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Trey
Footballguy
Senator Casey endorsed Obama today. Even as a Clinton backer (but a realistic one at that who really doesn't see a path to the nomination, especially without Michigan and Florida, I have to say I am proud of our new Senator. He was the 1st person I ever voted for, and I was thrilled because he was ousting the disgrace of life that is Rick Santorum.
But anyways, I am more proud because he spoke his mind and endorsed the candidate which he believes in. It would have been easier for him to endorse Clinton in Pennsylvania, practically everyone in PA has already done so. Definite respect there.
Way to go Bob Casey.
But anyways, I am more proud because he spoke his mind and endorsed the candidate which he believes in. It would have been easier for him to endorse Clinton in Pennsylvania, practically everyone in PA has already done so. Definite respect there.
Way to go Bob Casey.
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
Should help in the Scranton area and its always good to continue the SuperDelegate Momentum. but, i'm not sure it will have much impact on the Primary results
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Yea, props to him for not going lockstep with the PA Dem party and just doing whatever Rendell tells you
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Needed to be repeated in massive letters.
Gopher State
Footballguy
NDSU skit featured black-faced Obama actor getting lap dance
Associated Press
Last update: March 28, 2008 - 2:35 PM
a skit in which a black-faced white student portrayed Barack Obama receiving a lap dance.
Presidents of the NDSU Saddle and Sirloin Club and sorority Alpha Gamma Delta publicly apologized for the skit at an NDSU town hall meeting this week.
NDSU says a hearing officer will decide whether the groups should be punished.
Those in the audience said a member of the club dressed as a woman from the Internet video "I Got a Crush on Obama" and performed for another student who was wearing dark makeup and an afro wig.
The Fargo Forum, citing people who attended the performance, reported that in the background were two male students dressed as cowboys simulating anal sex while holding an Obama sign that one student ripped when the 30-second skit ended.
Club President Jenna Schmidt said the students were trying to reenact a YouTube video and did not mean to be offensive.
Associated Press
Last update: March 28, 2008 - 2:35 PM
a skit in which a black-faced white student portrayed Barack Obama receiving a lap dance.
Presidents of the NDSU Saddle and Sirloin Club and sorority Alpha Gamma Delta publicly apologized for the skit at an NDSU town hall meeting this week.
NDSU says a hearing officer will decide whether the groups should be punished.
Those in the audience said a member of the club dressed as a woman from the Internet video "I Got a Crush on Obama" and performed for another student who was wearing dark makeup and an afro wig.
The Fargo Forum, citing people who attended the performance, reported that in the background were two male students dressed as cowboys simulating anal sex while holding an Obama sign that one student ripped when the 30-second skit ended.
Club President Jenna Schmidt said the students were trying to reenact a YouTube video and did not mean to be offensive.
commisholio
Come out with your pants down!
WTF? I guess there really is nothing to do in Fargo.
bigbottom
Footballguy
I don't get the cowboy/anal sex bit, but I don't see why the lapdance part of the skit would merit punishment. Is the dude from SNL who impersonates Obama doing something offensive because he has make-up and fake hair on? How about Darrell Hammond when he does Jesse Jackson?Gopher State said:
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
How in the world could anybody possibly do this and think it would go unreported?Gopher State said:
I think we may have just found our answer.
Who could possibly be offended by an artistic display like this?
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I don't know what SNL skits you're referring to (I don't watch SNL), but a good rule of thumb is "White students appearing in blackface = bad." A corrolary is "White students appearing in black face and portraying African Americans as sexually aggressive = worse."
bigbottom
Footballguy
The SNL skits where cast members impersonate famous people. Depending in the celebrity being impersonated, the actor may wear a fake moustache, a wig, fake ears or (*gasp*) make-up. I don't have a problem with someone putting on make-up and fake hair to impersonate Obama any more than I have a problem with the student putting on a wig to impersonate Obama girl. Now, if the make-up and wig was worn to make fun of black people rather than impersonate Obama, that's a different story.
I guess I see your point, but what's aggressive about getting a lap dance? In most establishments you can't even use your hands! In any event, the skit was a spoof about Obama and Obama girl and the hugely famous YouTube videos depicting them. Why would you view the skit as applying to African Americans generally?To me, this isn't the same thing is dressing up in blackface for a pimps and hos party.
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NorvilleBarnes
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NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Confirmed.
Excellent.
skol asylum
Footballguy
As a UND Fighting Sioux alumnus, I'd say this sounds par for the course from the Bison to the south.Gopher State said:
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Gopher State
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Close Barack Obama-Hillary Clinton finish would force tough choice for Democratic leaders
By CHARLES BABINGTON , Associated Press
Last update: March 29, 2008 - 12:21 PM
WASHINGTON - For all their delight in soaring voter registration and strong poll numbers, some Democrats fear the contest between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton might have a nightmarish end, which could wreck a promising election year.
The chief worry is that Clinton may carry her recent winning streak into Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina and other states, leaving her with unquestioned momentum but fewer pledged delegates than Obama. Party leaders then would face a wrenching choice: Steer the nomination to a fading Obama, even as signs suggested Clinton could be the stronger candidate in November; or go with the surging Clinton and risk infuriating Obama's supporters, especially blacks, the Democratic Party's most loyal base.
Some anxious Democrats want party elders to step in now to generate more "superdelegate" support for Obama, effectively choking off Clinton's hopes before she can bolster them further. But many say that is unlikely, and they pray the final 10 contests will make the ultimate choice fairly obvious, not excruciating.
Barring a complete meltdown by Obama, Clinton has almost no chance of surpassing his number of pledged delegates, even if she scores upset wins in states such as Oregon, which votes May 20. But such victories would encourage her to keep criticizing Obama — her only hope for the nomination — and thus heighten doubts about Obama's ability to defeat Republican Sen. John McCain in the fall.
That scenario troubles many Democrats, especially those who feel Obama's nomination is all but inevitable.
"This is going to give Republicans a chance to try to destroy everything we've been trying to work for for eight years," said Ken Foxworth, a Democratic National Committee member from Minnesota and superdelegate who backs Obama.
Superdelegates are party officials, including members of Congress, who can back any candidate they wish. With neither Obama nor Clinton able to secure the nomination with the pledged delegates they win in primaries and caucuses, the superdelegates ultimately will decide the outcome.
Many undeclared superdelegates express confidence that all will be well. Democratic voters will unite in the fall, they say, and the injuries that Obama and Clinton inflict on each other this spring will heal.
Privately, however, some party insiders worry that these superdelegates may be blithely marching toward a treacherous crossroad, where they will have to choose between a deeply wounded Obama and a soaring Clinton whose success was built on tearing down the party's front-runner in terms of delegates.
A senior Democratic Senate aide, who would speak only on background because most members of Congress bar their staff members from being quoted by name, called it a nightmare that's getting worse.
The Democrats' optimism of February has been replaced by fear, this aide said, referring to the widely held view last month that Obama was coasting to the nomination after winning 11 straight contests. Clinton halted the skid in Texas and Ohio on March 4 and is favored to win the Pennsylvania primary on April 22.
If the New York senator also tops Obama in Indiana and North Carolina on May 6, West Virginia a week later, and Kentucky and/or Oregon on May 20, her supporters will argue that the dynamic has sharply changed in ways party leaders cannot ignore. Obama is no longer the sure-footed campaigner who piled up wins and delegates in February, they will say, and the superdelegates' obligation to the party is to nominate the sprinting Clinton, even if it angers Obama backers.
Of course, Obama could practically extinguish Clinton's final hopes by winning one or more of those states. Many Democrats believe he will, suggesting Clinton's continued campaign is a hopeless, albeit potentially harmful, endeavor.
Obama's nomination is "a foregone conclusion," Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., told National Journal. Dodd endorsed Obama after trying for the nomination himself.
He's ahead of Clinton in delegates, popular votes, states won and fundraising. Obama seems nearly certain to finish the primary season far ahead of Clinton financially. At the end of February his campaign had $30 million on hand, while Clinton's had only $3 million more in cash than in debts.
Some Obama supporters question Clinton's motives: They suggest she is counting on a stunning gaffe or shocking revelation to cripple Obama and hand her the nomination. Others float a more sinister possibility, which has found its way into mainstream news accounts: Clinton hopes to damage Obama so severely that he loses to McCain this fall, clearing her path to challenge McCain in 2012, when he will be 75.
Clinton scoffs at such suggestions, and calls on voters to support whomever is the Democratic nominee in November.
Whatever her motives, many Democrats fear that Clinton's continued criticisms can only hurt the man they see as their all-but-certain nominee. They point to a recent Gallup poll, in which 28 percent of Clinton's Democratic supporters said they would vote for McCain if Obama is the party's nominee. Nineteen percent of Obama's supporters said they would vote for McCain if Clinton gets the nod.
Faced with such disturbing trends, some Democrats want party elders either to persuade Clinton to drop out, or to orchestrate enough superdelegate endorsements of Obama to make her defeat inevitable. But high-profile Democrats, including former president Jimmy Carter, former vice president Al Gore, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, have refrained from such moves so far.
"My job is to make sure the person who loses feels like they have been treated fairly so that their supporters will support the winner," Dean told The Associated Press.
Indeed, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi drew objections from Clinton backers when she approached the issue by saying she shared Obama's view that superdelegates should be guided by the vote for pledged delegates.
This week, one of Obama's prominent supporters, Sen. Patrick Leahy took the next step. The Vermont Democrat who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee said Clinton can't win enough delegates and should drop out and support Obama.
Ferrel Guillory, director of the Program on Southern Politics, Media, and Public Life at the University of North Carolina, said it's probably asking too much of Dean and others to step in. In an era of sharply contested primaries and largely meaningless nominating conventions, he said "we don't have any power brokers any more" who could somehow negotiate a resolution.
Pat Waak, chairwoman of the Colorado Democratic Party, said the worriers should relax.
"I actually think it's good for the party to get through this process," she said. "It gives everybody a chance to be part of it," she said, noting that Democratic voter registration is soaring in many states.
In Pennsylvania, Democrats have registered a staggering 161,000 new voters since last fall, pushing their numbers over 4 million for the first time. In Oregon, nearly 10,000 voters have refiled as Democrats in the last seven weeks.
Waak added, however: "The concern I have is the kind of level of attack that has come up" between Obama and Clinton. "I don't think that is good for the party."
Superdelegates will have to choose this summer, Waak said, and it will be easy if Obama can significantly increase his lead in delegates, popular votes and states won. On the other hand, she said, "the narrower the margin and the less conclusive it is, the harder it becomes."
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By CHARLES BABINGTON , Associated Press
Last update: March 29, 2008 - 12:21 PM
WASHINGTON - For all their delight in soaring voter registration and strong poll numbers, some Democrats fear the contest between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton might have a nightmarish end, which could wreck a promising election year.
The chief worry is that Clinton may carry her recent winning streak into Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina and other states, leaving her with unquestioned momentum but fewer pledged delegates than Obama. Party leaders then would face a wrenching choice: Steer the nomination to a fading Obama, even as signs suggested Clinton could be the stronger candidate in November; or go with the surging Clinton and risk infuriating Obama's supporters, especially blacks, the Democratic Party's most loyal base.
Some anxious Democrats want party elders to step in now to generate more "superdelegate" support for Obama, effectively choking off Clinton's hopes before she can bolster them further. But many say that is unlikely, and they pray the final 10 contests will make the ultimate choice fairly obvious, not excruciating.
Barring a complete meltdown by Obama, Clinton has almost no chance of surpassing his number of pledged delegates, even if she scores upset wins in states such as Oregon, which votes May 20. But such victories would encourage her to keep criticizing Obama — her only hope for the nomination — and thus heighten doubts about Obama's ability to defeat Republican Sen. John McCain in the fall.
That scenario troubles many Democrats, especially those who feel Obama's nomination is all but inevitable.
"This is going to give Republicans a chance to try to destroy everything we've been trying to work for for eight years," said Ken Foxworth, a Democratic National Committee member from Minnesota and superdelegate who backs Obama.
Superdelegates are party officials, including members of Congress, who can back any candidate they wish. With neither Obama nor Clinton able to secure the nomination with the pledged delegates they win in primaries and caucuses, the superdelegates ultimately will decide the outcome.
Many undeclared superdelegates express confidence that all will be well. Democratic voters will unite in the fall, they say, and the injuries that Obama and Clinton inflict on each other this spring will heal.
Privately, however, some party insiders worry that these superdelegates may be blithely marching toward a treacherous crossroad, where they will have to choose between a deeply wounded Obama and a soaring Clinton whose success was built on tearing down the party's front-runner in terms of delegates.
A senior Democratic Senate aide, who would speak only on background because most members of Congress bar their staff members from being quoted by name, called it a nightmare that's getting worse.
The Democrats' optimism of February has been replaced by fear, this aide said, referring to the widely held view last month that Obama was coasting to the nomination after winning 11 straight contests. Clinton halted the skid in Texas and Ohio on March 4 and is favored to win the Pennsylvania primary on April 22.
If the New York senator also tops Obama in Indiana and North Carolina on May 6, West Virginia a week later, and Kentucky and/or Oregon on May 20, her supporters will argue that the dynamic has sharply changed in ways party leaders cannot ignore. Obama is no longer the sure-footed campaigner who piled up wins and delegates in February, they will say, and the superdelegates' obligation to the party is to nominate the sprinting Clinton, even if it angers Obama backers.
Of course, Obama could practically extinguish Clinton's final hopes by winning one or more of those states. Many Democrats believe he will, suggesting Clinton's continued campaign is a hopeless, albeit potentially harmful, endeavor.
Obama's nomination is "a foregone conclusion," Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., told National Journal. Dodd endorsed Obama after trying for the nomination himself.
He's ahead of Clinton in delegates, popular votes, states won and fundraising. Obama seems nearly certain to finish the primary season far ahead of Clinton financially. At the end of February his campaign had $30 million on hand, while Clinton's had only $3 million more in cash than in debts.
Some Obama supporters question Clinton's motives: They suggest she is counting on a stunning gaffe or shocking revelation to cripple Obama and hand her the nomination. Others float a more sinister possibility, which has found its way into mainstream news accounts: Clinton hopes to damage Obama so severely that he loses to McCain this fall, clearing her path to challenge McCain in 2012, when he will be 75.
Clinton scoffs at such suggestions, and calls on voters to support whomever is the Democratic nominee in November.
Whatever her motives, many Democrats fear that Clinton's continued criticisms can only hurt the man they see as their all-but-certain nominee. They point to a recent Gallup poll, in which 28 percent of Clinton's Democratic supporters said they would vote for McCain if Obama is the party's nominee. Nineteen percent of Obama's supporters said they would vote for McCain if Clinton gets the nod.
Faced with such disturbing trends, some Democrats want party elders either to persuade Clinton to drop out, or to orchestrate enough superdelegate endorsements of Obama to make her defeat inevitable. But high-profile Democrats, including former president Jimmy Carter, former vice president Al Gore, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, have refrained from such moves so far.
"My job is to make sure the person who loses feels like they have been treated fairly so that their supporters will support the winner," Dean told The Associated Press.
Indeed, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi drew objections from Clinton backers when she approached the issue by saying she shared Obama's view that superdelegates should be guided by the vote for pledged delegates.
This week, one of Obama's prominent supporters, Sen. Patrick Leahy took the next step. The Vermont Democrat who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee said Clinton can't win enough delegates and should drop out and support Obama.
Ferrel Guillory, director of the Program on Southern Politics, Media, and Public Life at the University of North Carolina, said it's probably asking too much of Dean and others to step in. In an era of sharply contested primaries and largely meaningless nominating conventions, he said "we don't have any power brokers any more" who could somehow negotiate a resolution.
Pat Waak, chairwoman of the Colorado Democratic Party, said the worriers should relax.
"I actually think it's good for the party to get through this process," she said. "It gives everybody a chance to be part of it," she said, noting that Democratic voter registration is soaring in many states.
In Pennsylvania, Democrats have registered a staggering 161,000 new voters since last fall, pushing their numbers over 4 million for the first time. In Oregon, nearly 10,000 voters have refiled as Democrats in the last seven weeks.
Waak added, however: "The concern I have is the kind of level of attack that has come up" between Obama and Clinton. "I don't think that is good for the party."
Superdelegates will have to choose this summer, Waak said, and it will be easy if Obama can significantly increase his lead in delegates, popular votes and states won. On the other hand, she said, "the narrower the margin and the less conclusive it is, the harder it becomes."
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skol asylum
Footballguy
The latest polls show Obama back up:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/20...olls/index.html
Saturday, March 29
Race Poll Results Spread
Democratic Presidential Nomination Gallup Tracking Obama 50, Clinton 43 Obama +7
Democratic Presidential Nomination Rasmussen Tracking Obama 48, Clinton 42 Obama +6
Friday, March 28
Race Poll Results Spread
Democratic Presidential Nomination Pew Research Obama 49, Clinton 39 Obama +10
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/20...olls/index.html
Saturday, March 29
Race Poll Results Spread
Democratic Presidential Nomination Gallup Tracking Obama 50, Clinton 43 Obama +7
Democratic Presidential Nomination Rasmussen Tracking Obama 48, Clinton 42 Obama +6
Friday, March 28
Race Poll Results Spread
Democratic Presidential Nomination Pew Research Obama 49, Clinton 39 Obama +10
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BuddyKnuckles
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Said it before, but when Rasmussen has Obama up, and outside of the margin of error, thats a very positive sign.
Sad part is that HRC will win PA, and most likely by 10+ pts. So, the media will yet again jump on the Momentum bandwagon and we get to listen to another few weeks of nonsense. And just like everyone has been saying for quite some time, the primaries will end with Obama having a 100+ pledged delegate lead. And the Supers will have to decide when and who gets the nomination. And someone will be p!$$ed
the moops
Footballguy
You know, Clinton staying in this thing may be the best thing for Obama.
If all this Wright stuff came out 6 months from now instead, it would have had a far greater impact. Perhaps Clinton is staying in the race to air all of Obama's dirty laundry now, rather than in the general.
If all this Wright stuff came out 6 months from now instead, it would have had a far greater impact. Perhaps Clinton is staying in the race to air all of Obama's dirty laundry now, rather than in the general.
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BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
That may be a desirable byproduct, but no way it is the motivationYou know, Clinton staying in this thing may be the best thing for Obama.If all this Wright stuff came out 6 months from now instead, it would have had a far greater impact. Perhaps Clinton is staying in the race to air all of Obama's dirty laundry now, rather than in the general.
My Hope Street Alias
Footballguy
Is that because Rasmussen is typically the least favorable to Obama amongst all the polling companies?Said it before, but when Rasmussen has Obama up, and outside of the margin of error, thats a very positive sign.
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Interesting little article on Politico. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9260.html
I think with the time he has in PA and employing these kind of tactics, he really has a shot to cut pretty deeply into Hillary's lead.
I think with the time he has in PA and employing these kind of tactics, he really has a shot to cut pretty deeply into Hillary's lead.
skol asylum
Footballguy
I sure would like to see about 40-50 superdelegates roll his way before Pennsylvania.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Me too
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
Well, yes and no. Its not specific to Obama as Rasmussen has traditionally (at least recently IMO) skewed conservative. It typically has the largest margins of victory for McCain (outside of FoxNews polls) in addition to the highest approval ratings for Bush. So, when the most conservative poll has Obama in front, and outside the margin of error, that can be viewed as significantMy Hope Street Alias said:Is that because Rasmussen is typically the least favorable to Obama amongst all the polling companies?BuddyKnuckles said:Said it before, but when Rasmussen has Obama up, and outside of the margin of error, thats a very positive sign.Mr. Superunkn0wn said:Sad part is that HRC will win PA, and most likely by 10+ pts. So, the media will yet again jump on the Momentum bandwagon and we get to listen to another few weeks of nonsense. And just like everyone has been saying for quite some time, the primaries will end with Obama having a 100+ pledged delegate lead. And the Supers will have to decide when and who gets the nomination. And someone will be p!$$ed
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BuddyKnuckles
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That has been the general trend, the longer Obama gets to spend time in a State, the better he does. I am hoping that he can close the lead to under 10 pts. If he can do that, i'd consider PA to be a success.My favorite quote from the article:
So, basically, there's a bunch of old, racist white people in PA who are propping up HRC. But, as they get Alzheimers and die off, so too does their outdated way of judging and governing
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BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
Thanks Trey, interested to hear about it
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Wouldnt surprise me if HRC has a higher turnout there. Isnt her dad from there?
Trey
Footballguy
Yeah, and I believe Obama is coming in the afternoon. But we have the University of Scranton here which will supply a great deal of the Obama supporters I'd say. I think Senator Casey will be there as well and he's a Scranton boy.
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
I'm sure that someone in the HRC camp just misspoke when they said they would pay those businesses. The thing that makes me sick isnt the 800k owed to a direct mail corp, its the little bills owed to small businesses. A lot of small businesses operate month to month and customers who dont pay bills truly hurt them. Then again, those states have already voted, so why should HRC care about them anymore?
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
Gallup: Obama lead over Clinton largest this year
Ruh Roh Rillary, more people hate liars than accused america haters
That would be horrible. Judges are supposed to have integrity. She's overtly political about everything she does.I am a HUGE proponent of giving her a Supreme Court nomination: Plays to her strength, keeps her out of trouble for the rest of her life, she would rule in ways that I would probably agree with, AND she would drive Scalia insane.Well, without devolving this topic into the countless other debates on why she should or should not drop out now, I dont think anything will happen before all the primaries are completed. PR just moved theirs up, which makes June 3 the last of the primaries (MT & SD). I believe that whatever is going down will happen after June 3. As far what she would need
Orange Crush
Footballguy
I can just hear her in Court now: "Counselor, before we get to the merits of the case, what does the polling say we should do?"That would be horrible. Judges are supposed to have integrity. She's overtly political about everything she does.I am a HUGE proponent of giving her a Supreme Court nomination: Plays to her strength, keeps her out of trouble for the rest of her life, she would rule in ways that I would probably agree with, AND she would drive Scalia insane.Well, without devolving this topic into the countless other debates on why she should or should not drop out now, I dont think anything will happen before all the primaries are completed. PR just moved theirs up, which makes June 3 the last of the primaries (MT & SD). I believe that whatever is going down will happen after June 3. As far what she would needmaybe if we gave her a business card that reads "most important person in the world", she would walk away
Sweet J
Footballguy
You underestimate the comedic value of a court with both Clinton and Scalia at the same time. Off. The. Charts. SCALIA, J. Dissenting: My vulva-weilding co-justice fails to fully understand the nature of the intent of Congress in promulgating Title IX legislation. . . . In her fruitless denial of of her own matching set of X chromosomes, she fails to appreciate the differences between the genders. . . which is unsurprizing in light of her own inability to understand her spouse's intent with his nightly pleas for oral gratification, . . . ."That would be horrible. Judges are supposed to have integrity. She's overtly political about everything she does.I am a HUGE proponent of giving her a Supreme Court nomination: Plays to her strength, keeps her out of trouble for the rest of her life, she would rule in ways that I would probably agree with, AND she would drive Scalia insane.Well, without devolving this topic into the countless other debates on why she should or should not drop out now, I dont think anything will happen before all the primaries are completed. PR just moved theirs up, which makes June 3 the last of the primaries (MT & SD). I believe that whatever is going down will happen after June 3. As far what she would needmaybe if we gave her a business card that reads "most important person in the world", she would walk away
adonis
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Donate using the link in the OP or via any of the links below to help Obama get as much support by the filing deadline as he can get.
If you haven't donated in a while, this is a great opportunity to step up and make a difference as his fund raising totals will be reported for the weeks to come leading up to PA. The higher the numbers the more compelling his case is, especially if he can eclipse Hillary's.
If you haven't donated in a while, this is a great opportunity to step up and make a difference as his fund raising totals will be reported for the weeks to come leading up to PA. The higher the numbers the more compelling his case is, especially if he can eclipse Hillary's.
Sammy3469
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I know the point you're tryong to make, but when has the Supreme Court been anything but political.That would be horrible. Judges are supposed to have integrity. She's overtly political about everything she does.I am a HUGE proponent of giving her a Supreme Court nomination: Plays to her strength, keeps her out of trouble for the rest of her life, she would rule in ways that I would probably agree with, AND she would drive Scalia insane.Well, without devolving this topic into the countless other debates on why she should or should not drop out now, I dont think anything will happen before all the primaries are completed. PR just moved theirs up, which makes June 3 the last of the primaries (MT & SD). I believe that whatever is going down will happen after June 3. As far what she would need
Chachi
Footballguy
Seriously. I like Obama, I know alot of people who like Obama yet we are all Clinton supporters. We were talking last night about NOT voting in the general election for Obama, just staying home, no way we vote for McBush. Why? What has Obama done? Obama has done nothing to irritate us. Well, why then? It's the Obama supporters, it's really crap like this, it's crap like this and having to listen to "Clinton will do anything no matter how destructive to the Democratic party". There is a problem I have with Obama supporters in regards to this stuff in this quoted post. I also have real problems with booing Sheila Jackson Lee in Texas because she doesn't support Obama. Keep it up Obama supporters, pretend you're all so pure and virtuous, it's pathetic, you may just irritate me and many others enough to keep us at home.
Sweet J
Footballguy
As a person who is a Clinton supporter, I am interested to hear your views about this video. Is it all a lie? Is it like the crazy "9-11 was planned by the U.S. government" theory? Did you watch the video, or are you just assuming it is BS? I am genuinely curious about what a Clinton supporter thinks of this.
adonis
Footballguy
Why would you not vote for a person because of some of their more outspoken and in your opinion irritating supporters? What does that have to do with his ability to lead the country?
bigbottom
Footballguy
I think this is a very valid point. If we really want to unify the party behind our nominee once the matter has been settled, we should really tone down some of the rhetoric going back and forth between the two candidates' supporters. That said, if you would otherwise support Obama in November, but you stay at home simply because some Obama supporters irritated you during the primary, I think that's really, really lame.
Chachi
Footballguy
Because it's breeding a deep resentment. Simple human psychology and very possibly immature on my part. I will try and be mature enough to not let this happen, others I were talking to hopefully they can do the same. I have faith in my friends to be mature enough and go pull the lever for Obama, However I can't say I have enough faith countrywide for everyone to do the same. If the election was today, I don't know what I would do but would lean towards voting for Obama. The problem here is I vote every election, I vote democratic in every election, I'm like a robot, I'm probaly more the exception than the rule. The point is Obama supporters need to grow up and grow up fast.
adonis
Footballguy
I think on any side you have supporters who run the gambit of feelings. Usually the most outspoken ones aren't the best representatives of typical supporters. Same is true with Obama and Hillary no doubt.
Sweet J
Footballguy
I hate to sound like a broken record, but the two examples you cite hear of "Obama supporters" needing to "grow up" are (1) a pretty funny parody of an anti-scientology video, and (2) a video purporting to show Clinton ethical lapses (and the subject matter of which you haven't addressed, instead, you attack the messanger).I'd love you to offer some support of "Obama supporters" acting "childish." If anything, the only stats I've seen is that Hillary supporters overwhelmingly (compared to Obama supporters) are saying that if their candidate doesn't win, they will stay home, which appears (to me, at least) one indicator of "childishness." So what is your beef, exactly, with Obama supporters, other than the fact that they really don't like Hillary.
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
Sorry Chach, but we're just going to finish what Hill started. If she wants to leak "muslim" photos, fine. If she wants to bring up Rev Wright only when she is feeling the heat for her Bosnia Hallucination, ok. And if she wants to constantly go schizo while one night complimenting Obama and the very next day shouting "shame on you", sure. But, you cant get all touchy when an active court case is brought up and discussed. HRC has associated with a known felon, is currently being sued by said known felon, and could be involved in the largest electoral fundraising fraud in the history of this country. If you don't feel that is relevant, then there really is no arguing with you.
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Sweet J
Footballguy
When it looks to me that Hillary is doing something unsavory (by saying that McCain is more qualified than Obama yet offering him the VP slot, for example), some people really do believe that Hillary is doing "anything she can to win." Is that not a valid observation? I have a hart time, because if I say something critical of Hillary's positions, her past actions, or her current actions, you simply label me as a "Obama cultist" or a "Hillary hater." It appears that the behavior you are decrying is misplaced.
