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cobalt_27 said:
Andy Herron said:
The Cowboys were the only team across the league to not sign a free agent this offseason.It's all about the upcoming draft, as I stated a few months ago.
Gee. Maybe we can have a repeat of last year's stellar draft. We could trade down, down, down...accumulate a ton of special teams players. That would be awesome.
 
cobalt_27 said:
Andy Herron said:
The Cowboys were the only team across the league to not sign a free agent this offseason.It's all about the upcoming draft, as I stated a few months ago.
Gee. Maybe we can have a repeat of last year's stellar draft. We could trade down, down, down...accumulate a ton of special teams players. That would be awesome.
and STILL NEED the starting QB to be the holder and not have a kicker, ya that was awesesome.
 
cobalt_27 said:
Andy Herron said:
The Cowboys were the only team across the league to not sign a free agent this offseason.It's all about the upcoming draft, as I stated a few months ago.
Gee. Maybe we can have a repeat of last year's stellar draft. We could trade down, down, down...accumulate a ton of special teams players. That would be awesome.
and STILL NEED the starting QB to be the holder and not have a kicker, ya that was awesesome.
:lmao: Sooo Funny .............. wait...... that is true........ :lmao:
 
The Cowboys were the only team across the league to not sign a free agent this offseason.It's all about the upcoming draft, as I stated a few months ago.
Gee. Maybe we can have a repeat of last year's stellar draft. We could trade down, down, down...accumulate a ton of special teams players. That would be awesome.
I too would be VERY disapointed if we do not come out of this draft with an immediate impact player (at least 1). I would like us to use our picks to trade up on 1 or 2 picks.
 
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The Cowboys were the only team across the league to not sign a free agent this offseason.It's all about the upcoming draft, as I stated a few months ago.
Gee. Maybe we can have a repeat of last year's stellar draft. We could trade down, down, down...accumulate a ton of special teams players. That would be awesome.
I too would be VERY disapointed if we do not come out of this draft with an immediate impact player (at least 1). I would like us to use our picks to trade up on 1 or 2 picks.
Yea, I think we are really only a player or two away from being as good of a team the NFL rules will allow you to assemble. Really need some safety, OL, and LB help IMO. If we don't shore up those areas we are just going to have a repeat of the last 2-4 years.
 
Jerry's PC today:

Just came from the draft room. This is an important time for us. This is a deep draft and we can do some good in it. I’ll take questions.

Release of Flo and Hamlin?

We have had a security blanket there with Flo for many seasons, but this move was all about Doug Free. We’re glad we got to see him have some playtime during the season. We’ve spent a lot of time looking at his tape to make sure he had what we’re looking for and comparing it to tape of other tackles in the league and college. So I can’t address Flo without talking about Doug. I will say you won’t have a player who gives you more confidence than Flo did. We planed on moving Larry Allen to LT before we drafted Flozell, and Flo eliminated that. He provided security and confidence that he could handle the job of a left tackle, and he did it. The real world is at this juncture on our team with a cap system, we’ve invested significantly in our OL with Davis and Gurode. If you want highly paid skill players, then you need young players at other positions to come along who can compete and have compatible cap numbers. You know the pressure guys and cover guys and big play guys are going to make a lot of money, so you can’t pay the line guys all market money.

Have you put a finger on why you haven’t been more successful drafting and developing OL guys in the mid rounds?

You got to play those guys. We got a guy Peterman who is starting in Detroit who we drafted. It’s my job to put the emphasis on the coaches to play the young guys. Coaches like their security blankets, and that’s how it should be. But I told our OL coaches last year that we need to see what these young guys can . Usually they get play time due to injury, and that’s how Free got his. But when we draft 3rd round players we got to get those guys on the field, and that’s my fault for not emphasizing that.

Do you think maybe the reason you don’t develop offensive line well is you don’t take the premium talents in the 1st round and always wait until the midrounds?

Philosophically that’s fair. The real world is in the 1st rounder that I have other considerations . The success we’ve had is finding Flozell and Gurode who we’re first round guys who slid into the 2nd round. Its okay to pay a premium left tackle. What’s hard to justify is a line full of salaries that you pay at left tackle. If you have a QB and skill players who have a high level, it’s hard to justify. It’s We’re at 27, close to the 2nd round. So we might look more at offensive line there. It’s unlikely that we’ll move up. I don’t see that happening. If a quality offensive lineman there it’s a real consideration.

Do you think it’s important to increase your number of picks?

Not really. I’d like to have more than 6, but to get more picks you have to give up something. A draft pick or a player. You may have the chance to stay where you are and find value at each pick. It depends to the value on position and the grouping at each position and what happens when it comes your way. If you see a group thining out and you have a chance to move up you got to do it .

The 3 day format?

It makes the picks at the top of the 2nd round more valuable than they would have been. More people will be offering more to get those picks after the break. The beginning of the 4th round will be more valuable too. You would like to think that with all year long to prepare that you wouldn’t overreact the night between between rounds. But when it’s all your looking at is what’s left you have a different mindset. Its human nature.

Draft a kicker?

I’m pat with where we are with our kickers?

Interested in WR’s in the 1st round if the top one slips?

Unlikely. I like where we are at WR.

If you were interested in trading a current player for draft picks, would you have been done it already?

Not necessarily. It can be done on the clock … but it doesn’t happen very often. You’ve usually already had some discussion there, especially when contract negotiations are involved. I’ve entertained it right on the clock, especially on the first couple of rounds.

Fielded any interest in your players?

Yes. I won’t say which ones.

Do you have a hard time putting enough value on kickers to draft one?

Not if they get touchbacks everytime they kick the ball.

FS?

Ball is a consideration there. Sensabugh is being counted on. Mike Hamlin is someone who has a chance to help us there. He’s a year along. I ask myself as we evaluate these safeties to compare them to a Hamlin or a Ball. We aren’t hostage to any position in this draft. If you look at our numbers, then you say we need to draft safety. We will miss Ken Hamlin’s quarterbacking, but I think we have some of that in place. It would be a lot to ask of a rookie to be the quarterback of your defense, but it can be done.

Do you think more likely to move down than move up?

I can’t say for certain. Some teams might be willing to move down and offer the pick at lesser value than normal. This is a unique draft compared to money, especially at the top. There is an unknown relative to leverage getting these picks signed with no labor agreement. I think there is more emphasis this year on getting players signed at the top. That might hurt the value of the top picks.

Any alterations to the stadium for Year 2?

We viewed last year as the beginning. I spent a lot of money so we could continue to evolve it and put new things in it. There’s a lot of room in that stadium. That will be alive and well. We’ve been pleased with our tours and stepped up our efforts to invite sports and architecture fans to tour it. The whole stadium is a museum and Hall of Fame. So we’ll continue to put more art in it. We want to make it an interesting.

If a guy is the 15th guy on your board but not a position of need, do you have to take him if he’s there at 27?

It depends. What if the 17th guy on your board is also there and he’s a better position of need? So maybe you take a lower position on the board, but it’s so close between the two players you go for the bigger need . Maybe there isn’t that much separating between the two players. People say “You aren’t honoring the board”, but there is a degree of judgment in honoring the board that I don’t believe anyone in this room might see a scenario where you don’t take the 15th best player . Then you get another team calling that wants the 15th player at 27, and they want to give you a 3rd round pick for just moving down a few spots and there’s a group of players there that you like.

New Orleans winning the Superbowl with a backup left tackle. Does that effect your decision.

Yes, and there is talk that Brown might be on the block. But yes, it’s a case in point that now you got a young guy in there who got a chance and he proved himself. Free has enough experience we think has enough skills to to play the left tackle position. We think he’ll be good pass blocking and good at run blocking and blocking on the backside.

Last year you drafted for depth and special teams. Do you still look at that as a philosophy heading into this year?

Because we didn’t get that draft class on the field … an amazing percent of them got hurt … we got basically a college red shirt draft class that are coming into the equation next year to go with what we do in this draft. I do think between these two groups we’ll see an impact on special teams who weren’t able to get on the field last year because of injuries.

Are you saying if you get thorugh this draft without a left tackle or safety you woulnd’t be concerned?

No, I’m not saying that. I realize that next year would be one concern and the future would be another concern. But we can’t be hostage to that. We got to make trades that are available. Ideally we would have players of value to drop to us at positions that make sense.

Miles Austin and Sensabaugh contracts?

Can’t get into that. We want both of them signed long term and to be long term Cowboys. Let me be real clear about that.

 
In summation-"The Cowboys would part with defensive end Marcus Spears, linebacker Bobby Carpenter, wide receiver Sam Hurd, safety Pat Watkins and lineman Cory Procter for the right price. All of them are being shopped around the league."

Of course, we already know that Marion Barber and Patrick Crayton's names have been mentioned.

In any case, the Cowboys are certainly looking to deal.

Everybody knows by now that I like Earl Thomas. There has also been a lot of talk in recent days in regards to Dez Bryant.

I'll say this about Dez: Word is that Jerry really likes him. It's no wonder. With the relationship that Bryant has with Deion Sanders and the fact that Deion will forever have Jerry's ear, it's no mystery.

 
And here's our schedule-

Sun, Sept. 12 @ Washington (NBC) 7:20 PM

Sun, Sept. 19 CHICAGO (FOX) Noon

Sun, Sept. 26 @ Houston (FOX) Noon

Sun, Oct. 3 BYE

Sun, Oct. 10 TENNESSEE (CBS) 3:15 PM

Sun, Oct. 17 @ Minnesota (FOX) 3:15 PM

Mon, Oct. 25 N.Y. GIANTS (ESPN) 7:30 PM

Sun, Oct. 31 JACKSONVILLE (CBS) Noon

Sun, Nov. 7 @ Green Bay (NBC) 7:20 PM

Sun, Nov. 14 @ N.Y. Giants (FOX) 3:15 PM

Sun, Nov. 21 DETROIT (FOX) Noon*

Thu., Nov. 25 NEW ORLEANS (FOX) 3:15 PM

Sun, Dec. 5 @ Indianapolis (Fox) 3:15 PM*

Sun, Dec. 12 PHILADELPHIA (NBC) 7:20 PM*

Sun, Dec. 19 WASHINGTON (FOX) Noon*

Sat, Dec. 25 @ Arizona (NFL NETWORK) 7:30 PM

Sun, Jan. 2 @ Philadelphia (FOX) Noon*

 
The Cowboys were the only team across the league to not sign a free agent this offseason.It's all about the upcoming draft, as I stated a few months ago.
Gee. Maybe we can have a repeat of last year's stellar draft. We could trade down, down, down...accumulate a ton of special teams players. That would be awesome.
I too would be VERY disapointed if we do not come out of this draft with an immediate impact player (at least 1). I would like us to use our picks to trade up on 1 or 2 picks.
Even without injuries, last year's draft was a disaster. We cannot afford to have back-to-back drafts like that. Thursday and Friday are very important days for the future of the franchise. If we don't catch a break or two, we run the risk of having this team stall out, or worse...take a significant step back. Hopefully, Stephen, Jerry and the crew have done their requisite homework.
 
And here's our schedule-Sun, Sept. 12 @ Washington (NBC) 7:20 PM Sun, Sept. 19 CHICAGO (FOX) Noon Sun, Sept. 26 @ Houston (FOX) Noon Sun, Oct. 3 BYE Sun, Oct. 10 TENNESSEE (CBS) 3:15 PM Sun, Oct. 17 @ Minnesota (FOX) 3:15 PM Mon, Oct. 25 N.Y. GIANTS (ESPN) 7:30 PM Sun, Oct. 31 JACKSONVILLE (CBS) Noon Sun, Nov. 7 @ Green Bay (NBC) 7:20 PM Sun, Nov. 14 @ N.Y. Giants (FOX) 3:15 PM Sun, Nov. 21 DETROIT (FOX) Noon* Thu., Nov. 25 NEW ORLEANS (FOX) 3:15 PM Sun, Dec. 5 @ Indianapolis (Fox) 3:15 PM* Sun, Dec. 12 PHILADELPHIA (NBC) 7:20 PM* Sun, Dec. 19 WASHINGTON (FOX) Noon* Sat, Dec. 25 @ Arizona (NFL NETWORK) 7:30 PM Sun, Jan. 2 @ Philadelphia (FOX) Noon*
What a piss-poor home slate. The NFL must hate Jerry.
 
And here's our schedule-Sun, Sept. 12 @ Washington (NBC) 7:20 PM Sun, Sept. 19 CHICAGO (FOX) Noon Sun, Sept. 26 @ Houston (FOX) Noon Sun, Oct. 3 BYE Sun, Oct. 10 TENNESSEE (CBS) 3:15 PM Sun, Oct. 17 @ Minnesota (FOX) 3:15 PM Mon, Oct. 25 N.Y. GIANTS (ESPN) 7:30 PM Sun, Oct. 31 JACKSONVILLE (CBS) Noon Sun, Nov. 7 @ Green Bay (NBC) 7:20 PM Sun, Nov. 14 @ N.Y. Giants (FOX) 3:15 PM Sun, Nov. 21 DETROIT (FOX) Noon* Thu., Nov. 25 NEW ORLEANS (FOX) 3:15 PM Sun, Dec. 5 @ Indianapolis (Fox) 3:15 PM* Sun, Dec. 12 PHILADELPHIA (NBC) 7:20 PM* Sun, Dec. 19 WASHINGTON (FOX) Noon* Sat, Dec. 25 @ Arizona (NFL NETWORK) 7:30 PM Sun, Jan. 2 @ Philadelphia (FOX) Noon*
Wow. New Orleans at Dallas on Thanksgiving. Can't wait.
 
We already knew the teams and the venues... we just didn't know the order.

Now that we do, here come the conspiracy theories.... we're getting a screwing for the later part of our schedule. Sorry, not buying it. If we plan on playing at home for the Superbowl, we'll need to beat most of these teams.

Not happy about the X-mas night game on NFLN... then again, I hate any game on NFLN since I don't subscribe to it.

 
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Thanksgiving vs saintsChristmas night vs cardsI couldn't ask for more. Great thanksgiving game and I get to enjoy cowboys on xmas after family leaves.
Seriously? Between DET, TEN, and JAX...that's terrible. No Houston. No Indy. No Minnesota. No Green Bay.It's awful.
Not sure what you mean. Saints/boys on thanksgiving (not the raiders this year) and get to watch the cowboys in peace on christmas night. Nice stuff.
 
Thanksgiving vs saintsChristmas night vs cardsI couldn't ask for more. Great thanksgiving game and I get to enjoy cowboys on xmas after family leaves.
Seriously? Between DET, TEN, and JAX...that's terrible. No Houston. No Indy. No Minnesota. No Green Bay.It's awful.
Not sure what you mean. Saints/boys on thanksgiving (not the raiders this year) and get to watch the cowboys in peace on christmas night. Nice stuff.
And, that's all she wrote. Premier game overlapped on an already-premier day. Would have been better to put JAX on the Thanksgiving day game and save NO for an isolated Sunday where it would hold it's own.Hard to convince me this home schedule does anything but suck. We are very lucky in a sense to have the Skins, Eagles and Giants (and, yes, the Saints) to make up for the rest of this mess.
 
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I would have put money on us playing the Bears on Thanksgiving.

And Cobalt, we couldn't play Jax on Thanksgiving since it was Detroit's turn to have the AFC game. We had to play an NFC game... it's in the rules.

 
Only really tough team that isnt in our own division is Indy and we play well against them.

At Green Bay should be interesting.

Hate playing the Saints on Thanksgiving...

Arizona on Christmas with no Kurt Warner will be good.

 
I would have put money on us playing the Bears on Thanksgiving.And Cobalt, we couldn't play Jax on Thanksgiving since it was Detroit's turn to have the AFC game. We had to play an NFC game... it's in the rules.
Fine. Then put Chicago in there. It's such a waste of the schedule to have the Saints on a premium date like that.
 
I would have put money on us playing the Bears on Thanksgiving.And Cobalt, we couldn't play Jax on Thanksgiving since it was Detroit's turn to have the AFC game. We had to play an NFC game... it's in the rules.
Fine. Then put Chicago in there. It's such a waste of the schedule to have the Saints on a premium date like that.
I have to agree. The NFL must have taken a bunch of crap for their scheduling of sorry-###-games for us on Thx. (See the last couple of years... vs. Oakland and Seattle.)To further back why I thought it would be Chicago, you already have the Turkey Day audience. Most people don't care what the games are. So put on the blowouts.. it won't hurt the ratings too badly. That said, that Aints / Boys matchup will have me eating early.
 
New Orleans, Indy, Philly, Washington, AZ, Philly to end the season, too?

Ouch.

We better be at least 7-3 by the time we hit that NO game (at worse, 6-4).

 
And here's our schedule-Sun, Sept. 12 @ Washington (NBC) 7:20 PM Sun, Sept. 19 CHICAGO (FOX) Noon Sun, Sept. 26 @ Houston (FOX) Noon Sun, Oct. 3 BYE Sun, Oct. 10 TENNESSEE (CBS) 3:15 PM Sun, Oct. 17 @ Minnesota (FOX) 3:15 PM Mon, Oct. 25 N.Y. GIANTS (ESPN) 7:30 PM Sun, Oct. 31 JACKSONVILLE (CBS) Noon Sun, Nov. 7 @ Green Bay (NBC) 7:20 PM Sun, Nov. 14 @ N.Y. Giants (FOX) 3:15 PM Sun, Nov. 21 DETROIT (FOX) Noon* Thu., Nov. 25 NEW ORLEANS (FOX) 3:15 PM Sun, Dec. 5 @ Indianapolis (Fox) 3:15 PM* Sun, Dec. 12 PHILADELPHIA (NBC) 7:20 PM* Sun, Dec. 19 WASHINGTON (FOX) Noon* Sat, Dec. 25 @ Arizona (NFL NETWORK) 7:30 PM Sun, Jan. 2 @ Philadelphia (FOX) Noon*
I don't know what the problem is. I'm extremely pleased with the schedule.Only two back-to-back games on the road-twice. No "three-in-a-row." Only one "real" potentially bad weather game, that being at Philly to close the season. So be it.The Giants will be the real opponent in this division this year, and those games are played mid-season. Love it.In case anybody hasn't noticed, the Eagles are in a full rebuilding mode. Thus, the league allowing them the entire season to get it together before facing the Cowboys, Dec. 12th and Jan. 2nd. They'll need all the time they can get.Washington? Whatever. They've been trying to get it together for two decades now. Like McNabb is really the answer to their prayers. Give me a break. At Arizona on Christmas? Are you kidding me? The Cowboys have a better fan base there than the Cardinals do, especially now with Kurt Warner gone. We don't even know who their QB will be at that point.I couldn't be happier with the layout of this schedule. At home against the Lions prior to Thanksgiving vs. the Saints.There's another thing to be thankful for right there, not to mention the 10 day stretch prior to traveling to Indy.This is a beautiful schedule compared to the last few years. Lock it in. I'm taking it as it is.Thank you NFL. :popcorn: I'm ready to fasten the chinstrap. :rolleyes: It's "game-on!"
 
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New Orleans, Indy, Philly, Washington, AZ, Philly to end the season, too? Ouch.We better be at least 7-3 by the time we hit that NO game (at worse, 6-4).
Don't forget to check out the stretch runs for the Giants and Eagles. Not too pleasant either. I'd have included the Redskins..but.... :D
 
New Orleans, Indy, Philly, Washington, AZ, Philly to end the season, too? Ouch.We better be at least 7-3 by the time we hit that NO game (at worse, 6-4).
Don't forget to check out the stretch runs for the Giants and Eagles. Not too pleasant either. I'd have included the Redskins..but.... :D
Yeah, didn't see that.And, to be honest, I still haven't wrapped my head around the fact that McNabb and Westbrook are gone. So, from a playoff run perspective, that final stretch isn't nearly as bad as I originally thought.It's only fair that Indy gets us in their dome, given that we got to beat them several years ago at The Old Tex. Plus, I get to visit my buddy and go to Reliant in September.Alright. It's a crap home slate, but I'll live with it.
 
New Orleans, Indy, Philly, Washington, AZ, Philly to end the season, too? Ouch.We better be at least 7-3 by the time we hit that NO game (at worse, 6-4).
Don't forget to check out the stretch runs for the Giants and Eagles. Not too pleasant either. I'd have included the Redskins..but.... :D
Yeah, didn't see that.And, to be honest, I still haven't wrapped my head around the fact that McNabb and Westbrook are gone. So, from a playoff run perspective, that final stretch isn't nearly as bad as I originally thought.It's only fair that Indy gets us in their dome, given that we got to beat them several years ago at The Old Tex. Plus, I get to visit my buddy and go to Reliant in September.Alright. It's a crap home slate, but I'll live with it.
The home slate is not selective. It's determined solely by the results of the previous season.It's a formula that is based on who finishes where in their division and what their record was.There is no deciding factor as to who plays at home or away. The formula dictates it.
 
New Orleans, Indy, Philly, Washington, AZ, Philly to end the season, too?

Ouch.

We better be at least 7-3 by the time we hit that NO game (at worse, 6-4).
Don't forget to check out the stretch runs for the Giants and Eagles. Not too pleasant either. I'd have included the Redskins..but.... :D
Yeah, didn't see that.And, to be honest, I still haven't wrapped my head around the fact that McNabb and Westbrook are gone. So, from a playoff run perspective, that final stretch isn't nearly as bad as I originally thought.

It's only fair that Indy gets us in their dome, given that we got to beat them several years ago at The Old Tex. Plus, I get to visit my buddy and go to Reliant in September.

Alright. It's a crap home slate, but I'll live with it.
No worries, I'll be here to remind you.So, you're looking at going to the H-Town game? I have a group that I meet with for a home game every year. I'm hoping that we pick the Giants MNF game.... that way I can treat my best friend (Giants fan) to a little bit of Texas hospitality since he swears he'll go. He gets me tix to the Giants/Boys games in the Meadowlands every year, so I owe him one.

 
New Orleans, Indy, Philly, Washington, AZ, Philly to end the season, too? Ouch.We better be at least 7-3 by the time we hit that NO game (at worse, 6-4).
Don't forget to check out the stretch runs for the Giants and Eagles. Not too pleasant either. I'd have included the Redskins..but.... :D
Yeah, didn't see that.And, to be honest, I still haven't wrapped my head around the fact that McNabb and Westbrook are gone. So, from a playoff run perspective, that final stretch isn't nearly as bad as I originally thought.It's only fair that Indy gets us in their dome, given that we got to beat them several years ago at The Old Tex. Plus, I get to visit my buddy and go to Reliant in September.Alright. It's a crap home slate, but I'll live with it.
The home slate is not selective. It's determined solely by the results of the previous season.It's a formula that is based on who finishes where in their division and what their record was.There is no deciding factor as to who plays at home or away. The formula dictates it.
Whatevs. I think Goodell did this purposely. :bye:
 
At least we get the Vikings back in their house. Can't wait for Dallas to rain some payback down on them in front of their home crowd.

 
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Rick Gosselin: Jerry Jones could trade up for Dez Bryant

08:56 PM CDT on Tuesday, April 20, 2010

Dallas Morning News Cowboys writer Rick Gosselin discussed the Cowboys and the upcoming NFL draft on Tuesday. Here are some highlights:

Do you think Jerry Jones is going to pull any deals during the first round of the draft? If the Cowboys make a draft day deal, I think it will be to go up in the first round to get Dez Bryant. He's sliding. If the slide reaches 20, I think Jerry would be willing to deal. It would be too expensive to move into the teens. I think there are a lot of teams in the first round looking to trade down and it should be fairly easy to find a partner in a swap.

Bryant is a Top 10 talent who could land in the 20s. Just like Randy Moss -- and Jerry still regrets letting Moss slip through his fingers. I think you'll see Jerry at his aggressive best if Bryant slides into the 20s.

The rest of it can be found here-

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw....269601dff.html

 
Year-to-year strength of schedule doesn't mean squat. There's too much turnover in the league to know how good anybody will be in '10.

 
Cowboys at the Skins to open the season. Has a Starting QB ever lost three consecutive games to the same team? Because Donovan McNabb is about to.

 
Year-to-year strength of schedule doesn't mean squat. There's too much turnover in the league to know how good anybody will be in '10.
It tends to be a better predictor of the first 4 games, but that's it. The more important thing is travel distances, and frequencies plus an eye to weather. This schedule has very few of those concerns.
 
Ok it's time to go on the record with some ideas of what will happen. I welcome the rest of you doing the same.

I started this off-season with the expectations we would likely draft at our slotted spots, draft BPA with our team needs in mind. With the lack of ANY Free Agent activity I have got to think Jerry will do something in this coming draft. Superbowl is in Dallas and the draft is in Prime Time.

I will post what I think might happen and a few players to watch for. I'm not always right, but hit on a few every year. I had the Cowboys drafting both of the Williams boys last draft.

Without further ado:

-Dallas will trade up to pick in the 16-21 range. The ONLY 2 possible targets in this case will be Earl Thomas and the other being Dez. Personally if we are going to trade away picks I want the cleaner player and at a NEED position. Gimme Earl Thomas all day. Dez wouldn't shock me, passing on Moss still eats Jerry to this day. I really could see us using next year's first round pick to possible get a second first found pick THIS year. So......

Earl Thomas or Dez Bryant (15-21 range) Our first next year + a 3rd/4th should get it done.

and

at 27 we take one of: Iupati, Pouncey, Odrick

-Dallas will likely move some roster players for additional picks and ammunition to move up. I am willling to bet 2 of the following players will not be Cowboys next Monday. This includes: Spears, Bennett, Barber, Crayton, or Carpenter.

-Dallas trades a 2nd or Bennett to Baltimore for Gaither.

Here are other players I feel we might take:

Morgan Bennett (2nd)

Vlad Ducasse (2nd)

Brandon Spikes (3rd)

Jerome Murphy (3rd)

Clay Harbour (4/5rd)

Al Woods -later

AJ Jefferson-later

***I also would not be shocked to see Dallas take another QB in rounds 2/3/4. We have no depth behind Romo and the kid we took last year has been a disapointment to the coaching staff. I don't know who, but think it might happen. Tony Pike and Dan Lefevour are my best guesses.

 
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I think the moving up stuff is smoke screen:

Stephen Jones Interview:

Is there a circumstance the club would trade up?

It’s unlikely, but there are scenarios it could make sense. You’re trying to get a pick that matches the value in your board. The reason we’re not gun-ho about moving up this year is we think the draft is very deep and you can get a good player by just sitting tight and staying where you are. In some cases when you sit at 27 you might not have a first round caliber player in your draft. We see 23 players in this draft who are true 1st round talents. In the past that number has been as low as 18.

It’s possible one of those 23 players there is at your selection, but you may not have any need there at all. Like the TE Greshem. So do you think that’s an opportunity to move down?

We certainly do. It’s a deep draft and there are players in the 2nd round that could be there that could be better value. But if you see a player you had penciled in as a high value that falls to you at 27 you got to take him and not get greedy.

You use a tactic a lot of teams don’t use because it involves juggling several balls in the air at once. You’ve done the “trade down and then trade back up” tactic. It’s a good draft for that.

It’s a good chance we could be moving. We did that with Mike Jenkins.

This is a tough year financially with no CBA in place. A lot of veteran players released already. After this draft if needs have been filled could we see another round of cuts?

It’s not out of the question. I would say we’ve done most of our moving already, and our players are pretty safe unless they are beaten out by a younger player in camp. We had 4 draft picks from last year that never played because of injury that are now competing for spots. But I don’t see a wave of cuts.

Buehler wasn’t deemed ready to kick field goals in November last year. What has changed between then and now?

We felt he needed an offseason to hone in his field goal kicking skills. We didn’t want him to work on it last year because we thought we had a great kicker in Folk.

Houston has two really good veterans in Rackers and Kris Brown. As camp goes on and one of those guys are available, is that your safety net?

The safety net is always to get a veteran at any position, but if we didn’t feel like Buehler we would bring in a kicker now and not wait.

You had 4 specialists activated every Sunday last year between the two kickers, a punter and a snapper . If you feel good about Buehler doing both field goals and kickoffs does that open up a roster position for a guy who just returns kicks?

A possibility. It’s a roster strain to carry two kickers, and to eliminate that allows a roster spot for a kick returner.

You don’t have a 5th rounder, would you like to pick up one up in a deal to make this a complete draft?

Sure, we’re in the mode right now to acquire picks. Either through manuvering in the draft or players for picks.

Dez Bryant: talent wise people say he is a Top 10 talent but he’s had some off field problems. Some teams have even taken him off their board. Is he still on your board?

Yes he is.

Does his problems concern you?

That’s why we had him in, to work through all these issues. No one at any level has done everything just right. His character is not in question here. He’s a good person and doesn’t have any issues you typically run into …….. with drinking or recreational problems. We’ve got to know him personally and we don’t see any reason to take him off the board.

So you don’t worry about criminal problems, but you might be concerned he’s a high maintenance player?

I don’t think so. I wouldn’t call him that.

Is he the best kick returner on your board?

He’s right there. You got to throw Spiller up there. He’s one of the top 2 or 3 guys.

I take it Miles Austin and Felix won’t be used next year as returners?

I don’t know if you can say that about Felix. It all boils down to risk vs. reward. He’s a dynamic kick returner and a dynamic player on offense. So it will depend on the risk involved.

Norm

Cowboys probably won’t draft FS at 27. They don’t like Mays and will pass on him, and they think Allen and Burnett are reaches there. They also don’t think any of the offensive tackles there are better than what they have. Even though Jerry has said he’s happy at WR, look at all the high profile WR prospects they’ve brought to the Ranch for interviews and workouts. They brought every local WR in for Dallas day. They’ve put a lot of work into investigating that position, look for them to address WR by Round 3 at the latest. The value at #27 may be defensive line, which would free them up to trade Spears later in the draft for maybe a 5th round pick. If I were a betting man, I would bet on a deal down. The Cowboys might find themselves in a hole in the draft. The club feels there are 23 first round picks in the draft , there is a chance all 23 are gone by 27 or one is left in a position you don’t need. It wouldn’t surprise me if the Cowboys make multiple deals in the 1st and 2nd round that gets them two 2nd rounders, an extra 3rd and a 5th. There are a lot of teams that believe the early 2nd to the late 3rd is firm with really good football players. There might be 35 with 2nd round ability and 38 with 3rd round ability.

JJT

I didn’t believe anything Jerry said yesterday. I’m not mad at him though, he’s supposed to lie at these things. He’s not completely happy with his WRs. He would like to add one, but he’s probably not going to reach for one. If Dez Bryant is there at 20 he’ll start hitting the phones trying to move up, but he can’t announce that to everyone. Reporters need quotes and TV guys need sound bites for their jobs, but we understand the dance that is going on.

 
Great stuff, BG!

Stephen Jones comments are really interesting and kind of match what I've been thinking. The 23 first round grades versus 25 previously reported is interesting. I suspect Mays is 1 of the 2 that may have been downgraded.

I can see them moving up and using next year's first to do so. Similarly, if value dries up, move back and accumulate 2/3 round picks this year where the value seems to be.

I think somehow Morgan Burnett ends up getting drafted. A WR in the 3rd too, if we don't get Dez.

We'll know more in 24-48 hours.

 
Response to Bankeryguy's post

Ok it's time to go on the record with some ideas of what will happen. I welcome the rest of you doing the same.

I started this off-season with the expectations we would likely draft at our slotted spots, draft BPA with our team needs in mind. With the lack of ANY Free Agent activity I have got to think Jerry will do something in this coming draft. Superbowl is in Dallas and the draft is in Prime Time.

I will post what I think might happen and a few players to watch for. I'm not always right, but hit on a few every year. I had the Cowboys drafting both of the Williams boys last draft.

Nice predictions there.

Without further ado:

-Dallas will trade up to pick in the 16-21 range. The ONLY 2 possible targets in this case will be Earl Thomas and the other being Dez. Personally if we are going to trade away picks I want the cleaner player and at a NEED position. Gimme Earl Thomas all day. Dez wouldn't shock me, passing on Moss still eats Jerry to this day. I really could see us using next year's first round pick to possible get a second first found pick THIS year. So......

Earl Thomas or Dez Bryant (15-21 range) Our first next year + a 3rd/4th should get it done.

and

at 27 we take one of: Iupati, Pouncey, Odrick

Nice thought but a future year's first round pick isn't worth more than a 2nd round pick in this year's draft. Add to it that ours is probably expected to be a late 1st and I don't see that being enough. I have heard alot of talk about Dallas trading up with Miami. Possibly using their 27th pick and a player. I could see that happening but I think it is far more likely that we end up trading back a few spots.

-Dallas will likely move some roster players for additional picks and ammunition to move up. I am willling to bet 2 of the following players will not be Cowboys next Monday. This includes: Spears, Bennett, Barber, Crayton, or Carpenter.

I could see that.

-Dallas trades a 2nd or Bennett to Baltimore for Gaither.

I don't see that happening.

Here are other players I feel we might take:

Morgan Bennett (2nd)

Vlad Ducasse (2nd) I like this one

Brandon Spikes (3rd) I like this one too. In fact I wouldn't be shocked to see us take a Linebacker in the first round if say Witherspoon is there.

Jerome Murphy (3rd)

Clay Harbour (4/5rd)

Al Woods -later

AJ Jefferson-later

***I also would not be shocked to see Dallas take another QB in rounds 2/3/4. We have no depth behind Romo and the kid we took last year has been a disapointment to the coaching staff. I don't know who, but think it might happen. Tony Pike and Dan Lefevour are my best guesses.

Did Kitna get waived?

Below are the guys that have visited Valley Ranch. We usually take guys that have visited.

The national visitors (in no particular order):

LSU S Chad Jones

South Florida S Nate Allen

Florida C Maurkice Pouncey

Ole Miss OL John Jerry

Missouri State TE Clay Harbor.

Illinois WR Arrelious Benn

UMass OT Vladimir Ducasse

Indiana (Pa.) DB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah

Cal DE Tyson Alualu

Oklahoma State WR Dez Bryant

Penn State LB Sean Lee

Penn State LB Navarro Bowman

LSU WR Brandon LaFell

Kentucky FB John Conner

Idaho OG Mike Iupati

Penn State DE Jared Odrick

Wake Forest CB Brandon Ghee

Georgia Tech S Morgan Burnett

Ohio University WR Taylor Price

USC S Taylor Mays

Maryland OT Bruce Campbell

Rutgers CB Devin McCourty

The Dallas Day visitors (in no particular order):

SMU WR Emmanuel Sanders

SMU RB Shawnbrey McNeal

SMU LB Chase Kennemer

SMU DB Bryan McCann

Kansas WR Dezmon Briscoe (Cedar Hill)

UCLA LB Kyle Bosworth (Plano West)

UCLA LB Korey Bosworth (Plano West)

Texas A&M S Jordan Pugh (Plano West)

Baylor C J.D. Walton (Allen)

Oklahoma CB Brian Jackson (DeSoto)

Oklahoma DT DeMarcus Granger (Kimball)

Oklahoma WR Adron Tennell (Irving)

Arizona S Corey Hall (DeSoto)

Iowa State C/G Reggie Stephens (Rowlett)

TCU OT Nic Richmond

TCU CB Rafael Priest

TCU LS Clint Gresham

TCU DE Jerry Hughes

Miami (Oh.) QB Daniel Raudabaugh (Coppell)

Texas OT Adam Ulatoski (Southlake Caroll)

 
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We lost in the playoffs last year because we couldn't pass protect well enough to beat the Vikings and on defense didn't hit Farve enough (like the Saints did).

I thought last year we were excellent in stopping the run.

Jerry Jones said releasing Flo was all about Doug Free. I think Doug Free will be solid but last year the Cowobys were one of the least injured teams in the NFL. If they aren't as fortunate, they'll be in big trouble. I'm just a firm believer in building within the trenches. You can never have too many quality offensive linemen and I know we need a safety.

Personally, I would be very disappointed if they moved up in the draft to get a WR. I don't care how sexy that pick is, you do not win SB's because of WR's. Randy Moss is great but if he needs a reminder, someone should tell him that Randy Moss has won ZERO championships. The 2nd best WR in our time is Terell Owens, he's won ZERO championships.

Do not draft a WR in the first, do not trade up or anything else to draft a WR in the first. Do not trade your 1st and 3rd round picks for a WR, you can get WR's if you really need them. They could have got Brandon Marshall for two 2nd's, they could sign Terell Owens by just paying him some money....(I'm not saying do that, I'm just pointing out year in and year out you can pay to get a WR that you know is good and can step in and play now).

I'd focus in on 2 or 3 positions and take the best player available. If all of those guys are off the board for us, I'd trade back. I agree with Cobalt that if we don't handle this draft smartly, it won't be long before this team is on the downslope again. I'm tired of hearing that we need to win this year and there's no thinking of long term. Rookies think like that, this is the Dallas Cowboys. We've had runs of the Cowboys making the playoffs 18 straight times, you don't sell the farm to try and win 1 year and forget about everything else.

It would be very very cool and exciting if the Cowboys are playing in the SB at home. However, it would also be very very cool if we're good for the next 10 years. The NFL is a lot more fun for us when the Cowboys are competing for and in the playoffs, I'd like to keep it that way. Picking up Dez is a step backwards, I'm going to say that right now.

 
All that crap about moving up to draft Dez Bryant is a joke. I can't believe anybody actually buys that or thinks it's feasible. It's a scare tactic. They'll be tickled to death if Benn or Shipley is sitting there for them at 59.

Only about 25 of the guys picked in the 1st round will amount to squat, anyway.

 
Yeah, I just can't see a move up to get Dez. If he falls, he falls. So be it. If they can find a way to move up and shed Tellus, well I'd change my tun a little bit.

 
Pure conjecture, but I think TE Bennett and our 27 go to MIA (plus other considerations) for their 12. We take Earl Thomas.

Makes too much sense for both sides.

 
cobalt_27 said:
Pure conjecture, but I think TE Bennett and our 27 go to MIA (plus other considerations) for their 12. We take Earl Thomas.Makes too much sense for both sides.
Names I heard today being tossed around in relation to Miami were Marcus Spears (who Parcells always liked), Bennett and Barber. Not necessarily all of them, but all of them are in the mix as of today.
 

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