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***Official CLEVELAND INDIANS Thread*** (1 Viewer)

caught some kinston indians games recently. the ball comes off beau mills' bat like a rocket.

that niuman romero guy looks pretty good too.

 
:football: ETA: Sabathia hit one too, so he's still one ahead of Marte on the season.

 
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Cleveland Indians southpaw Lee named All-Star starter

Posted by Paul Hoynes, Plain Dealer Reporter July 14, 2008 10:56AM

NEW YORK -- Indians left-hander Cliff Lee was picked today by manager Terry Francona to be the American League's starting pitcher in Tuesday night's All-Star game at Yankee Stadium.

Righthander Ben Sheets of Milwaukee was announced as the starter for the National League.

Lee, selected for his first All-Star game, went 12-2 with a 2.31 ERA in the first half for the Indians.

Last year Lee ended the season in the bullpen after spending a month at Class AAA Buffalo. He didn't even make the Tribe's postseason roster for the playoffs.

Lee was almost traded to Arizona in the off-season. In spring training, he had to compete for the last spot in the rotation with Aaron Laffey and Jeremy Sowers.

This year he's the first Tribe pitcher to start an All-Star game since Charles Nagy in 1996. Nagy was picked by Mike Hargrove, who guided the Indians to the World Series in 1995.

Lee has 106 strikeouts and 20 walks in 124 2/3 innings. The opposition is hitting .234 against him.

Indians centerfielder Grady Sizemore will participate in the Home Run hitting contest tonight at Yankee Stadium as part of the All-Star festivities. Sizemore leads the American League with 23 homers.
:popcorn: :pics:
 
What could have been...

CF - Grady Sizemore .273, 23 HRs, 54 RBIsSS - Carlos Guillen .284, 8 HRs, 47 RBIs (Trade vetoed b/c Omar Vizquel failed a physical)C - Victor Martinez .278, 0 HRs, 21 RBIs (On IR)DH - Travis Hafner .217, 4 HRs, 22 RBIs (On IR :unsure: )RF - Milton Bradley .316, 19 HRs, 57 RBIs (Traded for Franklin Gutierrez and Andrew Brown)2B - Brandon Phillips .280, 15 HRs, 58 RBIs (Traded for Jeff Stevens :popcorn: )1B - Ryan Garko .241, 7 HRs, 45 RBIs ( :unsure: )LF - Ryan Ludwick .289, 21 HRs, 65 RBIs (left via FA)3B - Kevin Kouzmanoff .274, 12 HRs, 39 RBIs (Traded for Josh Barfield; wouldn't have happened if Phillips had stayed)BenchCasey Blake .282, 9 HRs, 52 RBIsJhonny Peralta .261, 16 HRs, 48 RBIsBen Francisco .294, 8 HRs, 35 RBIs
:cry: :cry: :cry:
 
Tribe fans, any thoughts as to how likely it is that Eric Wedge continues to be the skipper beyond this year? The guy seems to be one of the best, young managers in the game -- does their performance this year warrant a break with him at the helm?
I'd put the probability of Wedge being fired as 80 - yes, 20 - no. There would be an uproar here if this team loses 100 games and he is retained, and rightfully so. He has way too much say on the type of player he wants in the clubhouse (otherwise Milton Bradley and Brandon Phillips, among others, may still be on the team - think they could use them right now?), his in-game managing is suspect at best, his players seem to play with the same fire he shows (which is none) when they're losing, and he recklessly over used his players in last year's title run. I posted it preseason and was blasted accordingly, Carmona and VMart were over used last year and it caught up to them (CC's still going strong though). Betancourt never seemed to get a day off last year, his body didn't know what to do when it no longer was required to pitch, he hasn't been the same all year. Granted it's not Wedge's fault most of the lineup over achieved last year and under achieved this year but he made some very short sighted decisions and is paying the price now.Shapiro deserves some of the blame - no action in the offseason, thinking Joe Bo could go another season, ponying up for Hafner when breakdown was imminent (see, Baseball Prospectus article from 07) - but Wedge had some say in a lot of those moves too. As a Tigers fan I'd love to see Wedge in the dugout again in 09, but I don't think that will be the case.
Got a link for that? I would be interested in reading it.
 
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wadegarrett said:
What could have been...

CF - Grady Sizemore .273, 23 HRs, 54 RBIsSS - Carlos Guillen .284, 8 HRs, 47 RBIs (Trade vetoed b/c Omar Vizquel failed a physical)C - Victor Martinez .278, 0 HRs, 21 RBIs (On IR)DH - Travis Hafner .217, 4 HRs, 22 RBIs (On IR :thumbup: )RF - Milton Bradley .316, 19 HRs, 57 RBIs (Traded for Franklin Gutierrez and Andrew Brown)2B - Brandon Phillips .280, 15 HRs, 58 RBIs (Traded for Jeff Stevens :thumbup: )1B - Ryan Garko .241, 7 HRs, 45 RBIs ( :unsure: )LF - Ryan Ludwick .289, 21 HRs, 65 RBIs (left via FA)3B - Kevin Kouzmanoff .274, 12 HRs, 39 RBIs (Traded for Josh Barfield; wouldn't have happened if Phillips had stayed)BenchCasey Blake .282, 9 HRs, 52 RBIsJhonny Peralta .261, 16 HRs, 48 RBIsBen Francisco .294, 8 HRs, 35 RBIs
:cry: :cry: :cry:
Nice.....Phillips is the only move that really bothers me today because he got such a raw deal from Wedge. Not even just trading him, I don't think that was "wrong" as it had to be done, it was how they got to that point that really pisses me off.One could poke some holes....For instance, do you really think Blake was ever destined for a bench job? The only way you could sell me on that is if Wedge was gone. I still think even if we kept Phillips, KK would have been traded for something else (maybe even Barfield still).Also, if Guillen has (physical) issues playing SS for Detroit, I don't think that would be much different here. Garko would either be bumped from 1B or Guillen would have been moved by now, they've always liked Peralta (much like Blake). Ludwick, let's see him continue this new "trend". I'll stop here for now.
 
wadegarrett said:
What could have been...

CF - Grady Sizemore .273, 23 HRs, 54 RBIs

SS - Carlos Guillen .284, 8 HRs, 47 RBIs (Trade vetoed b/c Omar Vizquel failed a physical)

C - Victor Martinez .278, 0 HRs, 21 RBIs (On IR)

DH - Travis Hafner .217, 4 HRs, 22 RBIs (On IR :unsure: )

RF - Milton Bradley .316, 19 HRs, 57 RBIs (Traded for Franklin Gutierrez and Andrew Brown)

2B - Brandon Phillips .280, 15 HRs, 58 RBIs (Traded for Jeff Stevens :lmao: )

1B - Ryan Garko .241, 7 HRs, 45 RBIs ( :unsure: )

LF - Ryan Ludwick .289, 21 HRs, 65 RBIs (left via FA)

3B - Kevin Kouzmanoff .274, 12 HRs, 39 RBIs (Traded for Josh Barfield; wouldn't have happened if Phillips had stayed)

Bench

Casey Blake .282, 9 HRs, 52 RBIs

Jhonny Peralta .261, 16 HRs, 48 RBIs

Ben Francisco .294, 8 HRs, 35 RBIs
:cry: :cry: :cry:
Nice.....Phillips is the only move that really bothers me today because he got such a raw deal from Wedge. Not even just trading him, I don't think that was "wrong" as it had to be done, it was how they got to that point that really pisses me off.One could poke some holes....

For instance, do you really think Blake was ever destined for a bench job? The only way you could sell me on that is if Wedge was gone. I still think even if we kept Phillips, KK would have been traded for something else (maybe even Barfield still).

Also, if Guillen has (physical) issues playing SS for Detroit, I don't think that would be much different here. Garko would either be bumped from 1B or Guillen would have been moved by now, they've always liked Peralta (much like Blake).

Ludwick, let's see him continue this new "trend". I'll stop here for now.
Could definitley poke holes in it. Just throwing it out as a 'what if' scenario.
 
Tribe fans, any thoughts as to how likely it is that Eric Wedge continues to be the skipper beyond this year? The guy seems to be one of the best, young managers in the game -- does their performance this year warrant a break with him at the helm?
I'd put the probability of Wedge being fired as 80 - yes, 20 - no. There would be an uproar here if this team loses 100 games and he is retained, and rightfully so. He has way too much say on the type of player he wants in the clubhouse (otherwise Milton Bradley and Brandon Phillips, among others, may still be on the team - think they could use them right now?), his in-game managing is suspect at best, his players seem to play with the same fire he shows (which is none) when they're losing, and he recklessly over used his players in last year's title run. I posted it preseason and was blasted accordingly, Carmona and VMart were over used last year and it caught up to them (CC's still going strong though). Betancourt never seemed to get a day off last year, his body didn't know what to do when it no longer was required to pitch, he hasn't been the same all year. Granted it's not Wedge's fault most of the lineup over achieved last year and under achieved this year but he made some very short sighted decisions and is paying the price now.Shapiro deserves some of the blame - no action in the offseason, thinking Joe Bo could go another season, ponying up for Hafner when breakdown was imminent (see, Baseball Prospectus article from 07) - but Wedge had some say in a lot of those moves too. As a Tigers fan I'd love to see Wedge in the dugout again in 09, but I don't think that will be the case.
Got a link for that? I would be interested in reading it.
No - I believe it's 'paid' info so I couldn't post it anyway - but I can give you a brief summary, BP compared Hafner's body type, age, and game to that of Carlos Delgado's and predicted a similar quick fall from grace, filled with injuries and poor power production.I had actually forgotten about that article until I heard a caller on the local radio show a few weeks ago reference it, BP hit the nail on the head.

 
Why don't we just sign Bonds for peanuts and see if he draws extra fans in over the next two months? If Dolan would do this, and come out and say every ticket sold from this point forward (with some way to track it for fans) will go towards big name players via FA or trade, who could argue with it? It's not like we're in the race and he has a clubhouse to ruin.

edit: just read the yanks/bonds thread now. but i've been thinking about scenario above, oh well.

 
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What could have been...

CF - Grady Sizemore .273, 23 HRs, 54 RBIsSS - Carlos Guillen .284, 8 HRs, 47 RBIs (Trade vetoed b/c Omar Vizquel failed a physical)C - Victor Martinez .278, 0 HRs, 21 RBIs (On IR)DH - Travis Hafner .217, 4 HRs, 22 RBIs (On IR :unsure: )RF - Milton Bradley .316, 19 HRs, 57 RBIs (Traded for Franklin Gutierrez and Andrew Brown)2B - Brandon Phillips .280, 15 HRs, 58 RBIs (Traded for Jeff Stevens :thumbup: )1B - Ryan Garko .241, 7 HRs, 45 RBIs ( :unsure: )LF - Ryan Ludwick .289, 21 HRs, 65 RBIs (left via FA)3B - Kevin Kouzmanoff .274, 12 HRs, 39 RBIs (Traded for Josh Barfield; wouldn't have happened if Phillips had stayed)BenchCasey Blake .282, 9 HRs, 52 RBIsJhonny Peralta .261, 16 HRs, 48 RBIsBen Francisco .294, 8 HRs, 35 RBIs
:cry: :cry: :cry:
You'd cry 10 times that if you realize that you could pick any decade and play this. I try not to lest my head explode so I'll do this instead: :wall:
 
It's not too early to get this started...

Cliff for Cy!!!

It's pretty much the only thing we have to hang our hat on... :lmao:

 
Blake's gone. :lol:

Also picked up Reyes from the Cards: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8382506...-from-Cardinals

Any analysis on the guys we picked up?
From the e-mail the Tribe sent me:
The Indians picked up promising catcher prospect Carlos Santana and Triple-A pitcher Jon Meloan from the Dodgers on Saturday in exchange for veteran third baseman Casey Blake. Santana, 22, is a slugging switch-hitting catching prospect who currently has 14 homers, 96 RBI and a .323 average at Class A Inland Empire. Meloan, 24, pitched briefly for the Dodgers last year in a September call-up. He is 5-10 with a 4.97 ERA at Triple-A Las Vegas. He was ranked as the organization’s No. 8 prospect by Baseball America entering this season.
Carlos SantanaJosh Meloan

 
Meloan:

Team League W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB SO GO/AO AVG LVG PCL 5 10 4.97 21 20 0 0 0 105.0 119 72 58 7 60 99 0.90 .289 Minors 5 10 4.97 21 20 0 0 0 105.0 119 72 58 7 60 99 0.90 .289 Last 10 Games: (Current team only) Date OPP W L ERA SV IP H ER BB SO Jun 02 @POR 1 0 1.59 0 5.2 1 1 5 7 Jun 09 POR 0 0 0.00 0 1.0 2 0 1 1 Jun 13 @SLC 0 0 4.50 0 4.0 5 2 4 2 Jun 18 TAC 0 1 6.00 0 6.0 7 4 1 4 Jun 23 @TUC 0 1 6.35 0 5.2 8 4 4 4 Jun 29 @FRE 0 1 9.00 0 6.0 10 6 1 8 Jul 04 @CSP 0 0 7.71 0 4.2 7 4 6 7 Jul 09 TUC 0 1 12.46 0 4.1 9 6 1 6 Jul 14 TAC 1 0 3.86 0 7.0 8 3 1 4 Jul 20 @SAC 0 1 1.50 0 6.0 4 1 4 7 Totals 2 5 5.54 0 50.1 61 31 28 50Santana:

Code:
Team League AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS INL CAL .323 99 350 88 113 34 4 14 96 197 69 59 7 4 .431 .563 .993 Minors  .323 99 350 88 113 34 4 14 96 197 69 59 7 4 .431 .563 .993 Last 10 Games: (Current team only) Date OPP AVG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS Jul 14 @LNC .500 4 1 2 0 0 0 1 0 1 2 0 Jul 16 @LAK .000 4 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 Jul 17 @LAK .333 3 2 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 Jul 18 @LAK .000 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 Jul 19 STO .200 5 0 1 1 0 0 3 0 2 0 0 Jul 20 STO .500 4 2 2 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 Jul 21 STO .400 5 2 2 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 Jul 22 @HDM .500 2 1 1 1 0 0 1 3 0 0 0 Jul 23 @HDM .500 4 2 2 0 0 0 2 1 0 0 0 Jul 24 @HDM .667 3 3 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 Totals  .333 39 13 13 5 0 0 9 8 9 2 0
 
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Blake's gone. ;)

Also picked up Reyes from the Cards: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8382506...-from-Cardinals

Any analysis on the guys we picked up?
From the e-mail the Tribe sent me:
The Indians picked up promising catcher prospect Carlos Santana and Triple-A pitcher Jon Meloan from the Dodgers on Saturday in exchange for veteran third baseman Casey Blake. Santana, 22, is a slugging switch-hitting catching prospect who currently has 14 homers, 96 RBI and a .323 average at Class A Inland Empire. Meloan, 24, pitched briefly for the Dodgers last year in a September call-up. He is 5-10 with a 4.97 ERA at Triple-A Las Vegas. He was ranked as the organization’s No. 8 prospect by Baseball America entering this season.
Carlos SantanaJosh Meloan
What an absolute coup by Mark Shapiro. Indians add 7 young players for three, two of which wouldn't have been back anyway. Props to Shapiro for making it happen. Some consolation for this cluster#### of a season.
 
Blake's gone. :unsure:

Also picked up Reyes from the Cards: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8382506...-from-Cardinals

Any analysis on the guys we picked up?
From the e-mail the Tribe sent me:
The Indians picked up promising catcher prospect Carlos Santana and Triple-A pitcher Jon Meloan from the Dodgers on Saturday in exchange for veteran third baseman Casey Blake. Santana, 22, is a slugging switch-hitting catching prospect who currently has 14 homers, 96 RBI and a .323 average at Class A Inland Empire. Meloan, 24, pitched briefly for the Dodgers last year in a September call-up. He is 5-10 with a 4.97 ERA at Triple-A Las Vegas. He was ranked as the organization’s No. 8 prospect by Baseball America entering this season.
Carlos SantanaJosh Meloan
What an absolute coup by Mark Shapiro. Indians add 7 young players for three, two of which wouldn't have been back anyway. Props to Shapiro for making it happen. Some consolation for this cluster#### of a season.
Yep...We needed a young catcher and this kid has some great attributes (see throwing %, K/BB ratio, some pop) even if it's just at High A.

Meloan will be worked exclusively from the bullpen, another area of need, which I believe is where he looked best for the Dodgers. They tried to convert him, unsuccessfullyl.

Getting Reyes is interesting. Maybe we can work some magic with him. But you gotta wonder, if Duncan/LaRussa can't get it out of him, who can? Still, if the rift is legit, then that would be good news for the Tribe. Definitely a medium risk (only because Perdomo was starting to get on people's radar) yet high reward type move.

 
IIRC, the reason for Meloan's bad-looking stats is that he pitches in (essentially) the minor league equivalent of Coors Field.

Though, Blake may be back (maybe, possibly). I'd heard he likes it in Cleveland and he could be affordable. Still, I'm not getting my hopes up.

 
IIRC, the reason for Meloan's bad-looking stats is that he pitches in (essentially) the minor league equivalent of Coors Field.Though, Blake may be back (maybe, possibly). I'd heard he likes it in Cleveland and he could be affordable. Still, I'm not getting my hopes up.
Meloan does pitch in a bad park, but also take into account this is the first year he's been a starting pitcher. Don't ask me why the Dodgers decided to convert him, as he's been nothing but filthy as a reliever in his minor league career. If anything, I think LA hurt Meloan's trade value by trying to convert him this year. As a Dodger fan, I'm not thrilled with this deal. Third base was an area of need right now as neither La Roche or De Witt were hitting at all, but I think they gave up a lot for a half-season rental, considering the team as it is now comprised won't get out of the first round (again) if they even manage to win the West. I think the Indians got a good deal.
 
IIRC, the reason for Meloan's bad-looking stats is that he pitches in (essentially) the minor league equivalent of Coors Field.Though, Blake may be back (maybe, possibly). I'd heard he likes it in Cleveland and he could be affordable. Still, I'm not getting my hopes up.
Meloan does pitch in a bad park, but also take into account this is the first year he's been a starting pitcher. Don't ask me why the Dodgers decided to convert him, as he's been nothing but filthy as a reliever in his minor league career. If anything, I think LA hurt Meloan's trade value by trying to convert him this year. As a Dodger fan, I'm not thrilled with this deal. Third base was an area of need right now as neither La Roche or De Witt were hitting at all, but I think they gave up a lot for a half-season rental, considering the team as it is now comprised won't get out of the first round (again) if they even manage to win the West. I think the Indians got a good deal.
Tom, is he affordable at the $6MM he's making now? Would you ink him to that for 2-3 years (I doubt he signs a one year deal somewhere)?Comet, thanks for sharing...good stuff. :wall:
 
Couldn't have asked for a better time for Byrd to pitch an absolute gem. Hopefully, a team will come calling and Shapiro can grab a couple more prospects. :D

 
Tom, is he affordable at the $6MM he's making now? Would you ink him to that for 2-3 years (I doubt he signs a one year deal somewhere)?
I would and do it before he could call his wife for her thoughts. If Marte ends up crapping out for the rest of 2008, you could plug Blake back in there until the next guy comes along. Even at his worst, he's still a better option than Delucci who is the absolute suck -- and we're on the hook for him for 2009 as well! :shrug:
 
wadegarrett said:
Couldn't have asked for a better time for Byrd to pitch an absolute gem. Hopefully, a team will come calling and Shapiro can grab a couple more prospects. :confused:
I'd rather he stay for my own selfish reasons. I love the high socks/stirrups and the occasional double pump windup. :shrug: The thing that works against trading him is IIRC, one of his options is that he's considering retirement. He could play, he could retire; I don't think he knows yet. That may play into what Shapiro can/will do with him.
 
Tom, is he affordable at the $6MM he's making now? Would you ink him to that for 2-3 years (I doubt he signs a one year deal somewhere)?
I would and do it before he could call his wife for her thoughts. If Marte ends up crapping out for the rest of 2008, you could plug Blake back in there until the next guy comes along. Even at his worst, he's still a better option than Delucci who is the absolute suck -- and we're on the hook for him for 2009 as well! :goodposting:
I have a feeling we're just going to eat Dellucci's contract next year. That means we'd roll with Ben/Grady/Gut/Choo and either sign another OF or give Crowe a shot. But sometimes I make too much sense.
 
Tom, is he affordable at the $6MM he's making now? Would you ink him to that for 2-3 years (I doubt he signs a one year deal somewhere)?
I would and do it before he could call his wife for her thoughts. If Marte ends up crapping out for the rest of 2008, you could plug Blake back in there until the next guy comes along. Even at his worst, he's still a better option than Delucci who is the absolute suck -- and we're on the hook for him for 2009 as well! :thumbup:
I have a feeling we're just going to eat Dellucci's contract next year. That means we'd roll with Ben/Grady/Gut/Choo and either sign another OF or give Crowe a shot. But sometimes I make too much sense.
Let's pass the sporks and the chipotle sauce and get to it...and give me a double portion.
 
So, what do they do with Victor Martinez when he gets back?

Kelly Shoppach since V Mart went down 6/11 through his 4th AB today is batting .300 with 8 HR and 24 RBI and 22 Runs scored.

Guessing his OBP is somewhere around .370 and his slugging % is somewhere between .675 and .700 after today.

 
So, what do they do with Victor Martinez when he gets back?Kelly Shoppach since V Mart went down 6/11 through his 4th AB today is batting .300 with 8 HR and 24 RBI and 22 Runs scored.Guessing his OBP is somewhere around .370 and his slugging % is somewhere between .675 and .700 after today.
He goes back behind the plate with the occasional "day off" at first or DH and Sal Fasano goes back to bumping around the minors. Garko's the regular 1B.
 
No word on Byrd...yet

With 70 minutes to go before the non-waiver Trade Deadline, there are no indications that Indians right-hander Paul Byrd is going anywhere -- yet.

Because he is making $7.5 million this season and is sporting a 4.93 ERA, Byrd is certainly a candidate to pass through waivers and get dealt to a contender in August. But his recent improvement -- three straight quality starts -- the veteran presence he brings to a clubhouse and his past playoff success all might make him attractive to a team like the Rockies or Dodgers in the season's final months.

Byrd is slated to start for the Tribe on Friday in Minnesota. Consider it an audition.

-- Anthony Castrovince
 
Trade winners/losers not always what they are at first blush

As baseball's general managers rush to fulfill their trade deadline agendas by 4 p.m. ET on Thursday, we can count on one time-honored sports journalism tradition Friday: Analysts for newspapers and Internet sites will lump the "winners" in one category and the "losers" in the other.

But as recent history shows, knee-jerk assessments can be a risky proposition. Sometimes it takes until the end of the season or longer to determine how deals really shook out.

In this week's edition of Starting 9, we look at nine deadline trades over the past decade that are perceived differently in hindsight than in the immediate aftermath. Today's winner can be tomorrow's loser -- and vice versa. All it takes is a little time for the smoke to clear.

1. Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew from Cleveland to Montreal for Lee Stevens and minor leaguers Grady Sizemore, Cliff Lee and Brandon Phillips -- June 27, 2002

The headline: "Minaya works some magic" (Montreal Gazette)

With the Expos 6½ games behind Atlanta in the National League East and a contraction guillotine reportedly hanging over the team's head, general manager Omar Minaya raids the farm system to acquire Colon, who is 10-4 with a 2.55 ERA in Cleveland.

In the pre-blogging days, when Baseball America is the only outlet monitoring every breath that prospects take, Minaya is widely praised for his coup. Montreal columnist Jack Todd refers to him as "brilliant" and says he has "utterly changed the way the Expos do business" since coming over from the Mets.

Cleveland GM Mark Shapiro resides in a different place -- at the wrong end of talk-radio hell. While Indians fans go on a universal rant, Colon's teammates are crushed by his departure. Several Cleveland veterans speculate that they might be the next to go.

"This has leveled all of us," reliever Paul Shuey tells the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

The postscript: Even though Colon won 10 games in Montreal after the trade to give him 20 for the season, the Expos faded down the stretch and finished 19 games out in the NL East. Colon won a Cy Young Award with the Angels in 2005, but health and weight issues have put a damper on his career.

Cleveland, meanwhile, hit the jackpot with the trade. Sizemore is a two-time All-Star and a Gold Glove Award winner at 25, and Lee is 68-38 in six seasons with the Indians. The only downer is that the Indians bailed too early on Phillips and gave him away to Cincinnati in 2006.
 
Did anyone see the Betancourt/Longoria matchup last night? That was downright awful....although I did get a nice chuckle out of it.

 
Did anyone see the Betancourt/Longoria matchup last night? That was downright awful....although I did get a nice chuckle out of it.
You did have to remind me of that, didn't you? :confused: :thumbup: :lmao: Or, as Tom Hamilton said this afternoon, Longoria hit three homers in one at bat.
 
And Garko better start running out foul balls. From the sound of it, Wedge was about ready to kill Garko for not running out that dribbler in the 2nd.

After Hamilton & Hegan talk about how Wedge doesn't want it to be about him and how he doesn't like to jerk players from the game, Marte goes in for Garko.

HEY WEDGE!! IF THE TEAM IS LOSING, IT IS ABOUT YOU, PAL!!! :confused:

 
And Garko better start running out foul balls. From the sound of it, Wedge was about ready to kill Garko for not running out that dribbler in the 2nd. After Hamilton & Hegan talk about how Wedge doesn't want it to be about him and how he doesn't like to jerk players from the game, Marte goes in for Garko.HEY WEDGE!! IF THE TEAM IS LOSING, IT IS ABOUT YOU, PAL!!! :moneybag:
Let Garko get in the doghouse. V Mart goes to first when he comes back and the catcher with the most HRs, 2nd most RBIs, the highest SLG% and OPS in baseball since mid June stays behind the plate.
 
I guess Mujica isn't the answer at closer eitheroof
Sarcasm? I hope? Mujica has been awful, why Wedge put him in there with a 3 run lead in the 9th is way over my head. Yea, the alternatives aren't good either but Mujica has been just horrible.
 

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