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I went Friday before last for the first time in over a year and shot a +8 or so (really wasn't seriously keeping score) and got a contact high too.
Nice work Fro!

Sweet. You guys have an Ace Pot?After playing since 1995, I had my first Ace in mixed doubles league night on Golden Gate Disc Golf Course. Hole #2 216 ft slight up hill. Threw my Classic Roc with a slight hyzer. Nothing but chains. Funny thing was it was the second Ace of the round in our foursome as we started on the back 9.
BOOM!'Fullback Fro said:After playing since 1995, I had my first Ace in mixed doubles league night on Golden Gate Disc Golf Course. Hole #2 216 ft slight up hill. Threw my Classic Roc with a slight hyzer. Nothing but chains. Funny thing was it was the second Ace of the round in our foursome as we started on the back 9.
For the weekly handicapped round Sunday morning there is an Ace Pot, but not in on tues dubs. Though it is customary for players in your group to give you $5 and then all players after round to give you $1. I ended up getting around $35 for it. Pretty sweet.'Marvin said:Sweet. You guys have an Ace Pot?'Fullback Fro said:After playing since 1995, I had my first Ace in mixed doubles league night on Golden Gate Disc Golf Course. Hole #2 216 ft slight up hill. Threw my Classic Roc with a slight hyzer. Nothing but chains. Funny thing was it was the second Ace of the round in our foursome as we started on the back 9.
Nice. We had (maybe still have) an Ace Pot for Wed doubles. I don't think it was ever more than $50. We also had the customary 'give the guy a buck' thing as well but so many of the guys in our league were dead-beats and half-homeless it didn't always happen.For the weekly handicapped round Sunday morning there is an Ace Pot, but not in on tues dubs. Though it is customary for players in your group to give you $5 and then all players after round to give you $1. I ended up getting around $35 for it. Pretty sweet.'Marvin said:Sweet. You guys have an Ace Pot?'Fullback Fro said:After playing since 1995, I had my first Ace in mixed doubles league night on Golden Gate Disc Golf Course. Hole #2 216 ft slight up hill. Threw my Classic Roc with a slight hyzer. Nothing but chains. Funny thing was it was the second Ace of the round in our foursome as we started on the back 9.
Very nice. I really like the SF course. Looking forward to playing Delaveaga this weekend for the first time.'Fullback Fro said:After playing since 1995, I had my first Ace in mixed doubles league night on Golden Gate Disc Golf Course. Hole #2 216 ft slight up hill. Threw my Classic Roc with a slight hyzer. Nothing but chains. Funny thing was it was the second Ace of the round in our foursome as we started on the back 9.
You'll love it. Its the Pebble Beach of Cali Disc Golfing. Watch out for the Poison Oak. Wear pants and bring the special wipes for post round. That stuff eats me alive.Very nice. I really like the SF course. Looking forward to playing Delaveaga this weekend for the first time.'Fullback Fro said:After playing since 1995, I had my first Ace in mixed doubles league night on Golden Gate Disc Golf Course. Hole #2 216 ft slight up hill. Threw my Classic Roc with a slight hyzer. Nothing but chains. Funny thing was it was the second Ace of the round in our foursome as we started on the back 9.
This is pretty good advice. I see too many new players throwing Destroyers. I think the Gazelle is one of the best discs to learn how to throw with (not that I am very good myself).Best advice I can give anyone who is just starting out... and assuming you want to get better... is to ditch all your high speed drivers. "omg its speed 13 that means i can throw it far", is only correct if you have the proper form and arm strength already to use it. Stick with a putter (doesn't matter which one, just the one that feels best) and either the Shark/Mako/Roc by Innova, or the Buzz by Discraft as your discs, again whichever feels better in your hand. After you can get the midrange consistently out to 200'+, pickup a leopard/teebird/gazelle/TL fairway driver. and don't get anything faster till you can get it out 300'+. Those discs specifically the putter and the midranges will teach you more about how to throw, good form, how to shape lines, and the various things discs can do then any of the high speed drivers.its not sexy, but just like regular golf, you'll see your scores plummet more from becoming a better putter, rather than being able to throw 30' farther.
This is pretty good advice. I see too many new players throwing Destroyers. I think the Gazelle is one of the best discs to learn how to throw with (not that I am very good myself).Best advice I can give anyone who is just starting out... and assuming you want to get better... is to ditch all your high speed drivers. "omg its speed 13 that means i can throw it far", is only correct if you have the proper form and arm strength already to use it. Stick with a putter (doesn't matter which one, just the one that feels best) and either the Shark/Mako/Roc by Innova, or the Buzz by Discraft as your discs, again whichever feels better in your hand. After you can get the midrange consistently out to 200'+, pickup a leopard/teebird/gazelle/TL fairway driver. and don't get anything faster till you can get it out 300'+. Those discs specifically the putter and the midranges will teach you more about how to throw, good form, how to shape lines, and the various things discs can do then any of the high speed drivers.its not sexy, but just like regular golf, you'll see your scores plummet more from becoming a better putter, rather than being able to throw 30' farther.
Although I will say that I had a hard time throwing accurate drives with those 6 and 7 speed drivers when I first started. Not sure what it was but the rest of my game was progressing fine but I was way inconsistent when it came to putting drives where I wanted them. I picked up a Valk and it was perfect.What do you do for headwind shots or long hyzers? Are you able to keep the TL from turning over? If my only driver was a TL here in the midwest I'd be screwed on windy days.Definitely agree with your general point though. I threw nothing but a viking (speed 9) off the tee for the first 18 months or so.playing for 2-3 years, most actively in the last 16months, and hit up over 20 courses in NC.my bag looks like the following.DX Aviar P&A (170ish)Champ Aviar P&A (175ish)DX Roc (175)DX Roc (176)Z Buzzz SS (178)Cryztal Z Buzzz (176)Star TL (167)I don't throw anything over Speed 7 that's the TL. Can get any of the midrange out 300' or so. Can push the TL out 400' on a good day. (field distances)Best advice I can give anyone who is just starting out... and assuming you want to get better... is to ditch all your high speed drivers. "omg its speed 13 that means i can throw it far", is only correct if you have the proper form and arm strength already to use it. Stick with a putter (doesn't matter which one, just the one that feels best) and either the Shark/Mako/Roc by Innova, or the Buzz by Discraft as your discs, again whichever feels better in your hand. After you can get the midrange consistently out to 200'+, pickup a leopard/teebird/gazelle/TL fairway driver. and don't get anything faster till you can get it out 300'+. Those discs specifically the putter and the midranges will teach you more about how to throw, good form, how to shape lines, and the various things discs can do then any of the high speed drivers.its not sexy, but just like regular golf, you'll see your scores plummet more from becoming a better putter, rather than being able to throw 30' farther.
headwind... probably my cryztal z buzzz? In NC... 90% of our dg holes are moderately wooded, to very wooded. wind is only even potentially an issue on maybe 10% of our holes to begin with, and then its only an issue if its really windy. I don't tailor my bag for wind really. so good news, we don't have to worry about wind. bad news, base plastic gets eaten up from hitting all the trees.for long hyzers either the cryztal buzzz or the TL work fine. there's a hole at a local course thats 288 slightly uphill and requires a 25ish ft hyzer as brush comes out shortly after the tee to force that shot... i throw the crystal buzz there and usually end up with a 15-20ft putt for bird.What do you do for headwind shots or long hyzers? Are you able to keep the TL from turning over? If my only driver was a TL here in the midwest I'd be screwed on windy days.Definitely agree with your general point though. I threw nothing but a viking (speed 9) off the tee for the first 18 months or so.playing for 2-3 years, most actively in the last 16months, and hit up over 20 courses in NC.
my bag looks like the following.
DX Aviar P&A (170ish)
Champ Aviar P&A (175ish)
DX Roc (175)
DX Roc (176)
Z Buzzz SS (178)
Cryztal Z Buzzz (176)
Star TL (167)
I don't throw anything over Speed 7 that's the TL. Can get any of the midrange out 300' or so. Can push the TL out 400' on a good day. (field distances)
Best advice I can give anyone who is just starting out... and assuming you want to get better... is to ditch all your high speed drivers. "omg its speed 13 that means i can throw it far", is only correct if you have the proper form and arm strength already to use it. Stick with a putter (doesn't matter which one, just the one that feels best) and either the Shark/Mako/Roc by Innova, or the Buzz by Discraft as your discs, again whichever feels better in your hand. After you can get the midrange consistently out to 200'+, pickup a leopard/teebird/gazelle/TL fairway driver. and don't get anything faster till you can get it out 300'+. Those discs specifically the putter and the midranges will teach you more about how to throw, good form, how to shape lines, and the various things discs can do then any of the high speed drivers.
its not sexy, but just like regular golf, you'll see your scores plummet more from becoming a better putter, rather than being able to throw 30' farther.
FANTASTIC advice in this thread, anborn!headwind... probably my cryztal z buzzz? In NC... 90% of our dg holes are moderately wooded, to very wooded. wind is only even potentially an issue on maybe 10% of our holes to begin with, and then its only an issue if its really windy. I don't tailor my bag for wind really. so good news, we don't have to worry about wind. bad news, base plastic gets eaten up from hitting all the trees.for long hyzers either the cryztal buzzz or the TL work fine. there's a hole at a local course thats 288 slightly uphill and requires a 25ish ft hyzer as brush comes out shortly after the tee to force that shot... i throw the crystal buzz there and usually end up with a 15-20ft putt for bird.What do you do for headwind shots or long hyzers? Are you able to keep the TL from turning over? If my only driver was a TL here in the midwest I'd be screwed on windy days.Definitely agree with your general point though. I threw nothing but a viking (speed 9) off the tee for the first 18 months or so.playing for 2-3 years, most actively in the last 16months, and hit up over 20 courses in NC.
my bag looks like the following.
DX Aviar P&A (170ish)
Champ Aviar P&A (175ish)
DX Roc (175)
DX Roc (176)
Z Buzzz SS (178)
Cryztal Z Buzzz (176)
Star TL (167)
I don't throw anything over Speed 7 that's the TL. Can get any of the midrange out 300' or so. Can push the TL out 400' on a good day. (field distances)
Best advice I can give anyone who is just starting out... and assuming you want to get better... is to ditch all your high speed drivers. "omg its speed 13 that means i can throw it far", is only correct if you have the proper form and arm strength already to use it. Stick with a putter (doesn't matter which one, just the one that feels best) and either the Shark/Mako/Roc by Innova, or the Buzz by Discraft as your discs, again whichever feels better in your hand. After you can get the midrange consistently out to 200'+, pickup a leopard/teebird/gazelle/TL fairway driver. and don't get anything faster till you can get it out 300'+. Those discs specifically the putter and the midranges will teach you more about how to throw, good form, how to shape lines, and the various things discs can do then any of the high speed drivers.
its not sexy, but just like regular golf, you'll see your scores plummet more from becoming a better putter, rather than being able to throw 30' farther.
i haven't quite gotten to the point where my TL will really turnover. occasionally when I really rip into it well it will turnover slightly but not so much that it won't come back. If I ever get to the point where I'm throwing hard enough to do that consistently, I'll switch over to champ tbirds or move to something like the orc or starfire/SL.
I have and am experiencing much the same thing right now. 2 years ago I almost only played the shortest course in the area mainly cause its also the most convenient. its basically a pitch/putt course you can play exclusively with a putter, or a putter and a mid. no hole over 300, and only 2 holes over 250. back in the day i would regularly shoot -4, with my personal record of -8. After moving away from that course and playing mostly other longer courses, and going from throwing 220-230 to adding 100ft to my drives... i went and started playing back there. first two rounds there? +6 and +7. unreal. touch of the mid/short game was gone. it took 6-7 rounds to rediscover negative numbers there.I think it comes from (re)learning the timing of your throw when powering down. its a different feel than letting em rip. so you used to throw 230' at 90%-100%. but now you hit 230' at 60%. so once you learn the mechanics of longer throws, it forces you to almost relearn the mechanics of mid-range touch at the same time. that and you start throwing your putter alot more for approaches. at least that's my theory.FANTASTIC advice in this thread, anborn!![]()
While my tee shots are better than ever, I seemed to have lost my mojo/touch to my approach game now. HIGHLY frustrating! Shots I could park with my eyes closed I'm now leaving 20-25' away. <snip>
+1. finding a disc that fits your game that you develop a comfort level with is a great feeling. i've never picked up a mako, i've only heard good things about it.FWIW, my Mako is probably my new favorite disc Anbo. I haven't played in a couple weeks, but the times I have been out it has been money. It seems like it just goes where I want it. I seem to be able to grip it better than my Roc (it's got maybe a slightly thicker rim?) so it's much more consistent.
after work on the 6th i'm available. drop me a pm if ya want to get a round in.If there are any Nashville players, I'll be there on the 17th if you want to get a round in. I also see that anborn is in Raleigh- I'll be there on June 5th/6th if you're interested.
Hey anborn!My approach "mojo" seems to be coming back...thank goodness! I think for me, the trick was forcibly keeping my head down about a half-second longer on my release. I think once I started missing some approaches this Spring, it "snowballed" on me because I was looking up a bit sooner after my release to see if I threw it properly or not. That bit of quickly looking up screwed with my form. But when I hit the reset button, slowed my release down a bit, and forced myself to keep my head down even longer than I used to, everything came back into alignment. ~80% of my approaches landing within 20' of the basket from 175' and in...which leads to a one-putt about 90% of the time when my putting is on like it should be.I have and am experiencing much the same thing right now. 2 years ago I almost only played the shortest course in the area mainly cause its also the most convenient. its basically a pitch/putt course you can play exclusively with a putter, or a putter and a mid. no hole over 300, and only 2 holes over 250. back in the day i would regularly shoot -4, with my personal record of -8. After moving away from that course and playing mostly other longer courses, and going from throwing 220-230 to adding 100ft to my drives... i went and started playing back there. first two rounds there? +6 and +7. unreal. touch of the mid/short game was gone. it took 6-7 rounds to rediscover negative numbers there.I think it comes from (re)learning the timing of your throw when powering down. its a different feel than letting em rip. so you used to throw 230' at 90%-100%. but now you hit 230' at 60%. so once you learn the mechanics of longer throws, it forces you to almost relearn the mechanics of mid-range touch at the same time. that and you start throwing your putter alot more for approaches. at least that's my theory.FANTASTIC advice in this thread, anborn!![]()
While my tee shots are better than ever, I seemed to have lost my mojo/touch to my approach game now. HIGHLY frustrating! Shots I could park with my eyes closed I'm now leaving 20-25' away. <snip>
I guess no one in here plays in that area. You'll have to let us know how those courses are. I would love to get some rounds in when I'm back visiting family. Play them all before I get back and tell me which ones are worth it. TIA.Can anyone comment on any of these? I'm interested in giving this a go around DC and Bluemont would definitely be the most convenient, but I get the impression it might not be the best layout? Bluemont Park Arlington, VA 6 miles McLean Central Park McLean, VA 11 miles Giles Run @ Laurel Hill Park Lorton, VA 12 miles Marshmallow Mountain McLean, VA 14 miles Burke Lake Park Fairfax Station, VA 15 miles Calvert Road Park College Park, MD 15 miles
Dude!Got my second Ace ever on the same hole in a different pin position. Hole #2 GG Disc Golf Course, C Pin Position. That's zero Aces since 1995, then two in month. CrazyThrew a Buzz on a tight hyzer line. Playing with two dudes. Both gave me $5. :cling:
One thing I have learned is that less power and better form produce longer distance. My guess is you are trying to throw you drivers too hard or you are not delivering enough snap/spin to release a drive on plane. You are probably not trying to throw your mids as hard and they are released correctly therefor max distance.I have started throwing my mids way more than I ever used to and getting longer distances than I used to with my old drivers. I think I am relearning the game the way it was meant to be played. Focus on snap more than arm speed.Went to the park to work on my drives. I have 12 driversand two mids (Buzz and Aurora). My mids were besting most of my drivers.
I lost a pink zWasp in the creek on hole 12 @ Creekside on April 20th... 2011. I got the most random emails about that disc yesterday. I find this whole thing both bizarre and hilarious at the same time.First Email:There is a course nearby called Creekside in Camp Hill, PA. I really like the course but it is right along the Conodoguinet creek. So far I've thrown 2 discs in the creek. I left one go. I got the other one out and got soaked up to my sac in the process while wearing jeans and boots. I had the 'yanks' that day and was just yankin to the right on my drives and sailed one in the creek. I've almost lost a few others. I really like the course but it is just too risky. I doubt I'll be playing there much.
Second Email:Subject: I have your frisbee!
From: Sky
To: Me
It is currently on a cross country post-grad rock climbing trip being used as a plate. This is your mid-range driver in a Colorado parking lot! Link to photo: http://goo.gl/Tr18N
Third Email:Subject: I have your frisbee: #2
From: Sky
To: Me
Me and your mid ranger driver are in New Mexico enjoying the view and heading towards Texas! link to photo #2: http://goo.gl/hXgcw
This is fun!I congratulated her, wished her well on her trip, and asked for more photos... I wonder if I will get my disc back at some point?!?Subject: #3
From: Sky
To: me
Me and the plate/frisbee are replacing a broken water bottle and faulty (SCARY!) belay devices in Dallas, TX today! Link to Photo #3: http://goo.gl/088tM
yep, name and phone# too.I want my discs back when I lose them.you wrote your email address on the bottom of the disc? Last night I found a disc in the woods. Guy wrote his name on it but no contact info![]()
I hit Bluemont a couple times a week as its my local course that I can walk to in about 10 minutes. While convenient it is definitely not the best layout and is a short course and despite having 3 tee boxes per hole its not all that challenging.Giles Run in Lorton is tough. Two tee boxes per hole and two pin placements - Red/White. Have extra discs ready cause there are patches of rose/thorn bushes where if your disc goes in there, even if you can see it, you may not be able to get it back. I've seen people with machetes out there.I think both parks in McLean are only nine holes. Burke Lake is the course I played growing up. Not all that challenging and annoying because the course isn't separated from the rest of the park so you have Mom, Dad, and little Ricky walking up fairways, etc.You should check out Seneca Creek State Park in Gaithersburg, MD. Really not that far from DC/MD/VA. 27 hole course with 2 tee boxes per hole. After each 9 it dumps you out near the parking lot so you can refill drinks/rest/etc. Will cost you $3.00 per person in car if you are out of state.http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=192Can anyone comment on any of these? I'm interested in giving this a go around DC and Bluemont would definitely be the most convenient, but I get the impression it might not be the best layout? Bluemont Park Arlington, VA 6 miles McLean Central Park McLean, VA 11 miles Giles Run @ Laurel Hill Park Lorton, VA 12 miles Marshmallow Mountain McLean, VA 14 miles Burke Lake Park Fairfax Station, VA 15 miles Calvert Road Park College Park, MD 15 miles
Thanks for letting us know about the private course that we can't play on.Big disc golf weekend coming up. 10 guys will disappear from society and will camp out and play all weekend at a private course in Wisconsin called Axledog Acres - http://fp1.centurytel.net/AxldogAcresDiscGolf
Can't ####### wait!!!!
looks sweetBig disc golf weekend coming up. 10 guys will disappear from society and will camp out and play all weekend at a private course in Wisconsin called Axledog Acres - http://fp1.centuryte...ogAcresDiscGolf
Can't ####### wait!!!!