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Ray Barboni
Footballguy
I don’t play in SF leagues (yet), but that doesn’t seem like a good way to manage one.
I’ll take the picks here.
Boston
Footballguy
Not to sound like an *** but there is a bad Owner in this league.
-OZ-
Footballguy
He’s had some bad luck and is trying to compete. Many of us would just sell off anything with value.
Birdie048
Footballguy
While I understand the idea of selling your soul for a starting QB in SF, there has to be some consideration for return on investment here. Darnold is very likely a 1 year starter with no ROI after 2024He’s had some bad luck and is trying to compete. Many of us would just sell off anything with value.
How can that owner manage to be competitive if he/she sells off so indiscriminately
You implied they were not a strong team, then why not “rebuild” and sell off aging assets to restock and grow?
I guess the drive to compete overshadows the long term effort??
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yep - SF. It’s an overpay but I get it.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
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I see Ford & Moss as relatively even since Foreman is also there.
I don’t mind locking up the entire backfield in Cinci, even though I think you already had their dude.
I see Ford & Moss as relatively even since Foreman is also there.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
While likely, there’s also a non-zero possibility that JJ helps elevate Darnold to a job next year. There’s even an outside chance that Darnold is a top 15 QB this year. It’s a golden opportunity & he has some arm talent.While I understand the idea of selling your soul for a starting QB in SF, there has to be some consideration for return on investment here. Darnold is very likely a 1 year starter with no ROI after 2024He’s had some bad luck and is trying to compete. Many of us would just sell off anything with value.
How can that owner manage to be competitive if he/she sells off so indiscriminately
You implied they were not a strong team, then why not “rebuild” and sell off aging assets to restock and grow?
I guess the drive to compete overshadows the long term effort??
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Gee whiz, I wonder why. That’s shocking to hear. I’m shocked.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Call me crazy but I think he ends up being a solid #2While likely, there’s also a non-zero possibility that JJ helps elevate Darnold to a job next year. There’s even an outside chance that Darnold is a top 15 QB this year. It’s a golden opportunity & he has some arm talent.While I understand the idea of selling your soul for a starting QB in SF, there has to be some consideration for return on investment here. Darnold is very likely a 1 year starter with no ROI after 2024He’s had some bad luck and is trying to compete. Many of us would just sell off anything with value.
How can that owner manage to be competitive if he/she sells off so indiscriminately
You implied they were not a strong team, then why not “rebuild” and sell off aging assets to restock and grow?
I guess the drive to compete overshadows the long term effort??
-OZ-
Footballguy
Agreed, and to the guy’s credit he wants to compete.While I understand the idea of selling your soul for a starting QB in SF, there has to be some consideration for return on investment here. Darnold is very likely a 1 year starter with no ROI after 2024He’s had some bad luck and is trying to compete. Many of us would just sell off anything with value.
How can that owner manage to be competitive if he/she sells off so indiscriminately
You implied they were not a strong team, then why not “rebuild” and sell off aging assets to restock and grow?
I guess the drive to compete overshadows the long term effort??
I sold off during my rebuild.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I completely agree. Top 15 QB is in the realistic outcomes. Solid OL, great weapons assuming Hock is back after week 6 (and Tonyan is no slouch) plus Addison for most if not all year - a suspension is possible)
Plus a good D to keep them in games, and Aaron Jones & Ty Chandler to dump off to?
That’s the best offense he’s been in outside of SF, where he had virtually no PT.
I bought cheap in one SF league (Howell + 2026 3rd) where I have JMM, and have tried and failed to acquire in my other SF league. Once JMM went down the owner wants to hold until a team is desperate - and I don’t blame him. It’s a sharp strategy.
I know people are down on Darnold, but he’s had stretches of competence.
Birdie048
Footballguy
While I agree it is an idea situation, but his track record is not something that shows promise or endearment to the coaches beyond short term need (unsure on his contract details beyond $2.8M in 2024) CHEAP / no commitment
Yes, he has the tools to be Top 12 but my reference was more long term value compared to the 1st round traded
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Oh of course - but in fact he was pretty good for a stretch in CAR if I remember correctly, and that was hardly a powerhouse offense. 2022 he had a 92.6 QBR, and 2019 with the Jets 84.3 in a much larger sample size.
He wasn’t terrible.
That I agree with - given that FF team isn’t great, spending your 2027 picks now on Sam Darnold seems foolish.
But if I’m a competitive roster in a SF format, Darnold could well be a league-winner, as crazy as that is to type. And honestly he doesn’t have to do that much to be that. In my 16-team format especially. 3800 PaYd, 25 TD? Keep the turnovers down and that’s a perfectly fine QB2.
But yeah - in context I totally agree with you.
The Future Champs
Footballguy
Got an offer sitting out there. Your thoughts?
Give: Tee Higgins, Jonathan Taylor
Get: 1.05, Waddle
Not offficially part of the deal, but this is prompted by cut downs. I can keep Chase Brown if I do this deal. No one has had any interest in Brown, and I hate to just throw a starting RB back in the pool with zero compensation.
Give: Tee Higgins, Jonathan Taylor
Get: 1.05, Waddle
Not offficially part of the deal, but this is prompted by cut downs. I can keep Chase Brown if I do this deal. No one has had any interest in Brown, and I hate to just throw a starting RB back in the pool with zero compensation.
sheerterror
Footballguy
I don't care for it, but in the context of it allowing you to keep Brown (assuming you have absolutely no one else to cut) I guess it's better on paper than it appears.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I have Higgins worth about 65% of Waddle. I think the deal is fair, but it's not a deal I'd make. Assuming that's a 1.05 this year, (or even next) I don't see how you replace JT's value with that pick.
On paper I think you'd be getting about ~15% better return. But this feels like a classic trade calc deal. That value is there on paper, not in your lineup. I'd more than happily pay 1.05 + Waddle to get JT + Higgins. The 1.05 won't replace JT or even come close.
Plus the fact that Waddle has been dinged up in camp, and injuries derailed his season last year, you're also taking on that risk.
I wouldn't do it. My $.02
beef
Footballguy
I like it, but I'm high on Waddle and assuming Brooks at 1.05, whom I'm also high on.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC TriFlex close to cutdown day
I gave Nuk, Bigsby, Estime
I got 2025 2nd, 5th & 6th
have already given up on Estime may cut him. not even worth a boomerang play I'll probably put him on block for highest bids of any kind. doubt I even get a nibble.
I have *some* faith in Bigsby and I still like Nuk but happy to clear three roster spots and that 2nd looks early to me. Not a sexy return but an important one IMO.
I gave Nuk, Bigsby, Estime
I got 2025 2nd, 5th & 6th
have already given up on Estime may cut him. not even worth a boomerang play I'll probably put him on block for highest bids of any kind. doubt I even get a nibble.
I have *some* faith in Bigsby and I still like Nuk but happy to clear three roster spots and that 2nd looks early to me. Not a sexy return but an important one IMO.
Boston
Footballguy
Who do you get to keep now that you cleared that space?
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
10 Team Dynasty PPR - 4 flex
Traded:
Trey Benson
Zay Flowers
2025 1st (defending champion, hopefully late pick)
Received:
Malik Nabers
WR group includes: JaMarr Chase, AJ Brown, Tank Dell, Malik Nabers, Jaylen Waddle, Diontae Johnson, JSN, Brian Thomas, Marvin Mims, Jalen Tolbert, Jerry Jeudy, Roman Wilson
RB group includes: Bijan Robinson, Breece Hall, DeVon Achane and some fill-ins.
I was pretty deep at the position and wanted to own some stock in these talented WR's. I traded away Michael Pittman for Tyjae Spears and a 2025 1st from a bottom team and I still own that pick.
Traded:
Trey Benson
Zay Flowers
2025 1st (defending champion, hopefully late pick)
Received:
Malik Nabers
WR group includes: JaMarr Chase, AJ Brown, Tank Dell, Malik Nabers, Jaylen Waddle, Diontae Johnson, JSN, Brian Thomas, Marvin Mims, Jalen Tolbert, Jerry Jeudy, Roman Wilson
RB group includes: Bijan Robinson, Breece Hall, DeVon Achane and some fill-ins.
I was pretty deep at the position and wanted to own some stock in these talented WR's. I traded away Michael Pittman for Tyjae Spears and a 2025 1st from a bottom team and I still own that pick.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I like the Nabors side. Surprised they went for this.
Probably fair, but yeah - Nabers looks like he’s gonna be special. Flowers could be limited by his offense.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC SuperFlex
I gave Estime, 2025 2nd (late duh)
I got J Wright, R Davis
I gave Estime, 2025 2nd (late duh)
I got J Wright, R Davis
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Didn't really have direct bearing on this trade (sometimes it does though so it's a good question). I will speculatively be keeping Bateman and then my 20th spot is open for business (technically it is E Moore at the moment). There is a ~100% chance the week 1 or week 2 waiver wire will have somebody I want. Achieving flexibility is crucial. Would likely drop Bateman for a 2nd WW pickup but wouldn't mind seeing the new Ravens offense a little bit first you know. TriFlex WRs are tricky. Nuk is somebody I probably would never have been able to trade after this. Nobody wants him.
I don't believe in Estime and if Tank explodes I'll profit in a ton of other places. 2nd helps mitigate that a skosh.
Current WR corps = Tank Dell, DJ Moore, Deebo, Doubs, Jameson Wiliams, Palmer,
TLDR I didn't *need* to make this trade to keep a specific player, but I would have zero flexibility for waivers inseason and if I can acquire future picks to clear space of players I didn't really want anyway... big win for me I think. Small stakes.
Boston
Footballguy
Makes a ton of sense...Dhop aint getting any younger, Estime has not shown anything and while reports on Tank are good (they were last year as well) he's still a backup who needs things out of his control to have a path to fantasy relevancy...smart trade...that #2 will not lose value.
sheerterror
Footballguy
What am I missing here? This is at least a Ray Davis too heavy on your return.
Tonycarpenter
Footballguy
10 Team 1pt PPR all. Dynasty keep all
2Q 2RB 3WR 1TE 1W/T 1W/R 1WRT
Team A
Receives Ladd McConkey Tank Dell
Team B
receives Malik Nabers
With format you can start up to 6WRs week.
Team A current WRs
Davante Adams, Zay Flowers, George Pickens, Nabers, Rasheed Shaheed, DJ Chark, Jake Bobo. Ray Ray McCloud, Brandin Cooks
Team B current WRs
Justin Jefferson, AJ Brown, Puka Nacua, Chris Olave, Drake London, Tank Dell, Chris Godwin, LaddMcConkey, Xavier Legette.
Dynasty value charts
Ladd + Dell = 99 value
Nabers 67 value.
Added depth, youth to team A.
Consolidation of talent team B .
Fair, Cheap, over pay?
2Q 2RB 3WR 1TE 1W/T 1W/R 1WRT
Team A
Receives Ladd McConkey Tank Dell
Team B
receives Malik Nabers
With format you can start up to 6WRs week.
Team A current WRs
Davante Adams, Zay Flowers, George Pickens, Nabers, Rasheed Shaheed, DJ Chark, Jake Bobo. Ray Ray McCloud, Brandin Cooks
Team B current WRs
Justin Jefferson, AJ Brown, Puka Nacua, Chris Olave, Drake London, Tank Dell, Chris Godwin, LaddMcConkey, Xavier Legette.
Dynasty value charts
Ladd + Dell = 99 value
Nabers 67 value.
Added depth, youth to team A.
Consolidation of talent team B .
Fair, Cheap, over pay?
Boston
Footballguy
Not understanding this at all...not one bit.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Two best valued pieces on the same side is puzzling.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I would take Nabers without hesitation.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
+1
I like Ladd & Dell well enough, but if I’m the one getting Nabers it’s a smash accept for me.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
dude is already stacked at RB and saved one roster spot here, but I agree. I'm basically fireselling Estime for anything I can get. A package with a 2nd makes it look sexier I guess.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Incredible return imo, although I am higher than most on Wright. I cannot imagine him not being able to get more in return pretty much anywhere. Do you hold Achane or Cook?
beef
Footballguy
12 team Salary cap league, 20 player roster. Most teams can keep about 12-14 players.
Love, Godwin, 3.03, 5.03
for
Dak, Aiyuk, 2.02
I have Murray at QB too so QB isn't a huge need. Good to have solid depth. 4pt pass TD, 6 for others, PPR. I really wanted Aiyuk before his value really skyrockeys like I think it will soon. 2.02 gives me 4 top 15 picks too. That was a huge part for me accepting too since I'm in a rebuild mode. Draft is this weekend.
Love, Godwin, 3.03, 5.03
for
Dak, Aiyuk, 2.02
I have Murray at QB too so QB isn't a huge need. Good to have solid depth. 4pt pass TD, 6 for others, PPR. I really wanted Aiyuk before his value really skyrockeys like I think it will soon. 2.02 gives me 4 top 15 picks too. That was a huge part for me accepting too since I'm in a rebuild mode. Draft is this weekend.
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Neal Cassady
Footballguy
Ricky Pearsall is just sitting there at the end of round 4 in our rookie draft (with IDP). I’m wanting to offer Rico Dowdle for the next pick and take him. Am I missing something? He’s got to have more value than Dowdle. The next guy needs RB’s too, and I have 6-7 guys ahead of Dowdle.
joey
Footballguy
Is now a good time to mention that you traded Estime to me in our FFPC SharkPool league for my 2025 4th (late, duh!) ?
(Guess I’m the sucker)
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Well worth it at that stage to hold and see if/when they move on from Deebo. Rico is not a long term asset.
Same league: FFPC Triflex (superflex, TE premium, start 3 WRs)
Gave: Hollywood Brown, 2025 R3
Got: Sam Darnold, Gardner Minshew
My partner and I had no viable QB2, and the other guy needed to clear a roster spot.
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Still the same league
Gave: Rhamondre Stevenson
Got: Jameson Williams, Rashid Shaheed
We got some WR help back after trading away depth earlier.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
If you have the depth at WR to spare, I don't hate it. That said, Hollywood could be a strong WR2 for FF when he comes back to what should be a very productive offense. I do like his skill set.
Your hope of course is that Darnold plays himself into another job next year. I have a share, abd that is also my hope.
If you can spare the RB, this should be a solid return. I'm higher on Stevenson than most on this forum, and I think he's in for a top 12 FF season as the centerpiece of that offense. But Jameson Williams has some buzz, and I'm very high on Shaheed long-term.
So yeah - if you can sustain your RB room while losing RS, you have a nice chance to turn a profit on that trade.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I have Cook
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I'm the one taking a bigger risk. I don't have roster limit issues on this squad but I do have RB issues. But yeah wish I hadn't drafted him. My BB rostership on him is down to 11% thank goodness.Is now a good time to mention that you traded Estime to me in our FFPC SharkPool league for my 2025 4th (late, duh!) ?
(Guess I’m the sucker)
Is now a good time to mention that you traded Estime to me in our FFPC SharkPool league for my 2025 4th (late, duh!) ?
(Guess I’m the sucker)
FFPC
Gave Estime, got 25 3rd (random)
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Terrible return on Chase. I get that they’re getting Flowers + Andrews, but that wouldn’t get Chase from me.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC TriFlex
I gave 2025 4th
I got M Mayer
I have room they advertised they'd take a 4th so I ran to offer it up.
I gave 2025 4th
I got M Mayer
I have room they advertised they'd take a 4th so I ran to offer it up.
That's interesting, because I got an offer of a 2025 R3 for Mayer and I felt that was too low.
He was cut a few days ago in a FFPC rules league of mine and most FFPC redrafts I do he does not get drafted.
Not saying I agree with those decisions, in fact for the most part I don't, just reflective of his market value but there are some things with him I'm not sure people are properly taking into account. In other words I think he's a good buy low.
Birdie048
Footballguy
Not sure how I feel @ Mayer.
This makes me consider what options I should consider
Took him 2.02 last year and Bowers 1.04 this year (TE+).
I don’t think I would move him for less than a late 2nd or 3rd plus myself so it’s good to see I am not alone.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
yeah I agree - I wasn't looking to get him but it's too good not to IMO.
