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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (4 Viewers)

FFPC Triflex

Team A gets: Ja’Marr Chase, Hockenson, Javon Baker, Musgrave

Team B gets: Nico Collins, Isaiah Likely, Ben Sinnot
Prefer chase and hock
Easily Chase and Hock. This looks like one of those "What's the worst trade you've been offered?" posts.

The balls to ask for Baker & Musgrave too!!!

I’m trying to understand your thought process because I don’t see it as egregious by any means.

Who do you think has a better season- Chase or Nico? Hock or Likely?

I agree...first of all I would rather have Likely straight-up over TJH...Likely still has to deal with Andrews but he just turned 24 in April and is knocking on the door to being a stud...TJH is only 27 but is coming off of an ACL and there are questions what you get out of him this year...Chase has the star-power but Collins looks like he is still ascending and has a chance to join that first-tier of studs...as for the rest I don't think Baker will ever become anything relevant as far as fantasy is concerned, Musgrave is young and talented but it appears Kraft is passing him and Sinnott is pretty much a big question mark so that part of the deal is just an extra at this point...for the price of Chase's name I would have squeezed out a draft pick or a young prospect I am a little more excited about than Sinnot but overall I have no issues with either side of this deal.
 
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FFPC Triflex

Team A gets: Ja’Marr Chase, Hockenson, Javon Baker, Musgrave

Team B gets: Nico Collins, Isaiah Likely, Ben Sinnot
Prefer chase and hock
Easily Chase and Hock. This looks like one of those "What's the worst trade you've been offered?" posts.

The balls to ask for Baker & Musgrave too!!!

I’m trying to understand your thought process because I don’t see it as egregious by any means.

Who do you think has a better season- Chase or Nico? Hock or Likely?
I guess it’s pretty simple, by my valuations of course.
Chase >>>>> Collins
Hock >>> Likely
 
FFPC Triflex

Team A gets: Ja’Marr Chase, Hockenson, Javon Baker, Musgrave

Team B gets: Nico Collins, Isaiah Likely, Ben Sinnot
Prefer chase and hock
Easily Chase and Hock. This looks like one of those "What's the worst trade you've been offered?" posts.

The balls to ask for Baker & Musgrave too!!!

I’m trying to understand your thought process because I don’t see it as egregious by any means.

Who do you think has a better season- Chase or Nico? Hock or Likely?
I guess it’s pretty simple, by my valuations of course.
Chase >>>>> Collins
Hock >>> Likely
I’m not sure the chasm between Chase and Nico is nearly that large. Five greater than symbols would be like comparing Chase to someone like Dionte Johnson to me.

Nico is still super-under appreciated.
 
FFPC Triflex

Team A gets: Ja’Marr Chase, Hockenson, Javon Baker, Musgrave

Team B gets: Nico Collins, Isaiah Likely, Ben Sinnot
Prefer chase and hock
Easily Chase and Hock. This looks like one of those "What's the worst trade you've been offered?" posts.

The balls to ask for Baker & Musgrave too!!!

I’m trying to understand your thought process because I don’t see it as egregious by any means.

Who do you think has a better season- Chase or Nico? Hock or Likely?
I guess it’s pretty simple, by my valuations of course.
Chase >>>>> Collins
Hock >>> Likely
I’m not sure the chasm between Chase and Nico is nearly that large. Five greater than symbols would be like comparing Chase to someone like Dionte Johnson to me.

Nico is still super-under appreciated.
I got a pretty big gap between Chase and Nico myself.

Not a big gap between Hock and Likely though, that's close to even.
 
FFPC Triflex

Team A gets: Ja’Marr Chase, Hockenson, Javon Baker, Musgrave

Team B gets: Nico Collins, Isaiah Likely, Ben Sinnot
Prefer chase and hock
Easily Chase and Hock. This looks like one of those "What's the worst trade you've been offered?" posts.

The balls to ask for Baker & Musgrave too!!!

I’m trying to understand your thought process because I don’t see it as egregious by any means.

Who do you think has a better season- Chase or Nico? Hock or Likely?
I guess it’s pretty simple, by my valuations of course.
Chase >>>>> Collins
Hock >>> Likely
I’m not sure the chasm between Chase and Nico is nearly that large. Five greater than symbols would be like comparing Chase to someone like Dionte Johnson to me.

Nico is still super-under appreciated.
I put 5 because I figured 18 would be a bit obnoxious.
 
12 Team PPR TE+ 1 QB (Start 10) --> Going SF 2026

Team A gives up Sam Darnold Min QB
Team B gives up George Kittle TE + 2025 3rd (mid?)

Team B has Tua, Bryce Young and Brissett so he needed to make a move for his Compete Now Roster (ETN, Gibbs, Chase, Nico, London, Pittman)
Follow up with Part 2

Same Team A gives up Kittle TE SF
New Team C gives up JJMcarthy QB Min
 
FFPC Triflex

Team A gets: Ja’Marr Chase, Hockenson, Javon Baker, Musgrave

Team B gets: Nico Collins, Isaiah Likely, Ben Sinnot
Prefer chase and hock
Easily Chase and Hock. This looks like one of those "What's the worst trade you've been offered?" posts.

The balls to ask for Baker & Musgrave too!!!

I’m trying to understand your thought process because I don’t see it as egregious by any means.

Who do you think has a better season- Chase or Nico? Hock or Likely?
I guess it’s pretty simple, by my valuations of course.
Chase >>>>> Collins
Hock >>> Likely
I’m not sure the chasm between Chase and Nico is nearly that large. Five greater than symbols would be like comparing Chase to someone like Dionte Johnson to me.

Nico is still super-under appreciated.
I put 5 because I figured 18 would be a bit obnoxious.
Might want to lose some of those > signs :wink:
 
FFPC Triflex

Team A gets: Ja’Marr Chase, Hockenson, Javon Baker, Musgrave

Team B gets: Nico Collins, Isaiah Likely, Ben Sinnot
Prefer chase and hock
Easily Chase and Hock. This looks like one of those "What's the worst trade you've been offered?" posts.

The balls to ask for Baker & Musgrave too!!!

I’m trying to understand your thought process because I don’t see it as egregious by any means.

Who do you think has a better season- Chase or Nico? Hock or Likely?
I guess it’s pretty simple, by my valuations of course.
Chase >>>>> Collins
Hock >>> Likely
I’m not sure the chasm between Chase and Nico is nearly that large. Five greater than symbols would be like comparing Chase to someone like Dionte Johnson to me.

Nico is still super-under appreciated.
I put 5 because I figured 18 would be a bit obnoxious.
Might want to lose some of those > signs :wink:
I reserve the right to be very, very, wrong.
 
12-team, 20-man, Q RR WW F K D

Gave: Maye + 3rd rounder (mid-to-late)
Received: 2nd rounder (mid-to-late)

Drafted Maye with the 3.05 so even though it kicks the can, seems like decent value, and it frees up a spot when my IR guys start coming back in a few weeks hopefully. Always that 10% case where that 2nd ends up 2.01-2.04 which would be a nice win. 🤷‍♂️
 
Received feedback in the Pacheco thread, but I was offered Brian Robinson for Pacheco & 2nd Rd rookie draft in dynasty league. Opinions
 
32 teams, players available twice. IDP, PPR

Contender gave Roman Wilson
Builder gave Darnold, mid-late 3rd (not his own)

contender lost Tua but has Maye and Skylar.
Builder has no other starting QB on his roster, Levis on the TS which he could promote (but won’t).
 
2QB League

Addison was like my WR6 and I feel like you can always use depth in a start 2QB.

Gave: Jordan Addison
Got: Derek Carr, 2025 3rd(early-mid)

Don't play a 2QB/SF league but just wanted to acknowledge that I saw this. I've never been sold on Addison, so I suppose this is a fine trade in a 2QB league.

Also just wanted to check in and say I've been making some doozies of moves that are making me question my own thought processes and competence. That is all.
 
2QB League

Addison was like my WR6 and I feel like you can always use depth in a start 2QB.

Gave: Jordan Addison
Got: Derek Carr, 2025 3rd(early-mid)

Don't play a 2QB/SF league but just wanted to acknowledge that I saw this. I've never been sold on Addison, so I suppose this is a fine trade in a 2QB league.

Also just wanted to check in and say I've been making some doozies of moves that are making me question my own thought processes and competence. That is all.
I like Addison and in SF, this looks good.
Only problem could be a short Carr rental

RE: don’t we all make moves that make us question our process, perspective and mental capabilities??
 
2QB League

Addison was like my WR6 and I feel like you can always use depth in a start 2QB.

Gave: Jordan Addison
Got: Derek Carr, 2025 3rd(early-mid)

Don't play a 2QB/SF league but just wanted to acknowledge that I saw this. I've never been sold on Addison, so I suppose this is a fine trade in a 2QB league.

Also just wanted to check in and say I've been making some doozies of moves that are making me question my own thought processes and competence. That is all.
I like Addison and in SF, this looks good.
Only problem could be a short Carr rental

RE: don’t we all make moves that make us question our process, perspective and mental capabilities??

Yep, I thought about the rental aspect of Carr. He will get hot for a few games and then an injury or something will befall him. But to get any starting QB that can be that hot in a 2QB league is a move you might have to make, especially if you're contending. But again, I don't have enough experience. I was checking in so JoeJoe knew somebody saw it.

And yes, we all make those moves, but the one I have in mind was jaw-droppingly bad at the time and in retrospect. Like a car crash and you're frozen while the brake is right there to be pumped.

*sigh*

Alas, I will still put myself out there.
 
12-team, 20-man, Q RR WW F K D
PPR, 6pts all TDs, 0.02/0.1/0.1 for yardage
5 point bonus for 300/150/150 yardage

Team A receives: Waddle + 2025 1st (likely mid-to-late)

Team B receives: Higgins + Ridley + 2025 2nd (likely early)

My opinion ... The picks are on the wrong sides ...
 
FFPC TriFlex

I gave Rachaad White, Kareem Hunt, 2025 3rd (early from a different team)
I got Swift, Mason

I have CMC on IR, I view White and Swift as equally crappy at present but I like Swift rest of season. Grabbed Hunt with funny money last night so adding a 3rd to grab Mason seems solid enough to pull the trigger. Wasn't looking for the deal but took it.
 
12-team, 20-man, Q RR WW F K D
PPR, 6pts all TDs, 0.02/0.1/0.1 for yardage
5 point bonus for 300/150/150 yardage

Team A receives: Waddle + 2025 1st (likely mid-to-late)

Team B receives: Higgins + Ridley + 2025 2nd (likely early)

My opinion ... The picks are on the wrong sides ...
If your projections play out, the late first/early second swap isn't a big gap. Starting eight leagues makes top-end players more valuable. Waddle is the best player in the deal, and you get a better chance at drafting a difference-maker with the pick. The pick is more liquid, too.

I'll take the Waddle side.
 
FFPC TriFlex

I gave Rachaad White, Kareem Hunt, 2025 3rd (early from a different team)
I got Swift, Mason

I have CMC on IR, I view White and Swift as equally crappy at present but I like Swift rest of season. Grabbed Hunt with funny money last night so adding a 3rd to grab Mason seems solid enough to pull the trigger. Wasn't looking for the deal but took it.
I like your side, even if I don't care for Swift. I'd look to trade Swift if he puts a nice stretch of fantasy games together.
 
12-team, 20-man, Q RR WW F K D
PPR, 6pts all TDs, 0.02/0.1/0.1 for yardage
5 point bonus for 300/150/150 yardage

Team A receives: Waddle + 2025 1st (likely mid-to-late)

Team B receives: Higgins + Ridley + 2025 2nd (likely early)

My opinion ... The picks are on the wrong sides ...
If your projections play out, the late first/early second swap isn't a big gap. Starting eight leagues makes top-end players more valuable. Waddle is the best player in the deal, and you get a better chance at drafting a difference-maker with the pick. The pick is more liquid, too.

I'll take the Waddle side.
You're right about that. Not a massive move with the picks. I always think about that small probability that the team giving up the first ends up having a disastrous rest-of-season and the pick skyrockets to 1.01-1.03. But on the flipside, it's completely plausible that they're swapping pick #12 for #13 too!
 
Not involved in this doozy:

FFPC rules private league, standard:

CMC for Keon Coleman and two 2026 seconds, that are not even projected early for as much as we can project picks two years away.
 
FFPC TriFlex

I gave Rachaad White, Kareem Hunt, 2025 3rd (early from a different team)
I got Swift, Mason

I have CMC on IR, I view White and Swift as equally crappy at present but I like Swift rest of season. Grabbed Hunt with funny money last night so adding a 3rd to grab Mason seems solid enough to pull the trigger. Wasn't looking for the deal but took it.
I like that for you a lot.

Basically White and Swift are dicey. I own both of them on teams and could see opinions split on who is the preferred asset. I''d rather have White this week, Swift for later this year.

Mason for Hunt and a third, even if you did not have CMC, is clearly on your side.
 
12-team, 20-man, Q RR WW F K D
PPR, 6pts all TDs, 0.02/0.1/0.1 for yardage
5 point bonus for 300/150/150 yardage

Team A receives: Waddle + 2025 1st (likely mid-to-late)

Team B receives: Higgins + Ridley + 2025 2nd (likely early)

My opinion ... The picks are on the wrong sides ...
If your projections play out, the late first/early second swap isn't a big gap. Starting eight leagues makes top-end players more valuable. Waddle is the best player in the deal, and you get a better chance at drafting a difference-maker with the pick. The pick is more liquid, too.

I'll take the Waddle side.
You're right about that. Not a massive move with the picks. I always think about that small probability that the team giving up the first ends up having a disastrous rest-of-season and the pick skyrockets to 1.01-1.03. But on the flipside, it's completely plausible that they're swapping pick #12 for #13 too!
I personally never sell futures this far out. Too much can happen. It's early enough in the season that the first could be early.
 
16 team PPR IDP TEP SF start 11/11

Team is competitive but lost Deebo & Puka

I gave: Puka
I rec’d Aiyuk + Cade Stover (who I taxi’d, so doesn’t count against roster)

I expect most to be on the Puka side. I don’t like what I’m seeing from the 2024 Rams (60% of their OL on IR, tough schedule), and I don’t like the recurring nature of that injury. Docs I’ve seen are saying Nacua won’t be 100% until 2025, and the chance of of recurrence is high.

With Deebo missing a couple weeks, I was down to Pittman, Gabe, McLaurin & Mooney. I have a win-now roster otherwise and won the league last year.

As long as Aiyuk breaks out soon, I can live with the move. If Stover becomes something that’ll be a cherry on top.
 
10 team half PPR

R Stevenson
Went for
Najee Harris, Quentin Johnston and a future 2nd round rookie pick

I could see any two of those for Rhamondre being just about right depending on situation, but all three is a hell of an overpay
I respectfully disagree. Najee may be a decent running back but it just doesn’t show on the stat sheet. The kind of RB that gets exhausting looking at on your roster because he is too good to drop, nobody wants to trade for him, and you never want him in your lineup. QJ has shown signs of life but it is far from a sure thing that it is sustainable. Rham gives you the most surefire start of the bunch and I probably would side with that.
 
10 team half PPR

R Stevenson
Went for
Najee Harris, Quentin Johnston and a future 2nd round rookie pick

I could see any two of those for Rhamondre being just about right depending on situation, but all three is a hell of an overpay
I respectfully disagree. Najee may be a decent running back but it just doesn’t show on the stat sheet. The kind of RB that gets exhausting looking at on your roster because he is too good to drop, nobody wants to trade for him, and you never want him in your lineup. QJ has shown signs of life but it is far from a sure thing that it is sustainable. Rham gives you the most surefire start of the bunch and I probably would side with that.
I'm not going to disagree with you saying that Stevenson is the most valuable part of the trade, but let's put it this way - how many people are giving up a first for Rhamondre? If the answer is very few, then surely two serviceable options on top of a de facto value of a second is quite a lot to pay? Certainly not hating on Stevenson, I literally bought him in dynasty yesterday
 
10 team half PPR

R Stevenson
Went for
Najee Harris, Quentin Johnston and a future 2nd round rookie pick

I could see any two of those for Rhamondre being just about right depending on situation, but all three is a hell of an overpay
I respectfully disagree. Najee may be a decent running back but it just doesn’t show on the stat sheet. The kind of RB that gets exhausting looking at on your roster because he is too good to drop, nobody wants to trade for him, and you never want him in your lineup. QJ has shown signs of life but it is far from a sure thing that it is sustainable. Rham gives you the most surefire start of the bunch and I probably would side with that.
I'm not going to disagree with you saying that Stevenson is the most valuable part of the trade, but let's put it this way - how many people are giving up a first for Rhamondre? If the answer is very few, then surely two serviceable options on top of a de facto value of a second is quite a lot to pay? Certainly not hating on Stevenson, I literally bought him in dynasty yesterday
Lotta guys worth less than a first but more than a second imo—there’s a decent gap, especially this early when it’s less guaranteed a first won’t be early. I think you might get a projected late first for rhamondre if a contender had a need, also

Edit: non-superflex, KTC has the gap between Rhamondre and a late first valued at roughly Nyheim Hines. It does have QJ and a mid-2nd as even though
 
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