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From what I read, No.
Tagging @Terminalxylem and @Joe Bryant
I found a link that doesn't refer to any certain politician. Henry Ford Hospitals responded saying the letter is for a worst case scenario if they run out of ICU beds and vents.Can we put sensitivities to the side in the name of truth, information, and doing what’s freaking best for this community?
I hope it’s ok for you to share the link, we need to all see and judge for ourselves. It’s not as if you are getting (what I assume to be the problem) political here. We legit need to have access to this information.
I apologize if that puts you in a bad spot @Ilov80s , and not asking you to post it if the mods don’t agree.
Fuh.
I keep seeing this sentiment in here. I'm not defending the few people who aren't following instructions, but there are like 9 million people in NYC. Most are doing a great job.
This is all absolutely true.
How can you guys elect a model, competent governor like Cuomo and simultaneously elect a clown like Di Blasio? I know the electorates aren't exactly the same, but still, the variance of government in your part of the country is something to behold.
Sure. We should criticize the people who aren't following the directives. But we wouldn't be where we are today--and maybe never would have gotten to this point*--if not for what happened weeks ago.
Cuomo is making a great case for a run for the presidency. I know New Yorkers who are staunch republicans who said (in fact just yesterday) that they'd vote for Cuomo in a heartbeat if he were an option in the upcoming election.
Oh, things could have been done. There's a reason that the epidemic didn't explode in Beijing, Shanghai, or Tokyo.
I hear Marylanders that are democrats say the same thing about Larry Hogan. Both have exhibited competency, compassion, and leadership.
There is no law preventing anyone without income from filing. There is also no penalty for not filing when the IRS would owe you a refund.
Seems like there are stories like this everywhere. Our country has failed miserably in Social Distancing 101.
Where you do live? My wife went to the grocery store yesterday and they only allowed about 20 people in at a time. People waited in a spaced out line and entered only as someone left.
Small town in Ohio. This was at Walmart. The kicker is we just had our first 2 cases in the county this week.
Yikes, its like ants too. If there are 2, there are actually dozens more not too far away. Be safe.
Sell them to the hospitals after all this is done. There's no doubt they'd buy them. "Too many" is mind-boggling.
I think most were infected a long time ago. The proximity of your neighbors, on public transportation etc makes it unavoidable. Asking folks to stay locked inside a 200 sq ft apartment is a little different than asking folks to stay in a 3000 sq. Ft. House.
Probably noted here, but i did read that wealthy IRE property owners are now allowed to use “paper” losses, usually stemming from high depreciation, against “real money” losses. Gee, i hope this wasn’t done to help any politicians. Golly gee willickers........Just don’t mention anything, cause that $1000- check will make up for everything. Man, we need a 3rd political party desperately.
I doubt the hospitals can afford to buy them.
Yeah, you're not wrong; there's certainly more nuance to it than just "sell them lol." After all, like you said, the hospitals would have to be willing to buy them first.
Right. It’s just like fighter planes for WW2. You make as many as possible because we need them now even though we know in a couple years we won’t need them and they will all be stocked in collecting dust in warehouses.
I obviously don't see the problem with this. Going to keep revising my kneejerk reaction into "treat it like defense spending."
Agree, in the end, when we are looking back on this time 2 months from now, we look at this time as a failure due to the few, not the many. In my area I think folks are doing a good job but without a state mandate yet (SC) to shelter in place, there are plenty treating this like vacation and living their best life.
I'll try not to get banned and clean this up because I'm trying to make a point that the rhetoric absolutely has an effect on this.
Ive seen both 16 and 17. Logic would say anyone under 18, but why use logic when talking about the government. Bottom line...I dont know.
I have no idea how many NY needs and i agree that I would err on the higher number. But the flip side is if they all of the ventilators, do they have enough trained staff to administer them?
Let's just ignore the (very real) public health crisis right now, and focus on the (also real) economic crisis instead. Paying people to make ventilators, respirators, hand sanitizer, testing kits, etc. seems like a pretty smart thing to do as a small part of a broader fiscal agenda.
Thanks for sharing. Yeesh, we have a lot to reconsider as a society after this. When we get through to the other side, I do hope we take a hard look at our priorities as a nation and a people, and change our current trajectory.
Thank you. What is so bad about pumping a billion dollars into the economy for Americans to build life saving equipment? We are giving away $6 trillion as is.
smfhAll non-essential businesses in PA were shut down last weekend. So far there have been a total of 57 warnings issued. No fines. Today, one of the local boroughs publicly announced on the news that they will NOT be enforcing any business closings in their borough. Others are expected to follow suit. This is going well.
good news: 2 days in a row my 40% daily increase model over predicted. It's hard to say what I need to do to adjsut the model, but any adjustmeny I make isn't changing the aggregate numbers too much - it's still a lot when you project out another week or two. Based on China and italy, I don't expect to see a reduction resulting from mitigation efforts (i.e. social distancing) until April 5th, so I don't think the reduction is that - I think it's just natural variation.
The point is moot without the product. I'd rather have ventilators sitting waiting on people than the opposite. I know nothing about the training needed to run a ventilator other than what has been posted in here and it sounds very complicated but we have options. How many medics have been discharged from the army in the last 20 years? Call all of them back up you can, give them a 2 week refresher and attack the problem instead of coming up with reasons why we can't do it. (not saying you said that @JaxBill)
This is what turned the tide in WWII. We completely retooled our industrial capabilities in a relatively short period of time and started pumping out what we needed to win a world war. I don't look at this much differently and think the response we need to get ahead of this is similar. You are also putting people to work that otherwise wouldn't be. We can figure this out, we're pretty ####### smart in this country.
Which borough is that so I know to avoid even after all this has passed us?All non-essential businesses in PA were shut down last weekend. So far there have been a total of 57 warnings issued. No fines. Today, one of the local boroughs publicly announced on the news that they will NOT be enforcing any business closings in their borough. Others are expected to follow suit. This is going well.
Or what every other country has experienced with this when they went through the ramp up phase, correct?
