: Obama Chooses Biden
I guess when you pick someone with 30 years old school Washington politics this is what you get for v.p.
JOSEPH CARI | 30-year friend of VP pick guilty in kickback scheme
August 25, 2008
BY DAVE MCKINNEY Staff Reporter/dmckinney@suntimes.com
DENVER -- No matter what help Barack Obama might get from Sen. Joseph Biden, his newly named vice presidential running mate won't give Obama much cover on the Tony Rezko front.
Biden has described himself as a 30-year friend of a key figure in the Rezko trial who's pleaded guilty to a federal extortion charge in Chicago and is awaiting sentencing.
When the Delaware senator began contemplating his own 2008 presidential run, he initially was helped by Chicago lawyer Joseph Cari Jr., who also served as Biden's Midwest field director in his failed 1988 bid for president.
In 2005, Cari admitted to taking part in an $850,000 kickback scheme that prosecutors say was part of a larger political fund-raising operation for Gov. Blagojevich overseen by Rezko, who was convicted in June of wide-ranging corruption involving state deals.
On the day Cari's name first surfaced in the federal probe of the state Teachers Retirement System, the former finance chairman for the Democratic National Committee and for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee was to have hosted a Biden fund-raiser in Chicago. Cari was a no-show at that July 25, 2005, event.
Offering Cari a vote of confidence at the time, Biden said, "All I know is Joe Cari is a friend, and he's an honorable guy, but I don't know anything beyond that."
Biden took $2,000 in campaign contributions from Cari in the early and mid-1990s, federal campaign-finance records show.
Two other donors whose names surfaced in the Rezko case -- Chicago lawyers Myron "Mike" Cherry and Anthony Licata -- donated to Biden's U.S. Senate campaign, as well. Cherry has given Biden $5,900, while Licata gave $1,000. Neither Cherry nor Licata has been accused of any criminal wrongdoing.
Earlier this year, in a bid to distance Obama from Rezko, the Illinois senator's campaign fund gave away to charity an amount equal to what had been contributed to the Democratic presidential hopeful by Cari, Cherry and Licata.
The Obama campaign downplayed the significance of Cari's contributions to Biden, noting that Cari was a prolific donor to an array of other politicians, from Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) to Illinois' other Democratic senator, **** Durbin.
Still, an Obama spokesman said Biden would follow Obama's lead and divest his campaign fund of any money from Cari.
"As the former national finance director for the DSCC and DNC, Mr. Cari was a fund-raiser for many prominent elected officials," spokesman Ben LaBolt said. "If any contributions from Mr. Cari have not been returned or donated it is an oversight, and they will be immediately."
Related Blog Posts It’s Official: Obama Chooses Biden
I guess when you pick someone with 30 years old school Washington politics this is what you get for v.p.
adonis
Footballguy
Tenuous ties at best to corrupt people? Yeah, sounds like he's busted.
flufhed
Footballguy
**sigh**
flufhed
Footballguy
Seriously, if he had just chosen Hillary Clinton he could have totally steered clear of all these messy issues regarding donations from questionable characters.
Seriously, if he had just chosen Hillary Clinton he could have totally steered clear of all these messy issues regarding donations from questionable characters.
Trey
Footballguy
It is really tough to watch MSNBC with Olbermann & Matthews. Even as an Obama fan.
Scarborough claims that the McCain camp is feeling a little better about their chances. So what does Olbermann do? Bring up the USA Today poll that shows McCain losing ground. It makes you want to reach through the screen and strangle him and ask him about every other national poll that has this race down to around 3 points or so...
Why can't the world even be slightly objective?
Scarborough claims that the McCain camp is feeling a little better about their chances. So what does Olbermann do? Bring up the USA Today poll that shows McCain losing ground. It makes you want to reach through the screen and strangle him and ask him about every other national poll that has this race down to around 3 points or so...
Why can't the world even be slightly objective?
timschochet
Footballguy
For the entertainment and enjoyment of the FFA, I happily present to you the "Barack Obama" entry for WWW. Conservapedia. Com:
Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (allegedly born in Honolulu,[1][2] August 4, 1961) is the presumptive 2008 nominee of the Democratic Party for president.[3] Obama has served as a freshman Democratic Senator from Illinois for three and a half years. On August 23 he chose Joe Biden as his running mate. In 2007, Obama was the most liberal Senator.[4] If elected, Obama would be the first Affirmative Action President.
Obama on the campaign trail, stands with folded hands while Bill Richardson and Hillary Clinton honor the flag while placing their hands over their heart during the National Anthem.Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States, which of course has only 50 states.[5] He could never explain where the false number of 57 came from, but it has been observed that there are 57 Islamic states and Obama was educated at an Islamic grade school while he lived in an Islamic country.[6]
Obama's middle name, "Hussein", means "a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad."[7] After he became politically ambitious, he declared himself to be a Christian, yet he never replaced his Muslim name with a Christian one as most do when they undergo a religious conversion,[8] casting doubt on his politically self-serving claim.[9] Obama downplays his Islamic background by claiming that his Kenyan Muslim father was a "confirmed atheist" before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics or non-religious.[10] There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in Massachusetts from 1988 to 1991. Finally, Obama abruptly left his church in Chicago in 2008 when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join.
Asked to explain why working-class Democrats do not support him while campaigning for the Pennsylvania primary, Obama replied "it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."[11] In response to outrage when his remarks were unexpectedly publicized, Obama replied, I "didn't say it as well as I should have."[12]
To counter the view by many that Obama is an elitist, he began running campaign ads claiming that he "worked his way through college and Harvard Law." This claim was an exaggeration as Obama only held summer jobs while in college and law school[13], and he would have likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students.
Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago; in fact, he held the position of "Senior Lecturer."[14][15] [16][17] For most of his time there he was regarded by the university as a professor.[18]
In his 1995 memoir, Dreams of my Father, Obama admitted doing illegal drugs, including cocaine and marijuana, which he referred to as "blow" and "pot" respectively, in his high school years and into his college years, before claiming to choose a different path in life.[19][20]
Obama wore an American flag lapel pin after 9/11, but later stopped wearing it without adequate explanation.[21] Presumably it would have hurt him with anti-military campaign donors.[22] Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering.
In his memoirs, Obama claimed a Life magazine article about a man who had become ill after trying to lighten his skin color by chemical means had a major impact on him. In fact, Life never published any such article.[23][24]
Obama falsely claimed that he "had an uncle who was one of the — who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps. And the story in our family was that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn't leave the house for six months."[25] In fact, the Soviet army liberated Auschwitz. Embarrassed, the Obama campaign later admitted that Obama was wrong, and claimed he should have said that Obama's great-uncle helped liberate a subcamp of Buchenwald.[26]
Obama said that "[t]here was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born." In fact, Obama was born in 1961 and the Selma march took place in 1965.[27]
Obama states that he has consistently opposed the Iraq War since 2002, a claim and position that former President Bill Clinton criticized as "the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen."[28]
Obama's campaign "is proud to be actively participating in over 60 local and state wide homosexual Pride events over the summer."[29]
Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (allegedly born in Honolulu,[1][2] August 4, 1961) is the presumptive 2008 nominee of the Democratic Party for president.[3] Obama has served as a freshman Democratic Senator from Illinois for three and a half years. On August 23 he chose Joe Biden as his running mate. In 2007, Obama was the most liberal Senator.[4] If elected, Obama would be the first Affirmative Action President.
Obama on the campaign trail, stands with folded hands while Bill Richardson and Hillary Clinton honor the flag while placing their hands over their heart during the National Anthem.Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States, which of course has only 50 states.[5] He could never explain where the false number of 57 came from, but it has been observed that there are 57 Islamic states and Obama was educated at an Islamic grade school while he lived in an Islamic country.[6]
Obama's middle name, "Hussein", means "a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad."[7] After he became politically ambitious, he declared himself to be a Christian, yet he never replaced his Muslim name with a Christian one as most do when they undergo a religious conversion,[8] casting doubt on his politically self-serving claim.[9] Obama downplays his Islamic background by claiming that his Kenyan Muslim father was a "confirmed atheist" before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics or non-religious.[10] There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in Massachusetts from 1988 to 1991. Finally, Obama abruptly left his church in Chicago in 2008 when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join.
Asked to explain why working-class Democrats do not support him while campaigning for the Pennsylvania primary, Obama replied "it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."[11] In response to outrage when his remarks were unexpectedly publicized, Obama replied, I "didn't say it as well as I should have."[12]
To counter the view by many that Obama is an elitist, he began running campaign ads claiming that he "worked his way through college and Harvard Law." This claim was an exaggeration as Obama only held summer jobs while in college and law school[13], and he would have likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students.
Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago; in fact, he held the position of "Senior Lecturer."[14][15] [16][17] For most of his time there he was regarded by the university as a professor.[18]
In his 1995 memoir, Dreams of my Father, Obama admitted doing illegal drugs, including cocaine and marijuana, which he referred to as "blow" and "pot" respectively, in his high school years and into his college years, before claiming to choose a different path in life.[19][20]
Obama wore an American flag lapel pin after 9/11, but later stopped wearing it without adequate explanation.[21] Presumably it would have hurt him with anti-military campaign donors.[22] Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering.
In his memoirs, Obama claimed a Life magazine article about a man who had become ill after trying to lighten his skin color by chemical means had a major impact on him. In fact, Life never published any such article.[23][24]
Obama falsely claimed that he "had an uncle who was one of the — who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps. And the story in our family was that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn't leave the house for six months."[25] In fact, the Soviet army liberated Auschwitz. Embarrassed, the Obama campaign later admitted that Obama was wrong, and claimed he should have said that Obama's great-uncle helped liberate a subcamp of Buchenwald.[26]
Obama said that "[t]here was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born." In fact, Obama was born in 1961 and the Selma march took place in 1965.[27]
Obama states that he has consistently opposed the Iraq War since 2002, a claim and position that former President Bill Clinton criticized as "the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen."[28]
Obama's campaign "is proud to be actively participating in over 60 local and state wide homosexual Pride events over the summer."[29]
Bottomfeeder Sports
Footballguy
Thanks for the constant reminders that Obama is the only choice for 2008!
timschochet
Footballguy
Of course anyone who reads me knows I'm not voting for Obama. But that doesn't keep me from being extremely amused at some of the stuff being written about him. I love how the article begins :"allegedly born in"That is hilarious.
But these, by far, are my favorite quotes:
Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States, which of course has only 50 states.[5] He could never explain where the false number of 57 came from, but it has been observed that there are 57 Islamic states and Obama was educated at an Islamic grade school while he lived in an Islamic country
and
Obama's middle name, "Hussein", means "a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad."[7] After he became politically ambitious, he declared himself to be a Christian, yet he never replaced his Muslim name with a Christian one as most do when they undergo a religious conversion,[8] casting doubt on his politically self-serving claim.[9] Obama downplays his Islamic background by claiming that his Kenyan Muslim father was a "confirmed atheist" before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics or non-religious
Friggin great!
But these, by far, are my favorite quotes:
Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States, which of course has only 50 states.[5] He could never explain where the false number of 57 came from, but it has been observed that there are 57 Islamic states and Obama was educated at an Islamic grade school while he lived in an Islamic country
and
Obama's middle name, "Hussein", means "a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad."[7] After he became politically ambitious, he declared himself to be a Christian, yet he never replaced his Muslim name with a Christian one as most do when they undergo a religious conversion,[8] casting doubt on his politically self-serving claim.[9] Obama downplays his Islamic background by claiming that his Kenyan Muslim father was a "confirmed atheist" before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics or non-religious
Friggin great!
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Plus hit McCain.
Olbermann and Matthews hosting MSNBC's coverage is a complete joke. So is Rachel Maddow for that matter but that's another argument. If Hannity was hosting Fox's coverage, I can't imagine how many lefties would be going nuts.How much longer before they kick one of their only conservatives off the station, even if he is constantly bashing Republicans as well?
The Commish
Footballguy
I'm not really a lefty, but I did watch FoxNews last night after the speech. I don't think Hannity could have created a bigger laugh factory than that group last night. It really was comedy gold. It was pathetic to see Olberman, but absolutely hilarious watching those four last night. I plan on doing the opposite during the Repub convention. These two channels really are comedy goal during these things.To your point, I seriously doubt the far left care what the far right are doing or vice versa. They see each other as complete whackos regardless. The funniest thing is when they start arguing over who is more whacko. These conventions bring good times I tell ya!!
I enjoyed turning into MSNBC and watching A.Kramer, D.Gregory, D.Todd, T.Brokow all just sitting in the front row of the seats as the place cleared out, trying to have casual political conversation. I'll give them credit for creativity even if Andrea Kramer did look extremely unconfortable.I didn't see Hannity last night so can't comment on it. I have enjoyed the O'Reilly Factor - good Democratic guest list on Tuesday night to go along with **** Morris conspiracy theories on the Clintons.I'm not really a lefty, but I did watch FoxNews last night after the speech. I don't think Hannity could have created a bigger laugh factory than that group last night. It really was comedy gold. It was pathetic to see Olberman, but absolutely hilarious watching those four last night. I plan on doing the opposite during the Repub convention. These two channels really are comedy goal during these things.To your point, I seriously doubt the far left care what the far right are doing or vice versa. They see each other as complete whackos regardless. The funniest thing is when they start arguing over who is more whacko. These conventions bring good times I tell ya!!
Statorama
Footballguy
My respect level for Barak Obama went up 100% after hearing his response to this news about Governor Palin's daugther's pregnancy.
The reporters questioning him about it were darn near baiting him to make a negative comment, but he stood firm and made it crystal clear that he wasn't going to respond negatively to that. He also said that if he found out someone on his staff made a negative comment about it they would be fired.
Excellent display of character, Senator Obama
The reporters questioning him about it were darn near baiting him to make a negative comment, but he stood firm and made it crystal clear that he wasn't going to respond negatively to that. He also said that if he found out someone on his staff made a negative comment about it they would be fired.
Excellent display of character, Senator Obama
adonis
Footballguy
My respect level for Barak Obama went up 100% after hearing his response to this news about Governor Palin's daugther's pregnancy.The reporters questioning him about it were darn near baiting him to make a negative comment, but he stood firm and made it crystal clear that he wasn't going to respond negatively to that. He also said that if he found out someone on his staff made a negative comment about it they would be fired.Excellent display of character, Senator Obama
In addition, he pointed out that his mother was 18 when she had him. Further attempt at solidarity with young Palin girl.
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SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Very Classy Man! I guess I will vote for Obama.
kaa
Footballguy
There's probably too many political threads already so I'll just toss this into the Obama file, since the election is about him. Its definitely clear that since Obama became the presumptive nominee, the democrats edge in party ID has greatly eroded. It could be due to a number of factors:
1. Obama's numerous gaffes.
2. Democrat leaders being at odds with the public on drilling.
3. McCain's negative campaign (which is an attempt to drive up his negatives in the polls).
I think point #2 helped Palin get on the ticket. Palin is going to be able to focus on drilling in Alaska, which focus the voters on the fact that the democrats are anti-drilling.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_con...partisan_trends
Number of Republicans Grows in August, Democrats Still Have Advantage
Tuesday, September 02, 2008
During August, the number of Americans who consider themselves to be Republicans increased two percentage points to 33.2% while the number of Democrats was little changed at 38.9%.
That gives the Democrats a net advantage of 5.7 percentage points, down two points from a month ago and down significantly from the double digit advantage they enjoyed in April and May.
However, the Democrats still enjoy a much bigger advantage today than they did when votes were cast in Election 2004 and an advantage almost identical to their edge in January. In fact, other than the past six months, the current 5.7 percentage point advantage is one of the biggest on record (see history from January 2004 to present).
These new results have very little to do with recent news events such as the Democratic National Convention or selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to be John McCain’s running mate. Interviews are conducted throughout the month and the vast majority were completed before these events dominated the news cycle.
Rasmussen Reports tracks this information based upon telephone interviews with approximately 15,000 adults per month and has been doing so since November 2002.
Among men, 35% are Republicans while 34% are Democrats. Among women, 44% are Democrats, and just 32% claim the GOP as their party. For both men and women, the number of Republicans is up two points while the number of Democrats remains stable.
Forty-two percent (42%) of government employees are Democrats while 33% are Republicans. Among entrepreneurs, 37% are Republican, 34% Democrat. Those who work for someone else in the private sector lean Democratic by a 37% to 35% margin. The biggest gains for the GOP came among those who work for someone else in the private sector. Last month, just 31% of such employees were Republicans.
Republicans have a four-percentage point advantage among Investors while Democrats enjoy an 18-point edge among non-Investors.
In January and February, while Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were in the early stages of the battle for the Democratic presidential nomination, the number of Americans who considered themselves to be Democrats surged to record highs.
In 2004, the Democrats began the year with a 2.3 percentage point edge over the GOP. That grew to 4.0 points by March before moving in the Republican direction for the rest of the year. By Election Day in 2004, the edge for Democrats was a mere 1.6 percentage points.
In 2006, the Democrats began the year with just a 1.6 percentage point advantage. That grew to 6.1 percentage points by November.
1. Obama's numerous gaffes.
2. Democrat leaders being at odds with the public on drilling.
3. McCain's negative campaign (which is an attempt to drive up his negatives in the polls).
I think point #2 helped Palin get on the ticket. Palin is going to be able to focus on drilling in Alaska, which focus the voters on the fact that the democrats are anti-drilling.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_con...partisan_trends
Number of Republicans Grows in August, Democrats Still Have Advantage
Tuesday, September 02, 2008
During August, the number of Americans who consider themselves to be Republicans increased two percentage points to 33.2% while the number of Democrats was little changed at 38.9%.
That gives the Democrats a net advantage of 5.7 percentage points, down two points from a month ago and down significantly from the double digit advantage they enjoyed in April and May.
However, the Democrats still enjoy a much bigger advantage today than they did when votes were cast in Election 2004 and an advantage almost identical to their edge in January. In fact, other than the past six months, the current 5.7 percentage point advantage is one of the biggest on record (see history from January 2004 to present).
These new results have very little to do with recent news events such as the Democratic National Convention or selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to be John McCain’s running mate. Interviews are conducted throughout the month and the vast majority were completed before these events dominated the news cycle.
Rasmussen Reports tracks this information based upon telephone interviews with approximately 15,000 adults per month and has been doing so since November 2002.
Among men, 35% are Republicans while 34% are Democrats. Among women, 44% are Democrats, and just 32% claim the GOP as their party. For both men and women, the number of Republicans is up two points while the number of Democrats remains stable.
Forty-two percent (42%) of government employees are Democrats while 33% are Republicans. Among entrepreneurs, 37% are Republican, 34% Democrat. Those who work for someone else in the private sector lean Democratic by a 37% to 35% margin. The biggest gains for the GOP came among those who work for someone else in the private sector. Last month, just 31% of such employees were Republicans.
Republicans have a four-percentage point advantage among Investors while Democrats enjoy an 18-point edge among non-Investors.
In January and February, while Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were in the early stages of the battle for the Democratic presidential nomination, the number of Americans who considered themselves to be Democrats surged to record highs.
In 2004, the Democrats began the year with a 2.3 percentage point edge over the GOP. That grew to 4.0 points by March before moving in the Republican direction for the rest of the year. By Election Day in 2004, the edge for Democrats was a mere 1.6 percentage points.
In 2006, the Democrats began the year with just a 1.6 percentage point advantage. That grew to 6.1 percentage points by November.
Tigran Petrosian
Footballguy
Well done calling out the dismissive attitude toward community organization.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Can they do one email without asking for money?
Tigran Petrosian
Footballguy
Chadstroma
Footballguy
No. And I can tell you the McCain campaign can not as well.
The Commish
Footballguy
Stage is set. I'd like to discuss the key factors to an Obama victory in November. What will he have to do, avoid, portray etc to be the president elect?
My thoughts initially is going to be managing the attacks from McCain and being careful not to get personal. I think the GOP convention opened up some pretty big opportunities to pound that "he doesn't get it" mantra down our throats. I also think that they opened the door to dismiss the "eletist" tag they keep trying to place on him. I'm not so sure the McCain = Bush is going to get much more run with a lot of us. We get it.
What else?
My thoughts initially is going to be managing the attacks from McCain and being careful not to get personal. I think the GOP convention opened up some pretty big opportunities to pound that "he doesn't get it" mantra down our throats. I also think that they opened the door to dismiss the "eletist" tag they keep trying to place on him. I'm not so sure the McCain = Bush is going to get much more run with a lot of us. We get it.
What else?
ElGatoLoco
Footballguy
Start watching PBS. There are clearly partisan reporters from both sides, but they present a fair evaluation when either of them speak.
Never been a big fan of a "don't vote for the other guy" strategy.
adonis
Footballguy
I think Obama needs to stress that he's there for working and middle class america, that seems to be getting drowned out.The surge issue is going to be a major pain for Obama, as one good talking point he had (being against iraq war) is now almost nullified by being against the Surge when it's now easy for McCain to say the surge worked (when it really hasn't, according to its purpose of political reconciliation). Obama's gonna have to hit the economy, and hit it hard. He's going to have to continue to tie bush to McCain, because for better or worse, the more McCain is tied to an unpopular administration, the more of a hit he takes.But this needs to be a debate about the economy, about fresh ideas vs old stale ones that McCain is promoting. About dealing with the world in an ever evolving state, rather than just using bluster and harsh words at every conflict as if we still held the position in the world we did 20 or even 10 years agStage is set. I'd like to discuss the key factors to an Obama victory in November. What will he have to do, avoid, portray etc to be the president elect?My thoughts initially is going to be managing the attacks from McCain and being careful not to get personal. I think the GOP convention opened up some pretty big opportunities to pound that "he doesn't get it" mantra down our throats. I also think that they opened the door to dismiss the "eletist" tag they keep trying to place on him. I'm not so sure the McCain = Bush is going to get much more run with a lot of us. We get it.What else?
bama has to walk a fine line with Palin, and when he criticizes her, he needs to find a way to tie that quickly back into a knock on mccain and not make it be about Palin, to avoid the female backlash.And Palin has to be pushed, and pressed, on her understanding of world affairs. Hit her wherever she's perceived to be weak, and push her weakness back on McCain, and his poor judgment in putting someone who doesn't understand this or that, a heartbeat away from the presidency.
The Commish
Footballguy
I initially thought that he could just ignore Palin all together, but I think if he did that, it would be spun back as eletist, so that's probably not a good idea. I think he's answered questions about her just as he's suppose to with the "I am not running against Palin, I am running against John McCain" type answers. The media's been pushing him hard to bite at the bait. Time will tell if he takes it.I think Obama needs to stress that he's there for working and middle class america, that seems to be getting drowned out.The surge issue is going to be a major pain for Obama, as one good talking point he had (being against iraq war) is now almost nullified by being against the Surge when it's now easy for McCain to say the surge worked (when it really hasn't, according to its purpose of political reconciliation). Obama's gonna have to hit the economy, and hit it hard. He's going to have to continue to tie bush to McCain, because for better or worse, the more McCain is tied to an unpopular administration, the more of a hit he takes.But this needs to be a debate about the economy, about fresh ideas vs old stale ones that McCain is promoting. About dealing with the world in an ever evolving state, rather than just using bluster and harsh words at every conflict as if we still held the position in the world we did 20 or even 10 years agStage is set. I'd like to discuss the key factors to an Obama victory in November. What will he have to do, avoid, portray etc to be the president elect?My thoughts initially is going to be managing the attacks from McCain and being careful not to get personal. I think the GOP convention opened up some pretty big opportunities to pound that "he doesn't get it" mantra down our throats. I also think that they opened the door to dismiss the "eletist" tag they keep trying to place on him. I'm not so sure the McCain = Bush is going to get much more run with a lot of us. We get it.What else?
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Arent there 57 total primaries and caucuses?
shining path
:prettyplease:
BTW adonis, buck up a little bit. You've been too much of a gloomy gus recently. McCain made a sexy pick and will get a bounce (maybe even take a decent lead for a little bit), but Obama is still in the driver's seat. As long as he makes smart campaign choices on the ground (which he's been famous for so far), he should come out in front.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
I think Obama should go after Palin at all. The media will be asking her plenty of questions and exposing any weeknesses. Obama needs to focus on McCain, keep the "Change" mantle, talk about the economy, campaign hard and look young and tireless. Let surrogate women raise questions for Palin and express support for Obama. Let Biden campaign hard for the white-collars.
And don't ever let people forget McCain has been in Washington for a hundred years.
And don't ever let people forget McCain has been in Washington for a hundred years.
adonis
Footballguy
I'll perk up here soon, especially once the debates get going.BTW adonis, buck up a little bit. You've been too much of a gloomy gus recently. McCain made a sexy pick and will get a bounce (maybe even take a decent lead for a little bit), but Obama is still in the driver's seat. As long as he makes smart campaign choices on the ground (which he's been famous for so far), he should come out in front.
kaa
Footballguy
You have to give credit to McCain for upsetting the apple cart with the Palin pick. I doubt Obama / Biden have any idea how to handle this. There's probably nothing in their playbook that addresses how to deal with a very popular female governor who comes out of nowhere to electrify the GOP ticket and the audience. The book says if you attack a popular politician you hurt yourself. The book says if you don't attack when you're behind in the polls (which will most likely be the case in a few days) you're gonna lose. And just how do you attack a conservative woman on a ticket from a liberal point of view? Beats me.
shining path
:prettyplease:
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Found it!
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Both hands and a flashlight were available, huh?
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
you should really start looking at real data, instead of cherry picking the one poll every other day that suggests the race is within the margin of error, and then touting that as proof that the race is a dead heat. Not only is Obama ahead statistically in almost every poll in recent weeks, he's opened commanding leads in Iowa and MN, meaning McCain is going to basically have to sweep the remainder of swing states to win.
Jethro Q. Walrustitty
Footballguy
I was calling it out before calling it out was cool.
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