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***Official Big Brother 17 Thread***no spoilers (1 Viewer)

Not a bad double eviction night. Kind of feel bad for Steve on the timing. When you win the HOH on a night like that, you lose out on the stragety talk and deals with the rest of the house. He must not hate Becky as much as he claims.

 
Not a bad double eviction night. Kind of feel bad for Steve on the timing. When you win the HOH on a night like that, you lose out on the stragety talk and deals with the rest of the house. He must not hate Becky as much as he claims.
live feed watchers have no idea where Steves hate for Becky came from. Steve is just a weird guy.
 
Hell yeah, he's weird. Any time a grown man paces around on a reality show and openly says "mom, I need you", he's got issues.

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Not a bad double eviction night. Kind of feel bad for Steve on the timing. When you win the HOH on a night like that, you lose out on the stragety talk and deals with the rest of the house. He must not hate Becky as much as he claims.
Becky has some targets pointed at her back though.

Rough night for Becky. She looked so pissed and shocked after the first vote and the rest of the night. :lmao:

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Not a bad double eviction night. Kind of feel bad for Steve on the timing. When you win the HOH on a night like that, you lose out on the stragety talk and deals with the rest of the house. He must not hate Becky as much as he claims.
Becky has some targets pointed at her back though.

Rough night for Becky. She looked so pissed and shocked after the first vote and the rest of the night. :lmao:
I was wondering if Becky was expecting 8-0 for Shelli to go but then seeing that she was the lone vote for Meg to go it seems like she has no idea what the rest of the house is up to.

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Not a bad double eviction night. Kind of feel bad for Steve on the timing. When you win the HOH on a night like that, you lose out on the stragety talk and deals with the rest of the house. He must not hate Becky as much as he claims.
Becky has some targets pointed at her back though.

Rough night for Becky. She looked so pissed and shocked after the first vote and the rest of the night. :lmao:
I was wondering if Becky was expecting 8-0 for Shelli to go but then seeing that she was the lone vote for Meg to go it seems like she has no idea what the rest of the house is up to.
She knew. She hates Vanessa and Jackie was one of her in house friends.

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Not a bad double eviction night. Kind of feel bad for Steve on the timing. When you win the HOH on a night like that, you lose out on the stragety talk and deals with the rest of the house. He must not hate Becky as much as he claims.
Becky has some targets pointed at her back though.

Rough night for Becky. She looked so pissed and shocked after the first vote and the rest of the night. :lmao:
I was wondering if Becky was expecting 8-0 for Shelli to go but then seeing that she was the lone vote for Meg to go it seems like she has no idea what the rest of the house is up to.
Cjw_55106 said:
Not a bad double eviction night. Kind of feel bad for Steve on the timing. When you win the HOH on a night like that, you lose out on the stragety talk and deals with the rest of the house. He must not hate Becky as much as he claims.
Becky has some targets pointed at her back though.

Rough night for Becky. She looked so pissed and shocked after the first vote and the rest of the night. :lmao:
Looked like her face got hit by a train!! :tfp:

 
Becky doesnt bother me. She did get cocky pretty quickly when the game turned good for her for those few days.

I still like John and James at this point. Someone needs to consider breaking up the twins in the near future.

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Not a bad double eviction night. Kind of feel bad for Steve on the timing. When you win the HOH on a night like that, you lose out on the stragety talk and deals with the rest of the house. He must not hate Becky as much as he claims.
Becky has some targets pointed at her back though.

Rough night for Becky. She looked so pissed and shocked after the first vote and the rest of the night. :lmao:
I was wondering if Becky was expecting 8-0 for Shelli to go but then seeing that she was the lone vote for Meg to go it seems like she has no idea what the rest of the house is up to.
She knew. She hates Vanessa and Jackie was one of her in house friends.
Maybe she knew but she was completely disheveled all night. Her reign didn't do anything for her. To the other post above, she was REAL cocky in the edits over the past week.

 
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Cjw_55106 said:
Not a bad double eviction night. Kind of feel bad for Steve on the timing. When you win the HOH on a night like that, you lose out on the stragety talk and deals with the rest of the house. He must not hate Becky as much as he claims.
Becky has some targets pointed at her back though.

Rough night for Becky. She looked so pissed and shocked after the first vote and the rest of the night. :lmao:
I was wondering if Becky was expecting 8-0 for Shelli to go but then seeing that she was the lone vote for Meg to go it seems like she has no idea what the rest of the house is up to.
She knew. She hates Vanessa and Jackie was one of her in house friends.
Maybe she knew but she was completely disheveled all night. Her reign didn't do anything for her. To the other post above, she was REAL cocky in the edits over the past week.
Thats the advantage of the feeds. The TV show doesn't due the game justice. Becky did make mistakes this week for sure, but to be fair James/Jackie/Meg screwed her over big time, and hung her out to dry. Because of James being a big baby over Shelli, but in the end Big Brother isn't a team game.

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Not a bad double eviction night. Kind of feel bad for Steve on the timing. When you win the HOH on a night like that, you lose out on the stragety talk and deals with the rest of the house. He must not hate Becky as much as he claims.
Becky has some targets pointed at her back though.Rough night for Becky. She looked so pissed and shocked after the first vote and the rest of the night. :lmao:
I was wondering if Becky was expecting 8-0 for Shelli to go but then seeing that she was the lone vote for Meg to go it seems like she has no idea what the rest of the house is up to.
She knew. She hates Vanessa and Jackie was one of her in house friends.
Maybe she knew but she was completely disheveled all night. Her reign didn't do anything for her. To the other post above, she was REAL cocky in the edits over the past week.
Thats the advantage of the feeds. The TV show doesn't due the game justice. Becky did make mistakes this week for sure, but to be fair James/Jackie/Meg screwed her over big time, and hung her out to dry. Because of James being a big baby over Shelli, but in the end Big Brother isn't a team game.
If she really wanted Vanessa to go home, she shouldn't of put Shelli on the block. Can't have such a big target available. It was a crap plan to begin with by Becky.

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Not a bad double eviction night. Kind of feel bad for Steve on the timing. When you win the HOH on a night like that, you lose out on the stragety talk and deals with the rest of the house. He must not hate Becky as much as he claims.
Becky has some targets pointed at her back though.Rough night for Becky. She looked so pissed and shocked after the first vote and the rest of the night. :lmao:
I was wondering if Becky was expecting 8-0 for Shelli to go but then seeing that she was the lone vote for Meg to go it seems like she has no idea what the rest of the house is up to.
She knew. She hates Vanessa and Jackie was one of her in house friends.
Maybe she knew but she was completely disheveled all night. Her reign didn't do anything for her. To the other post above, she was REAL cocky in the edits over the past week.
Thats the advantage of the feeds. The TV show doesn't due the game justice. Becky did make mistakes this week for sure, but to be fair James/Jackie/Meg screwed her over big time, and hung her out to dry. Because of James being a big baby over Shelli, but in the end Big Brother isn't a team game.
If she really wanted Vanessa to go home, she shouldn't of put Shelli on the block. Can't have such a big target available. It was a crap plan to begin with by Becky.
True that was a huge mistake and cost her. She tried to ride the middle. She didn't want to piss off the twins and Austin going into the DE. She likes John and J/J/M were supposedly on her side, so that left her with only Shelli and Steve to put up.

 
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Cjw_55106 said:
Not a bad double eviction night. Kind of feel bad for Steve on the timing. When you win the HOH on a night like that, you lose out on the stragety talk and deals with the rest of the house. He must not hate Becky as much as he claims.
Becky has some targets pointed at her back though.

Rough night for Becky. She looked so pissed and shocked after the first vote and the rest of the night. :lmao:
I was wondering if Becky was expecting 8-0 for Shelli to go but then seeing that she was the lone vote for Meg to go it seems like she has no idea what the rest of the house is up to.
She knew. She hates Vanessa and Jackie was one of her in house friends.
Maybe she knew but she was completely disheveled all night. Her reign didn't do anything for her. To the other post above, she was REAL cocky in the edits over the past week.
Thats the advantage of the feeds. The TV show doesn't due the game justice. Becky did make mistakes this week for sure, but to be fair James/Jackie/Meg screwed her over big time, and hung her out to dry. Because of James being a big baby over Shelli, but in the end Big Brother isn't a team game.
Exactly, loved watching her get screwed over after how cocky she was when she pitched her awesome plan to everyone and when she had 1 on 1's with Vanessa. The drunk one was classic.

 
So Steve finally has come around to talk strategy. He emphatically says he doesnt want to be a pawn, yet, there he is. I certainly dont want John to go home. Im still a fan of James. Meg is the least deserving player left.....if there is such a thing. If they continue to let Vanessa slide, it could really end up biting them in the ###.

 
Don't get Austin at all. So wishy washy and has layed out to everyone that he's in an alliance with everyone. How meaningful is that?

Pretty tired of Vanessa at this point but can't get enough of Liz for some reason.

 
Don't get Austin at all. So wishy washy and has layed out to everyone that he's in an alliance with everyone. How meaningful is that?

Pretty tired of Vanessa at this point but can't get enough of Liz for some reason.
Well I guess he's not in an alliance with Steve and John anymore that's for sure. I was hoping Vanessa would take John off so Austin would've had to put someone else up and then maybe Vanessa, John and whoever is left of Steve, James or Meg would join up.

 
Boggles my mind how this group allows the triumvirate of Austin and Twins hang around.

Usually couples get targeted...but a freaking threes one doesnt?!

Entire house talks about Vanessa manipulation and no one gives her the boot?

It's weird how being inept at everything can keep someone in the game so long...but least we get to enjoy Meg's naturals a bit longer.

Pulling for John and James still...eeveryone else can suck it.

I'm assuming production will do whatever it takes to keep Vanessa for the impending drama that will unfold whenever someone finally confronts her.

 
Boggles my mind how this group allows the triumvirate of Austin and Twins hang around.

Usually couples get targeted...but a freaking threes one doesnt?!
To be fair, the other side targeted Shelli & Clay first and Liz & Austin have been in control of HOH since (not counting Steve's 30 minutes of HOH)

 
Boggles my mind how this group allows the triumvirate of Austin and Twins hang around.

Usually couples get targeted...but a freaking threes one doesnt?!

Entire house talks about Vanessa manipulation and no one gives her the boot?

It's weird how being inept at everything can keep someone in the game so long...but least we get to enjoy Meg's naturals a bit longer.

Pulling for John and James still...eeveryone else can suck it.

I'm assuming production will do whatever it takes to keep Vanessa for the impending drama that will unfold whenever someone finally confronts her.
This.

After this week's eviction, there will be Austin and the Twins, and 4 remaining players. If the 4 remaining don't realize that they need to team up (no matter who they are) then honestly none of those 4 deserve to win. That's such basic game play. There's no way you ride to the end with Austin and the Twins and expect them to split themselves up. You're not turning them on each other.

I get it if someone decides they can ride with them then win the important comps, but I'd much rather take my chances with the other 3, and have the opportunity to win comps AND make allies too.

At this point, If they don't work on breaking up the trio next week, I feel like Liz is almost assured a spot in the final 2.

 
Don't get Austin at all. So wishy washy and has layed out to everyone that he's in an alliance with everyone. How meaningful is that?

Pretty tired of Vanessa at this point but can't get enough of Liz for some reason.
Twins were great as a single entity, but by now have annoyed most live feeders in to submission. I can't watch anymore without wanting to punch something.

JJJJAAAAA-AAAAAAAMMMMEEESSSSUUUUHHHH-UUUUHHHHHHhhhh.... :wall:

I just want the whole thing to blow up in all their faces at this point.

 
Don't get Austin at all. So wishy washy and has layed out to everyone that he's in an alliance with everyone. How meaningful is that?

Pretty tired of Vanessa at this point but can't get enough of Liz for some reason.
Twins were great as a single entity, but by now have annoyed most live feeders in to submission. I can't watch anymore without wanting to punch something.

JJJJAAAAA-AAAAAAAMMMMEEESSSSUUUUHHHH-UUUUHHHHHHhhhh.... :wall:

I just want the whole thing to blow up in all their faces at this point.
You're really selling the live feed there. So sorry I'm missing it.

 
Don't get Austin at all. So wishy washy and has layed out to everyone that he's in an alliance with everyone. How meaningful is that?

Pretty tired of Vanessa at this point but can't get enough of Liz for some reason.
Twins were great as a single entity, but by now have annoyed most live feeders in to submission. I can't watch anymore without wanting to punch something.JJJJAAAAA-AAAAAAAMMMMEEESSSSUUUUHHHH-UUUUHHHHHHhhhh.... :wall:

I just want the whole thing to blow up in all their faces at this point.
You're really selling the live feed there. So sorry I'm missing it.
Yea I am strongly suggesting an avoid, they're unwatchable right now.

 
Don't get Austin at all. So wishy washy and has layed out to everyone that he's in an alliance with everyone. How meaningful is that?

Pretty tired of Vanessa at this point but can't get enough of Liz for some reason.
Twins were great as a single entity, but by now have annoyed most live feeders in to submission. I can't watch anymore without wanting to punch something.JJJJAAAAA-AAAAAAAMMMMEEESSSSUUUUHHHH-UUUUHHHHHHhhhh.... :wall:

I just want the whole thing to blow up in all their faces at this point.
You're really selling the live feed there. So sorry I'm missing it.
Yea I am strongly suggesting an avoid, they're unwatchable right now.
Unless you like to watch them play pop ball or whatever the hell they call it.

 
TenTimes said:
Brony said:
TenTimes said:
Brony said:
Don't get Austin at all. So wishy washy and has layed out to everyone that he's in an alliance with everyone. How meaningful is that?

Pretty tired of Vanessa at this point but can't get enough of Liz for some reason.
Twins were great as a single entity, but by now have annoyed most live feeders in to submission. I can't watch anymore without wanting to punch something.JJJJAAAAA-AAAAAAAMMMMEEESSSSUUUUHHHH-UUUUHHHHHHhhhh.... :wall:

I just want the whole thing to blow up in all their faces at this point.
You're really selling the live feed there. So sorry I'm missing it.
Yea I am strongly suggesting an avoid, they're unwatchable right now.
no spoilers. But has there been anything interesting this season on the feeds that we have missed that wont spoil it for us?

 
Engelberg said:
So what did Zingbot say to James>? I rewound it 4 times and still couldn't get it. Something about a friend?
Meg will take you somewhere very special after the show... The friend zone. Zing.

Zingbot was pretty weak this year. Although he did give away Megs weak and Vanessa's "masterful" game play. That should be a huge hint to the house guests that they need to target Vanessa ASAP.

 
TenTimes said:
Brony said:
TenTimes said:
Brony said:
Don't get Austin at all. So wishy washy and has layed out to everyone that he's in an alliance with everyone. How meaningful is that?

Pretty tired of Vanessa at this point but can't get enough of Liz for some reason.
Twins were great as a single entity, but by now have annoyed most live feeders in to submission. I can't watch anymore without wanting to punch something.JJJJAAAAA-AAAAAAAMMMMEEESSSSUUUUHHHH-UUUUHHHHHHhhhh.... :wall:

I just want the whole thing to blow up in all their faces at this point.
You're really selling the live feed there. So sorry I'm missing it.
Yea I am strongly suggesting an avoid, they're unwatchable right now.
no spoilers. But has there been anything interesting this season on the feeds that we have missed that wont spoil it for us?
I've only watched the Thursday show the past few weeks so someone else should answer this. Not sure if it comes across on the TV show because he's so tight lipped, but John has wanted nothing more than to evict Vanessa for weeks. I think the story of this season will be all the chances the house could have evicted Vanessa but didn't. Steve missed his shot at the double eviction, I thought he had a chance at final 3 until he sent Jackie out. Unless you're interested in Austin/Liz getting freaky in the HOH bed for 2 weeks straight. That happened on the feeds too.

 
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Engelberg said:
So what did Zingbot say to James>? I rewound it 4 times and still couldn't get it. Something about a friend?
Meg will take you somewhere very special after the show... The friend zone. Zing.

Zingbot was pretty weak this year. Although he did give away Megs weak and Vanessa's "masterful" game play. That should be a huge hint to the house guests that they need to target Vanessa ASAP.
He also got Austin pretty good with the girlfriend zing

 
Johnny Mac saying he would go after Meg was priceless.Of ALL the people left in the house he chooses to go after Meg :lmao: :lmao:

 
Boggles my mind how this group allows the triumvirate of Austin and Twins hang around.

Usually couples get targeted...but a freaking threes one doesnt?!
To be fair, the other side targeted Shelli & Clay first and Liz & Austin have been in control of HOH since (not counting Steve's 30 minutes of HOH)
To break them up they just needed to get 1 out. Once Clay was gone, that couple was gonzo. That's the mistake in general.
 
Can someone explain how this works?

Let's say you're one of the triplets...or Austwins...whatever you want to call them.

You're in alliance with Vanessa.

Vanessa is HoH.

Vanessa puts up James and Meg...not Johnny Mac (she just put him out...but now is cool with him coming back?)

James wins Veto.

Vanessa pulls you aside and tells you, "I'm going to have to put one of you up because if I put up Johnny Mac or Steve...you'll flip on me and vote Johnny Mac or Steve before Meg."

She's blatantly told you to your face that she does not trust you or this alliance.

Now...I understand you might need to eat it right there and not cause a fight...but how on Earth is Vanessa not your number one target after that discussion?

She says she doesn't trust you, her actions show that she's not willing to put Johnny Mac up or risk him going home...you HAVE to know she's flipped on you, right?

It just pisses me off how this continues...every week Vanessa is getting the master manipulator edit when all she does is cry and bully and these idiots all just fall in line.

 
If this isn't the weakest cast BB has had I'd be surprised. I think they're pretty much all recruits except Steve and Austin.

I like the nickname Crynessa. Fits her.

 
The crying is driving me crazy - I'm not 100% convinced that it's real, may be part of her strategy. As for why the triplets should go after Vanessa - they probably should and if Meg goes they should put James up and tell Vanessa she's the pawn like Julia was and put her up next to him.

 
These people would have to be idiots to vote out Meg with one of the twins on the block.

So, obviously they will vote out Meg, I guess.

 
Can someone explain how this works?

Let's say you're one of the triplets...or Austwins...whatever you want to call them.

You're in alliance with Vanessa.

Vanessa is HoH.

Vanessa puts up James and Meg...not Johnny Mac (she just put him out...but now is cool with him coming back?)

James wins Veto.

Vanessa pulls you aside and tells you, "I'm going to have to put one of you up because if I put up Johnny Mac or Steve...you'll flip on me and vote Johnny Mac or Steve before Meg."

She's blatantly told you to your face that she does not trust you or this alliance.

Now...I understand you might need to eat it right there and not cause a fight...but how on Earth is Vanessa not your number one target after that discussion?

She says she doesn't trust you, her actions show that she's not willing to put Johnny Mac up or risk him going home...you HAVE to know she's flipped on you, right?

It just pisses me off how this continues...every week Vanessa is getting the master manipulator edit when all she does is cry and bully and these idiots all just fall in line.
...Yet Vanessa somehow hasn't realized that THIS is the week to flip the house and vote the Twins and Austin out...

I've been saying for weeks that when they are down to 8, someone needs to work on getting Austin and the twins out. Vanessa is the perfect person to do it. Think about it...They're 3, then you have two 2-person alliances, and then Vanessa. If she sends home one of the 2-person alliances, the odds of the remaining person working with you are slim. She'd be so much better off getting Johnny Mac, Steve, James, and Meg together, and saying, look, final 5...let's get rid of those 3. Start that war, and let the other 4 share in your dirty work. Then, when it's down to 5, she basically gets to pick which of the pairs she wants to work with, because she'd be the swing. Guaranteed final 3 if she can just avoid getting too dirty.

If you keep voting out the 4 and leaving the AusTwins, you're eventually (like...next week) going to reach a point where you don't have enough votes, and/or it'll be tough to win HOH. Once you get to the final 4 with Vanessa and the AusTwins, Vanessa is screwed unless she wins comps. I can't believe she doesn't realize this.

People in this game are always so concerned about blood on their hands...to the point where WHEN they need to make big moves, they don't.

 
Can someone explain how this works?

Let's say you're one of the triplets...or Austwins...whatever you want to call them.

You're in alliance with Vanessa.

Vanessa is HoH.

Vanessa puts up James and Meg...not Johnny Mac (she just put him out...but now is cool with him coming back?)

James wins Veto.

Vanessa pulls you aside and tells you, "I'm going to have to put one of you up because if I put up Johnny Mac or Steve...you'll flip on me and vote Johnny Mac or Steve before Meg."

She's blatantly told you to your face that she does not trust you or this alliance.

Now...I understand you might need to eat it right there and not cause a fight...but how on Earth is Vanessa not your number one target after that discussion?

She says she doesn't trust you, her actions show that she's not willing to put Johnny Mac up or risk him going home...you HAVE to know she's flipped on you, right?

It just pisses me off how this continues...every week Vanessa is getting the master manipulator edit when all she does is cry and bully and these idiots all just fall in line.
...Yet Vanessa somehow hasn't realized that THIS is the week to flip the house and vote the Twins and Austin out...

I've been saying for weeks that when they are down to 8, someone needs to work on getting Austin and the twins out. Vanessa is the perfect person to do it. Think about it...They're 3, then you have two 2-person alliances, and then Vanessa. If she sends home one of the 2-person alliances, the odds of the remaining person working with you are slim. She'd be so much better off getting Johnny Mac, Steve, James, and Meg together, and saying, look, final 5...let's get rid of those 3. Start that war, and let the other 4 share in your dirty work. Then, when it's down to 5, she basically gets to pick which of the pairs she wants to work with, because she'd be the swing. Guaranteed final 3 if she can just avoid getting too dirty.

If you keep voting out the 4 and leaving the AusTwins, you're eventually (like...next week) going to reach a point where you don't have enough votes, and/or it'll be tough to win HOH. Once you get to the final 4 with Vanessa and the AusTwins, Vanessa is screwed unless she wins comps. I can't believe she doesn't realize this.

People in this game are always so concerned about blood on their hands...to the point where WHEN they need to make big moves, they don't.
Well said Fat Nick. I have been saying all week that the house is a bunch of morons if they don't vote out Julia.

 
I think everything about Vanessa pisses me off now.

I just can't see getting through a conversation with her without calling her on her BS...her threatening to "get mad" and me laughing my @zz off.

How can she sit there and tell James and Meg that she put them on the block because they're a couple...they won't vote either one out.

King in check and his queen.

Really Vanessa? Let's check the math on that nonsense.

So...a couple is a threat, eh?

And the triumvirate of ignorance is not? How do you figure that a couple (one of which includes the incredibly inept Meg) is somehow more of a threat than THREE people who are tied to one another?

She just pisses me off with constantly changing the argument to suit her insane motivations.

 
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TenTimes said:
PinkydaPimp said:
they should get vanessa out right here
Another opportunity missed. John might be our last hope and I don't think he has a friend in the house.
I think it's now 3v3 with Vanessa, Steve and John getting together.
If Vanessa isn't smart enough to realize this, and stays with the AusTwins, then she deserves to lose. Getting rid of Johnny Mac or Steve here and giving the AusTwins a mathematical majority is basically handing them the final 3. There's no chance of her making it to the final 2 if she does that. Even if she pairs with them, they still have to ensure Liz or Austin don't win the next HOH...

As I said earlier, the smart move would've been to go with Johnny Mac, James, and Steve during the double-eviction and gotten rid of Julia now. Going right up until the brink of mathematical advantage before trying to get rid of one of the AusTwins is just too risky IMO.

 
Yep, Vanessa dug her own grave (most likely) and can't say that I'm sad at all about it.

For as much squabbling and fence sitting as Austin and Vanessa & Twins have done, they did get their group to final 6 with only Steve and Johnny Mac in their way. But, considering this particular cast, it doesn't feel like much of an accomplishment.

While this is a weaker cast than past seasons, I have enjoyed watching a season that has no stupid twists that affects game play, nor any controversial fights that result in death threats or protests or the like. May seem boring by comparison, but I've liked it.

 
All these people basically do whatever Vanessa says. It was entertaining watching Austin lose his mind after that, idiot twins...

 
All these people basically do whatever Vanessa says. It was entertaining watching Austin lose his mind after that, idiot twins...
Agree...Vanessa's move to get Julia to pick Austin was crazy. Talk about not having a brain. Then Vanessa manages to spin it to look like she was doing the twins a favor. Crazy. I don't know how she does it, but her ability to manipulate is 10/10. She might not always push for the moves I think she should, but she gets people to buy into her moves, whatever they are.

I'm waiting for Vanessa to find a way to end up in the finals with Julia...I feel like that'd be the most obvious landslide victory. Julia hasn't had a game to play all season...she came in with alliances already made for her (under the guise of Liz), and she hasn't done anything except be dumb since she came in via the Twin Twist.

 
All these people basically do whatever Vanessa says. It was entertaining watching Austin lose his mind after that, idiot twins...
Agree...Vanessa's move to get Julia to pick Austin was crazy. Talk about not having a brain. Then Vanessa manages to spin it to look like she was doing the twins a favor. Crazy. I don't know how she does it, but her ability to manipulate is 10/10. She might not always push for the moves I think she should, but she gets people to buy into her moves, whatever they are.

I'm waiting for Vanessa to find a way to end up in the finals with Julia...I feel like that'd be the most obvious landslide victory. Julia hasn't had a game to play all season...she came in with alliances already made for her (under the guise of Liz), and she hasn't done anything except be dumb since she came in via the Twin Twist.
Vanessa is very persuasive by instilling fear and doubt then making it believable by twisting the story in their favor. She waited for the last moment to say something to Julia. Perfect. Typical ditzy girl behavior - she panics and calls Austin's name.

 
All these people basically do whatever Vanessa says. It was entertaining watching Austin lose his mind after that, idiot twins...
Agree...Vanessa's move to get Julia to pick Austin was crazy. Talk about not having a brain. Then Vanessa manages to spin it to look like she was doing the twins a favor. Crazy. I don't know how she does it, but her ability to manipulate is 10/10. She might not always push for the moves I think she should, but she gets people to buy into her moves, whatever they are.

I'm waiting for Vanessa to find a way to end up in the finals with Julia...I feel like that'd be the most obvious landslide victory. Julia hasn't had a game to play all season...she came in with alliances already made for her (under the guise of Liz), and she hasn't done anything except be dumb since she came in via the Twin Twist.
Vanessa is very persuasive by instilling fear and doubt then making it believable by twisting the story in their favor. She waited for the last moment to say something to Julia. Perfect. Typical ditzy girl behavior - she panics and calls Austin's name.
Also, she said last night, "I'm an expert in Game Theory." If she had said that to Steve, or maybe Johnny Mac, it would've raised red flags as to why a "DJ" would be an expert in game theory, and might have blown her cover to reveal she's a poker player...Fortunately for her, the twins probably have no clue what Game Theory is...

 

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