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"Official" Donald Trump for President: Great Wall of Mexico (1 Viewer)

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lod01 said:
He's totally done and that's what he ultimately wanted to begin with. However, he's not done ####### with the party. I mean, what billionaire would ever want to be shackled to the WH for 4 years? He's not the brightest bulb but he is apparently smart enough to hold onto his $.

Ready for that 3rd party run through November. :D   Right now I have him costing the R's the WH. That gives him a win in his mind.
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I don't think he'll run 3rd party.   He doesn't want to lose the General Election, either as a Republican or 3rd party.   Whoever does get the nomination will most likely lose to Hillary anyway and for the rest of his life he'll claim he would have beaten Hillary but the GOP stole the nomination from him.   Perfect scenario for him.

 
Lyin' Cheatin' Cruz

Radar has learned The National ENQUIRER will this week report its findings of yet another exhaustive and investigative probe that will quote journalist detectives who claim the mystery candidate almost certainly “has to be Cruz.”

Investigator Wayne Madsen, who was on a team of reporters hired by Hustler Magazine’s boisterous owner Larry Flynt to investigate the madam, told The ENQUIRER that Cruz should be concerned!

“If Montgomery Sibley has what he says he has, it has to be Cruz,” he said in an interview — an advance copy of which was provided to Radar.
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JuniorNB said:
As much as I hated Trump, the man, I always thought it would be a crummy thing to do if the GOP gives the nomination to someone else if Trump has the most delegates. But recently, a couple things happened to change my mind on that.  Trump's lack of knowledge and crazy thoughts about having everyone armed with nuclear weapons is the main one. Trump is dangerously unintelligent and uninformed about international security. He is literally a danger to the entire world.  Secondly, these past couple of weeks, when Trump showed with certainty that he is painfully unqualified, I heard too many of his supporters say that they now realize he's a buffoon, but they're still going to vote for him to prove a point.  Sorry, this isn't an election to a small town school board. Where everyone can get a kick out of electing the town drunk.  These past two weeks have convinced me that the GOP will and should nominate someone else if Trump fails to secure the 1237 delegates.
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You should pay attention to Cruz.  Has some insane ideas as well but no one is talking about him because of Trump.  He's a fool.  He's the other option. 

 
flapgreen said:
You should pay attention to Cruz.  Has some insane ideas as well but no one is talking about him because of Trump.  He's a fool.  He's the other option. 
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Trump wants to make America Great Again

Cruz wants to make gay bashing Great Again

 
shadyridr said:
My cousin from Germany said he prays trump doesn't become president because he will destroy the world :lmao: this is someone from the country that gave us Hitler.
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Cool story, brah

 
Radar has learned The National ENQUIRER will this week report its findings of yet another exhaustive and investigative probe that will quote journalist detectives who claim the mystery candidate almost certainly “has to be Cruz.”

Investigator Wayne Madsen, who was on a team of reporters hired by Hustler Magazine’s boisterous owner Larry Flynt to investigate the madam, told The ENQUIRER that Cruz should be concerned!
“If Montgomery Sibley has what he says he has, it has to be Cruz,” he said in an interview — an advance copy of which was provided to Radar.
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Wayne Madsen is the same guy who came up with the Rubio gay orgy story. He has also officially endorsed Donald Trump (which is kind of strange thing for an "investigative journalist" to do).

 
flapgreen said:
You should pay attention to Cruz.  Has some insane ideas as well but no one is talking about him because of Trump.  He's a fool.  He's the other option. 
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It's out of the frying pan and into the fire for the GOP but Cruz has nothing like advocating leaving NATO, promoting nuke proliferation and he seems to be capable of discussing things like abortion without going into fits.

 
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timschochet said:
People keep saying he's done, and I'd love to believe it. But: 

1. A national poll over the weekend shows that Trump has actually widened his lead over the other candidates.

2. A Wisconsin poll over the weekend shows that Trump has tightened the race there, from 10 points down to 6 or 7. 

So I don't know. Even if he loses Wisconsin, if he wins New York, New Jersey, and California (and he's very much favored in all 3) I still don't see how Trump is denied the nomination, whether or not he comes short of the 1237 needed. 
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I'm going off the assumption he's losing Wisconsin, which seems pretty certain to me based on polling.  I think a loss right now in this state fuels the perception that he's on his way down, even though that's a bit unfair.  (For instance if the NY primary were this weekend, he'd be a huge winner)

Im also jumping the gun a bit, as I honestly have no idea what the convention will be like and whether it's really possible to strip him of 1100 delegates...

But I feel strongly that he's done because the establishment isn't in his corner.  They must feel very strongly that they can take it from him.

When I first got interested in this race, I figured the establishment would fall in line, and if they had I firmly believe Trump would pose a big threat to Hilary.  

But the RNC would obviously rather detonate their party than allow Trump to win, and so that's what they'll do.  If they thought he was going to win at the convention anyway, Id imagine they'd be mending fences right now, and that's not what I'm seeing.

 
flapgreen said:
You should pay attention to Cruz.  Has some insane ideas as well but no one is talking about him because of Trump.  He's a fool.  He's the other option. 
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Cruz is so far out there that he has virtually a zero percent chance of beating Hilary.  Not gonna happen unless she goes to jail a week before the final election, and even then any democrat they picked would destroy him.  

 
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shader said:
I'm going off the assumption he's losing Wisconsin, which seems pretty certain to me based on polling.  I think a loss right now in this state fuels the perception that he's on his way down, even though that's a bit unfair.  (For instance if the NY primary were this weekend, he'd be a huge winner)

Im also jumping the gun a bit, as I honestly have no idea what the convention will be like and whether it's really possible to strip him of 1100 delegates...

But I feel strongly that he's done because the establishment isn't in his corner.  They must feel very strongly that they can take it from him.

When I first got interested in this race, I figured the establishment would fall in line, and if they had I firmly believe Trump would pose a big threat to Hilary.  

But the RNC would obviously rather detonate their party than allow Trump to win, and so that's what they'll do.  If they thought he was going to win at the convention anyway, Id imagine they'd be mending fences right now, and that's not what I'm seeing.
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Its my opinion that the RNC is too out of touch to think that by taking it from Trump, it would hurt their brand.  They haven't listened to their constitutes for years as it is, why change now.

 
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Marauder said:
I don't think he'll run 3rd party.   He doesn't want to lose the General Election, either as a Republican or 3rd party.   Whoever does get the nomination will most likely lose to Hillary anyway and for the rest of his life he'll claim he would have beaten Hillary but the GOP stole the nomination from him.   Perfect scenario for him.
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Totally agree with this.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Serious question - for the Trump supporters - how many think he really wants to be president?
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I don't. However he has gotten himself into a pickle and quitting at any point now would be a disaster for him as far as he perceives himself. He's got to ride it to the convention and hope for Marauder's scenario...which is my scenario for weeks now.

 
Higgs said:
I waffle on it, and I think Trump does too.  Sometimes it seems like he is intentionally sabotaging his campaign.  Who knows.
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Thats kind of what I think too - I think he ran just because he could, not really expecting to win.  Now that it is within his reach, I think he wants it a little more - but he does seem to be doing everything he can to throw it away.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Thats kind of what I think too - I think he ran just because he could, not really expecting to win.  Now that it is within his reach, I think he wants it a little more - but he does seem to be doing everything he can to throw it away.
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Agree, part of me thinks he wants to just screw up the eventual nominee enough, so when Clinton/Sanders wins he can say, "I told ya so! I would've been a stronger candidate!" Then he gets to look like a hero and gets extra publicity over the next 4 years with people wondering whether he'll run again. 

 
Sinn Fein said:
Thats kind of what I think too - I think he ran just because he could, not really expecting to win.  Now that it is within his reach, I think he wants it a little more - but he does seem to be doing everything he can to throw it away.
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Don't get me wrong, I think he does want to win.  But I think when things go bad, or when he sees the bs, he probably thinks - ahh #### it - who needs it.

 
People on the Trump side, you realize this is another manipulation attack on Trump right? Make it seem like Trump doesn't really want it so you don't vote for him. This is basic stuff.

 
dfsguy said:
People on the Trump side, you realize this is another manipulation attack on Trump right? Make it seem like Trump doesn't really want it so you don't vote for him. This is basic stuff.
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Please take that stuff to your personal Facebook group page

 
dfsguy said:
 You were definitely manipulated by the media into thinking Trump isn't serious about being President.
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I have not read anything about it - just my own observations.  The presidency, while certainly a powerful position, really would constrain Trump in ways I don't think he wants to be constrained.

Trump is not used to having to answer to anyone, let alone a congress full of people who both envy and despise him.

 
Sinn Fein said:
I have not read anything about it - just my own observations.  The presidency, while certainly a powerful position, really would constrain Trump in ways I don't think he wants to be constrained.

Trump is not used to having to answer to anyone, let alone a congress full of people who both envy and despise him.
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Not only is Trump running for president and leading, he is putting more effort into it than anyone else. Every day it feels like he is doing a rally. Every day it feels like he is a guest on multiple tv shows, late night etc.

LETS NOT FORGET, he also walked away from a very lucrative tv show and spends his own money to run.

All that effort and years of thinking about running prior(plenty of interviews DECADES AGO where he was thinking about it) to running and you've come to the conclusion that he isn't serious?

Nah, I believe you are smarter than that, and have to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were manipulated into thinking something so outrageous and silly.

 
Look - I am not trying to dissuade you from your guy.

But, Trump is first, and foremost, about promoting Trump.  Going around giving rallies for his supporters is not really evidence that he wants to be president.  It just means he loves the attention.

I think he has run a strong campaign - and has out-smarted nearly everyone.  He has stayed on the front page, he rarely spends on advertising, and the entire GOP is positioning everything around what Trump does or says - there is no bigger player in the game.

Its just my observation, that he originally ran as an ego thing.  Then, his message started to resonate with a lot of people, and Trump liked the attention.  I don't think he ever considered that he could actually win - until he started winning.  Now, I think he wants to win - though not necessarily be president.

But, I don't want to discourage any of his supporters from voting for him.  So carry on.

 
dfsguy said:
Not only is Trump running for president and leading, he is putting more effort into it than anyone else. Every day it feels like he is doing a rally. Every day it feels like he is a guest on multiple tv shows, late night etc.

LETS NOT FORGET, he also walked away from a very lucrative tv show and spends his own money to run.

All that effort and years of thinking about running prior(plenty of interviews DECADES AGO where he was thinking about it) to running and you've come to the conclusion that he isn't serious?

Nah, I believe you are smarter than that, and have to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were manipulated into thinking something so outrageous and silly.
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Trump has outworked all the other candidates.  By a wide margin.  He does 3 rallies a day and speaks to the media when he's not doing a rally.  The guy has tremendous energy.

 
Higgs said:
Trump has outworked all the other candidates.  By a wide margin.  He does 3 rallies a day and speaks to the media when he's not doing a rally.  The guy has tremendous energy.
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Yeah, makes sense Trump would work his ### off because he doesn't really want to win.

 
dfsguy said:
Yeah, makes sense Trump would work his ### off because he doesn't really want to win.
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He hasn't even started yet. Wait until he gets to the general. He'll have unbelievable energy. Just great energy. The greatest energy. 

 
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