RBM
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Max Power
Footballguy
This Jake Long signing was a slight kick in the pants today. Not suprised by it. The Rumors had been swirling for days. I was hoping he might be the guy to fall a bit (KC at 5). I can't help to think that Claddy is smiling right now. Probably not much chance he is there at 14 now considering he is the best OT prospect on the board.
sholditch
Footballguy
Loved him at Georgia, and he showed enough in relief work last year to where he should at least get a shot in our uber-crappy corps.
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
Hi guys -
Long time no speak.
The Bears from what I hear, as usual, are not looking to spend much more money. I have to say that Jerry Angelo does what he can with what he is allotted, but there is no green light to go get free agents this year, as most years. The new stadium is helping pull in more revenue, just the way the McCaskey's like it. No reason to change things up.
I don't know, but i suspect you will see most of the same characters out on the field as the McCaskey's want their money's worth out of ced (Can't lose money and cut him) and ownership will push to have other characters see the field that they have paid money to (whether they deserve it or not). Expect to see Bradley, Wolfe and that special guy on special teams see more action on offense. Why? Because its all about the bottom line on this team.
Some things make me sick about the Bears. I'll always love the team. But they haven't had an owner that wasn't dysfunctional .... well, ever.
Lets just hope they don't trade down.
Personally, I would like them to trade up to get MacP. I think he is the best running back (including AP) to come out in a long long time. And i have seen film on him extensively.
Go Bears -
Long time no speak.
The Bears from what I hear, as usual, are not looking to spend much more money. I have to say that Jerry Angelo does what he can with what he is allotted, but there is no green light to go get free agents this year, as most years. The new stadium is helping pull in more revenue, just the way the McCaskey's like it. No reason to change things up.
I don't know, but i suspect you will see most of the same characters out on the field as the McCaskey's want their money's worth out of ced (Can't lose money and cut him) and ownership will push to have other characters see the field that they have paid money to (whether they deserve it or not). Expect to see Bradley, Wolfe and that special guy on special teams see more action on offense. Why? Because its all about the bottom line on this team.
Some things make me sick about the Bears. I'll always love the team. But they haven't had an owner that wasn't dysfunctional .... well, ever.
Lets just hope they don't trade down.
Personally, I would like them to trade up to get MacP. I think he is the best running back (including AP) to come out in a long long time. And i have seen film on him extensively.
Go Bears -
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I think that they are going to look at the draft and see what they get. The Bears normally like to go D with the higher picks because they feel that it is easier to get a good scouting report that is accurate on D players. They do need to do something with DT and S but the offense is just a screaming, glaring need in every position other than maybe TE. They may not look at RB in the first round and hope that something solid falls to them in the 2nd round and if not then keep looking at each round for a RB that offers value at that spot but not push anything and if they end up with no one they will take a look at Alexander, Jones, etc. Musa Smith was interesting that was brought up. Also, the Raiders will likely be looking for a trade to get rid of LaMont Jordan and prob will not ask for too much for him- maybe the Bears bite?
Max Power
Footballguy
Lovie and JA talk Draft...
General manager Jerry Angelo
How many Pro Bowl players do you see in this draft, and what positions are deepest in your opinion?
I would say that some positions, as in every draft, are going to be stronger than others. I think there's been a lot said about the tackle position in particular. The defensive line position, particularly defensive ends. The corner position. Those are probably, and along with running backs at least in the top tier, where you'll see your special players. To come up with a number, probably 10 I would say you might consider special players in this draft.
There might be some trading up more so because there are players with the perception of being special in this draft. In normal years, you wouldn't see maybe that many, and people wouldn't be talking about trading up in the first round. There's a little more of that going on, at least from what I'm hearing.
You've said that you want more competition in the backfield this season. Assuming you take a running back fairly early this weekend, what does that say for the prospects of Cedric Benson, Adrian Peterson, and Garrett Wolfe?
Well, it's just going to be more competition. Until somebody proves that they're the guy, then we have to make sure we create as much competition at that position to make sure that we get that done.
I don't know for sure what's going to transpire on the weekend. I have got a pretty good idea, but we want to create competition in all the positions that we feel that we didn't necessary get the production that we needed. In part, that's how we determine our needs and, obviously, our philosophy going into free agency. And because we didn't do much in free agency, in turn it puts us more into a draft mode as we're going through this weekend.
Head coach Lovie Smith
What have you learned about evaluating skill-position players like running backs during your time in the league?
It's hard to do. It's hard evaluating all of the positions. You never know for sure. You have to go on what you've seen, but a lot comes into play with it. I mean that's pretty much what it is. Each year, you never know.
Every once in a while, there's a great player that comes around like Adrian Peterson. But he wasn't the first player in the draft. He had as much impact as probably any player in last year's draft, but he wasn't the best player in the draft. That's why to try to figure out exactly who the best player in the draft is is pretty hard. What you learn is that you just go. You do your research. You look at as much video as you can. You talk to as many people as you can. You work the players out and then go from there.
It's assumed that you will select a lot of players on offense because that's where most of your needs are. But is it hard for a defensive coach like yourself to resist taking defensive players?
I think you need to be careful about what everybody says we're going to do and what we're going to actually do. Our philosophy is we look at the best available. Sometimes need positions will move up a little bit more, but I never think you pass a great player. Period. Who's to say that we're not looking at some defensive players?
If you look at our history, history can tell you a little bit. We've had defensive players in just about every draft we've had here. So who's to say that this year will be different?
General manager Jerry Angelo
How many Pro Bowl players do you see in this draft, and what positions are deepest in your opinion?
I would say that some positions, as in every draft, are going to be stronger than others. I think there's been a lot said about the tackle position in particular. The defensive line position, particularly defensive ends. The corner position. Those are probably, and along with running backs at least in the top tier, where you'll see your special players. To come up with a number, probably 10 I would say you might consider special players in this draft.
There might be some trading up more so because there are players with the perception of being special in this draft. In normal years, you wouldn't see maybe that many, and people wouldn't be talking about trading up in the first round. There's a little more of that going on, at least from what I'm hearing.
You've said that you want more competition in the backfield this season. Assuming you take a running back fairly early this weekend, what does that say for the prospects of Cedric Benson, Adrian Peterson, and Garrett Wolfe?
Well, it's just going to be more competition. Until somebody proves that they're the guy, then we have to make sure we create as much competition at that position to make sure that we get that done.
I don't know for sure what's going to transpire on the weekend. I have got a pretty good idea, but we want to create competition in all the positions that we feel that we didn't necessary get the production that we needed. In part, that's how we determine our needs and, obviously, our philosophy going into free agency. And because we didn't do much in free agency, in turn it puts us more into a draft mode as we're going through this weekend.
Head coach Lovie Smith
What have you learned about evaluating skill-position players like running backs during your time in the league?
It's hard to do. It's hard evaluating all of the positions. You never know for sure. You have to go on what you've seen, but a lot comes into play with it. I mean that's pretty much what it is. Each year, you never know.
Every once in a while, there's a great player that comes around like Adrian Peterson. But he wasn't the first player in the draft. He had as much impact as probably any player in last year's draft, but he wasn't the best player in the draft. That's why to try to figure out exactly who the best player in the draft is is pretty hard. What you learn is that you just go. You do your research. You look at as much video as you can. You talk to as many people as you can. You work the players out and then go from there.
It's assumed that you will select a lot of players on offense because that's where most of your needs are. But is it hard for a defensive coach like yourself to resist taking defensive players?
I think you need to be careful about what everybody says we're going to do and what we're going to actually do. Our philosophy is we look at the best available. Sometimes need positions will move up a little bit more, but I never think you pass a great player. Period. Who's to say that we're not looking at some defensive players?
If you look at our history, history can tell you a little bit. We've had defensive players in just about every draft we've had here. So who's to say that this year will be different?
flapgreen
Footballguy
OMG!Bryan Cox, Thomas Smith, Phillip Daniels, John Tait, Blake Brockermeyer, Tom Carter, Edgar Bennett, Ricardo McDonald, Vinson Smith, Ruben Brown, Fred Miller, Ted Washington, Keith Traylor, Eddie Kennison, Ricky Manning Jr, and Kordell Stewart.These are all of the bigger time FA's that the Bears have brought in(that I could think of) in the modern salary cap era. How many of them panned out the way they were suppost to? Very few.They've been a losing franchise for the last 20 years,yet, they never seem to change things. While everyone else is using the FA market, what are they doing? Not a damn thing. Just the same old garbage with resigning their on players and drafting the rest. HEY BEARS! IT'S A DIFFERENT ERA NOW. IF YOU WANT TO COMPETE, YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME EVERYONE IS PLAYING, NOT THE SAME OLD SONG YOU'VE BEEN SINGING SINCE FA BEGAN. GIVE IT UP ALREADY OR DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY AND COMPETE. I'm obviously very pissed off about the team's predicament and how the organization is sitting on their damn hands as usual. Do something different. This approach hasn't worked in 20 years you baffoons.
Seriously? Thanks for proving his point. THOSE are the bigger FA's the Bears have brought in? hmm...I wonder why they didn't pan out. What a pile of garbage! Just another way the Bears tried to save money and it ended up costing them more in the end, anyway. However, for some reason, the Bears won't admit to their mistakes and try to change things.And even if those were big time FA's, which they weren't, what does that have to do with picking up FA's now? So, are you saying they should just quit trying for big FA's altogether since some mediocre ones in the past didn't pan out? I'm :shuked:
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RexGrossman Fan
Footballguy
No reason to pick up either of these guys. The Bears will be just fine resigning their current players and drafting the rest.
I don't get the impression that the Bears are cheap. They are just rebuilding. Would you have rather continued to see Muhammed and Fred Miller, and isn't that a contradiction of your belief that the Bears are only interested in getting their money's worth out of the players under contract versus developing them ? I'll be more concerned if they don't get a couple of these guys (Harris and Hester in particular) signed to extensions before the season.I am actually in favor of moving down because, as I mentioned, this is a rebuilding offense. I want as many picks in the first 3-4 rounds as possible.
Let's wait until the draft is complete before we get upset about them not signing Alexander. I'd like to see competition brought in as well, but, as this point, would prefer to find a player in Round 2 or 3.No reason to pick up either of these guys. The Bears will be just fine resigning their current players and drafting the rest.
I expect their top two picks (Round 1 and 2) to almost guaranteed to be offensive players, probably a OT and a RB. From Round 3 on, it could be anything, though I expect a QB to be on of those Round 3 picks (or even Round 2 should one drop into their laps there).I think they wait until the 2nd round (maybe 1st 3rd round pick) to add a RB because it is so deep of a position in this year's draft. As much as I would love to get one of the top 2 or 3 on the board in Round 1, adding a lineman is still my number one priority.I can't see the Bears having much interest in LaMont Jordan. I think they'd much rather take a shot at a younger player.
There's no way Clady goes past Denver or Carolina.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
I don't think going out every offseason and spending the most money is the best way to run a team. Did I wish the Bears would've brought in a younger OG this offseason...yes...but not fanaca and Turner and Bryant Johnson.Bryan Cox was big time, Brockermeyer was up there as well. Thomas smith was like 25 mil, so was phillip daniels.OMG!Bryan Cox, Thomas Smith, Phillip Daniels, John Tait, Blake Brockermeyer, Tom Carter, Edgar Bennett, Ricardo McDonald, Vinson Smith, Ruben Brown, Fred Miller, Ted Washington, Keith Traylor, Eddie Kennison, Ricky Manning Jr, and Kordell Stewart.These are all of the bigger time FA's that the Bears have brought in(that I could think of) in the modern salary cap era. How many of them panned out the way they were suppost to? Very few.They've been a losing franchise for the last 20 years,yet, they never seem to change things. While everyone else is using the FA market, what are they doing? Not a damn thing. Just the same old garbage with resigning their on players and drafting the rest. HEY BEARS! IT'S A DIFFERENT ERA NOW. IF YOU WANT TO COMPETE, YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME EVERYONE IS PLAYING, NOT THE SAME OLD SONG YOU'VE BEEN SINGING SINCE FA BEGAN. GIVE IT UP ALREADY OR DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY AND COMPETE. I'm obviously very pissed off about the team's predicament and how the organization is sitting on their damn hands as usual. Do something different. This approach hasn't worked in 20 years you baffoons.Seriously? Thanks for proving his point. THOSE are the bigger FA's the Bears have brought in? hmm...I wonder why they didn't pan out. What a pile of garbage! Just another way the Bears tried to save money and it ended up costing them more in the end, anyway. However, for some reason, the Bears won't admit to their mistakes and try to change things.And even if those were big time FA's, which they weren't, what does that have to do with picking up FA's now? So, are you saying they should just quit trying for big FA's altogether since some mediocre ones in the past didn't pan out? I'm :shuked:
twistd
Footballguy
In addition to what you have to give up to move up to get Ryan, you also have to pay him considerably more money than say Flacco or Henne. If you jump up to five to get Ryan you have to pay him top five money. You may be able to get either Flacco, Henne, or Brohm with your second round pick. It doesn't make sense. Angelo has never done a good job of evaluating offensive talent, particularly QBs. It would make me very nervous if the Bears give up picks to move up, and pay top five money, to pick a player Angelo has decided is their QB of the future. I don't like that at all.I do not see picking Ryan a bad thing by itself but traded up to get him is just moronic. There will be options in the 2nd to go QB and get about the same value as Ryan. There is no reason to make this move if you are the Bears. There entire offense is in need for new players with the exception of TE, why would you give up picks to move up for a QB that is not head and shoulders better than what you can get in the 2nd? Makes no sense.
:X Oh please God no. Ryan is going to be nothing special and you can get the same player in Flacco or Brohm a round later. Please God, no. The only player the Bears should consider trading up for is Jake Long. Miami wants out of the first, we've got cap room to sign the no. 1 and picks in the third to compensate. GOD, IF YOU ARE OUT THERE, PLEASE DO NOT LET THE BEARS DRAFT RYAN.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
No disagreements here. I was not saying that I thought the Bears would go after LaMont but just saying that it is a possibility as there are many directions to go to bring in another RB to take workload off of Benson that I do not think they NEED to go RB in the first 2 rounds at all. They really can just see how the board unfolds and take the best offensive player available and be better off for it. If that means a RB ok... but if it does not then they have options to bring in veterans and not sink the ship.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
For Bears fans... I do not think you have to worry. I really do not think the Bears are that dumb to trade up to get Ryan. I would be more worried if the source was in Chicago being that this is...In addition to what you have to give up to move up to get Ryan, you also have to pay him considerably more money than say Flacco or Henne. If you jump up to five to get Ryan you have to pay him top five money. You may be able to get either Flacco, Henne, or Brohm with your second round pick. It doesn't make sense. Angelo has never done a good job of evaluating offensive talent, particularly QBs. It would make me very nervous if the Bears give up picks to move up, and pay top five money, to pick a player Angelo has decided is their QB of the future. I don't like that at all.I do not see picking Ryan a bad thing by itself but traded up to get him is just moronic. There will be options in the 2nd to go QB and get about the same value as Ryan. There is no reason to make this move if you are the Bears. There entire offense is in need for new players with the exception of TE, why would you give up picks to move up for a QB that is not head and shoulders better than what you can get in the 2nd? Makes no sense.
:X Oh please God no. Ryan is going to be nothing special and you can get the same player in Flacco or Brohm a round later. Please God, no. The only player the Bears should consider trading up for is Jake Long. Miami wants out of the first, we've got cap room to sign the no. 1 and picks in the third to compensate. GOD, IF YOU ARE OUT THERE, PLEASE DO NOT LET THE BEARS DRAFT RYAN.
I have a feeling this was more of homer hoping and reaching that the 'Phins would get some huge trade for that #1 overall.
RexGrossman Fan
Footballguy
j/k about the Alexander part. Would love to have KJ for cheap thoughLet's wait until the draft is complete before we get upset about them not signing Alexander. I'd like to see competition brought in as well, but, as this point, would prefer to find a player in Round 2 or 3.No reason to pick up either of these guys. The Bears will be just fine resigning their current players and drafting the rest.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Likewise. I don't think trading down makes them cheap.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Where did I say anything about spending the most money every offseason? Not sure where you're getting that from. You're embellishing what I said. Surely, you realize there's an area between these 2 extremes. Make a play at one of the big names for once, Bears. FA after FA going to teams and having great success, while the Bears refuse to make a play at any of these guys. Not being able to figure out why they've been losing all these yearsbtw, not one of the guys you mentioned was a big FA signing, in my opinionI don't think going out every offseason and spending the most money is the best way to run a team. Did I wish the Bears would've brought in a younger OG this offseason...yes...but not fanaca and Turner and Bryant Johnson.Bryan Cox was big time, Brockermeyer was up there as well. Thomas smith was like 25 mil, so was phillip daniels.OMG!Bryan Cox, Thomas Smith, Phillip Daniels, John Tait, Blake Brockermeyer, Tom Carter, Edgar Bennett, Ricardo McDonald, Vinson Smith, Ruben Brown, Fred Miller, Ted Washington, Keith Traylor, Eddie Kennison, Ricky Manning Jr, and Kordell Stewart.These are all of the bigger time FA's that the Bears have brought in(that I could think of) in the modern salary cap era. How many of them panned out the way they were suppost to? Very few.They've been a losing franchise for the last 20 years,yet, they never seem to change things. While everyone else is using the FA market, what are they doing? Not a damn thing. Just the same old garbage with resigning their on players and drafting the rest. HEY BEARS! IT'S A DIFFERENT ERA NOW. IF YOU WANT TO COMPETE, YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME EVERYONE IS PLAYING, NOT THE SAME OLD SONG YOU'VE BEEN SINGING SINCE FA BEGAN. GIVE IT UP ALREADY OR DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY AND COMPETE. I'm obviously very pissed off about the team's predicament and how the organization is sitting on their damn hands as usual. Do something different. This approach hasn't worked in 20 years you baffoons.Seriously? Thanks for proving his point. THOSE are the bigger FA's the Bears have brought in? hmm...I wonder why they didn't pan out. What a pile of garbage! Just another way the Bears tried to save money and it ended up costing them more in the end, anyway. However, for some reason, the Bears won't admit to their mistakes and try to change things.And even if those were big time FA's, which they weren't, what does that have to do with picking up FA's now? So, are you saying they should just quit trying for big FA's altogether since some mediocre ones in the past didn't pan out? I'm :shuked:
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
I never mentioned your name....Mr Sensitive.But I do agree that they should go somewhere inbetween.Where did I say anything about spending the most money every offseason? Not sure where you're getting that from. You're embellishing what I said. Surely, you realize there's an area between these 2 extremes. Make a play at one of the big names for once, Bears. FA after FA going to teams and having great success, while the Bears refuse to make a play at any of these guys. Not being able to figure out why they've been losing all these yearsbtw, not one of the guys you mentioned was a big FA signing, in my opinionI don't think going out every offseason and spending the most money is the best way to run a team. Did I wish the Bears would've brought in a younger OG this offseason...yes...but not fanaca and Turner and Bryant Johnson.Bryan Cox was big time, Brockermeyer was up there as well. Thomas smith was like 25 mil, so was phillip daniels.OMG!Bryan Cox, Thomas Smith, Phillip Daniels, John Tait, Blake Brockermeyer, Tom Carter, Edgar Bennett, Ricardo McDonald, Vinson Smith, Ruben Brown, Fred Miller, Ted Washington, Keith Traylor, Eddie Kennison, Ricky Manning Jr, and Kordell Stewart.These are all of the bigger time FA's that the Bears have brought in(that I could think of) in the modern salary cap era. How many of them panned out the way they were suppost to? Very few.They've been a losing franchise for the last 20 years,yet, they never seem to change things. While everyone else is using the FA market, what are they doing? Not a damn thing. Just the same old garbage with resigning their on players and drafting the rest. HEY BEARS! IT'S A DIFFERENT ERA NOW. IF YOU WANT TO COMPETE, YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME EVERYONE IS PLAYING, NOT THE SAME OLD SONG YOU'VE BEEN SINGING SINCE FA BEGAN. GIVE IT UP ALREADY OR DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY AND COMPETE. I'm obviously very pissed off about the team's predicament and how the organization is sitting on their damn hands as usual. Do something different. This approach hasn't worked in 20 years you baffoons.Seriously? Thanks for proving his point. THOSE are the bigger FA's the Bears have brought in? hmm...I wonder why they didn't pan out. What a pile of garbage! Just another way the Bears tried to save money and it ended up costing them more in the end, anyway. However, for some reason, the Bears won't admit to their mistakes and try to change things.And even if those were big time FA's, which they weren't, what does that have to do with picking up FA's now? So, are you saying they should just quit trying for big FA's altogether since some mediocre ones in the past didn't pan out? I'm :shuked:
ditka85
Footballguy
Where did you get this information from? How is it "easier" to get a good scouting report on defensive talent?
flapgreen
Footballguy
Since you responded to me, I thought it was directed at me. Not being sensitive though. It's often difficult to convey your tone through written words. This is simply debating opposing stances on the Bears. I'm with you that FA signings should be somewhere in the middle, but the Bears are almost always at the cheap end. It's really hurt them over the course of many years, in my opinion, and I'm getting fed up with it. I'm sick of my team sucking for most of my life. DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. It's common sense. If things haven't been working with one approach, you shouldn't keep doing the same things and expect a different outcome.I never mentioned your name....Mr Sensitive.But I do agree that they should go somewhere inbetween.Where did I say anything about spending the most money every offseason? Not sure where you're getting that from. You're embellishing what I said. Surely, you realize there's an area between these 2 extremes. Make a play at one of the big names for once, Bears. FA after FA going to teams and having great success, while the Bears refuse to make a play at any of these guys. Not being able to figure out why they've been losing all these yearsbtw, not one of the guys you mentioned was a big FA signing, in my opinionI don't think going out every offseason and spending the most money is the best way to run a team. Did I wish the Bears would've brought in a younger OG this offseason...yes...but not fanaca and Turner and Bryant Johnson.Bryan Cox was big time, Brockermeyer was up there as well. Thomas smith was like 25 mil, so was phillip daniels.OMG!Bryan Cox, Thomas Smith, Phillip Daniels, John Tait, Blake Brockermeyer, Tom Carter, Edgar Bennett, Ricardo McDonald, Vinson Smith, Ruben Brown, Fred Miller, Ted Washington, Keith Traylor, Eddie Kennison, Ricky Manning Jr, and Kordell Stewart.These are all of the bigger time FA's that the Bears have brought in(that I could think of) in the modern salary cap era. How many of them panned out the way they were suppost to? Very few.They've been a losing franchise for the last 20 years,yet, they never seem to change things. While everyone else is using the FA market, what are they doing? Not a damn thing. Just the same old garbage with resigning their on players and drafting the rest. HEY BEARS! IT'S A DIFFERENT ERA NOW. IF YOU WANT TO COMPETE, YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME EVERYONE IS PLAYING, NOT THE SAME OLD SONG YOU'VE BEEN SINGING SINCE FA BEGAN. GIVE IT UP ALREADY OR DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY AND COMPETE. I'm obviously very pissed off about the team's predicament and how the organization is sitting on their damn hands as usual. Do something different. This approach hasn't worked in 20 years you baffoons.
Seriously? Thanks for proving his point. THOSE are the bigger FA's the Bears have brought in? hmm...I wonder why they didn't pan out. What a pile of garbage! Just another way the Bears tried to save money and it ended up costing them more in the end, anyway. However, for some reason, the Bears won't admit to their mistakes and try to change things.And even if those were big time FA's, which they weren't, what does that have to do with picking up FA's now? So, are you saying they should just quit trying for big FA's altogether since some mediocre ones in the past didn't pan out? I'm :shuked:
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
How about the Chad Henne rumors to Chicago? The Bears trade down in the first to take him.
have you guys heard this as well...I saw it on ESPN earlier.
have you guys heard this as well...I saw it on ESPN earlier.
Rounders
Footballguy
Yeah it was briefly talked about on page 8 I believe. With all of the Bears needs I can't see them taking a QB in round 1, trade down or not.Personally I think that all the talk coming out of Halas hall about players right now is meant to drive up the price for the good old patented move of Mr.Angelo - "The Trade Down". I think that he's trying to create some intereste in his pick in hopes that he can trade down (again) and pick up some more picks.
RBM
Footballguy
twistd
Footballguy
Anyone else getting tired of all these players whining about their contracts? The Bears sucked last year. I am not optimistic about this year. But yet we have players whining about their contracts. Hester and Harris deserve contracts, but just get it done. And if they hamstring themselves because they have no cap room left after signing their own free agents it will not be good. This is a team with very little talent on offense.
Dusty Rhodes
Footballguy
This is almost as fun as watching the Dem. fight between Hillary and ObamaWhy am I being so sensitive?PUT ME ON YOUR IGNORE LIST ALREADY. Now that I've listed an entire list of free agents we could've gotten, you're still whining about my earlier comments.I never said my break down is anything sepcial, but just in this thread...http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=7850727
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=8028706
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=8294010
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=8306800
Why are you being so sensitive? Let it go. You can dish out criticism but can't take it? I wasn;t even the one who initially told you that you weren't being constructive. I just supportd joefootball. But whatever. And I don't ignore anyone. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then.
That said, how many of those FAs you listed were really worth going after? Were they worth the price they were asking? Some yes, some no. Am I dissappointed we didn't get Faneca and Bryant? Sure. Am I disappointed in the offseason? Yea, mostly. So you can say I agree with you. It's not what you're saying, it's the way you go about saying it.
I'm done. Peace.
That said, I (And I doubt he cares about this) but I side with flapgreen here. He's a proud fan and he's disgusted. He's vocal about it, nothing wrong with that.He's been here a long time and has always been a strong supporter of duh bearssss. I respect that, and I respect the fact that he will speak out against them as well. Just as I do with the Packers.
Just my
-X-
Footballguy
Yeah... Just checked and we never had the lead in the second game vs. Detroit.
We need to get a SS so when Mike Brown has his season-ending fluke injury, we'll be covered. Josh Barrett would fit the bill but he'll be taken too early. I was thinking Chris Horton (UCLA) in the fifth might be suitable.
We need to get a SS so when Mike Brown has his season-ending fluke injury, we'll be covered. Josh Barrett would fit the bill but he'll be taken too early. I was thinking Chris Horton (UCLA) in the fifth might be suitable.
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