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Official Donald Trump for President thread (3 Viewers)

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proninja said:
I think if someone with absolutely no personality who was mediocre and inoffensive in every way would have a good shot against Hillary. White bread > Trump. 
I think it's overstated how great a chance another candidate would have had against Hillary.

With another candidate we would be talking about issues.  No other Republican candidate has any answers economically.  Social issues?  Not their strong suit either.

2016 would have been Obama/Romney all over again.  

 
proninja said:
I think if someone with absolutely no personality who was mediocre and inoffensive in every way would have a good shot against Hillary. White bread > Trump. 
I think she would beat anyone they had, maybe Kasich would have given her a run and he is about as boring as they come. 

Cruz is way too creepy, Rubio is a flaky light weight, Carson is too weird, Christie while craftier than Trump is pretty much a fatter Trump-lite clone, maybe I'm forgetting someone.

 
I think she would beat anyone they had, maybe Kasich would have given her a run and he is about as boring as they come. 

Cruz is way too creepy, Rubio is a flaky light weight, Carson is too weird, Christie while craftier than Trump is pretty much a fatter Trump-lite clone, maybe I'm forgetting someone.
Santorum, Huckabee, Perry,  Walker, Jindal...... all nut cases.

 
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A year ago I really didn't want to see President Hillary Clinton.   Jeb vs Hillary was my worst possible outcome of the primaries.  She hasn't done anything to improve that position.    And yet here I am, cheering on Trump's implosion.

 
It's true.  I'm definitely among those who have only two purposes when posting in this thread:

1.  To make fun of Donald Trump; and

2. to make fun of people supporting or voting for Donald Trump.

Think of it this way.  I'm "against" Donald Trump in the same way that I'm "against" being castrated by a weed whacker.  I feel like my reasons are largely self-evident.  So if I'm confronted by somebody who is in favor of Donald Trump or of being castrated by a weed whacker, I'm not really interested in exploring the assumptions that underlie our difference in opinion.  And I'm not worried about alienating those people because those people are twisted and weird.  So I'm more inclined to point and laugh.   
Someday hopefully this will be etched in marble in the Capitol Rotunda

 
proninja said:
Trump is the worst case scenario nobody expected 
And, in truth, I thought there was a small chance he could emerge as a serious candidate.   I had him behind Kasich, Rubio, and... :bag:   Christie.  And ahead of the rest of the pack.   What a bunch of failures.

 
I think she would beat anyone they had, maybe Kasich would have given her a run and he is about as boring as they come. 

Cruz is way too creepy, Rubio is a flaky light weight, Carson is too weird, Christie while craftier than Trump is pretty much a fatter Trump-lite clone, maybe I'm forgetting someone.


I think it's overstated how great a chance another candidate would have had against Hillary.

With another candidate we would be talking about issues.  No other Republican candidate has any answers economically.  Social issues?  Not their strong suit either.

2016 would have been Obama/Romney all over again.  
Jeb had the the best case on the issues bit he was burdened by the Bush name and by being Jeb.  Please like.

 
Probably Ryan.  Maybe so.  But it'd be a hell of a mess.  Cruz probably wouldn't just go along to get along and I think he could single-handedly scotch it.  

Plus you'd think it'd be easy to plant stories that he was forced out by "the Establishment".  Many people would be saying it for sure.
I don't think that there is a chance in hell that Paul Ryan would voluntarily jump on this landmine. He'll be the guy in 2020 or 2024 when he can do it right and have a real chance to win if Hillary craps the bed. It would have to be someone with nothing to lose, same as the VP pick.

 
So. Trump claims the 'media' is skewing polls. Trump claims the election will be rigged. Trump claims the only people who can stop Hillary are (read into it) people with guns.

Now Trump's campaign has a link for supporters to appear at polling stations as 'election observers.'

- Campaigns don't do this. Ever.

- Arguably this not a real campaign.

- Campaign personnel at polling places is illegal.

- Voter intimidation is illegal.

- Just rumor of this could suppress turnout in minority areas. Or it could cause a reciprocal response in minority areas. 

- Needless to say many will not feel the need for a bogus campaign 'form' in the first place.

- This  :censored:  Trump is worse than bad.

 
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So. Trump claims the 'media' is skewing polls. Trump claims the election will be rigged. Trump claims the only people who can stop Hillary are (read into it) people with guns.

Now Trump's campaign has a link for supporters to appear at polling stations as 'election observers.'

- Campaigns don't do this. Ever.

- Arguably this not a real campaign.

- Campaign personnel at polling places is illegal.

- Voter intimidation is illegal.

- Just rumor of this could suppress turnout in minority areas. Or it could cause a reciprocal response in minority areas. 

- Needless to say many will not feel the need for a bogus campaign 'form' in the first place.

- This  :censored:  Trump is worse than bad.
That's not going to fly at all. And yeah, he's actively doing damage to the country in order to have an excuse for getting his ### kicked. It's not surprising though, it's been obvious that he's a complete POS for a long time now. Just a truly vile person.

 
It's over guys. Trump has lost. Clinton will win in a landslide. Yep she is up by double digits. The Dems don't even have to come  out in numbers you guys got it.  :unsure:
I think this is an important post.  It highlights a growing pessimism among potential Trump supporters that his campaign is toast.  Before, there was an excitement and confidence about him; regardless of the externalities, Trump always pulled through.  Now, because of his antics and apparent lack of restraint, he's left his supporters feeling dejected.  How much more likely is an excited supporter to show up to the ballot box compared to a dejected supporter?  I'd say quite a lot.  

 
I'll gladly be an election observer. 
Any American can volunteer to be an official poll worker. Observers already exist and are part of the process. These are people who think America is Great. Contact the county registrar in St. Pete. That's where you are, right?

Cracked me up hearing Trump say in PA that 'hey the sheriffs need to be aware' - that's who holds the ballot boxes in almost every parish and county in the Union. In order for the election to be rigged Trump is saying that the sheriffs are rigging it. 

And if you show up for the Trump campaign outside this process there's a good chance you will wind up in handcuffs.

If you really have a concern sue your local sheriff.

 
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I think this is an important post.  It highlights a growing pessimism among potential Trump supporters that his campaign is toast.  Before, there was an excitement and confidence about him; regardless of the externalities, Trump always pulled through.  Now, because of his antics and apparent lack of restraint, he's left his supporters feeling dejected.  How much more likely is an excited supporter to show up to the ballot box compared to a dejected supporter?  I'd say quite a lot.  
And if the die hard Trumpkins are getting dejected, imagine how the actual Republicans who can't stand him feel. That's why the party is in full blown panic mode -- they're going to get crushed all the way down the ticket if people don't show up based on the clown at the top.

 
I think this is an important post.  It highlights a growing pessimism among potential Trump supporters that his campaign is toast.  Before, there was an excitement and confidence about him; regardless of the externalities, Trump always pulled through.  Now, because of his antics and apparent lack of restraint, he's left his supporters feeling dejected.  How much more likely is an excited supporter to show up to the ballot box compared to a dejected supporter?  I'd say quite a lot.  
I am as enthusiastic as ever, stop writing your own narrative. He still has tens of thousands of people showing up to his rallies.

 
I am as enthusiastic as ever, stop writing your own narrative. He still has tens of thousands of people showing up to his rallies.
Yeah, but you are neither realistic nor knowledgable. And that's not a slam, just the truth. The Republican Party itself is panicking and starting to distance themselves; I'm guessing that they have a much better grasp of what's going on than you do.

 
both the daughters of ronald reagan and martin luther king have condemned donalds hate filled call for gun violence this week its time to hang it up for donald and his supporters you are collectively embarassing yourselfs and america take that to teh bank bromigos

 
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Any American can volunteer to be an official poll worker. Observers already exist and are part of the process. These are people who think America is Great. Contact the county registrar in St. Pete. That's where you are, right?

Cracked me up hearing Trump say in PA that 'hey the sheriffs need to be aware' - that's who holds the ballot boxes in almost every parish and county in the Union. In order for the election to be rigged Trump is saying that the sheriffs are rigging it. 

And if you show up for the Trump campaign outside this process there's a good chance you will wind up in handcuffs.

If you really have a concern sue your local sheriff.
I actually did check the box to volunteer to be a poll worker.

 
Yeah, but you are neither realistic nor knowledgable. And that's not a slam, just the truth. The Republican Party itself is panicking and starting to distance themselves; I'm guessing that they have a much better grasp of what's going on than you do.
It's all a false narrative, the problem is they have no faith in Donald. If they showed faith in him like I do, I think you'd find that it's infectious.

He is getting my vote in November no matter what.

 
I'm starting to worry that if it looks like Trump is going to get trounced that aot of never Trump people might be feel safe staying home so they don't have to vote for Hillary.

 
This shtick is old and tired.  I guess if you're amusing yourself, great.  But don't fool yourself into thinking we don't see through it. 
Supporting my candidate is shtick? Turn on CNN, he has rallies with thousands of supporters daily.

There's nothing to see through, I'm a huge Trump supporter and people are still coming out to his rallies in huge numbers.

The only shtick is people saying his supporters are dejected when we're showing him as much support as ever, showing up by the thousand.

 
both the daughters of ronald reagan and martin luther king have condemned donalds hate filled call for gun violence this week its time to hang it up for donald and his supporters you are collectively embarassing yourselfs and america take that to teh bank bromigos
Who cares what they think? Being some bodies child does not entitle you to any superior opinion.

The son of the Walgreens founder was a druggie. Should we all respect his business acumen?

 
I'm starting to worry that if it looks like Trump is going to get trounced that aot of never Trump people might be feel safe staying home so they don't have to vote for Hillary.
Trump hasn't even spent any money on negative ads, the fight hasn't even reached the 3rd round, imo.

 
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Out of all of Trump's idiotic assertions, the most lasting damage is going to be caused by this line about the only way he can lose is through cheating.  Delegitimizing the results of the election in the eyes of his supporters threatens the very foundation of our political process.  It's one thing to attempt to delegitimize our popularly elected officials (birtherism, lock her up, etc.) - as despicable as that is, it doesn't hold a candle to calling into question the process itself.  

So not only is he currently hand-delivering the presidency to Hillary, in the process he is more likely than not giving the Senate to her, and putting the house in play, but also ensuring that an already angry and vocal gun-toting minority in this country will feel that the election was stolen from them?  

Where are we supposed to go from here?  What is his end game?

 
Out of all of Trump's idiotic assertions, the most lasting damage is going to be caused by this line about the only way he can lose is through cheating.  Delegitimizing the results of the election in the eyes of his supporters threatens the very foundation of our political process.  It's one thing to attempt to delegitimize our popularly elected officials (birtherism, lock her up, etc.) - as despicable as that is, it doesn't hold a candle to calling into question the process itself.  

So not only is he currently hand-delivering the presidency to Hillary, in the process he is more likely than not giving the Senate to her, and putting the house in play, but also ensuring that an already angry and vocal gun-toting minority in this country will feel that the election was stolen from them?  

Where are we supposed to go from here?  What is his end game?
When you consider the DNC primaries were rigged, he might be right or at least not so far fetched.

 
Out of all of Trump's idiotic assertions, the most lasting damage is going to be caused by this line about the only way he can lose is through cheating.  Delegitimizing the results of the election in the eyes of his supporters threatens the very foundation of our political process.  It's one thing to attempt to delegitimize our popularly elected officials (birtherism, lock her up, etc.) - as despicable as that is, it doesn't hold a candle to calling into question the process itself.  

So not only is he currently hand-delivering the presidency to Hillary, in the process he is more likely than not giving the Senate to her, and putting the house in play, but also ensuring that an already angry and vocal gun-toting minority in this country will feel that the election was stolen from them?  

Where are we supposed to go from here?  What is his end game?
 
Trumps end game is walk away and maybe build a casino.
And to leave his angry, racist supporters even more belligerent than when his joke of a campaign begun.. especially with all this talk of a rigged national election.

I agree with those who say there's no real upside here. Think about how morally bankrupt one must be to even contemplate voting for Trump. These people aren't going to just disappear. 

 
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