***OFFICIAL*** Boardwalk Empire thread (2 Viewers)

[Raider Nation]

Were this real life, Chalky would have absolutely given up Nucky. He always treated Chalky like crap, being dismissive and talking down to him.

You think Nucky treats him worse then other powerful "high ups" do?

Yeah I'd guess that Chalky isn't exactly used to being treated all that well by the white folk. The way I see it, Chalky's best option is to side with Nucky. At least that way he knows what he's getting into. He doesn't know Gyp or perhaps he actually knows enough about him not to trust him."Should I go with the googly-eye guy that has treated me like an n-word or with the crazy Dago that will probably treat me like an n-word and maybe even beat me to death with a shovel?"

I suppose this is fair. Better the devil you know, and all that.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Were this real life, Chalky would have absolutely given up Nucky. He always treated Chalky like crap, being dismissive and talking down to him.

You think Nucky treats him worse then other powerful "high ups" do?

Yeah I'd guess that Chalky isn't exactly used to being treated all that well by the white folk. The way I see it, Chalky's best option is to side with Nucky. At least that way he knows what he's getting into. He doesn't know Gyp or perhaps he actually knows enough about him not to trust him."Should I go with the googly-eye guy that has treated me like an n-word or with the crazy Dago that will probably treat me like an n-word and maybe even beat me to death with a shovel?"

I suppose this is fair. Better the white devil you know, and all that.

fixed

 

[biggamer3]

I really want Marg to die in the finale so we can be rid of her story once and for all.

This show has went from just average to amazing in the latter half of this season

 

[BigTex]

I still think its unrealistic that gyp can take over entire towns or cities with impunity apparently.

Only problem I had with this episode on the realism part of it was the fact that they gave Nucky a heads up in the form of a dead man in a box that they were after him imminently. Why heighten his security even more? just send all those people at him before you send him the Dead Owen

When you are over-confident and cocky you don't realize the mistakes you are making.

 

[Barry]

All I ask is that they don't kill off Harrow.

Have to wonder how his own private war will impact/be impacted by Nucky's war with the same enemy.

I'm thinking he'll come in pretty handy for Nucky whether he intends to or not.

Please kill Jimmy's mom. PLEASE

I would like to see her relegated to regular whore status. This seems like a fit punishment for her.

I hope Gillian survives. She's good at what she does, another Janice but hotter hot. I'll be cheering on Richard next episode but if he does get killed I hope it's Gillian's hands around his neck.

 

[Barry]

What are the chances a med student could extract a bullet from a restless German with no anaesthesia and crude instruments?

the German was drunk and Nucky is very strong.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I still think its unrealistic that gyp can take over entire towns or cities with impunity apparently.

Only problem I had with this episode on the realism part of it was the fact that they gave Nucky a heads up in the form of a dead man in a box that they were after him imminently. Why heighten his security even more? just send all those people at him before you send him the Dead Owen

Nucky referred to this in his getaway with Eddie. He hired goons to protect him once Owen showed up, but they were already on the take for Gyp/Masseria. Hence the easy access Gyp had to the Ritz, and the narrow miss that resulted therefrom.

 

[Barry]

Pretty depressed this is the last episode of the season. Haven't enjoyed a show like this in a long time. Wish it would be a two hour finale or something...

agreed. There needs to be more. A lot of the characters could have their own spin-off.

 

[peaces]

All I ask is that they don't kill off Harrow.

Have to wonder how his own private war will impact/be impacted by Nucky's war with the same enemy.

I'm thinking he'll come in pretty handy for Nucky whether he intends to or not.

Please kill Jimmy's mom. PLEASE

I would like to see her relegated to regular whore status. This seems like a fit punishment for her.

I hope Gillian survives. She's good at what she does, another Janice but hotter hot. I'll be cheering on Richard next episode but if he does get killed I hope it's Gillian's hands around his neck.

Pencil eraser nips

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I'm not sure we're going to see Harrow become Nucky's muscle or even join his side. Looks to me like Harrow is about to start his own private war.

Agree. His adversary is Gillian in this war, so I doubt he even sees Gyp in the finale. He wants the boy so ultimately Harrow and Gillian will face off over the boy. One will have to go. I have a feeling the show's creators would kill off Harrow before Gillian, so I'm guessing Harrow dies saving the boy. I hope I'm wrong as I despise Gillian, except when she's nekkid, but I can see it playing out this way.

Harrow is starting his own private war, I agree, but I don't think it's with Gillian, as much as we would like that. Harrow looks at all these guys in the house as a real problem. He probably figured out he couldn't take the kid away from the house and kidnap him, but he sure as hell can clean out all of Gyp's men. Also, no matter how much he despises Gillian, he won't orphan the boy. He also wouldn't need to arm himself quite as thoroughly as he did just to take out Gillian. I think his plan us to completely clean out all of Gyp's men, and in that process, I bet he and Nucky join forces.By the way, how about the interesting dynamic if Harrow takes out Gyp in the process of cleaning out that house -- probably saving Gillian in the process. She then becomes indebted to him forever, and if he lives, the tables turn, and maybe between that and Harrow's newfound allegiance with Nucky, he starts his own rise to power in AC...

Would love to see Harrow have his day in the sun and rise to a position of power. Especially if it puts Gillian in his pocket. Something about him finding love with the woman whose name eacapes me screams tragedy, though.I like your version much better! Here's to Harrow's House of Pleasure, with Gilllian naked each week.

I prefer it to remain Gillian's House of Pleasure, but with Harrow naked each week. Knob + mask = gold.

 

[TeamDingo]

Were this real life, Chalky would have absolutely given up Nucky. He always treated Chalky like crap, being dismissive and talking down to him.

Like the time him and Eli handed over the KKK to him?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

GPJ'S ***OFFICIAL*** BOARDWALK EMPIRE SEASON 3 FINALE DEATH ODDS, a.k.a. RaiderNation's favorite post today

GYP ROSETTI

YES -700

CHALKY WHITE

NO -400

EDDIE

NO -200

RANDOM SICILIAN GUY

YES -3000

I'll take a 4 team parlay of the above.

 

[Carver]

Sad to say...

I just cant see harrow making it out of this season. Him working for Nucky is too feel goodish. it's out of line with how the show has worked so far. I just don't see it.

It's looking like a suicide misson in attempt to take Jimmy's son. Im guessing he gets shot in the head buy a random (wounded) goon just as he has Gillian in the cross-hairs.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Harrow going to work for Nucky would be an interesting situation. He may have nowhere else to turn, and yet, he knows Nucky is the guy who killed Jimmy. Whether or not "Jimmy was a soldier", that can't sit well with Harrow.

 

[psychobillies]

Harrow going to work for Nucky would be an interesting situation. He may have nowhere else to turn, and yet, he knows Nucky is the guy who killed Jimmy. Whether or not "Jimmy was a soldier", that can't sit well with Harrow.

Well Jimmy did try to kill Nucky first. I think that's what Harrow meant by the whole soldier thing. Harrow probably doesn't blame him.

 

[Swing 51]

Harrow going to work for Nucky would be an interesting situation. He may have nowhere else to turn, and yet, he knows Nucky is the guy who killed Jimmy. Whether or not "Jimmy was a soldier", that can't sit well with Harrow.

Well Jimmy did try to kill Nucky first. I think that's what Harrow meant by the whole soldier thing. Harrow probably doesn't blame him.

This was covered in Bone for Tuna. Harrow was avenging Angela.

Hearing that Mickey Doyle was trying to bolster his reputation by taking credit for killing Manny Horvitz, the mild-mannered marksman forcefully brought Mickey to Nucky to recant his story and then confessed he was the one who shot Horvitz. Concerned that Harrow would target him because he had killed Jimmy, Nucky is relieved to discover that Richard had only planned to avenge Angela, noting that Jimmy "was a soldier. He fought. He lost." Dealing with his demons, Nucky wondered if Harrow ever thought about any of the people he had killed. "You know the answer to that yourself," was the response from the World War I sharpshooter. Drawing on the emotion of Harrow's backstory and Nucky's internal struggle over shooting Jimmy, this was a powerful scene that established the neutral relationship between the two.

http://www.tvrage.com/news/2552/review-boardwalk-empire-improves-fortunes-with-bone-for-tuna

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I know it was covered, but it seems like Harrow wouldn't fall into hardcore loyalty for the guy he knows pulled the trigger on his best friend, regardless of circumstance. Theirs would be a marriage of convenience based on a shared foe, those types of relationships are tenuous at best. That's why I think it could be interesting - it gives the writers a lot of different ways they could go with it without the viewer questioning motive too strongly.

 

[(HULK)]

Great episode, looking forward to the finale.

 

[The Captain]

Sad to say...I just cant see harrow making it out of this season. Him working for Nucky is too feel goodish. it's out of line with how the show has worked so far. I just don't see it. It's looking like a suicide misson in attempt to take Jimmy's son. Im guessing he gets shot in the head buy a random (wounded) goon just as he has Gillian in the cross-hairs.

Get out of my head!!!! That's almost exactly how I see it going down. I also agree with your Omar Little/Harrow sentiment.

 

[biggamer3]

I am guessing that Van Alden has to play a part in the finale, I cant fathom the show spending the amount of time on his involvement in teh Chicago scene and not have a carryover effect into Nucky's battle now

 

[Gr00vus]

I could see Capone having a place for Harrow as they sort of have a relationship through Jimmy already - though I think Capone ridiculed Harrow once or twice?

Fantastic episode. Only things missing were Steven Root and Van Alden. Seeing this much Chalky just makes me more disappointed they didn't have more scenes with him previously this season. I hope he makes it through the finale, but I'm doubtful. Seems like he'll be a give up to keep Capone with Nucky somehow as they were showing a lot of tension between Chalky's guys and Capone's guys in the preview. It'd be too clean to let him make it through and establish his nightclub. It kinda sucks that you know some of these guys can't exit the show until certain points. It just makes the fate of the non-historial figures a when, not an if.

I'm thinking I want to see more Lansky too, which I guess should be happening in subsequent seasons. That guy's been doing a very good, understated acting job.

Also, I don't think Buscemi has gotten enough credit for his work in this here in this thread. It's not an easy role he's playing - he's the central figure, yet almost bland in comparison with the cast of characters around him most of the time. Despite that, he plays the intensity of what's going on perfectly without going over the top.

Looking forward to the last episode of the season - then its a long winter until Game Of Thrones starts up again.

 

[jdoggydogg]

That shovel scene was repulsive. And now the Irishman is dead? What's the one thing a show with few sympathetic characters should never do? Kill off one of the few remaining good characters.

no clue why they keep killing off the few likable characters. Guess Richard harrow is next

They're all involved in a dangerous business. People die. Would you rather they pulled punches and kept characters alive with completely inexplicable logic? (looking at you, Sons of Anarchy)

You say "realism" I say the show has very little new ideas other than killing people.

 

[jdoggydogg]

All I ask is that they don't kill off Harrow.

That will be the death blow for this show.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

That shovel scene was repulsive. And now the Irishman is dead? What's the one thing a show with few sympathetic characters should never do? Kill off one of the few remaining good characters.

no clue why they keep killing off the few likable characters. Guess Richard harrow is next

They're all involved in a dangerous business. People die. Would you rather they pulled punches and kept characters alive with completely inexplicable logic? (looking at you, Sons of Anarchy)

You say "realism" I say the show has very little new ideas other than killing people.

Been following what's been going on in Mexico over the last two decades?

 

[=Smackdown=]

then its a long winter until Game Of Thrones starts up again.

3/31/2013 is a loooong wait

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

I think I would give almost anything to see Harrow and Van Alden team up in some sort of "Murder Inc." type partnership. can you imagine the hilarious dialog between those two?

I was hoping Harrow would say something to Gillian as he left...something along the lines of "you're doing to die alone." but I know that's not his style.

 

[jdoggydogg]

That shovel scene was repulsive. And now the Irishman is dead? What's the one thing a show with few sympathetic characters should never do? Kill off one of the few remaining good characters.

no clue why they keep killing off the few likable characters. Guess Richard harrow is next

They're all involved in a dangerous business. People die. Would you rather they pulled punches and kept characters alive with completely inexplicable logic? (looking at you, Sons of Anarchy)

You say "realism" I say the show has very little new ideas other than killing people.

Been following what's been going on in Mexico over the last two decades?

Yes. I've also read a lot about the Holocaust. What does that have to do with this show jumping the shark?

 

[Gr00vus]

What does that have to do with this show jumping the shark?

What does jumping the shark have to do with this show?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

That shovel scene was repulsive. And now the Irishman is dead? What's the one thing a show with few sympathetic characters should never do? Kill off one of the few remaining good characters.

no clue why they keep killing off the few likable characters. Guess Richard harrow is next

They're all involved in a dangerous business. People die. Would you rather they pulled punches and kept characters alive with completely inexplicable logic? (looking at you, Sons of Anarchy)

You say "realism" I say the show has very little new ideas other than killing people.

Been following what's been going on in Mexico over the last two decades?

Yes. I've also read a lot about the Holocaust. What does that have to do with this show jumping the shark?

The show is based around bootlegging, which is an inherently dangerous trade. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. It's not like Parks and Rec. keeps killing off its best characters.

 

[BigTex]

Harrow going to work for Nucky would be an interesting situation. He may have nowhere else to turn, and yet, he knows Nucky is the guy who killed Jimmy. Whether or not "Jimmy was a soldier", that can't sit well with Harrow.

Harrow and Nucky already addressed this issue...there is no issue.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

That shovel scene was repulsive. And now the Irishman is dead? What's the one thing a show with few sympathetic characters should never do? Kill off one of the few remaining good characters.

no clue why they keep killing off the few likable characters. Guess Richard harrow is next

They're all involved in a dangerous business. People die. Would you rather they pulled punches and kept characters alive with completely inexplicable logic? (looking at you, Sons of Anarchy)

You say "realism" I say the show has very little new ideas other than killing people.

Been following what's been going on in Mexico over the last two decades?

Yes. I've also read a lot about the Holocaust. What does that have to do with this show jumping the shark?

Seriously? You were more into Jimmy's wife's art or what?

 

[Otis]

Also, I don't think Buscemi has gotten enough credit for his work in this here in this thread. It's not an easy role he's playing - he's the central figure, yet almost bland in comparison with the cast of characters around him most of the time. Despite that, he plays the intensity of what's going on perfectly without going over the top.

I'll say that I thought Buscemi's acting in the first season was generally pretty bad, contrived, and ham handed. Really didn't think he was good at all, but I enjoyed the story and other characters, and so I rolled with it.But this season? Especially the last few episodes? He's a whole different actor, and totally and completely fantastic.

 

[belljr]

Is it my TV or does Buscemi look green on closeups? almost close to a Gollum type face

 

[Raider Nation]

Also, I don't think Buscemi has gotten enough credit for his work in this here in this thread. It's not an easy role he's playing - he's the central figure, yet almost bland in comparison with the cast of characters around him most of the time. Despite that, he plays the intensity of what's going on perfectly without going over the top.

I'll say that I thought Buscemi's acting in the first season was generally pretty bad, contrived, and ham handed. Really didn't think he was good at all, but I enjoyed the story and other characters, and so I rolled with it.But this season? Especially the last few episodes? He's a whole different actor, and totally and completely fantastic.

Same as Day 1. He's always excellent. He just has meatier material this season.

 

[jdoggydogg]

That shovel scene was repulsive. And now the Irishman is dead? What's the one thing a show with few sympathetic characters should never do? Kill off one of the few remaining good characters.

no clue why they keep killing off the few likable characters. Guess Richard harrow is next

They're all involved in a dangerous business. People die. Would you rather they pulled punches and kept characters alive with completely inexplicable logic? (looking at you, Sons of Anarchy)

You say "realism" I say the show has very little new ideas other than killing people.

Been following what's been going on in Mexico over the last two decades?

Yes. I've also read a lot about the Holocaust. What does that have to do with this show jumping the shark?

Seriously? You were more into Jimmy's wife's art or what?

To me, Jimmy was the core of this show's greatness. And they have not recovered from his exit.

 

[Gr00vus]

Also, I don't think Buscemi has gotten enough credit for his work in this here in this thread. It's not an easy role he's playing - he's the central figure, yet almost bland in comparison with the cast of characters around him most of the time. Despite that, he plays the intensity of what's going on perfectly without going over the top.

I'll say that I thought Buscemi's acting in the first season was generally pretty bad, contrived, and ham handed. Really didn't think he was good at all, but I enjoyed the story and other characters, and so I rolled with it.But this season? Especially the last few episodes? He's a whole different actor, and totally and completely fantastic.

Same as Day 1. He's always excellent. He just has meatier material this season.

The character has gone through a ton since the first season.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

That shovel scene was repulsive. And now the Irishman is dead? What's the one thing a show with few sympathetic characters should never do? Kill off one of the few remaining good characters.

no clue why they keep killing off the few likable characters. Guess Richard harrow is next

They're all involved in a dangerous business. People die. Would you rather they pulled punches and kept characters alive with completely inexplicable logic? (looking at you, Sons of Anarchy)

You say "realism" I say the show has very little new ideas other than killing people.

Been following what's been going on in Mexico over the last two decades?

Yes. I've also read a lot about the Holocaust. What does that have to do with this show jumping the shark?

Seriously? You were more into Jimmy's wife's art or what?

To me, Jimmy was the core of this show's greatness. And they have not recovered from his exit.

So you're butthurt about Jimmy.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

That shovel scene was repulsive. And now the Irishman is dead? What's the one thing a show with few sympathetic characters should never do? Kill off one of the few remaining good characters.

no clue why they keep killing off the few likable characters. Guess Richard harrow is next

They're all involved in a dangerous business. People die. Would you rather they pulled punches and kept characters alive with completely inexplicable logic? (looking at you, Sons of Anarchy)

You say "realism" I say the show has very little new ideas other than killing people.

Been following what's been going on in Mexico over the last two decades?

Yes. I've also read a lot about the Holocaust. What does that have to do with this show jumping the shark?

Seriously? You were more into Jimmy's wife's art or what?

To me, Jimmy was the core of this show's greatness. And they have not recovered from his exit.

So you're butthurt about Jimmy.

Maybe Nucky could've let him off with a stern talking-to?

 

[Gr00vus]

Can anyone translate what Eddie was rambling about in German (I think it was German anyway)? Was that just another few verses of "If" in another language or something else?

 

[Carver]

That shovel scene was repulsive.

And now the Irishman is dead? What's the one thing a show with few sympathetic characters should never do? Kill off one of the few remaining good characters.

no clue why they keep killing off the few likable characters. Guess Richard harrow is next

They're all involved in a dangerous business. People die. Would you rather they pulled punches and kept characters alive with completely inexplicable logic? (looking at you, Sons of Anarchy)

You say "realism" I say the show has very little new ideas other than killing people.

Been following what's been going on in Mexico over the last two decades?

Yes. I've also read a lot about the Holocaust. What does that have to do with this show jumping the shark?

Seriously? You were more into Jimmy's wife's art or what?

To me, having the nuts to kill Jimmy is the core of this show's greatness. And they have done an incredible job of recovering from his exit.

Fixed.

 

[Michael Brown]

That shovel scene was repulsive.

And now the Irishman is dead? What's the one thing a show with few sympathetic characters should never do? Kill off one of the few remaining good characters.

no clue why they keep killing off the few likable characters. Guess Richard harrow is next

They're all involved in a dangerous business. People die. Would you rather they pulled punches and kept characters alive with completely inexplicable logic? (looking at you, Sons of Anarchy)

You say "realism" I say the show has very little new ideas other than killing people.

Been following what's been going on in Mexico over the last two decades?

Yes. I've also read a lot about the Holocaust. What does that have to do with this show jumping the shark?

Seriously? You were more into Jimmy's wife's art or what?

To me, having the nuts to kill Jimmy is the core of this show's greatness. And they have done an incredible job of recovering from his exit.

Fixed.

Jimmy had to go, and there are more than enough awesome characters both real and fictional to keep the show strong. Between Val Alden, Harrow, Chalky, Rothstein, Capone...I mean jeez what more could you want?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Can anyone translate what Eddie was rambling about in German (I think it was German anyway)? Was that just another few verses of "If" in another language or something else?

Didn't he translate for us in a lucid moment during the episode?

 

[Gr00vus]

Can anyone translate what Eddie was rambling about in German (I think it was German anyway)? Was that just another few verses of "If" in another language or something else?

Didn't he translate for us in a lucid moment during the episode?

He was reciting lines from the poem "If" by Rudyard Kipling, he made it through the 1st 4 lines in English. I have no idea if that's also what he was saying in whatever other language he was speaking.

 

[jdoggydogg]

That shovel scene was repulsive. And now the Irishman is dead? What's the one thing a show with few sympathetic characters should never do? Kill off one of the few remaining good characters.

no clue why they keep killing off the few likable characters. Guess Richard harrow is next

They're all involved in a dangerous business. People die. Would you rather they pulled punches and kept characters alive with completely inexplicable logic? (looking at you, Sons of Anarchy)

You say "realism" I say the show has very little new ideas other than killing people.

Been following what's been going on in Mexico over the last two decades?

Yes. I've also read a lot about the Holocaust. What does that have to do with this show jumping the shark?

Seriously? You were more into Jimmy's wife's art or what?

To me, Jimmy was the core of this show's greatness. And they have not recovered from his exit.

So you're butthurt about Jimmy.

Feelings have nothing to do with this. The show hasn't been as good since Jimmy left.

 

[jdoggydogg]

That shovel scene was repulsive. And now the Irishman is dead? What's the one thing a show with few sympathetic characters should never do? Kill off one of the few remaining good characters.

no clue why they keep killing off the few likable characters. Guess Richard harrow is next

They're all involved in a dangerous business. People die. Would you rather they pulled punches and kept characters alive with completely inexplicable logic? (looking at you, Sons of Anarchy)

You say "realism" I say the show has very little new ideas other than killing people.

Been following what's been going on in Mexico over the last two decades?

Yes. I've also read a lot about the Holocaust. What does that have to do with this show jumping the shark?

Seriously? You were more into Jimmy's wife's art or what?

To me, Jimmy was the core of this show's greatness. And they have not recovered from his exit.

So you're butthurt about Jimmy.

Maybe Nucky could've let him off with a stern talking-to?

So essentially, you'll defend every poor decision by chalking it up to "violence happens all the time and therefore is realistic."Here's a positive thing I'll say: look at Gyp's boss. We've only seen him talking, mostly, but he's easily as menacing as Gyp without all that cliche violence.

 

[Ilov80s]

That shovel scene was repulsive.

And now the Irishman is dead? What's the one thing a show with few sympathetic characters should never do? Kill off one of the few remaining good characters.

no clue why they keep killing off the few likable characters. Guess Richard harrow is next

They're all involved in a dangerous business. People die. Would you rather they pulled punches and kept characters alive with completely inexplicable logic? (looking at you, Sons of Anarchy)

You say "realism" I say the show has very little new ideas other than killing people.

Been following what's been going on in Mexico over the last two decades?

Yes. I've also read a lot about the Holocaust. What does that have to do with this show jumping the shark?

Seriously? You were more into Jimmy's wife's art or what?

To me, having the nuts to kill Jimmy is the core of this show's greatness. And they have done an incredible job of recovering from his exit.

Fixed.

Jimmy had to go, and there are more than enough awesome characters both real and fictional to keep the show strong. Between Val Alden, Harrow, Chalky, Rothstein, Capone...I mean jeez what more could you want?

Untill the most recent episodes, those great characters were either barely on the show or without any real interconnected storylines. Last episode was great because we finally are seeing these great characters' storylines converging. Can't wait for next Sunday! Who does Gyp? Capone? Nucky? Richard? Gillian?

 

[The Ref]

I haven't been in this thread in a while because I was a few episodes behind. I finally caught up this weekend and this AM.

Most of this season has been a



And Gyp is the worst character I can recall in a show I actually like.

Now with that being said, this last episode was the best of the season. I kept waiting for the writers to bring New York even closer to the AC story and they sort of did that, but bringing Chicago into the fold plus bringing the "other side AKA Chalky" into the forefront of the story might just save this show yet. As an added bonus they finally got Van Alden in front of Al.

Looking forward to a big finish next week.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I haven't been in this thread in a while because I was a few episodes behind. I finally caught up this weekend and this AM.Most of this season has been a And Gyp is the worst character I can recall in a show I actually like.Now with that being said, this last episode was the best of the season. I kept waiting for the writers to bring New York even closer to the AC story and they sort of did that, but bringing Chicago into the fold plus bringing the "other side AKA Chalky" into the forefront of the story might just save this show yet. As an added bonus they finally got Van Alden in front of Al. Looking forward to a big finish next week.

Yes to all of this. Gyp is a terrible, one-note-Johnny character. Contrast Gyp with his boss - a character that is very intimidating despite not having committed one act of on-screen violence.

 

[BigTex]

I haven't been in this thread in a while because I was a few episodes behind. I finally caught up this weekend and this AM.

Most of this season has been a



And Gyp is the worst character I can recall in a show I actually like.

Now with that being said, this last episode was the best of the season. I kept waiting for the writers to bring New York even closer to the AC story and they sort of did that, but bringing Chicago into the fold plus bringing the "other side AKA Chalky" into the forefront of the story might just save this show yet. As an added bonus they finally got Van Alden in front of Al.

Looking forward to a big finish next week.

Put me in that small group (very small) that love this character. He's a psycho comedic gangster with a gun and I can't wait to see him die!

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

Were this real life, Chalky would have absolutely given up Nucky. He always treated Chalky like crap, being dismissive and talking down to him.

I dont agree. I think if you look at the upside of what Chalky can get out of this it is going to be higher with Nucky than anyone else because they already have a relationship established. You think there is any way any of the other players would give him Babette's old spot? No way.