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Sinorice Moss official 40 - 4.38
Just a tick faster than Maurice Drew.
Just a tick faster than Maurice Drew.
Drunkenmiller was strong too.Anyone see Cutler put up 23 reps on the bench press? QBs don't normally lift and he goes and puts up a number like that. Sick.
Cutler is really helping himself. I like him better than a similar player like Boller.I dont disagree about the quality of Lundy's results this weekend, but I am still down on him based on what i saw all week at the shrine game (before Lundy got hurt) - He was very tentative making cuts and bursting through the hole.Looking at the RB stats, it looks like Addai is helping himself, but a guy I keep seeing among the leaders in every drill is Wali Lundy. He was a very productive back his first couple of years in college before problems with HC Al Groh, fumble-itis, and injuries led to a less than stellar finish. He has great power and burst for a 215 lb back, but the knock on him was that he was a 4.6 type of guy who lacked the extra gear needed to gain the corner on sweeps and get past the second level between the tackles. Looks like that was a load of crap, though, as he turned in a 4.45 40 and was at or near the top in all the agility drills.
This guy is an enigma. looks like he has all the physical tools and was on his way early in his career towards becoming a top back, but has really fallen off. I wonder where he goes in this draft - I imagine his measurables are going to push him up from where he was a couple of weeks ago, but is he any better than a 5th rounder at this point? Seems to me that late in the draft, he could be a diamond in the rough - if someone can teach him to better utilize his skills, he has the size and speed to be a feature back in the NFL.I dont disagree about the quality of Lundy's results this weekend, but I am still down on him based on what i saw all week at the shrine game (before Lundy got hurt) - He was very tentative making cuts and bursting through the hole.Looking at the RB stats, it looks like Addai is helping himself, but a guy I keep seeing among the leaders in every drill is Wali Lundy. He was a very productive back his first couple of years in college before problems with HC Al Groh, fumble-itis, and injuries led to a less than stellar finish. He has great power and burst for a 215 lb back, but the knock on him was that he was a 4.6 type of guy who lacked the extra gear needed to gain the corner on sweeps and get past the second level between the tackles. Looks like that was a load of crap, though, as he turned in a 4.45 40 and was at or near the top in all the agility drills.
I can't see him ranking any higher 12th-15th among RBs in the most optimistic scenario.This guy is an enigma. looks like he has all the physical tools and was on his way early in his career towards becoming a top back, but has really fallen off. I wonder where he goes in this draft - I imagine his measurables are going to push him up from where he was a couple of weeks ago, but is he any better than a 5th rounder at this point? Seems to me that late in the draft, he could be a diamond in the rough - if someone can teach him to better utilize his skills, he has the size and speed to be a feature back in the NFL.I dont disagree about the quality of Lundy's results this weekend, but I am still down on him based on what i saw all week at the shrine game (before Lundy got hurt) - He was very tentative making cuts and bursting through the hole.Looking at the RB stats, it looks like Addai is helping himself, but a guy I keep seeing among the leaders in every drill is Wali Lundy. He was a very productive back his first couple of years in college before problems with HC Al Groh, fumble-itis, and injuries led to a less than stellar finish. He has great power and burst for a 215 lb back, but the knock on him was that he was a 4.6 type of guy who lacked the extra gear needed to gain the corner on sweeps and get past the second level between the tackles. Looks like that was a load of crap, though, as he turned in a 4.45 40 and was at or near the top in all the agility drills.
Exactly - which is why I think he could be worth a late-round flyer. Do you think he simply lacks the vision/instincts to be a good back, or is his tentativeness a result of something else?I can't see him ranking any higher 12th-15th among RBs in the most optimistic scenario.This guy is an enigma. looks like he has all the physical tools and was on his way early in his career towards becoming a top back, but has really fallen off. I wonder where he goes in this draft - I imagine his measurables are going to push him up from where he was a couple of weeks ago, but is he any better than a 5th rounder at this point? Seems to me that late in the draft, he could be a diamond in the rough - if someone can teach him to better utilize his skills, he has the size and speed to be a feature back in the NFL.I dont disagree about the quality of Lundy's results this weekend, but I am still down on him based on what i saw all week at the shrine game (before Lundy got hurt) - He was very tentative making cuts and bursting through the hole.Looking at the RB stats, it looks like Addai is helping himself, but a guy I keep seeing among the leaders in every drill is Wali Lundy. He was a very productive back his first couple of years in college before problems with HC Al Groh, fumble-itis, and injuries led to a less than stellar finish. He has great power and burst for a 215 lb back, but the knock on him was that he was a 4.6 type of guy who lacked the extra gear needed to gain the corner on sweeps and get past the second level between the tackles. Looks like that was a load of crap, though, as he turned in a 4.45 40 and was at or near the top in all the agility drills.
my impression was that he lacked the instincts/suddenness to make it, yes. He's worth a late round flier, but no more so than guys like Damien Rhodes and A.J. Harris. Among the RBs, I was pleasantly surprised with Terrance Whitehead's short area quickness numbers - I always saw him as more of a FB/HB tweener, but his quickness numbers stacked up well next to the more pure HB prospects.Exactly - which is why I think he could be worth a late-round flyer. Do you think he simply lacks the vision/instincts to be a good back, or is his tentativeness a result of something else?I can't see him ranking any higher 12th-15th among RBs in the most optimistic scenario.This guy is an enigma. looks like he has all the physical tools and was on his way early in his career towards becoming a top back, but has really fallen off. I wonder where he goes in this draft - I imagine his measurables are going to push him up from where he was a couple of weeks ago, but is he any better than a 5th rounder at this point? Seems to me that late in the draft, he could be a diamond in the rough - if someone can teach him to better utilize his skills, he has the size and speed to be a feature back in the NFL.I dont disagree about the quality of Lundy's results this weekend, but I am still down on him based on what i saw all week at the shrine game (before Lundy got hurt) - He was very tentative making cuts and bursting through the hole.Looking at the RB stats, it looks like Addai is helping himself, but a guy I keep seeing among the leaders in every drill is Wali Lundy. He was a very productive back his first couple of years in college before problems with HC Al Groh, fumble-itis, and injuries led to a less than stellar finish. He has great power and burst for a 215 lb back, but the knock on him was that he was a 4.6 type of guy who lacked the extra gear needed to gain the corner on sweeps and get past the second level between the tackles. Looks like that was a load of crap, though, as he turned in a 4.45 40 and was at or near the top in all the agility drills.
Hey Bloom, wonder why they didn't invite that Howard kid from the Senior Bowl?my impression was that he lacked the instincts/suddenness to make it, yes. He's worth a late round flier, but no more so than guys like Damien Rhodes and A.J. Harris. Among the RBs, I was pleasantly surprised with Terrance Whitehead's short area quickness numbers - I always saw him as more of a FB/HB tweener, but his quickness numbers stacked up well next to the more pure HB prospects.Exactly - which is why I think he could be worth a late-round flyer. Do you think he simply lacks the vision/instincts to be a good back, or is his tentativeness a result of something else?I can't see him ranking any higher 12th-15th among RBs in the most optimistic scenario.This guy is an enigma. looks like he has all the physical tools and was on his way early in his career towards becoming a top back, but has really fallen off. I wonder where he goes in this draft - I imagine his measurables are going to push him up from where he was a couple of weeks ago, but is he any better than a 5th rounder at this point? Seems to me that late in the draft, he could be a diamond in the rough - if someone can teach him to better utilize his skills, he has the size and speed to be a feature back in the NFL.I dont disagree about the quality of Lundy's results this weekend, but I am still down on him based on what i saw all week at the shrine game (before Lundy got hurt) - He was very tentative making cuts and bursting through the hole.Looking at the RB stats, it looks like Addai is helping himself, but a guy I keep seeing among the leaders in every drill is Wali Lundy. He was a very productive back his first couple of years in college before problems with HC Al Groh, fumble-itis, and injuries led to a less than stellar finish. He has great power and burst for a 215 lb back, but the knock on him was that he was a 4.6 type of guy who lacked the extra gear needed to gain the corner on sweeps and get past the second level between the tackles. Looks like that was a load of crap, though, as he turned in a 4.45 40 and was at or near the top in all the agility drills.
dam that fast for a TE!It's being reported that Vernon Davis, TE, just ran a 4.37 forty.
I haven't seen any numbers on him - seems like the only knock on him is lack of top-end speed. From what I've seen of him, he's got great vision for a guy who was originally recruited as a defensive player.my impression was that he lacked the instincts/suddenness to make it, yes. He's worth a late round flier, but no more so than guys like Damien Rhodes and A.J. Harris. Among the RBs, I was pleasantly surprised with Terrance Whitehead's short area quickness numbers - I always saw him as more of a FB/HB tweener, but his quickness numbers stacked up well next to the more pure HB prospects.Exactly - which is why I think he could be worth a late-round flyer. Do you think he simply lacks the vision/instincts to be a good back, or is his tentativeness a result of something else?I can't see him ranking any higher 12th-15th among RBs in the most optimistic scenario.This guy is an enigma. looks like he has all the physical tools and was on his way early in his career towards becoming a top back, but has really fallen off. I wonder where he goes in this draft - I imagine his measurables are going to push him up from where he was a couple of weeks ago, but is he any better than a 5th rounder at this point? Seems to me that late in the draft, he could be a diamond in the rough - if someone can teach him to better utilize his skills, he has the size and speed to be a feature back in the NFL.I dont disagree about the quality of Lundy's results this weekend, but I am still down on him based on what i saw all week at the shrine game (before Lundy got hurt) - He was very tentative making cuts and bursting through the hole.Looking at the RB stats, it looks like Addai is helping himself, but a guy I keep seeing among the leaders in every drill is Wali Lundy. He was a very productive back his first couple of years in college before problems with HC Al Groh, fumble-itis, and injuries led to a less than stellar finish. He has great power and burst for a 215 lb back, but the knock on him was that he was a 4.6 type of guy who lacked the extra gear needed to gain the corner on sweeps and get past the second level between the tackles. Looks like that was a load of crap, though, as he turned in a 4.45 40 and was at or near the top in all the agility drills.
Thats fast for anybody.dam that fast for a TE!It's being reported that Vernon Davis, TE, just ran a 4.37 forty.
Yikes.I had him going #10 overall in my mock draft - any chance he goes to the Raiders or 49ers after this?Colin Cowherd just reported that scout inc called him to say that Vernon Davis, TE, just ran a 4.37 forty.
On DeArrrius Howard. I read speculation that a few coaches (both NFL and NCAA) were upset with Houston Nutt for using the Shriner to feature his own player at the expense of several others. Howard got his time in the sun, and was not added to the Combine to make room for some players on the same level who needed to be looked at-- namely a couple fullbacks. On Wali Lundy. I pulled a bunch of game film out last night to watch him, Andre Hall and Brian Calhoun some more. Lundy has poor vision. He makes bad decisions. In a drill he'll look great. Make it live with options and he's not that good with cuts and finding holes.dam that fast for a TE!It's being reported that Vernon Davis, TE, just ran a 4.37 forty.
Thanks.4.38 was his official time. Wow.
Same time as Sinorice Moss.Thanks.4.38 was his official time. Wow.![]()
When you put it like that it's just scary.Same time as Sinorice Moss.Thanks.4.38 was his official time. Wow.![]()
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4.79 is a little slower than I expected from Lewis - I think he was hoping for more like 4.69.I like Klopfenstein quite a bit - think he could be every bit as good as Pope, Lewis, etc...TE 40s
Vernon Davis 4.38*
Tony Scheffler 4.54*
Joe Klopfenstein 4.62*
Leonard Pope 4.62*
Garrett Mills 4.64*
David Thomas 4.67*
Daniel Fells 4.95, 4.99
Matt Henshaw 4.74, 4.75
Marcedes Lewis 4.79
*Official
Jackson is killing it.Looks like Hagan is helping himself a lot at the combine as well - that's a decent time for Nance too, considering his size.WR Short Shuttles:
Chad Jackson 3.97
Jovon Bouknight 4.03
Derek Hagan 4.07
Ed Hinkel 4.10
Mike Hass 4.14
Miles Austin 4.14
Travis wilson 3.99
Brandon williams 4.07
Demetrius Williams 4.08
Martin Nance 4.08
Adam Jennings 4.12
I'd have liked to see a little better than 4.85 from Dumervil - is he fast enough to play rush OLB in a 3-4?DL 40 Times unofficial
Mark Anderson 4.68
Victor Adeyanju 4.87
Sir Henry Anderson 5.29, 5.24
Charles Bennett 4.75, 4.74
McKinley Boykin 5.06, 5.08
Manaia Brown 5.08, 5.12
Copeland Bryan 4.95, 4.91
Brodrick Bunkley 4.99, 4.95
Dusty Dvoracek 4.99, 5.05
Kader Drame 5.29
Elvis Dumbervil 4.83, 4.87
Chris Gocong 4.75
Kedric Golston 4.94
Marcus Green 5.16, 5.25
Parys Haralson 4.84, 4.83
Jason Hatcher 4.91
I think Anderson's stock has to be going up. He got the sack against D'Brick in the Senior Bowl. I watched film of him consitently beating Eric Winston yesterday. Now he's posting the best 40 among DLs. Manny Lawson and Kamerion Wimbley have a good shot at running better, but 4.68 is an explosive 40 for Anderson.
He's got great size at 6' 3" - with this kind of quickness, he could be on the rise.keep an eye on Travis Wilson, folks. The kid was better as a junior than two of his teammates that were drafts 2nd/3rd round last year. He was injured and might go unnoticed.
Consider the Oklahoma WRs with he, Mark Clayton, Marc Bradley, and Brandon Jones. Yes, even with Jason White at QB.
4.79 is a little slower than I expected from Lewis - I think he was hoping for more like 4.69.I like Klopfenstein quite a bit - think he could be every bit as good as Pope, Lewis, etc...TE 40s
Vernon Davis 4.38*
Tony Scheffler 4.54*
Joe Klopfenstein 4.62*
Leonard Pope 4.62*
Garrett Mills 4.64*
David Thomas 4.67*
Daniel Fells 4.95, 4.99
Matt Henshaw 4.74, 4.75
Marcedes Lewis 4.79
*Official
With that time, hes barely fast enough to play DT.<6.0' and a 4.85...hes going to be lucky to be drafted midway through day 2.I'd have liked to see a little better than 4.85 from Dumervil - is he fast enough to play rush OLB in a 3-4?DL 40 Times unofficial
Mark Anderson 4.68
Victor Adeyanju 4.87
Sir Henry Anderson 5.29, 5.24
Charles Bennett 4.75, 4.74
McKinley Boykin 5.06, 5.08
Manaia Brown 5.08, 5.12
Copeland Bryan 4.95, 4.91
Brodrick Bunkley 4.99, 4.95
Dusty Dvoracek 4.99, 5.05
Kader Drame 5.29
Elvis Dumbervil 4.83, 4.87
Chris Gocong 4.75
Kedric Golston 4.94
Marcus Green 5.16, 5.25
Parys Haralson 4.84, 4.83
Jason Hatcher 4.91
I think Anderson's stock has to be going up. He got the sack against D'Brick in the Senior Bowl. I watched film of him consitently beating Eric Winston yesterday. Now he's posting the best 40 among DLs. Manny Lawson and Kamerion Wimbley have a good shot at running better, but 4.68 is an explosive 40 for Anderson.
I was thinking about him as a possible 2nd round pick for Pittsburgh, but with that time, I don't think he's quick enough to play the Porter/Haggans role. It's not a need with Harrison and Frazier in the fold, but I thought it could be a good value pick. Now, it doesn't look like it, despite his production, he just may not be quick enough to get the edge.With that time, hes barely fast enough to play DT.<6.0' and a 4.85...hes going to be lucky to be drafted midway through day 2.I'd have liked to see a little better than 4.85 from Dumervil - is he fast enough to play rush OLB in a 3-4?DL 40 Times unofficial
Mark Anderson 4.68
Victor Adeyanju 4.87
Sir Henry Anderson 5.29, 5.24
Charles Bennett 4.75, 4.74
McKinley Boykin 5.06, 5.08
Manaia Brown 5.08, 5.12
Copeland Bryan 4.95, 4.91
Brodrick Bunkley 4.99, 4.95
Dusty Dvoracek 4.99, 5.05
Kader Drame 5.29
Elvis Dumbervil 4.83, 4.87
Chris Gocong 4.75
Kedric Golston 4.94
Marcus Green 5.16, 5.25
Parys Haralson 4.84, 4.83
Jason Hatcher 4.91
I think Anderson's stock has to be going up. He got the sack against D'Brick in the Senior Bowl. I watched film of him consitently beating Eric Winston yesterday. Now he's posting the best 40 among DLs. Manny Lawson and Kamerion Wimbley have a good shot at running better, but 4.68 is an explosive 40 for Anderson.
Williams: 5'9 3/4" 180lbs, 4.52 forty, 4.07 20S. Orr: 6' 2" 198lbs, 4.41 forty.has brandon williams (WR) wisconsin run the 40 yet?
Williams: 5'9 3/4" 180lbs, 4.52 forty, 4.07 20S. Orr: 6' 2" 198lbs, 4.41 forty.has brandon williams (WR) wisconsin run the 40 yet?
I've had man love for Orr for some time, and while my early prediction he would factor into late 1st/early 2nd round consideration now appears off the mark, I still think someone is getting a bargain when they take him in the 3rd/4th round, for sure.As Wood said above, hes certainly nothing more than a developmental prospect at this point.I was thinking about him as a possible 2nd round pick for Pittsburgh, but with that time, I don't think he's quick enough to play the Porter/Haggans role. It's not a need with Harrison and Frazier in the fold, but I thought it could be a good value pick. Now, it doesn't look like it, despite his production, he just may not be quick enough to get the edge.With that time, hes barely fast enough to play DT.<6.0' and a 4.85...hes going to be lucky to be drafted midway through day 2.I'd have liked to see a little better than 4.85 from Dumervil - is he fast enough to play rush OLB in a 3-4?DL 40 Times unofficial
Mark Anderson 4.68
Victor Adeyanju 4.87
Sir Henry Anderson 5.29, 5.24
Charles Bennett 4.75, 4.74
McKinley Boykin 5.06, 5.08
Manaia Brown 5.08, 5.12
Copeland Bryan 4.95, 4.91
Brodrick Bunkley 4.99, 4.95
Dusty Dvoracek 4.99, 5.05
Kader Drame 5.29
Elvis Dumbervil 4.83, 4.87
Chris Gocong 4.75
Kedric Golston 4.94
Marcus Green 5.16, 5.25
Parys Haralson 4.84, 4.83
Jason Hatcher 4.91
I think Anderson's stock has to be going up. He got the sack against D'Brick in the Senior Bowl. I watched film of him consitently beating Eric Winston yesterday. Now he's posting the best 40 among DLs. Manny Lawson and Kamerion Wimbley have a good shot at running better, but 4.68 is an explosive 40 for Anderson.
Absolutely sick.Colin Cowherd just reported that scout inc called him to say that Vernon Davis, TE, just ran a 4.37 forty.
Drunkenmiller put up numbers like I did on the Wonderlic too. We see where that got him. actually he outperformed me there but that wasn't mcuh of a challenge. However, that dude was really stupid.Drunkenmiller was strong too.Anyone see Cutler put up 23 reps on the bench press? QBs don't normally lift and he goes and puts up a number like that. Sick.Cutler is really helping himself. I like him better than a similar player like Boller.
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Over/under on when Vince 6-lic Young shows up?
Any news on what Reggie McNeal scored on his "lic?" If Vince earned a 6 (or 16 depending on what you believe right now), Reggie's numbers should be hilarious.To add to the sickness:Broad JumpAbsolutely sick.Colin Cowherd just reported that scout inc called him to say that Vernon Davis, TE, just ran a 4.37 forty.
raiders may be jonesin for a QB... but why couldn't davis go that high... i think that time is faster than ben watson... he could be antonio gates on crack... if he can translate those monster measurables to tangible on-field production, he could be a massive difference maker to a passing attack... the seam route would lock down one safety, leaving just one other for the two deep halves... OUCH!Yikes.I had him going #10 overall in my mock draft - any chance he goes to the Raiders or 49ers after this?Colin Cowherd just reported that scout inc called him to say that Vernon Davis, TE, just ran a 4.37 forty.

david thompson & dominique wilkins-like hops... thats gotta hurt in the red zone... this guy is the definition of an explosive athlete & freakish physical specimen...To add to the sickness:Broad JumpAbsolutely sick.Colin Cowherd just reported that scout inc called him to say that Vernon Davis, TE, just ran a 4.37 forty.
Vernon Davis Maryland 10-foot-8![]()
Marcedes Lewis UCLA 9-foot-10
Leonard Pope Georgia 9-foot-10
Jason Pociask Wisconsin 9-foot-7
Ton Scheffler W. Michigan 9-foot-7
Owen Daniels Wisconsin 9-foot-6
Quinnn Sypniewski Colorado 9-foot-6
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Vernon Davis Maryland 42![]()
Leonard Pope Georgia 37½
David Thomas Texas 37½
Marcedes Lewis UCLA 37
Joe Klopfenstein Colorado 36
Garrett Mills Tulsa 35½
He did indeedanyone know if Mike Kudla broke the bench press record?
Anyone know how M. Anderson did on bench press?Mark Anderson continues the impressive workouts:
Fastest 40 for DLs - 4.68
Best Vertical - 42"![]()
Best Broad Jump - 10'7"
Best 3 Cone, 2nd best short shuttle, 2nd best long shuttle...