Max Power
Footballguy
I'm not lovin any pick where a guy is considered a "project". I'd much rather take Henne early 3rd if he is still there.
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Almas_4th_Child
Footballguy
He won't last til the 3rd.But with the bears last 3rd round pick...name a better QB available considering ryan, brohm, flacco, henne are gone.
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Max Power
Footballguy
I forget if it is Johnson or O'Connell that has been moving up the boards...It even pains me to say I'd rather have either Ainge or Booty over Woodson.
Max Power
Footballguy
Bears check out QB Ainge
The pro day circuit is just heating up with nearly a full month ahead of showcases at schools across the country.
The Bears sent scout Rex Hogan to Knoxville, Tenn., today for Tennessee’s workout. Volunteers quarterback Erik Ainge is in a large group of projected mid-round picks who the team could be considering with a second-day pick. But it’s impossible to look too far into the their potential interest in Ainge for the simple fact that Tennessee is a huge program. You don’t skip the pro day at a top-tier SEC school any year.
Ainge never matched the hype generated during his freshman season in 2004 (it only seems like he’s been there since Peyton Manning left) when he passed for 17 touchdowns vs. nine interceptions and averaged 7.33 yards per attempt. He was productive the past two seasons throwing for 6,511 yards and 50 touchdowns, including two in a New Year’s Day victory over Wisconsin in the Outback Bowl.
Ainge won 29 games over four seasons, and I remember something general manager Jerry Angelo said about Vince Young before he was drafted. He was asked about Young’s mechanics, how he projected as a passer on the pro level and if he could make the adjustment from a wide-open offense at Texas to a more traditional one on Sundays.
``He’s a winner,’’ Angelo said.
But for all the victories, Ainge never seemed to lift the Volunteers to that next level. He has good size at 6-5, 225 but can fall into ruts where he’s inaccurate. It’s easy to poke holes in the games of passers are projected to be mid-round selections on down but eventually there’s got to be another Tom Brady, right?
``I like him,’’ said one coach who was in attendance and confirmed Hogan’s appearance. ``He’s real natural for a big guy and he’s got a real natural motion. He’s feet are decent for being a big guy. The only thing is he doesn’t always throw a spiral. The ball doesn’t always come off his hand clean. There's something there to work with."
The pro day circuit is just heating up with nearly a full month ahead of showcases at schools across the country.
The Bears sent scout Rex Hogan to Knoxville, Tenn., today for Tennessee’s workout. Volunteers quarterback Erik Ainge is in a large group of projected mid-round picks who the team could be considering with a second-day pick. But it’s impossible to look too far into the their potential interest in Ainge for the simple fact that Tennessee is a huge program. You don’t skip the pro day at a top-tier SEC school any year.
Ainge never matched the hype generated during his freshman season in 2004 (it only seems like he’s been there since Peyton Manning left) when he passed for 17 touchdowns vs. nine interceptions and averaged 7.33 yards per attempt. He was productive the past two seasons throwing for 6,511 yards and 50 touchdowns, including two in a New Year’s Day victory over Wisconsin in the Outback Bowl.
Ainge won 29 games over four seasons, and I remember something general manager Jerry Angelo said about Vince Young before he was drafted. He was asked about Young’s mechanics, how he projected as a passer on the pro level and if he could make the adjustment from a wide-open offense at Texas to a more traditional one on Sundays.
``He’s a winner,’’ Angelo said.
But for all the victories, Ainge never seemed to lift the Volunteers to that next level. He has good size at 6-5, 225 but can fall into ruts where he’s inaccurate. It’s easy to poke holes in the games of passers are projected to be mid-round selections on down but eventually there’s got to be another Tom Brady, right?
``I like him,’’ said one coach who was in attendance and confirmed Hogan’s appearance. ``He’s real natural for a big guy and he’s got a real natural motion. He’s feet are decent for being a big guy. The only thing is he doesn’t always throw a spiral. The ball doesn’t always come off his hand clean. There's something there to work with."
Max Power
Footballguy
Rumor is that the Bears made an offer to Bryant Johnson today...
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=25#s=25&amp...2&t=2188121
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=25#s=25&amp...2&t=2188121
Max Power
Footballguy
I sure hope they do. Personally I think he has more talent than Ced. Those two would make a decent 1/2 punch and more importantly free up some flexabilty on Draft day...I'd be fine with a 2 mil base and big incentive clause. Bears still have 13 mil+ in cap space...I forget, is Kevin Jones...Thomas' Brother or cousin?
flapgreen
Footballguy
If they pick up Johson and KJ, that would go a long ways at putting my at ease. Believe it when I see it thoughETA: Where have you seen anything about picking up KJ?
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Milwaukees_best
Footballguy
The Bears just crack me up. They go wiht these 2nd rate WR year in and year out. Then they wonder why they have had 15 different starting QBs in the last 15 years or whatever teh # is. The Bears cant run because they have no real threats at WR. Johnson is a nice WR as a 3rd guy. He is not and will not be a #1. He was a reach from the day he was drafted.
Milwaukees_best
Footballguy
Wait I take it back maybe they signed Brandon Lloyd to be the #1.
RBM
Footballguy
joefootball
Footballguy
flapgreen,
How is that contributing to the Offical Bears Offseason thread. If you dont have anything informational dont bother wasting posts.
On a side note I really hope we sure up the O Line through the draft and take a RB to help Benson and the run game.
How is that contributing to the Offical Bears Offseason thread. If you dont have anything informational dont bother wasting posts.
On a side note I really hope we sure up the O Line through the draft and take a RB to help Benson and the run game.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Sure thing guy. I've been contributing to Bears threads here for years. I don't recognize who you are. Try again
hey guys, let's keep this focused on the Bears and not taking shots at other posters ... thanks.
twistd
Footballguy
It is pitiful, isn't it? The Bears think they have addressed the WR position. Lloyd and Booker are not bad signings, but please. The Bears receiving core was really bad last year. Now they lost their #1 and #2. They replace Moose with Booker, which is kind of a wash, but neither is all that good. Lloyd is worth a risk, but no one has any idea what they got with him. I didn't want them to overpay for Berrian, but I hoped they would use the money to find a more affordable replacement for Berrian. Bradley has shown almost nothing. It is silly to count on him for much. Hester might be a good slot receiver, but he isn't a #1 receiver. So the Bears have a solid slot receiver, a weak #2 in Booker, and a bunch of question marks. They aren't getting help in the draft. Even if they draft a WR they will have no impact this year. Rookie receivers almost never do much. So what I'm saying is that the Bears brain trust is delusional. We can basically count on next to nothing from the passing game this year.Now that the Bears have addressed the receiver position adequately by adding Booker and Lloyd, no need to draft a pass catcher ....
Jbearjimmy
Footballguy
I second that opinion. Bummable Bear fans should Relax. There's a lot of play left in this off-season, every team has a different process and the Bears are one of the best at what they do. Overall it's a top notch organization, in great city with professional team players. That's something we can all be proud of. With a little luck and extra effort *it will happen. Believe it.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Agreed. Losing
RBM
Footballguy
WTF?? "One of the best at what they do?" Where have you been the last 40 yrs?
3nOut
Footballguy
flapgreen,
I agree with joefootball. Just be quiet already. You have not contributed anything useful to this thread. You've done nothing but complain, and it isn't even constructive criticism. Its just the same thing over and over, just in different words. We know you don't like the ways the Bears handled the past 20 years of offseasons. We get it. We got it the first time you said it. Its just irritating hearing it from the same person again and again. It serves no purpose. It would be better for you to make some suggestions on what the Bears should do; which FAs they should get and why, who to draft and why, etc. That contributes more to a constructive conversation. I am providing a list of some of your posts in this thread. Its pretty long, but nothing is positive. I think maybe the 'green' in your name shows that you are really a GB fan. Or maybe you just like to complain. If thats the case, maybe you should become a Lions fan. You'd really be in heaven then.
I agree with joefootball. Just be quiet already. You have not contributed anything useful to this thread. You've done nothing but complain, and it isn't even constructive criticism. Its just the same thing over and over, just in different words. We know you don't like the ways the Bears handled the past 20 years of offseasons. We get it. We got it the first time you said it. Its just irritating hearing it from the same person again and again. It serves no purpose. It would be better for you to make some suggestions on what the Bears should do; which FAs they should get and why, who to draft and why, etc. That contributes more to a constructive conversation. I am providing a list of some of your posts in this thread. Its pretty long, but nothing is positive. I think maybe the 'green' in your name shows that you are really a GB fan. Or maybe you just like to complain. If thats the case, maybe you should become a Lions fan. You'd really be in heaven then.
BENSON WILL LEAD THE WAY!!!111
I wish. I've heard nothing about it.
Why do they always have to be so stupid?
They're always banking on things that never happen. What does this even mean? Can they not objectively look at their players and make a sound decision? He's been on the team 3 years and has a total of 38 CATCHES!!! Injured or not, it doesn't make a bit of difference. LOADED WITH POTENTIAL????? GIMME A BREAK YOU MORONS. Get some decent players in on offense for crying out loud. It can't be as hard as you make it look.
With the Bears history, these are one and the same to me.
Seeing Virginia on the field after the Bears NFC championship win was one the coolest things ever. I couldn't have been happier. That said, they've made horrible decision after horrible decision over the years. Some good ones too but mostly bad.
I'm just not as optimistic. There offense is a complete embarrassment. They're gonna need more than 2 or 3 players on that team to see a big difference, unless they were to bring in some huge names, and we both know that's not gonna happen.
I'm not saying they should get Brady Quinn but if they tried, it might help change my mind on how I feel about the team over the last few years. It's like they never ever try to get that big name that's out there. It's always saving the money to spread around other places. Yet, that has never worked. They spend it on garbage and end up back where they started every time. I know I'll get some crap for the Quinn suggestion and that's fine. What I'm saying is one of these days they're gonna have to step up and grab a big name FA, if they ever want a chance at having a good run over the long term. That's just how it works. Not sure why they don't see their mistakes and try and correct them. There's a reason they've been mostly at the bottom of the NFL for the past 20 years. Makes no sense
The Bears should do a lot of things that they never end up doing. Damn shame
Not a thing. I just can't seem to figure out how you could ever end up with your entire offense sucking this bad. How is that possible in this era of the NFL? WTF is all the money going?
Super Bowl or BUST BABY!!11
Missed out on Julius Jones but at least we got Lloyd.
Cedric Benson and Brandon Lloyd to the SUPER BOWL. WOOOOOOTT!!!!!!1111one
SA or Mo Mo anyone?
You can't help but laugh....or you'll go crazy
Is it 2015 yet?
You're an embarrassment to the league, Bears. Outside of a couple fluke good seasons, you've been the laughing stock of the NFL for the last 20 years.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
They have taken a step backwards at best at WR so far this year. Unless they get one heck of a rookie out of the draft, they are in trouble.
I do not understand all the talk about Booker being such a huge improvement over Moose because he is the same players just younger. I think it is more accurate to say, as you have, that it is a wash.
Sure, worth a risk for a team that has other wideouts to lean on if he busts as he most likely will.
I thought it was a decent move to let Berrian go and not over pay him but that was with the assumption that they would do something worth doing to bring someone in. I guess I was wrong.
I would re-word that to Bradley has shown almost nothing since he was injured. There has been nothing since to suggest that he will return to form of a promising young talent that we briefly saw a few years back.
Seriously, people are too excited (including the Bear's coaching staff) of what Hester could do if he could learn the position because of his success in the return game. I can not remember seeing him do anything other than a go route. I question his route running ability, he has below average hands, and no understanding of the finer points of a WR's game. He is good for a few plays a game to either stretch the D or offer a possible big play with his speed. That is about it. Any more reliance on him is just silly.
They have a lot of issues. Basically no real QB on roster and an OL that is aging and falling apart. Further, the D is missing two important pieces in order for it to be dominant as it has in the past few years. Look for the D to drop a few more notches down in the NFL and with an offense that never was good in further decline, look for more L's come next season.
Max Power
Footballguy
Addressing the Issue that Booker is better than Moose.
Booker 8 drops / caught 47% intended passes / 1 td / 11.1 ypc
Moose 5 drops / caught 49% intended passes / 3 td / 14.3 ypc
Booker hasn't played a 16 game season since 2002. Moose has missed one game as a Bear.
I think Booker brings more speed and the ability to break one, however moose was a solid RedZone WR and a Very good blocker.
If anything it is a wash. I can't believe some people see Booker as a big upgrade.
Booker 8 drops / caught 47% intended passes / 1 td / 11.1 ypc
Moose 5 drops / caught 49% intended passes / 3 td / 14.3 ypc
Booker hasn't played a 16 game season since 2002. Moose has missed one game as a Bear.
I think Booker brings more speed and the ability to break one, however moose was a solid RedZone WR and a Very good blocker.
If anything it is a wash. I can't believe some people see Booker as a big upgrade.
SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
This thread reminds me of a Debbie Downer skit.
"You know, feline AIDS is the number one killer of cats in America. Wah Waaaaaaaaaaaah"
"You know, feline AIDS is the number one killer of cats in America. Wah Waaaaaaaaaaaah"
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Neither. He'd just be another Jones that is better than Cedric. I definitely wouldn't invest but $1-$2 million guaranteed in Kevin Jones. Throw in incentives. Too many (healthy & cheaper) draft/FA RB's available than to settle for a guy that has averaged < 4 ypc and not broke 700 rushing yards the last 3 seasons.
DoubleG
Footballguy
I don't see Booker as a BIG upgrade, but he is 3 years younger, and as much as I can't believe I am saying this, the QB situation in Chicago is better than Miami *shudder*. While the Bears were 7-9, let's not forget the Dolphins won one game last year. Moose had a rather siginificant drop off in production and seemed to drop quite a few in crucial situations. I would say it's a slight upgrade,
twistd
Footballguy
I agree with almost all of what you have said. The Bears may draft a rookie receiver, but I doubt it will be earlier than the third round. So i would say expecting any third round draft pick to come in and have a significant impact immediately is unrealistic. Even first rounders usually take a few years to develop. Not to mention, the Bears don't seem very good at developing talent in young players, particularly at WR and QB. It is interesting to see receivers that go on and have success away from the Bears. Bobby Engram was a decent player with the Bears, but he has done really well with the Seahawks. I'd love to have him on the team. Justin Gage and Bobby Wade have both gone on to better things away from the Bears. Maybe the problem with the receivers isn't just they pick guys with potential who don't develop. Maybe the problem is that the Bears organization just is poor at developing talent.
flapgreen
Footballguy
You're right. Nothing negative should ever be said about the decisions the Bears make. They're good at what they do.And by all means, since you asked me to be quiet, I will. Funny thing is, I don't recall seeing you in Bears threads over the last few years either. I wonder why.flapgreen,
I agree with joefootball. Just be quiet already. You have not contributed anything useful to this thread. You've done nothing but complain, and it isn't even constructive criticism. Its just the same thing over and over, just in different words. We know you don't like the ways the Bears handled the past 20 years of offseasons. We get it. We got it the first time you said it. Its just irritating hearing it from the same person again and again. It serves no purpose. It would be better for you to make some suggestions on what the Bears should do; which FAs they should get and why, who to draft and why, etc. That contributes more to a constructive conversation. I am providing a list of some of your posts in this thread. Its pretty long, but nothing is positive. I think maybe the 'green' in your name shows that you are really a GB fan. Or maybe you just like to complain. If thats the case, maybe you should become a Lions fan. You'd really be in heaven then.
BENSON WILL LEAD THE WAY!!!111
I wish. I've heard nothing about it.
Why do they always have to be so stupid?
They're always banking on things that never happen. What does this even mean? Can they not objectively look at their players and make a sound decision? He's been on the team 3 years and has a total of 38 CATCHES!!! Injured or not, it doesn't make a bit of difference. LOADED WITH POTENTIAL????? GIMME A BREAK YOU MORONS. Get some decent players in on offense for crying out loud. It can't be as hard as you make it look.
With the Bears history, these are one and the same to me.
Seeing Virginia on the field after the Bears NFC championship win was one the coolest things ever. I couldn't have been happier. That said, they've made horrible decision after horrible decision over the years. Some good ones too but mostly bad.
I'm just not as optimistic. There offense is a complete embarrassment. They're gonna need more than 2 or 3 players on that team to see a big difference, unless they were to bring in some huge names, and we both know that's not gonna happen.
I'm not saying they should get Brady Quinn but if they tried, it might help change my mind on how I feel about the team over the last few years. It's like they never ever try to get that big name that's out there. It's always saving the money to spread around other places. Yet, that has never worked. They spend it on garbage and end up back where they started every time. I know I'll get some crap for the Quinn suggestion and that's fine. What I'm saying is one of these days they're gonna have to step up and grab a big name FA, if they ever want a chance at having a good run over the long term. That's just how it works. Not sure why they don't see their mistakes and try and correct them. There's a reason they've been mostly at the bottom of the NFL for the past 20 years. Makes no sense
The Bears should do a lot of things that they never end up doing. Damn shame
Not a thing. I just can't seem to figure out how you could ever end up with your entire offense sucking this bad. How is that possible in this era of the NFL? WTF is all the money going?
Super Bowl or BUST BABY!!11
Missed out on Julius Jones but at least we got Lloyd.
Cedric Benson and Brandon Lloyd to the SUPER BOWL. WOOOOOOTT!!!!!!1111one
SA or Mo Mo anyone?
You can't help but laugh....or you'll go crazy
Is it 2015 yet?
You're an embarrassment to the league, Bears. Outside of a couple fluke good seasons, you've been the laughing stock of the NFL for the last 20 years.
I've been discussing the Bears victories and defeats with other Bears fans on here for years.I speak the truth. If you don't like it, put me on ignore is all I can say.
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Chadstroma
Footballguy
Well, you have to have a QB for any WR to do anything worthwhile and really the Bears have not had a stable good QB to throw the ball in many, many, many, many moons. I remember seeing the number of starting QB's the Bears have had just during the arrival of Farve in GB- it was a joke. The sad thing is that the Bear's offense has only one bright spot: Tight Ends. QB is situ is horrible. OL is aging and declining. The WR is lacking talent, experience, and depth. Also, for those who have asserted that their moves have been because of their faith in Bradley and Hester... do you really think they are that confident in those guys when they make such a desperate signing in Lloyd? That is the biggest statement of all that they (rightfully so) are panicking about what they have in their WR corps and are grasping at straws now.
3nOut
Footballguy
He voiced his opinion once, you voice the same opinion repeatedly. He is wiritng an article, you're in a thread. The medium is different. And I never said I disagreed with you, noone did. You're not even saying anything different than others are. You just have to be more constructive when you complain. So just let us know, what should the bears have done diffently, within reason, rules and budget.
flapgreen
Footballguy
3nOut said:
The Bears have done absolutely nothing in the FA market. They're not trying to improve anywhere but through the draft. With a team with as many holes as the Bears, that won't work. The management is either stupid or has given up. Brandon Lloyd? Gimme a break. It's a joke.These are not all superstars but most are better than we've got.
A list of potentials they could've signed or attempted to sign:
WR’s
Donte' Stallworth
Ernest Wilford
DJ Hackett
Bryant Johnson
Guards
Alan Faneca
Rex Hadnot
Jake Scott
Jacob Bell
Justin Smiley
Safeties
Gibril Wilson
Madieu Williams
DT’s
Corey Williams
Chartric Darby
Calvin Pace
Spencer Johnson
RB’s
Michael Turner
Julius Jones
LB’s
Kawika Mitchell
Landon Johnson
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RBM
Footballguy
3nOut said:
These are not all superstars but most are better than we've got.
A list of potentials they could've signed or attempted to sign:
WR’s
Donte' Stallworth
Ernest Wilford
DJ Hackett
Bryant Johnson
Guards
Alan Faneca
Rex Hadnot
Jake Scott
Jacob Bell
Justin Smiley
Safeties
Gibril Wilson
Madieu Williams
DT’s
Corey Williams
Chartric Darby
Calvin Pace
Spencer Johnson
RB’s
Michael Turner
Julius Jones
LB’s
Kawika Mitchell
Landon Johnson
This offseason has been a complete disgrace.I would love to have been in on those meetings leading up to the free agency period.My biggest problem with the Bears is their failure to address the OL the last few years. I may be one of the few, but I still think Benson would be a decent player with a younger OL.3nOut said:
These are not all superstars but most are better than we've got.
A list of potentials they could've signed or attempted to sign:
WR’s
Donte' Stallworth
Ernest Wilford
DJ Hackett
Bryant Johnson
Guards
Alan Faneca
Rex Hadnot
Jake Scott
Jacob Bell
Justin Smiley
Safeties
Gibril Wilson
Madieu Williams
DT’s
Corey Williams
Chartric Darby
Calvin Pace
Spencer Johnson
RB’s
Michael Turner
Julius Jones
LB’s
Kawika Mitchell
Landon Johnson
joefootball
Footballguy
I am glad the bears didnt sign a RB in FA because of the depth in this years class. Faneca and his 20+ mil contract guaranteed is pretty high for a 31+ old lineman I am glad they didnt dump money like that in an older lineman. I do wish they would have went after some lesser OL if the price was right. As far as the WRs went the only two I would have interest in is Hackett and Bryant Johnson. Johnson was offered a contract but went with MArtz and Niners. I dont think this FA class was all that strong but I agree some activity would have been nice but there wasnt. I am not overly bummed about that because I dont really feel like we let a big playmaker go. THrough the draft I think we concentrate on OL and playmakers on offense and maybe a DT in there. Also I think the Bears might feel their money is better spent locking up Tommie Harris and Hester and for next years FA crop. Those are my 2 cents. Bears are cheap yes but this was a good year to be cheap I feel, you will see in a few years that some of these contracts given will be regreted.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I would agree with you completely if I was in a meeting with decision makers of the Bears. Since I am not, I really have no idea why there is a need to be 'constructive' in a thread on the web. There are no decision makers in this thread, I am not employed by the Bears nor are others writing here, and there is no value in being 'constructive' standing alone by itself. So why the need to be 'constructive'?3nOut said:
Jbearjimmy
Footballguy
How about constructive opinions, speculation, thought, ideas or maybe an inside tip. I read this thread because of the intelligence of the people who post. Flaming threads filled with anger and emotion towards the Bears or other posters is childish and turn people off. A flame is just a flame it shares nothing except that someone is upset. There should be another thread for that stuff; we don't need it here. It seems more like a disadvantage that the Vikings locked up 7million in cap for an only above average receiver in Berrian. He's not fast, he even admitted he runs about a 4.6; he lets up on routes and doesn't fight for the ball, there were more than a few interceptions that seemed like he could have broken up. The Bears set a respectable price, stuck to it and Berrian chose another offer. So in this example of "inaction" in my mind the the Bears win out. They didn't overpay and a division opponent is locked into an expensive elite contract for sub-elite talent. I wonder if Berrian is even a good fit with Jackson at quarterback. In this situation it seems to me the Bears didn't lose and potentially benefited.
With the signing of Llyod I nearly choked, but then when you think about the numbers, it's a good deal. If the Bears pick up a good receiver through trading or the draft and Lloyd doesn't pan out then he'll probably get cut and Bears lose next to nothing while digging and testing for hidden potential.
Max Power
Footballguy
The Problem with Bears is that they have Neglected to draft Offense in recent years. When they have drafted on O side of the ball, the picks stunk. Now I am supposed to have confidence in JA being able to pick the talent out of a class that no one can seperate?
ALL GMs operate with the theory that if they get a solid group of 10 or so players and lock down that group, the team will be competative year in and year out with players coming and going.
Chicago wants to do this, but lumped all the players on one side of the ball. Keeping Briggs might have been a mistake.
What good is it having a top 3 Defense, when you have a bottom 3 Offense?
ALL GMs operate with the theory that if they get a solid group of 10 or so players and lock down that group, the team will be competative year in and year out with players coming and going.
Chicago wants to do this, but lumped all the players on one side of the ball. Keeping Briggs might have been a mistake.
What good is it having a top 3 Defense, when you have a bottom 3 Offense?
Chadstroma
Footballguy
A post that only says "Bears suck" is moronic and childish. You simply ignore them. On the other hand, there is no reason why someone can not post on here with "these are problems that the Bears have 1) No QB. 2) Aging and declining OL. 3) No WR's that are worthwhile or at least you can place confidence in. 4) Major holes at DT and SS. 5) No activity so far in FA to address any of these." Why should they HAVE to post "this is what I would have done" because of some BS being "constructive" whining? If a post is intelligent, insightful, or informative in any way it ought not matter if it is negative or positive unless you are such a thin skinned homer that you can not bear (no pun intended) anything bad said of your team.
3nOut
Footballguy
I agree, but its not having to just ignore one post, its having to ignore twenty.
flapgreen
Footballguy
PUT ME ON YOUR IGNORE LIST ALREADY. Now that I've listed an entire list of free agents we could've gotten, you're still whining about my earlier comments.
ETA: btw, where's all your break down of the Bears offseason? 
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3nOut
Footballguy
flapgreen said:PUT ME ON YOUR IGNORE LIST ALREADY. Now that I've listed an entire list of free agents we could've gotten, you're still whining about my earlier comments.3nOut said:
I never said my break down is anything sepcial, but just in this thread...http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=7850727http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=8028706
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=8294010
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=8306800
Why are you being so sensitive? Let it go. You can dish out criticism but can't take it? I wasn;t even the one who initially told you that you weren't being constructive. I just supportd joefootball. But whatever. And I don't ignore anyone. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then.
That said, how many of those FAs you listed were really worth going after? Were they worth the price they were asking? Some yes, some no. Am I dissappointed we didn't get Faneca and Bryant? Sure. Am I disappointed in the offseason? Yea, mostly. So you can say I agree with you. It's not what you're saying, it's the way you go about saying it.
I'm done. Peace.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Why am I being so sensitive?flapgreen said:PUT ME ON YOUR IGNORE LIST ALREADY. Now that I've listed an entire list of free agents we could've gotten, you're still whining about my earlier comments.3nOut said:
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=8028706
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=8294010
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=8306800
Why are you being so sensitive? Let it go. You can dish out criticism but can't take it? I wasn;t even the one who initially told you that you weren't being constructive. I just supportd joefootball. But whatever. And I don't ignore anyone. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then.
That said, how many of those FAs you listed were really worth going after? Were they worth the price they were asking? Some yes, some no. Am I dissappointed we didn't get Faneca and Bryant? Sure. Am I disappointed in the offseason? Yea, mostly. So you can say I agree with you. It's not what you're saying, it's the way you go about saying it.
I'm done. Peace.
OMG! You took the time to go through the entire thread just to find negative comments I made. And then looked up your on comments. For what? Because you didn't like the way I was saying things? WHO CARES? Sorry I don't say things the way you see fit for a football messageboard. If you don't prefer the way I say things, ignore me. It's as simple as that. Also, I commented to others who responded to my rant also. You're just the only one who went out of your way to try and make it look like I only complain, yet I haven't even seen you in many Bears threads since this board was started. That's call making assumptions. You have no idea what I've said about the Bears . Just this thread. Stop while you're behind.
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This is really getting frustrating. The Bears have resigned two of the QBs who played poorly last year. So they are hoping someone plays better than they did last year. They may draft a QB, but that provides no help for this year.The offensive line was offensive last year. They got rid of Fred Miller and I believe one of the starting guards. But they have brought in no one to replace either player. They may get help here in the draft. No one on the bench played well enough to unseat any of the starters, yet we seem to think miraculously the line will be better.The running game was horrible last year. Yet we have chosen to stick with the players that couldn't get it done at all last year. Benson is a complete and total waste of a draft pick, but we are going into another season with him as the starter. They may draft a RB and get help there.The Bears were one of the worst receiving cores in the league last year. They lost the #1 and #2 receivers, and chose to replace just Muhammed. I guess they hope that Hester will grow in to a #1, or Bradley will stay healthy. No help coming for this group in the draft. So they are hoping that one of these receivers who hasn't produced will step up. They could have improved the receivers, without breaking the bank, by signing Bryant Johnson or Hackett. They didn't even make an effort. What it looks like to me is that a bad offensive team has gotten worse. The defense, if they can stay healthy, could be one of the top units in the league. But the offense will almost certainly be one of the bottom teams. I think we are in for a long season. I'm about ready to show Angelo to the door.And now the offseason looks even worse...Hackett gets a 2yr $3.5M Deal, yet we sign booker with a "hometown discount" for the same price
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