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don't get the people whose sole factor is supreme court justices.  does abortion and gay marriage really affect their lives that much on a daily basis?  the 2nd amendment isn't going anywhere.  what the #### are they afraid of?

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Yea, but he is encouraging people to watch the polling stations and make sure things are going ok. So voter intimidation basically. 
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I don't really understand "voter intimidation". So some knuckledragger is standing outside of the polling place - how's he going to know who I am voting for? And even if it is in a heavily Democratic area, what's he going to do?

 
honky kong said:
I don't really understand "voter intimidation". So some knuckledragger is standing outside of the polling place - how's he going to know who I am voting for? And even if it is in a heavily Democratic area, what's he going to do?
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It's pretty much code for stop blacks and hispanics from voting.

 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
I really think you guys are underestimating how much more enthusiasm there is on his side.
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The polls account for this now, they've switched over to likely voters.

My two big remaining concerns are:

(1) how people's brains go through all sorts of contortions to avoid having to confront the fact that they've been taken by a scam, which means he he generally doesn't shed support once he firms it up and can really only go up from here if Clinton slips up over the next month somehow, and

(2) The possibility that he unexpectedly takes one or both of Wisconsin and Michigan, where he's a lot closer than previous GOP candidates but the states haven't been polled as much since they're not usually thought of as swing states. Either one of them plus Florida would probably do it for him, assuming he also wins Ohio. If he wins them both and also somehow wins Colorado he could even afford to lose Florida.

 
joffer said:
don't get the people whose sole factor is supreme court justices.  does abortion and gay marriage really affect their lives that much on a daily basis?  the 2nd amendment isn't going anywhere.  what the #### are they afraid of?
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Are those the only issues you think the SC deals with?

 
honky kong said:
I get that but a bunch of Trumpkins showing up is going to make those people not vote?
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Of course not, and they'll get arrested pretty much immediately if they try to do anything at all. But they're also not the sharpest tools in the shed, and neither is Trump himself, so...

 
TobiasFunke said:
The polls account for this now, they've switched over to likely voters.

My two big remaining concerns are:

(1) how people's brains go through all sorts of contortions to avoid having to confront the fact that they've been taken by a scam, which means he he generally doesn't shed support once he firms it up and can really only go up from here if Clinton slips up over the next month somehow, and

(2) The possibility that he unexpectedly takes one or both of Wisconsin and Michigan, where he's a lot closer than previous GOP candidates but the states haven't been polled as much since they're not usually thought of as swing states. Either one of them plus Florida would probably do it for him, assuming he also wins Ohio. If he wins them both and also somehow wins Colorado he could even afford to lose Florida.
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538 has a good article on how he's underperforming among whites even now and how that group is actually trending away from him.  Even in a Fox Poll he can't get to the magic +22 number for whites and I have to assume that would be the poll showing the largest enthusiasm gap.  If anything at this point, we're closer to his firewall completely breaking versus some magical non-educated white turnout.

Trump’s less-than-overwhelming margins among white voters in the polls listed above are a big reason why all five surveys showed him trailing Hillary Clinton overall. In fact, Trump would be losing by a larger margin, but third-party candidates are getting support from younger and minority voters, so that Clinton is slightly underperforming Obama among these groups. But the magnitude of Clinton’s struggles with young and nonwhite voters isn’t anywhere big enough to cancel out Trump’s relatively poor showing among white voters.

Perhaps, it would be better news for Trump if he were at least trending in the right direction with white voters. But he’s moved backward compared with polls back in May and early June. Back then, Trump led Clinton by 17 percentage points, on average, among white voters. In other words, the longer white voters have had a chance to listen to Trump’s message, the more they have been put off by it as a group.
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 http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-doing-worse-than-romney-did-among-white-voters/

 
honky kong said:
I don't really understand "voter intimidation". So some knuckledragger is standing outside of the polling place - how's he going to know who I am voting for? And even if it is in a heavily Democratic area, what's he going to do?
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Do you remember the posters on this forum regarding the 2008 election complaining about The New Black Panthers? NBP was two guys who stood in front of one inner city polling place in a precinct that was about 100% African American. The press interviewed people and couldn't find one that said it kept them from voting, but some conservatives here pointed to it and have continued to mention it over the years as proof of Democrats fixing the election.

 
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squistion said:
Do you remember the posters on this forum in 2012 complaining about The New Black Panthers? NBP was two guys who stood in front of one inner city polling place in a precinct that was about 100% African American. The press interviewed people and couldn't find one that said it kept them from voting, but some conservatives pointed it to it and have continued to mention it over the years as proof of Democrats fixing the election.
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Only black people are intimidating.  HTH.

 
Sammy3469 said:
538 has a good article on how he's underperforming among whites even now and how that group is actually trending away from him.  Even in a Fox Poll he can't get to the magic +22 number for whites and I have to assume that would be the poll showing the largest enthusiasm gap.  If anything at this point, we're closer to his firewall completely breaking versus some magical non-educated white turnout.

 http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-doing-worse-than-romney-did-among-white-voters/
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"If he could only not be himself for the next month!!!!"

 
Trump is tearing the NFL apart
 

Four weeks into the NFL season and four weeks from Election Day, amid an increasingly politicized league confronting on-field protests every Sunday, a straw poll of 43 players by B/R Mag shows:

20 of 22 black NFL players plan to vote for Hillary Clinton.

2 of 22 black NFL players plan to vote for Donald J. Trump.

21 of 21 white NFL players plan to vote for Trump.
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Probably a little hyperbole in that headline, but sounds like things are getting a little tense.  :unsure:

 
Grace Under Pressure said:
For many pages now this thread has a significant lack of anyone actually willfully admitting their plans to vote for this dolt with just about a month remaining. Compared to the 2012 Romney thread, it's a stark difference.
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Anyone? 

See you guys tomorrow!  :bye:

 
joffer said:
don't get the people whose sole factor is supreme court justices.  does abortion and gay marriage really affect their lives that much on a daily basis?  the 2nd amendment isn't going anywhere.  what the #### are they afraid of?
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I'm afraid of the court being delegitimized if the Republicans successfully block the Democrats from passing any justices going forward.

 
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squistion said:
Do you remember the posters on this forum regarding the 2008 election complaining about The New Black Panthers? NBP was two guys who stood in front of one inner city polling place in a precinct that was about 100% African American. The press interviewed people and couldn't find one that said it kept them from voting, but some conservatives here pointed to it and have continued to mention it over the years as proof of Democrats fixing the election.
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I highly doubt the mentioning part was about fixing the election but more like voter intimidation but keep carrying on.

 
D-Day said:
And the Hillary voter said he couldn't be friends with someone who votes for Trump.  Ah, gotta love the "tolerant" people.
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Yeah, it's so weird that a black guy woud have a problem hanging out with someone who wants to elect a guy with a documented history of racism. 

 
Daywalker said:
I'm afraid of the court being delegitimized if the Republicans successfully block the Democrats from passing any justices going forward.
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As of right now, the left is favored to retake the Senate, so chances are pretty good that they end up having screwed themselves by effing around and refusing to consider Garland.

 
joffer said:
don't get the people whose sole factor is supreme court justices.  does abortion and gay marriage really affect their lives that much on a daily basis?  the 2nd amendment isn't going anywhere.  what the #### are they afraid of?
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Hillary taking everyone's guns and changing The Constitution so Obama can be President again, for life.  I #### you not, I heard this from one of Donald's supporters recently -- in person, not on talk radio. 

 
Daywalker said:
I'm afraid of the court being delegitimized if the Republicans successfully block the Democrats from passing any justices going forward.
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The GOP Senate has already shown that they will do anything they can to block any Democrat being named to the Supreme Court. They believe they have a permanent right to a Supreme Court majority. Since the rules require 60 votes to move forward on a USSC nomination vote they can easily block any nominee. It's very clear that they will pay no political price for doing this. Why would anyone think they'll stop?

 
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Insomniac said:
The GOP Senate has already shown that they will do anything they can to block any Democrat being named to the Supreme Court. They believe they have a permanent right to a Supreme Court majority. Since the rules require 60 votes to move forward on a USSC nomination vote they can easily block any nominee. It's very clear that they will pay no political price for doing this. Why would anyone think they'll stop?
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I have to believe they would pay some political price if they continue to stonewall in a Hillary administration.  Plus Hillary would just have Justice Kennedy assassinated to get a 4-3 majority.

 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
I have to believe they would pay some political price if they continue to stonewall in a Hillary administration.  Plus Hillary would just have Justice Kennedy assassinated to get a 4-3 majority.
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The majority dems in the senate would go nuclear option in that case and confirm with a simple majority.  And that's how Ralph Nader winds up on the Supreme Court.

 
I want Hillary to float BO as a Supreme Court nominee. 

It does seem weird that Trump isn't playing that note.  Every conservative that is disenchanted with him - and there are a few - needs to be reminded that there is a SC opening. 

 
Abraham said:
I want Hillary to float BO as a Supreme Court nominee. 

It does seem weird that Trump isn't playing that note.  Every conservative that is disenchanted with him - and there are a few - needs to be reminded that there is a SC opening. 
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It's very weird considering he's been running a pretty smart campaign aside from this oversight.

 
Abraham said:
I want Hillary to float BO as a Supreme Court nominee. 

It does seem weird that Trump isn't playing that note.  Every conservative that is disenchanted with him - and there are a few - needs to be reminded that there is a SC opening. 
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He doesn't actually care about putting a conservative on the Court, or a liberal for that matter. IMO he's at least 50% likely to appoint a non-lawyer who supports his weird notions of authoritarian executive power.

 
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