yes its for sure not because of media bias, no way.Probably because new cases are a better leading indicator than active cases.
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yes its for sure not because of media bias, no way.Probably because new cases are a better leading indicator than active cases.
Ditto. Sending two 7th graders virtual for fall. The over-under on when the whole school goes virtual is October 1st, because once cases pop up, parents will pull their kids out again (IMO).We have likely decided to keep our kids home for virtual (as there will be a choice) at least for the fall semester. (Have a junior and a 7th grader)
Our district is starting virtual (August 4) through labor day at least. Then, as of now, you have a choice to send in person or virtual but I believe have to make the decision at least for the semester. With the unknown and likely having disruptions to in person (having to go virtual a few weeks if there are more spikes and so on)...just makes more sense to start and stay virtual and see where we are in December.
What some people see as bias I just see as most media members a) are essentially mathematically illiterate, b) not parroting conservative talking points and therefore “biased.”yes its for sure not because of media bias, no way.
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Republican states punching the air right now
At least someone knows what they're doing.
Thank you @NYGovCuomo
.CONGRATS, New York! I cannot wait for #Texas , especially the #rgv to get there!
Too bad we all didn’t do what NY did.
If you read the definition for active cases on the website, it says active cases = total cases - total deaths - recovered. The key here is recovered. Please follow along with me as I explain:Key word being ACTIVE cases.
Yes New York has come a long way but still a long road to travel. Odd to see that state being celebrated while Texas and Florida are demonized. And California being ignored by the media entirely. The numbers don't lie.
Not much talk in here either about California. A continuing theme of parroting what the media decides we should be focused on. Much like the emphasis on death versus cases. Suddenly it's cases that matter. Do people really believe if we were performing 750K tests a day in March and April, there wouldn't have been as many cases then if not more than today? One thing we can clearly see is that deaths are way, way down now versus then.
We heard nonstop talk about New York for weeks. We heard about Arizona a couple weeks back and lately Florida, Texas and California. All of these are due to new cases and lack of stronger measures to slow things down. You’re seeing something that is not there, IMO.New York and California leading the way in active cases yet all we hear about is Florida and Texas. Weird.
7 deaths in NYNew York and California leading the way in active cases yet all we hear about is Florida and Texas. Weird.
Deaths are way way up in FL and TX and CA. Not sure how anyone can dispute that.Key word being ACTIVE cases.
Yes New York has come a long way but still a long road to travel. Odd to see that state being celebrated while Texas and Florida are demonized. And California being ignored by the media entirely. The numbers don't lie.
Not much talk in here either about California. A continuing theme of parroting what the media decides we should be focused on. Much like the emphasis on death versus cases. Suddenly it's cases that matter. Do people really believe if we were performing 750K tests a day in March and April, there wouldn't have been as many cases then if not more than today? One thing we can clearly see is that deaths are way, way down now versus then.
I see where you are going and I agree. New England states got hammered in the death department early on, and I doubt the rest of the nation will EVER catch up.Just odd seeing the replies to this CNN Breaking News Tweet from 25 minutes ago...
https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1281967341278986242
How brainwashed do you have to be to make comments like that?
Deaths
New York - 32K
TX, FL, AZ, GA - 12.4K combined
If only we were all more like New York, hooray NY!
Seriously. WTF are they even talking about?I hear CA mentioned w/FL,TX,AZ all the time.
We heard about NY for MONTHS.
Correct.Seriously. WTF are they even talking about?
Creating a false narrative to complain about a false narrative is a special kind of mental gymnastics.
It all depends on what narrow slice of media you consume evidently.
Is there a standard for reporting the recovered group? Pergaps MAs number is based on non-hospitalized and discharged? Or RI possibly leaving cases open until every last shred of symptoms disappear? The CRUSH RI app has a daily symptom feature that could tie in?Active cases on Worldometer is totally stupid...
Rhode Island - Of the 17,312 cases, 976 died, leaving 16,336 on the road to recovery. Of those, 14,651 are still on their way (90%).
Connecticut - Of the 47,287 cases, 4,348 died, leaving 42,939 on the road to recovery. Of those, 26,054 are still on their way (61%).
Massachusetts - Of the 111,110 cases, 8,296 died, leaving 102,814 on the road to recovery. Of those, 8,467 are still on their way (8%).
I chose these 3 states because they border each other, and were hit early. Evidently, folks from RI don't heal too well (Mr Glass), and people from MA heal like Bruce Willis in Unbreakable.
Not even remotely close to herd immunity.I wonder if #s are so good in NYC because we are getting close to herd immunity. Saw some stats that some of the hard hit neighborhoods in Queens in the early going have 68% positive antibody result rates.
With such a disparity, I guarantee there is no standard. At this point, there isn't even a standard for reporting deaths, let alone recoveries.Is there a standard for reporting the recovered group? Pergaps MAs number is based on non-hospitalized and discharged? Or RI possibly leaving cases open until every last shred of symptoms disappear? The CRUSH RI app has a daily symptom feature that could tie in?
This isn’t the political forumNew York and California leading the way in active cases yet all we hear about is Florida and Texas. Weird.
https://www.azdhs.gov/preparedness/epidemiology-disease-control/infectious-disease-epidemiology/covid-19/dashboards/index.phpArizona with ok report today. About 3000 new cases with a 20% raw positive rate, a significant decrease. Could be a trend but with the weekend here, it will be a few days before we can tell if the trend continues.
The one day decrease the ICU COVID cases didn’t last and back to trending up. Record highs in pretty much every hospital category. Not huge but a consistent net increase in the ICU, acute care and ventilators.
Deaths were 69, probably a new normal for awhile even if cases are trending down. Reports are surfacing of hospitals filling their morgues and bringing in refrigerated trucks.
I haven’t seen the trends for today’s reporting but the last couple days have showed higher growth in the 45-54 and 55-64. Not surprising but hopefully not a trend that continues.
Thanks board police. You made a political connection not me.This isn’t the political forum
From what I’ve read, NYC does have about 20-25% positives on antibody tests. While that doesn’t equate to herd immunity, it will make it more difficult for the R0 to spike, because every fourth person you come into contact with theoretically has immunity.I wonder if #s are so good in NYC because we are getting close to herd immunity. Saw some stats that some of the hard hit neighborhoods in Queens in the early going have 68% positive antibody result rates.
Yeah we know what you meant.Thanks board police. You made a political connection not me.
Yes. In one way it's helpful to have posters like that in here. (Even though I have them all on ignore.) We can always be certain of currency on the latest troll meme.I see that "Operation: Move The Goalposts To 'Active Cases'" has officially begun...
Right. This follows "BUT TEH TESTING INCREASE!!!" and "BUT NO RISE IN DEF RATE!!!!!JUAN" into the dustbin of history.The sad thing about the whole "BUT WHATABOUT ACTIVE CASES?!" narrative is that it's only a matter of days before Florida and Texas eclipse New York and California in terms of the active case rate.
And then it'll be on to the next goalpost.
Don’t forget the classic “Cure is Worse Than the Disease”Right. This follows "BUT TEH TESTING INCREASE!!!" and "BUT NO RISE IN DEF RATE!!!!!JUAN" into the dustbin of history.
Glad you mentioned AZ, because I was just about to do a deep dive into their numbers. I printed out a few line drawing maps of the USA so I could write numbers on them. As for cases per million, AZ instantly stood out to me. Here are AZ's numbers compared to the states that border it:Arizona with ok report today. About 3000 new cases with a 20% raw positive rate, a significant decrease. Could be a trend but with the weekend here, it will be a few days before we can tell if the trend continues.
The one day decrease the ICU COVID cases didn’t last and back to trending up. Record highs in pretty much every hospital category. Not huge but a consistent net increase in the ICU, acute care and ventilators.
Deaths were 69, probably a new normal for awhile even if cases are trending down. Reports are surfacing of hospitals filling their morgues and bringing in refrigerated trucks.
I haven’t seen the trends for today’s reporting but the last couple days have showed higher growth in the 45-54 and 55-64. Not surprising but hopefully not a trend that continues.
In decades of using this site I had never used the ignore list prior to this thread.Yes. In one way it's helpful to have posters like that in here. (Even though I have them all on ignore.) We can always be certain of currency on the latest troll meme.
We are #1 in the world, not just the US, in cases per capita.Glad you mentioned AZ, because I was just about to do a deep dive into their numbers. I printed out a few line drawing maps of the USA so I could write numbers on them. As for cases per million, AZ instantly stood out to me. Here are AZ's numbers compared to the states that border it:
AZ - 16,477
UT (8,803), NV (8,713), CA (7,907), NM (6,939)
Basically, AZ doubles all the other states. So then I figured, it must be because they are testing at a higher rate, right? Wrong
AZ - 118,193 tests per million
NM (192,472), NV (137,989), CA (130,991), UT (123,512)
In fact, AZ is last in testing of the 5 states, making their cases per M even that more impressive.
Well, at least they can't lead the 5 states in deaths per million. Or can they? They can.
AZ's deaths really aren't all that eye popping, but their case count is crazy. What the heck are they doing ranked 4th in cases per million, when they are surrounded by a bunch of states that are nowhere near the top, and they are below the average in tests per million? It just doesn't make sense.
What percentage of those that have been infected will have long term chronic health issues I wonder.From what I’ve read, NYC does have about 20-25% positives on antibody tests. While that doesn’t equate to herd immunity, it will make it more difficult for the R0 to spike, because every fourth person you come into contact with theoretically has immunity.
Combined with strict mask laws, NYC has some real reasons for optimism moving forward.
How you feeling today?mr roboto said:Day 4 of “I probably have COVID”...
Test won’t come back till late next week. Cough, fatigue, slight headache, tightness in chest. Lungs sound clear. Feels like a mild to moderate flu. Today slightly worse than yesterday. I get brain fog slightly here and there.
I have to be in an all-day series of on-camera Zoom meetings today. Wish me luck.
87.4%What percentage of those that have been infected will have long term chronic health issues I wonder.
The whole ‘chronic health issues’ is overstated. Hypertension and obesity are included, so it’s not like they are just talking about people who already severely ill.What percentage of those that have been infected will have long term chronic health issues I wonder.
I think he's talking about the long term effects of the disease for the people that "recover" instead of dying.The whole ‘chronic health issues’ is overstated. Hypertension and obesity are included, so it’s not like they are just talking about people who already severely ill.
Active cases on worldometers are meaningless. NY doesn’t report recovered cases so it basically makes no sense. Look at NY hospitalizations which are lowest since mid-March. If you look where NY was and is now it is a success story.Key word being ACTIVE cases.
Yes New York has come a long way but still a long road to travel. Odd to see that state being celebrated while Texas and Florida are demonized. And California being ignored by the media entirely. The numbers don't lie.
Not much talk in here either about California. A continuing theme of parroting what the media decides we should be focused on. Much like the emphasis on death versus cases. Suddenly it's cases that matter. Do people really believe if we were performing 750K tests a day in March and April, there wouldn't have been as many cases then if not more than today? One thing we can clearly see is that deaths are way, way down now versus then.
AZ shares boarders with those states but not much else. The main population centers, Phoenix and Tucson, aren’t terribly close to population centers of the other states. That semi-isolation made them a good candidate to not get hit hard and they weren’t for the most part.Glad you mentioned AZ, because I was just about to do a deep dive into their numbers. I printed out a few line drawing maps of the USA so I could write numbers on them. As for cases per million, AZ instantly stood out to me. Here are AZ's numbers compared to the states that border it:
AZ - 16,477
UT (8,803), NV (8,713), CA (7,907), NM (6,939)
Basically, AZ doubles all the other states. So then I figured, it must be because they are testing at a higher rate, right? Wrong
AZ - 118,193 tests per million
NM (192,472), NV (137,989), CA (130,991), UT (123,512)
In fact, AZ is last in testing of the 5 states, making their cases per M even that more impressive.
Well, at least they can't lead the 5 states in deaths per million. Or can they? They can.
AZ's deaths really aren't all that eye popping, but their case count is crazy. What the heck are they doing ranked 4th in cases per million, when they are surrounded by a bunch of states that are nowhere near the top, and they are below the average in tests per million? It just doesn't make sense.
Oops misread it.I think he's talking about the long term effects of the disease for the people that "recover" instead of dying.