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[NCCommish]

Uh oh.The New York Post reported Tuesday that the Rev. Jesse Jackson said the United States will rid itself of years of "Zionist" control under an administration headed by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. The daily quoted the veteran civil rights leader on Tuesday as having said that although "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" remain strong, they will lose a much of their clout when Obama enters the White House. Speaking at the first World Policy Forum event in Evian, France, Jackson promised "fundamental changes" in U.S. foreign policy. He said the most important change would occur in the Middle East, where "decades of putting Israel's interests first" would end. Jackson said that Obama "wants an aggressive and dynamic diplomacy." He went on to criticize the Bush administration's handling of Middle East diplomacy, telling the Post, "Bush was so afraid of a snafu and of upsetting Israel that he gave the whole thing a miss. Barack will change that," because, as long as the Palestinians haven't seen justice, the Middle East will "remain a source of danger to us all." Jackson has not always been such a strong Obama supporter. In July, he apologized to the Illinois senator for "crude and hurtful" remarks he had made about him after an interview with a Fox News correspondent. Speaking to a fellow interviewee without realizing his microphone was on, Jackson said, "See, Barack's been talking down to black people.... I want to cut his nuts off." "It was very private," Jackson said, adding that if "any hurt or harm has been caused to [Obama's] campaign, I apologize."

Jackson said this....Jackson said that.Come on Tim, you are better than this.

Why are you ripping on me? I think it's interesting that Jackson would do this. If you've read my other posts, I am not a critic of Obama's attitude towards Israel, as publicly stated. I have no fears in this direction. But if Jesse Jackson is trying to sabatoge Obama, that's something else, and it's a fascinating story in itself (at least to me.)

You are making it sound like Jackson is relevant in Obama's campaign or relevant at all. He's not.

I would love it if you are right, but I disagree with you. It is my fervent hope that Obama will be a much more moderate President than some of the rhetoric being spread about him by the right wing (and some of his own rhetoric regarding the economy has suggested.) If so, then I suspect that Jesse may emerge as a loud noteworthy progressive critic of the Obama Administration, which will make him relevant again. Just a prediction.

A quick hint no one in the mainstream progressive movement has an ounce of respect for Jackson as he is today.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Didn't think it would happen before the election was over, but I'm sick of politics. Election day cannot get here soon enough.

It's just become exhausting and depressing at this point.

 

[cosjobs]

Didn't think it would happen before the election was over, but I'm sick of politics. Election day cannot get here soon enough.

It's just become exhausting and depressing at this point.

OMFGMCANIN WAS RIGHTTHEY HAVE US RIGHT WHERE THEY WANT US

 

[Statorama]

Didn't think it would happen before the election was over, but I'm sick of politics. Election day cannot get here soon enough.

It's just become exhausting and depressing at this point.

Not when you have the prettiest, spunkiest little VP ever

 

[Statorama]

As a longtime gun owner I have no problem with Obama on the issue. And noone else does either.

...um, I do.

 

[Fennis]

Didn't think it would happen before the election was over, but I'm sick of politics. Election day cannot get here soon enough.

It's just become exhausting and depressing at this point.

Not when you have the prettiest, spunkiest little VP ever

Thomas Riley Marshall?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I am surprised this hasn't been covered here. It's called the Great Schlep and it features Sarah Silverman. I won't link it here because Joe would have massive heart failure. But it is on YouTube and is easy to find. It is extremely UN-PC, extraordinarily crude in it's language and funny. I recommend it.

BTW there are stories coming out about people taking her advice and getting positive results.

It's been linked before. Pretty funny stuff.

It's true. Barack Hussein Obama is a super ####ty name.

God I love her.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

Didn't think it would happen before the election was over, but I'm sick of politics. Election day cannot get here soon enough.

True, and there's been a lot of negativity. But a lot can change in 3 weeks and momentum could shift starting tonight. It is not over yet.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

RNC out of Wisconsin, Maine; focuses on red states

LINK

WASHINGTON - The Republican National Committee is halting presidential ads in Wisconsin and Maine, turning its attention primarily to usually Republican states where GOP nominee John McCain shows signs of faltering.

The party's independent ad operation is doubling its budget to about $10 million and focusing on crucial states such as Colorado, Missouri, Indiana and Virginia where Democrat Barack Obama has established a foothold, according a Republican strategist familiar with presidential ad placements.

Florida and North Carolina have also been in the RNC ad mix, but Pennsylvania is the only Democratic leaning swing state apparently left in the party's ad campaign.

 

[Gr00vus]

Didn't think it would happen before the election was over, but I'm sick of politics. Election day cannot get here soon enough.

It's just become exhausting and depressing at this point.

OMFGMCANIN WAS RIGHTTHEY HAVE US RIGHT WHERE THEY WANT US

Nothing's changed. Here in the end game it's just the actual issues and policies that matter - as they have all along despite attempts to obscure them. McCain's dug a hole for himself with all the sideshows and histrionics, but if he can get solid for 3 weeks he can still win this thing. Palin doesn't matter - ignore her. Keating 5 doesn't matter - ignore it. Wright and Ayers don't matter - ignore them. Right now is the time to focus on the key policies, approaches and abilities to govern these candidates bring to the table. There is a stark contrast between them in these all important, fundamental areas, and when I consider each of them in these regards Obama is clearly the better man for the job. It's important that we focus on that and communicate why that is to the people who are truly undecided from this point forward.I am uneasy about this election. I think there will be a Bradley affect, to the tune of anywhere from 1 to 5 percent of people who've publicly said they'll vote for Obama. I think tonight may be a turning point that makes things competitive again. McCain is a cagey veteran of many battles, and is fundamentally not a stupid man (though he's not quite as intelligent as Obama either). I think he comes up with something tonight that sticks, some real answers that will resonate with the undecideds. I think he wins the debate tonight and gets the momentum going back in his direction.It's not time to get tired or disaffected. It's time to put the nonsense aside and reiterate the real reasons this country needs Obama as President rather than McCain. Remember what inspired you about Obama in the first place, whenever it was you realized he is the best person for the job, and focus on that and how it will improve the U.S. and the world. Don't let the negativity get you down - there's too much at stake.

 

[commisholio]

I'm not concerned about a let-up - it's too much fun to be part of the winning ticket for a change. Obama supporters are going to get out there and vote. I'd be more concerned if I were a rightie that McCain supporters will get discouraged and think that it doesn't matter whether they go and then have that also turn into a disaster down-ticket for Republicans. It'd be a darn shame if that happened.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I am surprised this hasn't been covered here. It's called the Great Schlep and it features Sarah Silverman. I won't link it here because Joe would have massive heart failure. But it is on YouTube and is easy to find. It is extremely UN-PC, extraordinarily crude in it's language and funny. I recommend it.

BTW there are stories coming out about people taking her advice and getting positive results.

It's been linked before. Pretty funny stuff.

It's true. Barack Hussein Obama is a super ####ty name.

God I love her.

I want to have Sarah Silverman's baby.

 

[Fennis]

I am surprised this hasn't been covered here. It's called the Great Schlep and it features Sarah Silverman. I won't link it here because Joe would have massive heart failure. But it is on YouTube and is easy to find. It is extremely UN-PC, extraordinarily crude in it's language and funny. I recommend it.

BTW there are stories coming out about people taking her advice and getting positive results.

It's been linked before. Pretty funny stuff.

It's true. Barack Hussein Obama is a super ####ty name.

God I love her.

I want to have Sarah Silverman's baby.

Well if she's #### Jimmy Kimmel she would #### anyone.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Nothing's changed. Here in the end game it's just the actual issues and policies that matter - as they have all along despite attempts to obscure them. McCain's dug a hole for himself with all the sideshows and histrionics, but if he can get solid for 3 weeks he can still win this thing. Palin doesn't matter - ignore her. Keating 5 doesn't matter - ignore it. Wright and Ayers don't matter - ignore them. Right now is the time to focus on the key policies, approaches and abilities to govern these candidates bring to the table. There is a stark contrast between them in these all important, fundamental areas, and when I consider each of them in these regards Obama is clearly the better man for the job. It's important that we focus on that and communicate why that is to the people who are truly undecided from this point forward.

I am uneasy about this election. I think there will be a Bradley affect, to the tune of anywhere from 1 to 5 percent of people who've publicly said they'll vote for Obama. I think tonight may be a turning point that makes things competitive again. McCain is a cagey veteran of many battles, and is fundamentally not a stupid man (though he's not quite as intelligent as Obama either). I think he comes up with something tonight that sticks, some real answers that will resonate with the undecideds. I think he wins the debate tonight and gets the momentum going back in his direction.

It's not time to get tired or disaffected. It's time to put the nonsense aside and reiterate the real reasons this country needs Obama as President rather than McCain. Remember what inspired you about Obama in the first place, whenever it was you realized he is the best person for the job, and focus on that and how it will improve the U.S. and the world.

Don't let the negativity get you down - there's too much at stake.

Well said, though The Bradley Effect has been discredited by one of the key players in that Bradley / Deukmejian election. I agree that people should be concerened that voters may change their minds in the voting booth, but check this out:

The Bradley Effect - Selective Memory

By V. Lance Tarrance, Jr.

Now that polls indicate Senator Barack Obama is the favorite to win, some analysts predict a racially biased "Bradley Effect" could prevent Obama from winning a majority on November 4th. That is a pernicious canard and is unworthy of 21st century political narratives. I should know. I was there in 1982 at "ground zero" in California when I served George Deukmejian as his general election pollster and as a member of his strategy team when he defeated African-American Democratic California gubernatorial candidate Tom Bradley, not once but twice, in 1982 and again in 1986. Bradley Effect believers assume that there is an undetectable tendency in the behavior of some white voters who tell pollsters that they are "undecided" when in fact their true preference is to vote against the black candidate. This so-called effect suggests the power or advantage to alter an outcome - a pretty serious charge. This would render poll projections inaccurate (overstating both the number of undecided voters and the African-American candidate's margin over a white opponent) and create an unaccounted for different outcome. However, it is indeed a "theory in search of data."

The hype surrounding the Bradley Effect has evolved to where some political pundits believe in 2008 that Obama must win in the national pre-election polls by 6-9 points before he can be assured a victory. That's absurd. There won't be a 6-9 point Bradley Effect -- there can't be, since few national polls show a large enough amount of undecided voters and it's in the undecided column where racism supposedly hides.

The other reason I reject the Bradley Effect in 2008 is because there was not a Bradley Effect in the 1982 California Governor's race, either. Even though Tom Bradley had been slightly ahead in the polls in 1982, due to sampling error, it was statistically too close to call. For example, the daily Tarrance and Associates tracking polls for the Deukmejian campaign showed the following weekly summations (N=1000 each) during the month of October:

Week of:

Oct.7th Oct. 14th Oct. 21st Oct. 28 Nov. 1

Bradley 49 45 46 45 45

Deukmejian 37 41 41 42 44

It is obvious that this election was closing fast. Yet, Bradley's win was projected by the most prominent public pollster in the state, Mervin Field, who boasted on Election Day that Tom Bradley would defeat George Deukmejian, "making the Los Angeles mayor the first elected black governor in American history" (UPI 11-3-82). The reason for Field's enthusiasm was that his last weekend polling showed a 7-point margin for Bradley, but this was totally at variance from the Tarrance and Associates internal tracking results. Field's own exit polls, on Election Day itself, where voters were questioned after they left the polling places, also predicted a Bradley win. This caused the San Fransisco Chronicle, ignoring the closeness of the election and mixed polling results, to print 170,000 copies of its early morning Wednesday edition under the headline "Bradley Win Projected."

Also at variance with the Mervin Field exit polls were the NBC and the CBS networks, using both exit polls and actual returns from key precincts, when they declared George Deukmejian the winner and not Tom Bradley the winner. In an AP report, a KNBC newscaster told viewers on Election Night "...half of the polls are wrong and I don't know who's right." The only thing we know for sure is the election was too close to call, and some of the Election Day projections were right and others (notably Mervin Fields' projections) were wrong and, unfortunately, most of this explanation because of selective memory has not been carried forward to this day.

The Field Poll inaugurated the speculation that led to the baseless Bradley Effect theory when, after the 1982 election, Field said "race was a factor in the Bradley loss" (AP 11-4-82). Mervin Field cited no data, but only speculated that white conservative voters of both parties were more undecided and that he may have over-represented minority voters in his polling. Thus, the Bradley Effect was born amidst some major polling errors and a confusing array of mixed predictions, hardly a firm foundation to construct a theory.

Even later analysis of the 1982 election revealed the weakness in the Bradley Effect theory as Bradley actually won on election day turnout, but lost the absentee vote so badly that Deukmejian pulled ahead to win. That Bradley won the vote on Election Day would hardly seem to suggest a hidden or last minute anti-black backlash--on the contrary, it suggests how easy it would have been for weekend polls and Election Day exit polls to get it wrong, since the decisive group of voters had largely already voted before the final weekend and never showed up at the polls to answer the questions of exit pollsters.

When Barack Obama lost the 2008 New Hampshire primary after all seven pre-election polls had Obama projected as the winner, the Bradley Effect got a second wind, blown along by a lot of misinformed press speculation asserting that our nation was still suffering from latent racism. A few weeks later, after much analysis of election demographics, and with a more thoughtful examination, it is clear that race was not the determinant that gave Hillary Clinton a surprising victory. In fact, it was a combination of an older brand of feminism, the open party system that encouraged independents to vote in the primary and some Obama campaign hubris that caused the result.

The New Hampshire polling debacle was also eerily familiar to those of us who witnessed first-hand the 1982 California election day errors. A lesson learned from 1982 campaign, but not remembered in 2008, was what a San Francisco Chronicle editor said the day after the 1982 election, "It seemed logical...to project a continued gain for Bradley." There was never a consensus of data to support this logic. The 2008 New Hampshire update on the so-called Bradley Effect also falls short of proving this false theory of latent racism. Instead, the New Hampshire debacle should be labeled for what it is, the worst polling disaster since "Dewey Beats Truman."

The Deukmejian campaign tracking polls did not confirm any Bradley Effect and to interject this type of speculation into the 2008 presidential election is not only folly, but insulting to the political maturity of our nation's voters. To allow this theory to continue to persist anymore than 25 years is to damage our democracy, no matter who wins.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I am surprised this hasn't been covered here. It's called the Great Schlep and it features Sarah Silverman. I won't link it here because Joe would have massive heart failure. But it is on YouTube and is easy to find. It is extremely UN-PC, extraordinarily crude in it's language and funny. I recommend it.

BTW there are stories coming out about people taking her advice and getting positive results.

It's been linked before. Pretty funny stuff.

It's true. Barack Hussein Obama is a super ####ty name.

God I love her.

I want to have Sarah Silverman's baby.

Well if she's #### Jimmy Kimmel she would #### anyone.

Well, I can't help her career. So I don't have a shot.

 

[Gr00vus]

I'm not concerned about a let-up - it's too much fun to be part of the winning ticket for a change. Obama supporters are going to get out there and vote. I'd be more concerned if I were a rightie that McCain supporters will get discouraged and think that it doesn't matter whether they go and then have that also turn into a disaster down-ticket for Republicans. It'd be a darn shame if that happened.

I don't wish harm or collapse on the Republican party. Right now all we've got is two parties. Can anyone imagine what it'd be like if we had a single party dominating government all the time?BAD ANALOGY ALERT

See right now the U.S. is like Captain Kirk in that episode where he goes through the transporter and somehow two Kirks materialize, each one bearing different characteristics. It turns out, in order to function, Kirk needs both sets of characteristics. They balance each other, keep each other in check, filter each other, etc. So it is with the U.S. We need the Republicans and the Democrats right now. It keeps everybody honest. Maybe someday we'll get more viable parties, but right now two is all we really have. If the Republicans collapsed (and I really don't think that's a possibility) the whole country would be in trouble. That's not to say I'm not hoping that the Republicans take a long hard look at how they've squandered the last 8 years and that they get back to focusing on true conservatism and get out of the religion business. I know Obama is the right guy for President, but I'm not happy about the prospect of Democrats being a majority in Congress too. If it happens that way, I expect a correction in 2010.

Anyway, stay the course, 1000 points of light....

 

[commisholio]

I'm not concerned about a let-up - it's too much fun to be part of the winning ticket for a change. Obama supporters are going to get out there and vote. I'd be more concerned if I were a rightie that McCain supporters will get discouraged and think that it doesn't matter whether they go and then have that also turn into a disaster down-ticket for Republicans. It'd be a darn shame if that happened.

I don't wish harm or collapse on the Republican party. Right now all we've got is two parties. Can anyone imagine what it'd be like if we had a single party dominating government all the time?BAD ANALOGY ALERT

See right now the U.S. is like Captain Kirk in that episode where he goes through the transporter and somehow two Kirks materialize, each one bearing different characteristics. It turns out, in order to function, Kirk needs both sets of characteristics. They balance each other, keep each other in check, filter each other, etc. So it is with the U.S. We need the Republicans and the Democrats right now. It keeps everybody honest. Maybe someday we'll get more viable parties, but right now two is all we really have. If the Republicans collapsed (and I really don't think that's a possibility) the whole country would be in trouble. That's not to say I'm not hoping that the Republicans take a long hard look at how they've squandered the last 8 years and that they get back to focusing on true conservatism and get out of the religion business. I know Obama is the right guy for President, but I'm not happy about the prospect of Democrats being a majority in Congress too. If it happens that way, I expect a correction in 2010.

Anyway, stay the course, 1000 points of light....

I very badly want the Republican party we have to collapse. The crony-capitalist, neoconservative, authoritarian party that it is right now needs to die and be boen again in its small government roots. It will take a while, but I am hopeful that it will happen.

 

[Green and Gold]

Didn't think it would happen before the election was over, but I'm sick of politics. Election day cannot get here soon enough.

It's just become exhausting and depressing at this point.

Not when you have the prettiest, spunkiest little VP ever

Those qualities should garner her tons of respect on the world stage.

 

[kaa]

Let's face it. The market knows that if Obama wins, his presidency will be extremely hostile to the business sector. He will hike taxes, burden them with more regulations, and possibly create massive new overhead. Its not pretty. Obama seems set to wage class warfare instead of helping the economy. I don't know if its even possible to get results if Obama gets what he wants. Clinton merely tried to do some of these things in 1993 and wound up with pitiful approval ratings and a GOP congress.

I don't think Obama understands what he is getting into.

 

[Statorama]

Let's face it. The market knows that if Obama wins, his presidency will be extremely hostile to the business sector. He will hike taxes, burden them with more regulations, and possibly create massive new overhead. Its not pretty. Obama seems set to wage class warfare instead of helping the economy. I don't know if its even possible to get results if Obama gets what he wants. Clinton merely tried to do some of these things in 1993 and wound up with pitiful approval ratings and a GOP congress.

I don't think Obama understands what he is getting into.

The fallicy of Obama's Robin Hood game is that rich people, when threatened with higher taxes, turn their income into assets. They buy gold, they invest overseas...all kinds of things to lower their reportable income. THAT'S when the middle class really gets screwed.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Wow, quite a one-two punch there from BGP and Stat. We'd better listen to them.

 

[timschochet]

I really want Obama to be honest tonight with his more rabid supporters and let them know that they're not going to get all the spending stuff they've been dreaming about. I doubt he will be, though. But I hope he does.

 

[timschochet]

Wow, quite a one-two punch there from BGP and Stat. We'd better listen to them.

Why not? For once, they both made a whole lot of sense.

 

[kaa]

Let's face it. The market knows that if Obama wins, his presidency will be extremely hostile to the business sector. He will hike taxes, burden them with more regulations, and possibly create massive new overhead. Its not pretty. Obama seems set to wage class warfare instead of helping the economy. I don't know if its even possible to get results if Obama gets what he wants. Clinton merely tried to do some of these things in 1993 and wound up with pitiful approval ratings and a GOP congress.

I don't think Obama understands what he is getting into.

The fallicy of Obama's Robin Hood game is that rich people, when threatened with higher taxes, turn their income into assets. They buy gold, they invest overseas...all kinds of things to lower their reportable income. THAT'S when the middle class really gets screwed.

Obama isn't even Robin Hood. The villain in the story of Robin Hood wasn't Big Business, it was Big Government. The Sheriff of Nottingham. He was a greedy tax collector weighing down the people and siphoning off their wealth. Robin Hood was a conservative.

 

[Urinal Mint]

I just want to know how he plans to pay for all of these programs he's proposing. From what I can tell it isn't laid out clearly anywhere.

 

[Statorama]

OH COME ON

 

[Gr00vus]

Robin Hood was a conservative.

Let me get this straight - Robin Hood, who's whole deal is robbing from the rich to give to the poor, is now a conservative?

 

[Gr00vus]

OH COME ON

Obama buying air time on Fox - free market capitalism at its finest.

 

[bigbottom]

OH COME ON

I bet Obama hates apple pie too.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

OH COME ON

My boy's got juice!

 

[NCCommish]

OH COME ON

Obama buying air time on Fox - free market capitalism at its finest.

 

[Statorama]

OH COME ON

My boy's got juice!

All schtick aside, the dude has this thing wrapped up. Why doesn't he funnel some of that money down to the DNC to try and win some of the Senate seats up for grabs?Seems like overkill given all the polls.

 

[Gr00vus]

OH COME ON

My boy's got juice!

All schtick aside, the dude has this thing wrapped up. Why doesn't he funnel some of that money down to the DNC to try and win some of the Senate seats up for grabs?Seems like overkill given all the polls.

:coattails:

 

[The Football Freak]

OH COME ON

My boy's got juice!

All schtick aside, the dude has this thing wrapped up. Why doesn't he funnel some of that money down to the DNC to try and win some of the Senate seats up for grabs?Seems like overkill given all the polls.

:coattails:

Exactly. He is also going to offset some of the complacency that may have set in with people thinking "it's in the bag." What a well run campaign!

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Robin Hood was a conservative.

Let me get this straight - Robin Hood, who's whole deal is robbing from the rich to give to the poor, is now a conservative?

Robin Hood didn't steal from "the rich." He stole from the king, who got his money by taxing his subjects. Robin Hood was against confiscatory taxes. So I never thought I'd say this, but . . . I kind of agree with BGP.

 

[NCCommish]

Robin Hood was a conservative.

Let me get this straight - Robin Hood, who's whole deal is robbing from the rich to give to the poor, is now a conservative?

Robin Hood didn't steal from "the rich." He stole from the king, who got his money by taxing his subjects. Robin Hood was against confiscatory taxes. So I never thought I'd say this, but . . . I kind of agree with BGP.

No he didn't. He stole from the Sherriff who was collecting excessive taxes and using them for his own enrichment.

 

[Fennis]

We can all agree that Robin Hood was an elitist.

 

[Gr00vus]

Robin Hood was a conservative.

Let me get this straight - Robin Hood, who's whole deal is robbing from the rich to give to the poor, is now a conservative?

Robin Hood didn't steal from "the rich." He stole from the king, who got his money by taxing his subjects. Robin Hood was against confiscatory taxes. So I never thought I'd say this, but . . . I kind of agree with BGP.

No he didn't. He stole from the Sherriff who was collecting excessive taxes and using them for his own enrichment.

He also stole from clergy and nobles - aka the rich.

 

[NCCommish]

Robin Hood was a conservative.

Let me get this straight - Robin Hood, who's whole deal is robbing from the rich to give to the poor, is now a conservative?

Robin Hood didn't steal from "the rich." He stole from the king, who got his money by taxing his subjects. Robin Hood was against confiscatory taxes. So I never thought I'd say this, but . . . I kind of agree with BGP.

No he didn't. He stole from the Sherriff who was collecting excessive taxes and using them for his own enrichment.

He also stole from clergy and nobles - aka the rich.

True. So that means he was a commie right?

 

[adonis]

We can all agree that Robin Hood was an elitist.

He also engaged in illegal actions in order to achieve his political ends.I think that makes him a bit bipartisan.

 

[Gr00vus]

Robin Hood was a conservative.

Let me get this straight - Robin Hood, who's whole deal is robbing from the rich to give to the poor, is now a conservative?

Robin Hood didn't steal from "the rich." He stole from the king, who got his money by taxing his subjects. Robin Hood was against confiscatory taxes. So I never thought I'd say this, but . . . I kind of agree with BGP.

No he didn't. He stole from the Sherriff who was collecting excessive taxes and using them for his own enrichment.

He also stole from clergy and nobles - aka the rich.

True. So that means he was a commie right?

We're all commies boss - it's just a question of degree.

 

[Gr00vus]

We can all agree that Robin Hood was an elitist.

He also engaged in illegal actions in order to achieve his political ends.I think that makes him a bit bipartisan.

Or it makes him a terrorist. As always it depends on who gets to write the (hi)story.

 

[Fennis]

Robin Hood was a conservative.

Let me get this straight - Robin Hood, who's whole deal is robbing from the rich to give to the poor, is now a conservative?

Robin Hood didn't steal from "the rich." He stole from the king, who got his money by taxing his subjects. Robin Hood was against confiscatory taxes. So I never thought I'd say this, but . . . I kind of agree with BGP.

No he didn't. He stole from the Sherriff who was collecting excessive taxes and using them for his own enrichment.

He also stole from clergy and nobles - aka the rich.

True. So that means he was a commie right?

Terrorist.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Hero.

 

[NCCommish]

Robin Hood was a conservative.

Let me get this straight - Robin Hood, who's whole deal is robbing from the rich to give to the poor, is now a conservative?

Robin Hood didn't steal from "the rich." He stole from the king, who got his money by taxing his subjects. Robin Hood was against confiscatory taxes. So I never thought I'd say this, but . . . I kind of agree with BGP.

No he didn't. He stole from the Sherriff who was collecting excessive taxes and using them for his own enrichment.

He also stole from clergy and nobles - aka the rich.

True. So that means he was a commie right?

Terrorist.

Marxist Terrorist

 

[Jeremy]

OH COME ON

My boy's got juice!

Is there a chance this could backfire on Obama? By then people are probably going to be pretty weary of politics and might not take too kindly to having their Wheel of Fortune preempted.

 

[Fennis]

Robin Hood was a conservative.

Let me get this straight - Robin Hood, who's whole deal is robbing from the rich to give to the poor, is now a conservative?

Robin Hood didn't steal from "the rich." He stole from the king, who got his money by taxing his subjects. Robin Hood was against confiscatory taxes. So I never thought I'd say this, but . . . I kind of agree with BGP.

No he didn't. He stole from the Sherriff who was collecting excessive taxes and using them for his own enrichment.

He also stole from clergy and nobles - aka the rich.

True. So that means he was a commie right?

Terrorist.

Marxist Terrorist

Worse. A marxist who palled around with terrorists and hated plumbers. Kill him!!

 

[NCCommish]

OH COME ON

My boy's got juice!

Is there a chance this could backfire on Obama? By then people are probably going to be pretty weary of politics and might not take too kindly to having their Wheel of Fortune preempted.

Depends completely on what is done and how it's done. This could definitely go bad. But it could be the KO as well. We'll see.

 

[NCCommish]

Robin Hood was a conservative.

Let me get this straight - Robin Hood, who's whole deal is robbing from the rich to give to the poor, is now a conservative?

Robin Hood didn't steal from "the rich." He stole from the king, who got his money by taxing his subjects. Robin Hood was against confiscatory taxes. So I never thought I'd say this, but . . . I kind of agree with BGP.

No he didn't. He stole from the Sherriff who was collecting excessive taxes and using them for his own enrichment.

He also stole from clergy and nobles - aka the rich.

True. So that means he was a commie right?

Terrorist.

Marxist Terrorist

Worse. A marxist who palled around with terrorists and hated plumbers. Kill him!!

Only thing to do with that one

 

[Clayton Gray]

OH COME ON

My boy's got juice!

All schtick aside, the dude has this thing wrapped up. Why doesn't he funnel some of that money down to the DNC to try and win some of the Senate seats up for grabs?Seems like overkill given all the polls.

I gave to Obama. I didn't give to the DNC.