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JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
seriously, has there been a worse communicator than Trump? The guy literally cannot say the right things (and I am not talking PC things).
timschochet
Footballguy
The studies on this have shown the opposite. Immigrants do not take existing jobs away.
Incidentally, the exact same accusation was made against Irish immigrants in the 1840s, and eastern European, Jewish, and Italian immigrants in the 1890s. It wasn't true then and it's not true now.
bueno
In a class by himself
Yes, we should. Was anger at the Jews controlling banking in Europe a fear that was real?
N.B. - I'm not equating today to the 1930s in any way except to demonstrate how not addressing fears that aren't real can go horribly wrong.
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honky kong
Footballguy
bueno
In a class by himself
You know, so was racial inequality. It doesn't mean we shouldn't address it before it reaching a tipping point.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Can you describe the exact procedure by which someone "takes" a job? Or are they "given " jobs?
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timschochet
Footballguy
All right. Please explain, specifically, how we should address the false fear that immigrants are taking our jobs away.
bueno
In a class by himself
mr. furley
Footballguy
he goes off the cuff too much because he believes in himself too much. he's so caught up in his own sense of grandiosity that he always feels he can "win". someone who always wins doesn't need help.. help is for losers.
even when he stumbles and makes obvious gaffes he doesn't see them as such. he blames the listener instead.
i've always assumed that to climb to this level of business, or politics, or sports there's a higher than average degree of narcissism required. everyone is self-centered in some way but to get here requires a magnitude greater self-belief than average. to be Trump, requires a magnitude larger than even that.
if the average person if an F1 tornado of navel-gazing and someone at the highest reaches of their chosen profession is an F5 then Trump is an F11.
mr. furley
Footballguy
mr. furley
Footballguy
everybody ignore bueno
he's the guy who claimed that Senator Larry Craig, of the soliciting gay sex in a bathroom Larry Craig's, couldn't possibly be gay because he knew the guy and his wife personally.
there's a level of delusion at play here that can't be reasoned with
he's the guy who claimed that Senator Larry Craig, of the soliciting gay sex in a bathroom Larry Craig's, couldn't possibly be gay because he knew the guy and his wife personally.
there's a level of delusion at play here that can't be reasoned with
bueno
In a class by himself
Obviously, Trump wants to do it through curtailing illegal immigration. Building a wall, quite frankly, is ridiculous, but streamlining our immigration procedures without favoring those who had to have broken three laws to get a job would be a start.
bueno
In a class by himself
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
A start towards what? As I've pointed out, every study shows that immigration, including illegal immigration, is not taking away jobs. So what is the point of your proposal?
HellToupee
Footballguy
The Illegal Publishing of Trump's Tax Return Demonstrates Why an Outsider Absolutely Must Be Elected President
RUSH: Who's all betting on what I'm gonna start with? They're telling me on the other side of the glass that they're betting in there on what I'm gonna start with. What else is there? What are the possibilities? What are you betting on in there? (interruption) Are you kidding me? You think I would actually open with Kardashian, which you've now forced me to do? You actually think that I would mention the robbery in Paris leading off the program?
What's the other one? The Clinton love child. So far that's a Drudge exclusive. (interruption) Oh, has the Daily Mail picked it up? Okay. But nowhere else. I mean, they're avoiding that story like the plague. Well, that's the natural starting point is Trump's taxes. But I have some questions about this before we get started with the details.
The illegal publishing of Donald Trump's tax return encapsulates and validates the reason why an outsider absolutely must be elected president, if you ask me. This is an act of illegality. Donald Trump has followed the law. Nobody in this is even alleging he broke the law. He certainly hasn't been accused of it by the IRS or anybody else.
We're talking about 1995. Donald Trump has followed the law. The media broke the law. The New York Times breaks the law. Do you realize how much lawlessness is dominating the events every day in our country from illegal immigration to the Clintons' illegal pay and play for their foundation, to the Clintons illegal accepting payoffs and front money in advance of her being elected president and while she was secretary of state.
Do you realize all the lawbreaking, the real illegality that we are dealing with every day, the breakdown of the rule of law, and that's not the story. Donald Trump has followed the law, the media has broken the law, and the illegal publishing of Trump's tax return I think, again, illustrates, validates, if you will, the reasons why an outsider absolutely must be elected president.
The media may have worked with the IRS to break the law. We already know the IRS breaks the law. We know the IRS broke the law in denying tax-exempt status to a number of conservative fundraiser organizations. We know that Mrs. Clinton is routinely violating the law as secretary of state with her email server. And the lying that the FBI director documented that she engaged in, not in her interview, but that she's lied to congressional committees, she has lied to the American people.
Mrs. Clinton will not release the transcripts of the speeches that she has given to banks, and I think we know why now. When she goes out and speaks to Bernie Sanders supporters, she tells them that they're all wet, she tells them that their hopes and dreams are unrealistic. We weren't supposed to learn about that.
We weren't supposed to learn about the fact that she believes half of Trump's voters could be put in a basket of deplorables. It's no wonder Mrs. Clinton won't go out and do what Donald Trump is doing right now, or was earlier. He was having a sit-down with a bunch of military people, a bunch of veterans at an organization in Washington after having given a speech. He'll talk to anybody who wants to talk to him, any time, any day, about anything.
Mrs. Clinton can't afford to because they have to really ride herd on making sure she doesn't say things in public like she says in private, which slowly and surely are leaking out. But the breakdown of the rule of law -- the abject lawlessness that is determining the future, determining the direction our country is traveling and going -- it's time it stopped. And even the editor of the New York Times, this Dean Baquet guy, said he would gladly go to jail if somebody sent him the Trump tax returns and he published them illegally.
It's illegal for the IRS to share that information with anybody. It's illegal for the Times to publish it. But nobody's talking about that. Listen to this. This is Glenn Thrush writing at The Politico in a story headlined: "The Week That Will Decide the U.S. Election -- Five things to watch in a week that will likely pick a president." You want the opening paragraph of this story? Here you go. Sit down. "If there's one thing we've learned about the 2016 electorate..." That's you.
"If there's one thing we've learned about the 2016 electorate after many dozens of polls, it's this: The Republicans could have nominated a mile-high mound of flaming medical waste and between 38 and 43% of the American electorate would have voted for it over Hillary Rodham Clinton." Now, you might think it's a clever line, I might think it's a clever line, but what it is is an attempt to dismiss and denigrate Trump by essentially saying that opposition to Hillary is out there because anywhere from 38 to 43% of the American people are a bunch of bigots.
Thirty-eight to 43% of the American people are a bunch of closed-minded whatevers -- deplorables, bitter clingers, what have you 'cause they would vote against Hillary Clinton no matter what. "The Republicans could have nominated a mile-high mound of flaming medical waste..." So that is -- and they're all over the place, folks. That's just the latest indication of how you are thought of by the Democrat Party, by its willing accomplices in the Drive-By Media and the Washington establishment in general.
I'm just telling you. It's all there for you to soak in and accept it. "Dem[ocrat]s Build Files to Track Trump 'Stain.'" That's another Politico story with yet another reference to a mile-high mound of waste. The Democrat Party "aims to hang this [Trump] around Republican necks for years." Washington Post: "A President Trump Could Deport Freely." This is a story designed to scare leftists, liberals, and pro-illegal immigrant forces by suggesting that Trump literally could deport anybody he wanted any time and probably would.
An opinion piece, an op-ed in the Washington Post: "The Most Shocking Part of Donald Trump's Tax Records Isn't the $916 Million Loss Everyone's Talking About." It's the illegal publishing of it. The Times. The Post doesn't say that, by the way. I'm adding that. That's really what is the most shocking part is. But it's not gonna be the most shocking part to most people. The same thing was done to Richard Nixon by Adam Clymer, then at the Baltimore Sun. Nixon's tax returns were illegally leaked. (interruption)
You don't know that story? I will remind you of that story as it comes up in the Stack of Stuff. I've put everything here in as much of a consequential or date timeline order as I can. So we have, just to establish: The illegal publishing of Trump's tax return to me demonstrates why an outsider absolutely must be elected president. What if it's your tax return? You might be saying, "So what, Rush? Trump's running for president. You gotta expect that most people release their tax return." He's chosen not to; there's no law says he has to.
Democrats are seeking any evidence they can, seeking any advantage they can 'cause they don't trust Hillary to win this on her own, obviously. So they willingly engage in illegality to do it, and now they're being praised and high-fived, of course, by other media outlets and organizations for doing so. But it's just a quintessential example of the corruption -- corruption at the highest levels of our government and media complex -- that we have to put up with and deal with every day. Trump followed the laws. The media broke the laws.
The media may have worked with IRS on to break the law. The IRS and the media appear to have conspired to help a Democrat, who herself is the most corrupt person to ever run for president. She's not the best. She's not the most qualified. She is the most corrupt person to ever run. But you know and I know that President Obama and the Department of Justice will do nothing to hold anybody responsible or accountable. There's a scandal here. Everybody thinks there's a scandal.
The scandal has nothing to do with Donald Trump. "What do you mean, Rush? We reported a lot of money, $916 million." Yeah, nothing illegal about it. Hillary used the same tactic. The New York Times used the same provision in the tax law. That's correct. The New York Times and Hillary Clinton have both used the same provision. Losses in one year carry over and count against whatever gains or income you show in succeeding years. The scandal here has nothing to do with Trump, but that's not how it's gonna be seen, obviously.
It's going to be seen because it is being reported as a Trump scandal. "He won't release his tax returns, and now we discovered he's declared this $916 million loss. Oh, my God, this has got to be a scandal!" Just because you can't think in those numbers, just because people can't relate to losing $916 million does not mean that there is a scandal. The scandal involves the IRS. The scandal involves the New York Times and the rest of the media. The scandal involves perhaps Hillary Clinton.
So we are up against crony justice, crony journalism, the illegal use of the IRS to punish enemies of Democrats, when to this day it is thought the only person that ever thought or tried to do that was Richard Nixon -- and he never did it. He wanted to, but he never did it. In fact, he ended up being victimized. And I hear people say, "Well, I guess this is it, the October surprise, Rush. I guess." No, this is not an October Surprise. This is standard operating procedure when the Democrats in the White House.
It's the standard operating procedure the Democrats and the establishment are running the show. Corruption is on the ballot, not scandal. It is not conservatism, not what we wish. Corruption is on the ballot, and it's all found under that capital D on your ballot. Okay, so Trump's business lost some money. We can see Trump's business lost some money. Hillary Clinton as secretary of state lost four people in Benghazi, including our ambassador. Hillary Clinton loses people. Trump lost some money.
His own, by the way, not yours.
Hillary Clinton also lost some 30,000 incriminating emails. Imagine if there was a carryover, a carryover write-off for debt ambassadors and colleagues, for broken laws and destroyed evidence. The Clinton family wouldn't pay taxes for the next five generations, if you could carry that stuff over. But the real grating thing to me here is that losing lives -- Benghazi -- losing and destroying evidence -- the email scandal and who knows what other corruption exists with the Clinton Crime Family Foundation -- these end up being resume enhancers for Democrats.
Whatever it takes to beat us. That is the unifying principle that keeps the left together: Beating us. We do not have such a unifying principle as evidenced by the split support for Trump. We, on our side, simply cannot and do not unify to beat Democrats, to beat liberals. They, on the left, unify. They'll forget any grudge they've got amongst themselves. They will unify to defeat us. We are the number one enemy they face day in and day out anywhere in the world, and they treat us accordingly. We do not. We're too busy trying to show them that we're not what they think of us. Such a pointless exercise.
The media, Barack Obama say Hillary's the most prepared person ever to be president.
Of what? A mafia family?
What is she qualified to be president of? Do you remember the emails from East Anglia, the University of East Anglia, which was the first solid indication that we all got confirming our suspicions that this manmade global warming story is a hoax? The New York Times refused to publish those emails. Do you remember? The New York Times refused to publish those emails because they were acquired by virtue of it hack, which the Times said made them acquired illegally, which the Times said prevented them from telling the story of the climate change hoax.
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RUSH: Who's all betting on what I'm gonna start with? They're telling me on the other side of the glass that they're betting in there on what I'm gonna start with. What else is there? What are the possibilities? What are you betting on in there? (interruption) Are you kidding me? You think I would actually open with Kardashian, which you've now forced me to do? You actually think that I would mention the robbery in Paris leading off the program?
What's the other one? The Clinton love child. So far that's a Drudge exclusive. (interruption) Oh, has the Daily Mail picked it up? Okay. But nowhere else. I mean, they're avoiding that story like the plague. Well, that's the natural starting point is Trump's taxes. But I have some questions about this before we get started with the details.
The illegal publishing of Donald Trump's tax return encapsulates and validates the reason why an outsider absolutely must be elected president, if you ask me. This is an act of illegality. Donald Trump has followed the law. Nobody in this is even alleging he broke the law. He certainly hasn't been accused of it by the IRS or anybody else.
We're talking about 1995. Donald Trump has followed the law. The media broke the law. The New York Times breaks the law. Do you realize how much lawlessness is dominating the events every day in our country from illegal immigration to the Clintons' illegal pay and play for their foundation, to the Clintons illegal accepting payoffs and front money in advance of her being elected president and while she was secretary of state.
Do you realize all the lawbreaking, the real illegality that we are dealing with every day, the breakdown of the rule of law, and that's not the story. Donald Trump has followed the law, the media has broken the law, and the illegal publishing of Trump's tax return I think, again, illustrates, validates, if you will, the reasons why an outsider absolutely must be elected president.
The media may have worked with the IRS to break the law. We already know the IRS breaks the law. We know the IRS broke the law in denying tax-exempt status to a number of conservative fundraiser organizations. We know that Mrs. Clinton is routinely violating the law as secretary of state with her email server. And the lying that the FBI director documented that she engaged in, not in her interview, but that she's lied to congressional committees, she has lied to the American people.
Mrs. Clinton will not release the transcripts of the speeches that she has given to banks, and I think we know why now. When she goes out and speaks to Bernie Sanders supporters, she tells them that they're all wet, she tells them that their hopes and dreams are unrealistic. We weren't supposed to learn about that.
We weren't supposed to learn about the fact that she believes half of Trump's voters could be put in a basket of deplorables. It's no wonder Mrs. Clinton won't go out and do what Donald Trump is doing right now, or was earlier. He was having a sit-down with a bunch of military people, a bunch of veterans at an organization in Washington after having given a speech. He'll talk to anybody who wants to talk to him, any time, any day, about anything.
Mrs. Clinton can't afford to because they have to really ride herd on making sure she doesn't say things in public like she says in private, which slowly and surely are leaking out. But the breakdown of the rule of law -- the abject lawlessness that is determining the future, determining the direction our country is traveling and going -- it's time it stopped. And even the editor of the New York Times, this Dean Baquet guy, said he would gladly go to jail if somebody sent him the Trump tax returns and he published them illegally.
It's illegal for the IRS to share that information with anybody. It's illegal for the Times to publish it. But nobody's talking about that. Listen to this. This is Glenn Thrush writing at The Politico in a story headlined: "The Week That Will Decide the U.S. Election -- Five things to watch in a week that will likely pick a president." You want the opening paragraph of this story? Here you go. Sit down. "If there's one thing we've learned about the 2016 electorate..." That's you.
"If there's one thing we've learned about the 2016 electorate after many dozens of polls, it's this: The Republicans could have nominated a mile-high mound of flaming medical waste and between 38 and 43% of the American electorate would have voted for it over Hillary Rodham Clinton." Now, you might think it's a clever line, I might think it's a clever line, but what it is is an attempt to dismiss and denigrate Trump by essentially saying that opposition to Hillary is out there because anywhere from 38 to 43% of the American people are a bunch of bigots.
Thirty-eight to 43% of the American people are a bunch of closed-minded whatevers -- deplorables, bitter clingers, what have you 'cause they would vote against Hillary Clinton no matter what. "The Republicans could have nominated a mile-high mound of flaming medical waste..." So that is -- and they're all over the place, folks. That's just the latest indication of how you are thought of by the Democrat Party, by its willing accomplices in the Drive-By Media and the Washington establishment in general.
I'm just telling you. It's all there for you to soak in and accept it. "Dem[ocrat]s Build Files to Track Trump 'Stain.'" That's another Politico story with yet another reference to a mile-high mound of waste. The Democrat Party "aims to hang this [Trump] around Republican necks for years." Washington Post: "A President Trump Could Deport Freely." This is a story designed to scare leftists, liberals, and pro-illegal immigrant forces by suggesting that Trump literally could deport anybody he wanted any time and probably would.
An opinion piece, an op-ed in the Washington Post: "The Most Shocking Part of Donald Trump's Tax Records Isn't the $916 Million Loss Everyone's Talking About." It's the illegal publishing of it. The Times. The Post doesn't say that, by the way. I'm adding that. That's really what is the most shocking part is. But it's not gonna be the most shocking part to most people. The same thing was done to Richard Nixon by Adam Clymer, then at the Baltimore Sun. Nixon's tax returns were illegally leaked. (interruption)
You don't know that story? I will remind you of that story as it comes up in the Stack of Stuff. I've put everything here in as much of a consequential or date timeline order as I can. So we have, just to establish: The illegal publishing of Trump's tax return to me demonstrates why an outsider absolutely must be elected president. What if it's your tax return? You might be saying, "So what, Rush? Trump's running for president. You gotta expect that most people release their tax return." He's chosen not to; there's no law says he has to.
Democrats are seeking any evidence they can, seeking any advantage they can 'cause they don't trust Hillary to win this on her own, obviously. So they willingly engage in illegality to do it, and now they're being praised and high-fived, of course, by other media outlets and organizations for doing so. But it's just a quintessential example of the corruption -- corruption at the highest levels of our government and media complex -- that we have to put up with and deal with every day. Trump followed the laws. The media broke the laws.
The media may have worked with IRS on to break the law. The IRS and the media appear to have conspired to help a Democrat, who herself is the most corrupt person to ever run for president. She's not the best. She's not the most qualified. She is the most corrupt person to ever run. But you know and I know that President Obama and the Department of Justice will do nothing to hold anybody responsible or accountable. There's a scandal here. Everybody thinks there's a scandal.
The scandal has nothing to do with Donald Trump. "What do you mean, Rush? We reported a lot of money, $916 million." Yeah, nothing illegal about it. Hillary used the same tactic. The New York Times used the same provision in the tax law. That's correct. The New York Times and Hillary Clinton have both used the same provision. Losses in one year carry over and count against whatever gains or income you show in succeeding years. The scandal here has nothing to do with Trump, but that's not how it's gonna be seen, obviously.
It's going to be seen because it is being reported as a Trump scandal. "He won't release his tax returns, and now we discovered he's declared this $916 million loss. Oh, my God, this has got to be a scandal!" Just because you can't think in those numbers, just because people can't relate to losing $916 million does not mean that there is a scandal. The scandal involves the IRS. The scandal involves the New York Times and the rest of the media. The scandal involves perhaps Hillary Clinton.
So we are up against crony justice, crony journalism, the illegal use of the IRS to punish enemies of Democrats, when to this day it is thought the only person that ever thought or tried to do that was Richard Nixon -- and he never did it. He wanted to, but he never did it. In fact, he ended up being victimized. And I hear people say, "Well, I guess this is it, the October surprise, Rush. I guess." No, this is not an October Surprise. This is standard operating procedure when the Democrats in the White House.
It's the standard operating procedure the Democrats and the establishment are running the show. Corruption is on the ballot, not scandal. It is not conservatism, not what we wish. Corruption is on the ballot, and it's all found under that capital D on your ballot. Okay, so Trump's business lost some money. We can see Trump's business lost some money. Hillary Clinton as secretary of state lost four people in Benghazi, including our ambassador. Hillary Clinton loses people. Trump lost some money.
His own, by the way, not yours.
Hillary Clinton also lost some 30,000 incriminating emails. Imagine if there was a carryover, a carryover write-off for debt ambassadors and colleagues, for broken laws and destroyed evidence. The Clinton family wouldn't pay taxes for the next five generations, if you could carry that stuff over. But the real grating thing to me here is that losing lives -- Benghazi -- losing and destroying evidence -- the email scandal and who knows what other corruption exists with the Clinton Crime Family Foundation -- these end up being resume enhancers for Democrats.
Whatever it takes to beat us. That is the unifying principle that keeps the left together: Beating us. We do not have such a unifying principle as evidenced by the split support for Trump. We, on our side, simply cannot and do not unify to beat Democrats, to beat liberals. They, on the left, unify. They'll forget any grudge they've got amongst themselves. They will unify to defeat us. We are the number one enemy they face day in and day out anywhere in the world, and they treat us accordingly. We do not. We're too busy trying to show them that we're not what they think of us. Such a pointless exercise.
The media, Barack Obama say Hillary's the most prepared person ever to be president.
Of what? A mafia family?
What is she qualified to be president of? Do you remember the emails from East Anglia, the University of East Anglia, which was the first solid indication that we all got confirming our suspicions that this manmade global warming story is a hoax? The New York Times refused to publish those emails. Do you remember? The New York Times refused to publish those emails because they were acquired by virtue of it hack, which the Times said made them acquired illegally, which the Times said prevented them from telling the story of the climate change hoax.
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Bob Magaw
Footballguy
Betting sites have it back about where Clinton was ahead at her height in the immediate aftermath and wake of the DNC (here, 80%/20%). Just an epic, historically DISASTROUS post-debate week for Trump.
http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-winner#Link10
http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-winner#Link10
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randall146
Footballguy
Trump is awful and horrible and constantly says insensitive, ignorant things, but this wasn't one of them. He didn't imply PTSD sufferers are weak - he said they truly suffer and we need better mental health treatment for veterans. His statement is actually one of the only empathetic things I've ever heard him say.
bueno
In a class by himself
A start toward moving from the perception workers are losing jobs to illegals by legalizing foreign workers. Curtail illegal immigration, the issue loses steam. It also gives us more accurate numbers on exactly how big the issue of foreign workers really is. Most of what I have seen from both sides of the issue is based on some pretty weak assumptions and biased data interpretation. The issue needs to be solved step-by-step. If you want immediate gratification, then there's always building the wall.
timschochet
Footballguy
"When people come back from war and combat, and they see things that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over, and you're strong and you can handle it, but a lot of people can't handle it."
Sammy3469
Footballguy
Plus it's not illegal to publish state tax returns, only federal. But Rush isn't concerned with facts anyway.
MattFancy
Footballguy
I try not to twist words, but I don't even understand what he's trying to say there.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
The return address on the package sent to the Times was Trump Tower. Authorized or not, they came from the Trump campaign.
randall146
Footballguy
Sucking up to his audience doesn't mean he's insulting those not in his audience. What he's saying is that the people in the audience can understand because they've been through the horrors of combat too.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
I think what he's saying is that there are some veterans in the crowd who have PTSD, but they are strong and they can handle it. But there are other veterans who aren't as strong, and they can't handle the PTSD. And so we need to provide more help to them.
I don't think he was insulting veterans. I think he just has a gross misunderstanding of how PTSD affects people. Even "strong" people have trouble handling PTSD.
bueno
In a class by himself
If Trump were smart, he'd take a page out of Reagan's book, and allow Hillary to appear to be the angry, mean, unlikable on in debates. When she proposes something, just smile and say to the listeners. Well, my opponent wants to continue this policy - how's that been working for you? He'd run away with the election.
saintfool
Dead sexy
Sen Craig asking for sex in a bathroom doesn't mean he's gay. it just means he's opportunistic maybe?
Tom Hagen
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
He's not smart. I don't have a problem with your list and many of them may indeed be legitimate issues but instead of being 'smart' his supporters let emotion rule them. Like all irrational decisions it has led to trouble. Trump is not remotely tethered towards any serious policies addressing those issues you raised.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Even if we take his complete and utter ###holery out of the equation, we're still left with the fact that he has an elementary school child's level of understanding of the basic issues involved in a Presidential election.
culdeus
Footballguy
I've always wondered why he ever enters political threads under his old username. I thought for a while he became jon-mx. Maybe he is, but is too lazy to swap alias now. The internet never forgets stuff like this. I think he even plead with, and was granted some degree of scrubbing of his posts on this matter by admins.
squistion
Footballguy
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
I'm calling BS on the whole 'genius' spin on Trump's taxes
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/03/im-calling-bs-on-the-whole-genius-spin-on-trumps-taxes-commentary.html
Searching for the Truth in Trump's 1995 Tax Return
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-03/searching-for-the-truth-in-trump-s-1995-tax-return
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/03/im-calling-bs-on-the-whole-genius-spin-on-trumps-taxes-commentary.html
Searching for the Truth in Trump's 1995 Tax Return
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-03/searching-for-the-truth-in-trump-s-1995-tax-return
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
You're right....he really should have kicked of his presidential campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi like Reagan did.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure the IRS wouldn't even have access to a NY state tax return.
So who would have access to his state returns and who would know that releasing state returns is not illegal but doing that with federal would be?
I'm guessing this isn't Marla. She would have the state forms but she would be unlikely to know the second point.
Would even someone on a casino board know the second point? This is something you research or just 'know'.
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bueno
In a class by himself
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
I personally wouldn't rule out the campaign itself (with Trump's blessing). Paying zero taxes is pretty much the least offensive thing about him, IMO.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Hypothetically you can put any address you want as a return address.
They could also mail it from any box in Manhattan regardless of where it came from.
bueno
In a class by himself
Fear is an emotion, so it doesn't have to be based on anything, but it may be based on past experience - just saying.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Not to mention you can write whatever you want in the "return address" spot on any mailing label. That said, I don't think it is outside the realm of possibility that it did actually come from the campaign itself.
bueno
In a class by himself
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I'm not ruling it out either. Trump is a funny cat. IIRC he's talked about the 900M loss before too.
bueno
In a class by himself
It may have, or it may be just another political dirty trick. After all, both sides excel at that.
bueno
In a class by himself
In retrospect, he's probably bisexual. Not that it matters. It still had to be something someone of his age found traumatic to deal with, especially growing up in Southern Idaho.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Also if paying no taxes is what comes out of the returns that's a win for Trump, because what he's really likely hiding are the entities and people he is in business with. If Trump can send out a snip saying hey look no taxes, secret's out, no big deal, now you can stop asking about the returns, arguably that's a win and lets him off the hook.
Also Melania's pics were mysteriously leaked to the Post too.
Also Melania's pics were mysteriously leaked to the Post too.
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urbanhack
Fight The Power!
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