Colin Dowling
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I think the SPencer pick was fantastic. He'll likely stand up some and rotate in with Ellis and Spears to help generate a pass rush oppositte Ware.
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****OFFICIAL**** Dallas Cowboys Offseason Thread (1 Viewer)
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oddball
Smart
I think I just pee'd myself
Toss in Canty, Carpender, and Hatcher, and I feel sorry for the opposing QB's.......no I don't 
The lack of pressure from the dallas d has frustrated me to no end the last few years.
I'm not thrilled about spending a 1st on yet another lb, but if it gives Wade another significant weapon to attack the qb with, then I will be happy. If they can't generate significant pressure again, then I'll be pissed.
I was really hoping for Houston or Meachem with the trade up. The rest of the picks, eh, we'll see if the staff can develop them or not.
Oh, and of course I am happy about the Cleveland pick. Even if Quinn ends up as a franchise qb, it wont be next year. They will suck hard again and it will end up being a top 10 pick most likely.
I'm not thrilled about spending a 1st on yet another lb, but if it gives Wade another significant weapon to attack the qb with, then I will be happy. If they can't generate significant pressure again, then I'll be pissed.
I was really hoping for Houston or Meachem with the trade up. The rest of the picks, eh, we'll see if the staff can develop them or not.
Oh, and of course I am happy about the Cleveland pick. Even if Quinn ends up as a franchise qb, it wont be next year. They will suck hard again and it will end up being a top 10 pick most likely.
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The Man With No Name
Footballguy
The pass rush was frustrating, but Parcell's very rarely ever blitzed and that will change with Phillips defense.
oddball
Smart
Link
Story by Mickey Spagnola
IRVING, Texas - Judging the NFL Draft is akin to judging a beauty contest:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
And judging has become part of the cottage industry spawned from the draft over the past 10 to 15 years, which means yearly letter grades are issued every team by many media outlets, individual writers and Internet sites - who gets an A, who gets a D and who basically flunks out in their minds.
Now everyone has their own criteria for grading a draft. Some only take into consideration the players selected. Some not only take into consideration the players selected, but also what a team might have bankrolled in the draft for the next year, such as the Cowboys, you know, turning the No. 22 pick in the first round into Purdue linebacker Anthony Spencer and Cleveland's first-round pick in 2008. Seems that should account for something.
And others, well, they might take into consideration a team's draft station. Would stand to reason a team selecting in the top five of each round should do significantly better than the team drafting 25th in each round. The top-five team always has more players at its selecting disposal than those teams in the bottom third of the draft which must peruse the leftovers.
When it comes to the Cowboys, though, they always seem to be one of those lightning rod teams - love 'em or hate 'em - and many times there seems to be a wide discrepancy of grades. Also what happens, these graders do not have inside knowledge of what a team is trying to do or the intimate knowledge the individual teams would have of the players being selected.
For example, most probably didn't realize kicker Nick Folk, the Cowboys' sixth-round pick, had a significantly better combine performance than Colorado's Mason Crosby. They also probably didn't realize the Cowboys plan on moving Washington quarterback Isaiah Stanback to wide receiver or that they are fully aware the Lis Franc injury suffered at mid-season isn't completely healed and that they are only interested in him being ready for training camp, not next weekend's mini-camp. And wonder if many of these graders even knew who sixth-round pick Deon Anderson is or anything about seventh-rounder Courtney Brown.
But hey, that's the fun in all this.
So we have decided to give you a sampling of what other news outlets thought of the Cowboys draft, along with ours, and if you want, go ahead and factor in your grade into the consensus GPA. And for continuity purposes, let's grade on a four-point scale, where an A is worth four points, a B three points, a C two points, a D one point and an F absolutely nothing. And if you want to deal in pluses and minuses, then make the plus worth .4 points and the minus worth .2, thus a C-plus is worth 2.4 points and a B-minus worth 2.8 as example.
Let's take a look then at what we've got for the Cowboys, who finished the draft with eight selections - a first, a third, two fourths, two sixths and two sevenths - not to mention a first for 2008, which to me was worth at least a half-grade higher, but then don't let anyone else influence your score.
And just for accounting purposes, you are going to find out the Cowboys received eight B-range grades, seven C-range grades, one A-range grade and one D grade. So, if you throw out the A-judger and the D-judger, the Cowboys then receive one more B grade than C grade, for what it's worth.
Enjoy.
Outlet Grade Points
ESPN.com, Mel Kiper Jr. B- 2.8
SI.com, Paul Zimmerman C 2.0
USA Today, Tom Weir B 3.0
The Dallas Morning News, Rick Gosselin D 1.0
Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Charean Williams C+ 2.4
DallasCowboys.com, Mickey Spagnola A- 3.8
CBSSportsline.com, Pete Prisco B 3.0
SportingNews.com, War Room Scouts B- 2.8
NBCSports.com, Greg Rosenthal B+ 3.4
Yahoo.com, Charles Robinson B 3.0
Chicago Tribune, Don Pierson B- 2.8
Detroit News, Mike O'Hara C- 1.8
NFL Class, Kyle Trembley B 3.0
DrFootball.com C 2.0
Newark Star-Ledger, Paul Needle C+ 2.4
FoxSports.com, John Czarnecki C 2.0
NFL Draft Central C+ 2.4
Your Grade - -
Consensus C+/B- 2.6
Story by Mickey Spagnola
IRVING, Texas - Judging the NFL Draft is akin to judging a beauty contest:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
And judging has become part of the cottage industry spawned from the draft over the past 10 to 15 years, which means yearly letter grades are issued every team by many media outlets, individual writers and Internet sites - who gets an A, who gets a D and who basically flunks out in their minds.
Now everyone has their own criteria for grading a draft. Some only take into consideration the players selected. Some not only take into consideration the players selected, but also what a team might have bankrolled in the draft for the next year, such as the Cowboys, you know, turning the No. 22 pick in the first round into Purdue linebacker Anthony Spencer and Cleveland's first-round pick in 2008. Seems that should account for something.
And others, well, they might take into consideration a team's draft station. Would stand to reason a team selecting in the top five of each round should do significantly better than the team drafting 25th in each round. The top-five team always has more players at its selecting disposal than those teams in the bottom third of the draft which must peruse the leftovers.
When it comes to the Cowboys, though, they always seem to be one of those lightning rod teams - love 'em or hate 'em - and many times there seems to be a wide discrepancy of grades. Also what happens, these graders do not have inside knowledge of what a team is trying to do or the intimate knowledge the individual teams would have of the players being selected.
For example, most probably didn't realize kicker Nick Folk, the Cowboys' sixth-round pick, had a significantly better combine performance than Colorado's Mason Crosby. They also probably didn't realize the Cowboys plan on moving Washington quarterback Isaiah Stanback to wide receiver or that they are fully aware the Lis Franc injury suffered at mid-season isn't completely healed and that they are only interested in him being ready for training camp, not next weekend's mini-camp. And wonder if many of these graders even knew who sixth-round pick Deon Anderson is or anything about seventh-rounder Courtney Brown.
But hey, that's the fun in all this.
So we have decided to give you a sampling of what other news outlets thought of the Cowboys draft, along with ours, and if you want, go ahead and factor in your grade into the consensus GPA. And for continuity purposes, let's grade on a four-point scale, where an A is worth four points, a B three points, a C two points, a D one point and an F absolutely nothing. And if you want to deal in pluses and minuses, then make the plus worth .4 points and the minus worth .2, thus a C-plus is worth 2.4 points and a B-minus worth 2.8 as example.
Let's take a look then at what we've got for the Cowboys, who finished the draft with eight selections - a first, a third, two fourths, two sixths and two sevenths - not to mention a first for 2008, which to me was worth at least a half-grade higher, but then don't let anyone else influence your score.
And just for accounting purposes, you are going to find out the Cowboys received eight B-range grades, seven C-range grades, one A-range grade and one D grade. So, if you throw out the A-judger and the D-judger, the Cowboys then receive one more B grade than C grade, for what it's worth.
Enjoy.
Outlet Grade Points
ESPN.com, Mel Kiper Jr. B- 2.8
SI.com, Paul Zimmerman C 2.0
USA Today, Tom Weir B 3.0
The Dallas Morning News, Rick Gosselin D 1.0
Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Charean Williams C+ 2.4
DallasCowboys.com, Mickey Spagnola A- 3.8
CBSSportsline.com, Pete Prisco B 3.0
SportingNews.com, War Room Scouts B- 2.8
NBCSports.com, Greg Rosenthal B+ 3.4
Yahoo.com, Charles Robinson B 3.0
Chicago Tribune, Don Pierson B- 2.8
Detroit News, Mike O'Hara C- 1.8
NFL Class, Kyle Trembley B 3.0
DrFootball.com C 2.0
Newark Star-Ledger, Paul Needle C+ 2.4
FoxSports.com, John Czarnecki C 2.0
NFL Draft Central C+ 2.4
Your Grade - -
Consensus C+/B- 2.6
Rig24
Footballguy
I think we will see a huge difference in pressure applied by the Dallas D this year. Parcells imposed a 2 gap 3-4 D while Phillips runs a 1 gap D. This will allow players like Canty and Spears to add pressure by attacking the line instead of being reactionary. Hopefully next season QB's will not be able to sit in the pocket for 5 sec, no secondary can hold WR's that long.
