Sounds uncomfortableUgh. So the mayor of Tampa imposed mandatory mask wearing for everyone indoors (not their own home, obviously). I post the article on FB, and my conservative sister in law responds with, "my doctor told me masks are just being used for symbolism."
That's unfortunate.Ugh. So the mayor of Tampa imposed mandatory mask wearing for everyone indoors (not their own home, obviously). I post the article on FB, and my conservative sister in law responds with, "my doctor told me masks are just being used for symbolism."
Be tough for me not to respond with "Might be time to look into a new doctor. I can't believe a physician would say those sorts of things given what we now know"Ugh. So the mayor of Tampa imposed mandatory mask wearing for everyone indoors (not their own home, obviously). I post the article on FB, and my conservative sister in law responds with, "my doctor told me masks are just being used for symbolism."
Be tough for me not to respond with "Might be time to look into a new doctor. I can't believe a physician would say those sorts of things given what we now know"
I actually typed out that kind of response but then deleted it. Instead I linked her to the study out of Texas A&M that says masks are effective. linkOh, I've long known she was one of 'those people' and vice versa. I'm a black sheep in a field on Evangelical right wingers. If they don't like to see the 'sciency' or 'lib' stuff that I post to inform others in my area, they're welcome to unfollow me. I unfollowed her and my brother years ago. If I have to wade through 20 political memes before I get an update on what your kids are doing, you're being unfollowed. I wouldn't hold it against them to do the same.That's unfortunate.
May have spotted a problem in bold though. Now you and the sister in-law are "those people" to each other. FB is a cesspool.
Now back to the regularly scheduled pandemic.
You didn’t, but I’m among the people who are appalled by widespread dismissal of the virus’ severity and premature return to “normal” living. I just threw in the extreme sports humblebrag to show one can be concerned without cowering in a safe room.Don't think I singled you out, so probably not the type of person I am referring to.
HI has 100% indoor mask usage and less than 1000 total cases, many of them imported. While we’ve seen an uptick in cases the last few days, I think we’ve done an outstanding job.I'll put my Connecticut up against your Michigan![]()
And she came in after told her not to. Of course I didn’t realize it until after I had a 5 minute conversation with her in the immunization room. Perks of the job I guess.Customer call just now: Do you need to make an appointment for an immunization? Also do you COVID testing because my friend I spent the day with 4 days ago just tested positive.![]()
Going to a memorial service this evening for a coworker's wife who passed away due to covid 2 months ago. Due to restrictions, the husband has been unable to have a memorial service. I have no idea what this is going to look like except that it is at a big hall. :(
This is a a huge issue and speaks to why the attitudes that we just need to protect the ones in danger and we'll be cool are so frustrationing.![]()
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I ended up skipping the service because my 85 year old father just had aorta aneurysm surgery and was being released today. Didn't want to go to this service, possibly get exposed, then go to his house to help him the next couple days. We were kind of worried about him even getting through the surgery as he isn't in the best of health but the surgery went great and he did great. He was released today and when he got home the hospital called him to tell him that a nurse he had interactions with on Wed tested positive for COVID today. Now he has to quarantine for 14 days. My brother drove him home from the hospital and was potentially exposed. My daughter lives with him to help take care of him. Now we will have to play a waiting gave for 14 days where he could develop symptoms and she is there potentially exposed. She is 27, so I'm not too worried about her, but damn we can't win for losing here.
From what I have been reading in this thread catching up, it seems there are quite a few FBG members that feel older folks are relatively expendable so that they aren't inconvenienced by the horror of wearing a mask.This is a a huge issue and speaks to why the attitudes that we just need to protect the ones in danger and we'll be cool are so frustrations.
Ugh that’s awful. And everything I’ve read from there leads me to believe all their numbers are far below the reality.Brazil with a BIG day.
My wife it's because they are trying to control us. I keep asking how so and get no response. I don't push it too much because I like sex.Ugh. So the mayor of Tampa imposed mandatory mask wearing for everyone indoors (not their own home, obviously). I post the article on FB, and my conservative sister in law responds with, "my doctor told me masks are just being used for symbolism."
I don't think they're expendable but I do admit I don't think it's fair my child's life was upended and education was essentially put on hold for god's knows how long, lack of seeing friends, playing sports all to save 85 year old granny who already lived her whole life. It makes me selfish so be it but my son is my whole world to me and I don't apologize for that.From what I have been reading in this thread catching up, it seems there are quite a few FBG members that feel older folks are relatively expendable so that they aren't inconvenienced by the horror of wearing a mask.
Michigan has a governor not afraid to stand up to political pressure to "liberate Michigan".
Yeah, my wife and I have been on the same page for most of this, although admittedly I've been on the more cautious side. She's starting to lean more towards "enough is enough, lets open up" I've been treading lightly to avoid arguments but we're clearly diverging on our opinions of this at this stage. I keep pointing out new numbers to keep her realistic.My wife it's because they are trying to control us. I keep asking how so and get no response. I don't push it too much because I like sex.
Perfect illustration of why it's so dumb to be trying to downplay this thing...sorry GB. Hope things go ok for you![]()
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I ended up skipping the service because my 85 year old father just had aorta aneurysm surgery and was being released today. Didn't want to go to this service, possibly get exposed, then go to his house to help him the next couple days. We were kind of worried about him even getting through the surgery as he isn't in the best of health but the surgery went great and he did great. He was released today and when he got home the hospital called him to tell him that a nurse he had interactions with on Wed tested positive for COVID today. Now he has to quarantine for 14 days. My brother drove him home from the hospital and was potentially exposed. My daughter lives with him to help take care of him. Now we will have to play a waiting gave for 14 days where he could develop symptoms and she is there potentially exposed. She is 27, so I'm not too worried about her, but damn we can't win for losing here.
masks? don't know....i don't watch the news all that much, but around here, most of the protests have been requiring masks to be part of the group.Any speculation on why the protests didn't make the numbers in places like NYC and Minnesota go up?
Good opportunity to teach your son that life ain't fair. To count your blessings when things are good. To appreciate the little routine things. What a great dose of perspective this pandemic offers, that hopefully will add richness to the rest of his long life.I don't think they're expendable but I do admit I don't think it's fair my child's life was upended and education was essentially put on hold for god's knows how long, lack of seeing friends, playing sports all to save 85 year old granny who already lived her whole life. It makes me selfish so be it but my son is my whole world to me and I don't apologize for that.
Outdoors. Masks. You would think you are looking at 1 spreader per 500 people in that demo (Dallas estimate was this, sue me if NYC is higher).Any speculation on why the protests didn't make the numbers in places like NYC and Minnesota go up?
It’s probably too early to determine if it did or not. Many were young and healthy, so they may not show symptoms. The next level of spread is what could cause problems - when the young asymptomatic kids pass it onto the vulnerable people in their family and community.Any speculation on why the protests didn't make the numbers in places like NYC and Minnesota go up?
He should be fine. Spoke to the nurse supervisor and had them pull his paperwork to see how much interaction he had with the nurse. Apparently they notified every patient on the floor, but he was never under her direct care. Considering they mask up and know protocol, I think his chances of contracting it are pretty slim.Perfect illustration of why it's so dumb to be trying to downplay this thing...sorry GB. Hope things go ok for you![]()
It's tough, no doubt. And I get it. But for me - having my kids, and me, being able to see my 78 year old Dad (kidney transplsnt recipient - super high risk) for hopefully a few more years far outweighs my kids need to go to school or play sports.I don't think they're expendable but I do admit I don't think it's fair my child's life was upended and education was essentially put on hold for god's knows how long, lack of seeing friends, playing sports all to save 85 year old granny who already lived her whole life. It makes me selfish so be it but my son is my whole world to me and I don't apologize for that.
Hoping all goes wellHe should be fine. Spoke to the nurse supervisor and had them pull his paperwork to see how much interaction he had with the nurse. Apparently they notified every patient on the floor, but he was never under her direct care. Considering they mask up and know protocol, I think his chances of contracting it are pretty slim.
The outdoors part seems to be becoming bigger and bigger. I mean it makes sense recycled AC air would spread it judging by some of the vectors in NYC (recycled building and subway air).Outdoors. Masks. You would think you are looking at 1 spreader per 500 people in that demo (Dallas estimate was this, sue me if NYC is higher).
There is far more risk going to a restaurant
We’ll do it right after the Students for Trump rally next Tuesday, we promise.Arizona needs to get it’s act together
More than 20% of Arizona's COVID tests reported today came back positive.
https://twitter.com/steventdennis/status/1274057196670722049?s=21
It’s kind of the opposite — it’s stale indoor air that’s not getting moved around enough. It’s not so much “recycled” air per se ... it’s air that’s not getting exchanged (recycled) with enough frequency.I mean it makes sense recycled AC air would spread it judging by some of the vectors in NYC (recycled building and subway air).
So bummed my 2 week vacation there first part of August is cancelled.HI has 100% indoor mask usage and less than 1000 total cases, many of them imported. While we’ve seen an uptick in cases the last few days, I think we’ve done an outstanding job.
This could lend itself to 'that other forum' but many places have reported this story about de Blasio instructions to contact tracers to not proactively ask people if they've been to a protest.I get the masks, the outdoors and even the generally younger crowd but it's still weird that it didn't even cause a blip yet. It definitely should be looked at in considering social distancing outdoors.
Doesn't Costco still require masks?Went to Costco in Clearwater, FL today - best I could tell, 100% mask wearing by everyone there. I’d say >90% at Target.
Kayleigh McEnany is actually pretty good at her job, She has so much garbage from Trump to deal with, but overall, she is way more succesful than Huckabee Sanders or Mooch or whatever the otheer dozen press secraties that came before
For sure. Per Covid worldometers, Brazil had over 55,000 new cases today! US had over 33,000 new cases. Both countries show about 600K of new tests, so that's a positive rate of about 5% for the US and almost 10% positive for Brazil. Total new cases of over 181,000 is the first time it's ever been above 150,000. And still twenty countries with over 1,000 new cases, so it's still widespread. Worldwide, by the end of June we'll have about 10 million cases and over 500,000 reported deaths due to Covid.Brazil with a BIG day.
Thank god this wasn't the 30's and 40's and Job actually had to make some REAL sacrifices with ration cards and being drafted. OMG--my five year old missed his t-ball game--the horror. Let's just let the Japanese have this place.Good opportunity to teach your son that life ain't fair. To count your blessings when things are good. To appreciate the little routine things. What a great dose of perspective this pandemic offers, that hopefully will add richness to the rest of his long life.
Anyone seen any polls as to what percent of the US wears masks while out in stores? Even with NYC being 100% and other large cities, I am guessing the number is well below 50%.I do not understand the reluctance to wearing masks. I'm in Rochester, NY & our guidance is (has been) based off of NYC so, for the most part, it is mandatory masks in stores etc. Almost everyone is very compliant so I'm pissed when I see the occasional outlier. I see it as being disrespectful to everyone around you.
Why would that hide a spike? If they tested positive it would still be a positive no matter what questions they ask during contact tracing. Do you think they’re going to ask which dates and where they protested at and then contact trace everyone at that protest?This could lend itself to 'that other forum' but many places have reported this story about de Blasio instructions to contact tracers to not proactively ask people if they've been to a protest.
My money is on her doctor didn't really say thatBe tough for me not to respond with "Might be time to look into a new doctor. I can't believe a physician would say those sorts of things given what we now know"
I keep coming back to a similar point. Come on people.Thank god this wasn't the 30's and 40's and Job actually had to make some REAL sacrifices with ration cards and being drafted. OMG--my five year old missed his t-ball game--the horror. Let's just let the Japanese have this place.