Official Cowboys Offseason Thread. 4th pick overall (2 Viewers)

[Bankerguy]

That's par for course on a ff board imo.

I'm around, more of a reader than a poster.

Cheers!

Please don't be shy...post as you like.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I don't even know what I want in the 3rd smh. Gotta get some pass rush somehow

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I keep seeing some of you guys saying things like Zeke is a "win now" guy and now you're confused that this pick is a player for the future. 

The best teams draft good football players. We keep drafting good players year in and year out we won't have to "win now". We will consistently be in the hunt year in and year out. 

 

[Bankerguy]

I keep seeing some of you guys saying things like Zeke is a "win now" guy and now you're confused that this pick is a player for the future. 

The best teams draft good football players. We keep drafting good players year in and year out we won't have to "win now". We will consistently be in the hunt year in and year out. 

It's a fair comment.  It is hard to stomach a year of no production before starting your career.

Zeke could be OROY in 2016

Jaylon could be DROY in 2017

 

[simmonjm]

I talked a few folks off the ledge that night...lol.  I loved the player, didn't like the value.  Sometimes, it just doesn't matter though. Good players are good players.

Would you have traded this years 2nd rd pick for a top 5 pick next year?  Because that is essentially how I view the Jaylon Smith trade. 

 

[Bankerguy]

Would you have traded this years 2nd rd pick for a top 5 pick next year?  Because that is essentially how I view the Jaylon Smith trade. 

Sure....but let's not pretend there is no risk. His foot is dropping and he can't currently control it.  I pray the docs are right. 

Again, not hating on it. Very hard to get excited about it today though.  At least for me. It's like Christmas morning and being told that instead of getting an ipad this year, next I get a Mac book if I guess a coin flip correct.

 

[Routilla]

Would you have traded this years 2nd rd pick for a top 5 pick next year?  Because that is essentially how I view the Jaylon Smith trade. 

I was about to post this. Assuming Smith fully recovers he would easily be a top pick in 2017. Time will tell.

 

[Bankerguy]

In no order....Connor Cook / Vonn Bell / Andrew Billings/ Bullard/Fuller

 

[Bankerguy]

Bell to New Orleans.....grrrr

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Yuk

 

[Bankerguy]

Defense.....Coach Rod talking to the pick on the phone.

 

[Bankerguy]

Our last 2 draftees have a combined 3 knee tendons.

LOL....last joke I will make on it.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Yuk

Shocked you didn't like the pick.

 

[Bankerguy]

Jaylon Smith expects to play during the 2016 year....interesting

 

[Hastur]

Is there a link to constant Cowboys war room coverage?

 

[Bankerguy]

http://www.dallascowboys.com/video/2016/04/29/draft-day-live-war-room-cam

 

[Hastur]

http://www.dallascowboys.com/video/2016/04/29/draft-day-live-war-room-cam

Yeah, I'm on that now.  How about a camera aimed at Jerrah, Stephen, and Garrett?

 

[Bankerguy]

Yeah, I'm on that now.  How about a camera aimed at Jerrah, Stephen, and Garrett?

They cut to it.....about 9 10 picks ahead of time.  Over for tonight.

 

[Hastur]

They cut to it.....about 9 10 picks ahead of time.  Over for tonight.

OK, thanks!

Just wish they had a link to the war room all the time.  Give us a sense if they start working the phones, looking for a trade or something.

 

[Bankerguy]

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2016/04/29/cowboys-bolster-d-line-interior-draft-nebraska-dt-maliek-collins-third

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Shocked you didn't like the pick.

Ha! I posted that before that picked

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Ha! I posted that before that picked

I was just messin with you anyways. Welcome aboard. Most Cowboys fans are pretty cool here with only a few blowhards that give us a bad name.

 

[Pickle Rody]

I'm not so sure Smith is a wasted pick. Well, it's too early to decide....so, ....I'll wait to see how it plays out. 

 

[metoo]

Jaylon Smith expects to play during the 2016 year....interesting

If he doesn't work out it won't be for effort or not being able to stay off the weed. I would have chosen Ramsey and Jack but there is a reason I work a 9-5. I'm believing in the front office.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2016/04/25/jaylon-smith-nfl-draft-notre-dame-injury-recovery/83489188/

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Hindsight being 20-20 I would have liked to take Jack, traded back up for Smith, and then taken the DT the patriots took over the DT we took, both from Nebraska. 

 

[humpback]

He tore his ACL and MCL pump the brakes guy.  Surgeon confirmed no nerve damage.  Nerve damage doesnt just show up months later without any reason.

Except the surgeon confirmed that there is nerve damage, but he's confident that it'll recover.

 

[massraider]

Tapper great pick.

 

[Bankerguy]

Tapper great pick.

Lots of measurables, not great production, hopefully can be coached up. Was ranked in the 70s by most. Good value pick and for need.

 

[massraider]

Lots of measurables, not great production, hopefully can be coached up. Was ranked in the 70s by most. Good value pick and for need.

Check his previous year.

OK asked him to two gap last year, and he did.  He is an animal, he was just a team player last year.  

 

[Bankerguy]

Check his previous year.

OK asked him to two gap last year, and he did.  He is an animal, he was just a team player last year.  

Thanks for the insight. Much appreciated.

 

[Bankerguy]

Next pick has to be the QB?

 

[Bankerguy]

Dak Prescott....nailed that in my mock.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Dak Prescott....nailed that in my mock.

Im liking what Im reading about the kid. Hopefully Romo can coach him up.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

 Hopefully Romo can coach him up.

Me too. I don't think I've ever seen him play..

I've often thought that Romo would be a good mentor for a good young QB. We'll see

 

[Bankerguy]

Thinking CB and S are next.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Thinking CB and S are next.

Hoping. Although more pass rush wouldn't make me mad

 

[Bankerguy]

Anthony Brown. 5'11 Corner. Good in Zone. Gave up TD's in man. Has 4.35 speed.  Should be a ST contributor.

 

[Bankerguy]

Anthony Brown. 5'11 Corner. Good in Zone. Gave up TD's in man. Has 4.35 speed.  Should be a ST contributor.

Can't teach 4.35

 

[Bankerguy]

I want a SS.

I am talking to myself in here...maybe I have gone crazy.

 

[cobalt_27]

House full of guests since Thursday, been tied up but been wanting to chime in...

1.  Zeke.  I came around Wed or Thursday morning on him, fully hoping we'd take him but expecting Ramsey if SD passed on him.  So, I was ecstatic when the pick came in.  Old school RB, does it all, checks off all the boxes, he's going to be great and will help us dictate flow of the game.

2.  Jaylon.  Stunned.  Really happy for the kid.  Feel good pick.  But, even if he's the next Luke Kuechly, he plays for us 3 years and then is a FA.  Would have preferred Spence.  I can't comment on the knee issue, as I have no professional skill set to do so.  I'm just feeling that even if he starts for us in 2017, I still think we way overspent. Happy for the kid and hope it works out for us.

From here, Collins and Prescott are fine selections.  I'm not terribly impressed with either, but they help fill a couple needs.  Our defense still looks to be in the weeds on the pass rush, and that's my biggest disappointment from this draft.  That said, I hope we are in 2017 and look back fondly at this weekend with the cornerstone RB and elite/healthy LB we scored.

 

[Bankerguy]

Kevon Frazier. Um....Strong Safety.  Physical, good tackler.  Yup.

Taps mike...maybe this thing IS on.

 

[Bankerguy]

Gimme a another LB - Sam and a TE....just because.   

 

[Bankerguy]

The RB pick is likely a waste.

Rico!!!!  Lmao.  There is my TE.

 

[Dezbelief]

Got a TE

 

[Dezbelief]

Good call on Elliot Bankerguy.

 

[Bankerguy]

Good call on Elliot Bankerguy.

Called Prescott too.

 

[Routilla]

Zeke. That is all. Thanks for playing. 

 

[Dezbelief]

Looks like we drafted all of our needs, time to see how they pan out.

 

[DevilDog919]

Rico Gathers hasn't played football since 13. Was a basketball player at Baylor.

Seems like a good athlete. Can he make the same transition that Gates and Jimmy Graham did? 

 

[Bankerguy]

I am going to let in soak in a few days before giving my final thoughts.