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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (19 Viewers)

12 team, .05 PPR (with yardage scoring bump for TEs)
QB / 1 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 FLEX 

Team A gave: Goedert, Parker, Peterson. 2021 2nd
Team B gave: Herndon, Thielen, Moss

 
menobrown said:
Just made one of my biggest trades ever but what is especially interesting is I made two offers and he accepted both offers but the first offer being accepted invalidated the second. This is FFPC and the person I made the trade with is one of my favorite people in FFPC, great guy to have in a dynasty league, and he's a little sore he accepted the first offer before seeing the second.  Put value aside and which deal people think is better, I'd like to ask opinions on right thing to do here with someone I genuinely like and don't want to be sore over a trade and again I stress the offer was not accepted in error, he just preferred the second offer.

The trade I did:

Gave:

Kyler Murray

Noah Fant

Justin Jefferson

Eric Ebron

2021 #1 and 2021 #2(projected playoff)

Got:

Mahomes

Michael Thomas

Goedert

DJAX

For what it's worth the second trade offer he also accepted and preferred to do was:

Give: Kyler, Jeudy, Jefferson, Fant, #2 and #3 in 2021 draft

Got:  Mahomes, Thomas, Goedert, Antonio Gibson

So basically if I wanted to turn the accepted first offer into the second offer I'd offer him Jeudy, DJAX, and my third round pick in 2021 for Gibson, Ebron and my first round pick in 2021 back.  Again I know I personally prefer to keep Juedy, but would prefer to do right by this guy so this is not asking which side is better, I can see it both ways but my personal preference and also what I think makes more sense for my team is to keep Juedy.
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I’d switch it up and let him have the second deal - you offered it to him; let him have it. It will only help you down the line.

 
kutta said:
I’d switch it up and let him have the second deal - you offered it to him; let him have it. It will only help you down the line.
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Thanks and I think you are right and I wish I would have but he traded Gibson away a few hours after I left that post. I'd have been ecstatic with any trade for my teams goals, should have made us both feel good about the deal.

This guy is fun as could if you want an active league. He's the defending champ from last year and  it's like he just woke up yesterday determined to change his team and made like 5-6 massive trades absolutely not prescribing to the if it's not broke don't fix it plan. Dude really helps make it fun. He's in over half my leagues and I hate that he has a sour taste over this deal, wish I'd have turned trade around for him but maybe he ended up ok because after a series of deals he basically helped use Gibson  to get  Lamb who he liked over Jeudy a few weeks ago and still probably the case.

 
menobrown said:
Thanks and I think you are right and I wish I would have but he traded Gibson away a few hours after I left that post. I'd have been ecstatic with any trade for my teams goals, should have made us both feel good about the deal.

This guy is fun as could if you want an active league. He's the defending champ from last year and  it's like he just woke up yesterday determined to change his team and made like 5-6 massive trades absolutely not prescribing to the if it's not broke don't fix it plan. Dude really helps make it fun. He's in over half my leagues and I hate that he has a sour taste over this deal, wish I'd have turned trade around for him but maybe he ended up ok because after a series of deals he basically helped use Gibson  to get  Lamb who he liked over Jeudy a few weeks ago and still probably the case.
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I doubt he is upset. Sounds like he is getting on with it. Great deal by the way. 

 
Big one, probably an overpay: 

14 team PPR devy league, 1 QB, start 2-4 RB but big starting lineups (start 9 with no K or DEF)

Gave: 

DJ Moore, Bryan Edwards, Tua, James Robinson, Gerald Everett

Got:

Jonathon Taylor

Probably reactionary to week 1, but I like to start 4 RBs in this format whenever possible and this makes my RB group overall pretty great, so it was worth the potential overpay. There were some smaller waiver type pieces involved coming back to balance the rosters, but not worth mucking things up, this is the essence of the deal.

 
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ConnSKINS26 said:
Big one, probably an overpay: 

14 team PPR devy league, 1 QB, start 2-4 RB but big starting lineups (start 9 with no K or DEF)

Gave: 

DJ Moore, Bryan Edwards, Tua, James Robinson, Gerald Everett

Got:

Jonathon Taylor

Probably reactionary to week 1, but I like to start 4 RBs in this format whenever possible and this makes my RB group overall pretty great, so it was worth the potential overpay. There were some smaller waiver type pieces involved coming back to balance the rosters, but not worth mucking things up, this is the essence of the deal.
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Hey class, pay attention.  This is how leagues are won.

 
JohnnyU said:
Hey class, pay attention.  This is how leagues are won.
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Hope so, it would be a multiple repeat situation if I do. I’ve done well over the years waiting just long enough to make sure a potential young stud RB looks like the real deal, and then pouncing early, overpaying at that point for what I think is a sure thing, at a price that ends up not being an overpay shortly after. Hopefully this is one of those situations, he is arguably my RB3 or RB4.

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
Big one, probably an overpay: 

14 team PPR devy league, 1 QB, start 2-4 RB but big starting lineups (start 9 with no K or DEF)

Gave: 

DJ Moore, Bryan Edwards, Tua, James Robinson, Gerald Everett

Got:

Jonathon Taylor

Probably reactionary to week 1, but I like to start 4 RBs in this format whenever possible and this makes my RB group overall pretty great, so it was worth the potential overpay. There were some smaller waiver type pieces involved coming back to balance the rosters, but not worth mucking things up, this is the essence of the deal.
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No brainer.  The only real asset you gave up is Moore, and WRs are a dime a dozen relative to 21 year old workhorse RBs.  

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
Big one, probably an overpay: 

14 team PPR devy league, 1 QB, start 2-4 RB but big starting lineups (start 9 with no K or DEF)

Gave: 

DJ Moore, Bryan Edwards, Tua, James Robinson, Gerald Everett

Got:

Jonathon Taylor

Probably reactionary to week 1, but I like to start 4 RBs in this format whenever possible and this makes my RB group overall pretty great, so it was worth the potential overpay. There were some smaller waiver type pieces involved coming back to balance the rosters, but not worth mucking things up, this is the essence of the deal.
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👍

This is the big philosophical evolution I have made in fantasy, especially, dynasty in the past couple of years  - be willing to overpay or overdraft players you want and believe in.  I used to always rely on getting the most value I could but values are set by where players are today.  We are trying to predict the future so make a (educated) prediction even if current values say you "lost" a trade.

First of all, if you are right, you didn't overpay or overdraft.  Second, we do this silly hobby of trying to predict the unpredictable because it is supposed to be fun, so go out there and get the players you want and believe in.

Take a stand.

👊

 
14 team PPR devy

Gave:

Jason Huntley, Joe Reed

Got:

Cole Kmet

Two pet project players of mine but this one was all about chasing that pedigree. Tough position to hit on but now I just need to be patient. 

 
Got offered Hayden Hurst/Curtis Samuel for David Johnson. Full PPR, need TE help, struggling with this one as I also have Carson, Sander and Hines and we can start 4 RBs. 

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Trade #2

Got
Darnold, Sam NYJ QB
Evans, Darrynton TEN RB
Robinson, James JAC RB
McLaurin, Terry WAS WR
Sutton, Courtland DEN WR
Watkins, Sammy KCC WR
Year 2021 Round 1 Draft Pick 
Year 2021 Round 2 Draft Pick 
Year 2021 Round 3 Draft Pick
Year 2021 Round 3 Draft Pick
Year 2021 Round 4 Draft Pick
Year 2021 Round 5 Draft Pick
Year 2021 Round 5 Draft Pick
Year 2021 Round 6 Draft Pick

Gave
Watson, Deshaun HOU QB
Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB
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I hate to say it but I don't like this for you, personally.  As probably one of the few around here like you that still has some non-ppr leagues hanging out there my experience with them has always been that stud workhorse RBs like Zeke are virtually untouchable.

Additionally WRs outside of the truly elite guys are just very meh pieces in that format.  As are 1st round picks that aren't early in the round (IE where you can draft the stud RBs), and I'm guessing if this guy is trading for Zeke he's not going to be sending over a top 3 pick.

In a typical PPR league I would say this favors the Zeke side by a decent bit.  I think non-PPR only raises the value of Zeke on top of that relative to that type of league, while at the same time lowering the value of McLaurin/Sutton/potentially late 1st.

 
menobrown said:
Just made one of my biggest trades ever but what is especially interesting is I made two offers and he accepted both offers but the first offer being accepted invalidated the second. This is FFPC and the person I made the trade with is one of my favorite people in FFPC, great guy to have in a dynasty league, and he's a little sore he accepted the first offer before seeing the second.  Put value aside and which deal people think is better, I'd like to ask opinions on right thing to do here with someone I genuinely like and don't want to be sore over a trade and again I stress the offer was not accepted in error, he just preferred the second offer.

The trade I did:

Gave:

Kyler Murray

Noah Fant

Justin Jefferson

Eric Ebron

2021 #1 and 2021 #2(projected playoff)

Got:

Mahomes

Michael Thomas

Goedert

DJAX

For what it's worth the second trade offer he also accepted and preferred to do was:

Give: Kyler, Jeudy, Jefferson, Fant, #2 and #3 in 2021 draft

Got:  Mahomes, Thomas, Goedert, Antonio Gibson

So basically if I wanted to turn the accepted first offer into the second offer I'd offer him Jeudy, DJAX, and my third round pick in 2021 for Gibson, Ebron and my first round pick in 2021 back.  Again I know I personally prefer to keep Juedy, but would prefer to do right by this guy so this is not asking which side is better, I can see it both ways but my personal preference and also what I think makes more sense for my team is to keep Juedy.
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Both deals are great for you.  I'd let switch to the 2nd one if he wants to and if it's if still possible.

 
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On the subject of Taylor, I just finalized this one.  12 team PPR Superflex

Gave:

Kyler Murray

Andy Isabella

Got:

Jonathan Taylor

Alexander Mattison (I own Cook)

2021 2nd (early)

2021 2nd (mid)

2021 3rd (early)

2021 3rd (late)

 
Gave up my 2021 1st round pick for Montgomery. I'm still high on this guy, he may never be elite but I can see him being a solid RB2 for the next few years. It should be a low pick as I have finished 1st & 2nd in the first two years of this league.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
I hate to say it but I don't like this for you, personally.  As probably one of the few around here like you that still has some non-ppr leagues hanging out there my experience with them has always been that stud workhorse RBs like Zeke are virtually untouchable.

Additionally WRs outside of the truly elite guys are just very meh pieces in that format.  As are 1st round picks that aren't early in the round (IE where you can draft the stud RBs), and I'm guessing if this guy is trading for Zeke he's not going to be sending over a top 3 pick.

In a typical PPR league I would say this favors the Zeke side by a decent bit.  I think non-PPR only raises the value of Zeke on top of that relative to that type of league, while at the same time lowering the value of McLaurin/Sutton/potentially late 1st.
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I disagree for a couple of reasons. A lot of it comes down to when you expect to win. I don't this year with this team even with EE so that point is moot.

Then, you have to calculate how many more points EE would have to score to make a team with bad WRs competitive - he can't win games on his own.

And even if I can't (but who really knows if this is true) replace him with the pick I received, my OWN pick puts me in the position to do so as I expect that one to be high.

Reduce it to the absurd - if you have EE on your team and third stingers for the rest of it, it doesn't matter if he's the best player in fantasy. You're not going to win. 

 
Andy Dufresne said:
I disagree for a couple of reasons. A lot of it comes down to when you expect to win. I don't this year with this team even with EE so that point is moot.

Then, you have to calculate how many more points EE would have to score to make a team with bad WRs competitive - he can't win games on his own.

And even if I can't (but who really knows if this is true) replace him with the pick I received, my OWN pick puts me in the position to do so as I expect that one to be high.

Reduce it to the absurd - if you have EE on your team and third stingers for the rest of it, it doesn't matter if he's the best player in fantasy. You're not going to win. 
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Yeah I don't disagree with the idea of trading Elliott, I just don't like what you got back for him personally.

Obviously you know your league better than I but if age were the main issue I would much rather have targeted a younger back like CEH or JT or Jacobs and maybe a throw-in.  Guys like Sutton and McLaurin are just of minimal interest to me in non-PPR, especially as the centerpiece in a deal for a stud RB.

Again, just my $.02.  There are lots of ways to build a championship team.

 
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FreeBaGeL said:
On the subject of Taylor, I just finalized this one.  12 team PPR Superflex

Gave:

Kyler Murray

Andy Isabella

Got:

Jonathan Taylor

Alexander Mattison (I own Cook)

2021 2nd (early)

2021 2nd (mid)

2021 3rd (early)

2021 3rd (late)
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Who are your other QBs?

 
barackdhouse said:
I doubt he is upset. Sounds like he is getting on with it. Great deal by the way. 
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Thanks and I like it for my team and the guy I did the trade is good, I think getting Lamb made it all right with him.

BTW here is summary of the trades that team I traded made in about a 24 hour period covering Tuesday night to last night. This team is the current two time defending champ of this league and entered the season as the favorite. I'd also he did something like this 5 years ago I believe, won the league, dismantled his team and we wondered what he was doing and what he did was built it back even better in a year or two.

I'll summarize and leave out McLaurin who was acquired and traded as well as any picks acquired and traded:

Gave:

Mahomes, Lamar,  Kittle, Goedert, Michael Thomas, David Johnson, A Gibson, DJAX, Isabella and his second round pick.

Got:

Kyler Murray, Lamb, Will Fuller, Justin Jefferson, AJG, Fant, Ebron, Gesicki, 3 2021 #1's all from teams that look strong so playoff likely and two 2021 #2s'.

Almost all the trades involved the 3-4 best looking teams in this league so the league pretty much got flipped on it's head in a day.

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
Very very strange that someone would do this, especially in non-PPR. I’m jealous given how much I just paid for JT in PPR. Well done.
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I offered him a likely lower 1st, 2 thirds, Keenan Allen, and James Robinson. Then he countered with this. So he gave up Allen at a chance of a higher first.

I think he got greedy. But I'm not complaining.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
I offered him a likely lower 1st, 2 thirds, Keenan Allen, and James Robinson. Then he countered with this. So he gave up Allen at a chance of a higher first.

I think he got greedy. But I'm not complaining.
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Wow, bizarre he didn’t just ask for both 1sts when removing Allen, seems like he outsmarted himself. Still wouldn’t have been enough anyways.

 
3 way trade, 10 tm ppr

Team 1:

 gets Stafford, D. Parker, 2nd

gives Deebo, Dak, Henderson

Team 2:

gets J Burrow, Henderson, 3rd

gives Stafford, 2nd

Team 3:

gives J Burrow, D Parker, 3rd

Gets Dak, Deebo

 
menobrown said:
Thanks and I like it for my team and the guy I did the trade is good, I think getting Lamb made it all right with him.

BTW here is summary of the trades that team I traded made in about a 24 hour period covering Tuesday night to last night. This team is the current two time defending champ of this league and entered the season as the favorite. I'd also he did something like this 5 years ago I believe, won the league, dismantled his team and we wondered what he was doing and what he did was built it back even better in a year or two.

I'll summarize and leave out McLaurin who was acquired and traded as well as any picks acquired and traded:

Gave:

Mahomes, Lamar,  Kittle, Goedert, Michael Thomas, David Johnson, A Gibson, DJAX, Isabella and his second round pick.

Got:

Kyler Murray, Lamb, Will Fuller, Justin Jefferson, AJG, Fant, Ebron, Gesicki, 3 2021 #1's all from teams that look strong so playoff likely and two 2021 #2s'.

Almost all the trades involved the 3-4 best looking teams in this league so the league pretty much got flipped on it's head in a day.
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Good for him on shaking it up, stagnant teams rarely stay great.  But I don't like the outcome of those deals for him at all.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
Wentz/Lock/Haskins

Dalvin/Sanders my only other startable RBs.
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I really like Taylor and see the allure of this deal (adding him to Dalvin and Sanders makes that a very nice trio) but I would probably not do that trade in a super-flex league since I am incredibly high on Murray...while Taylor is a major piece the other pieces are nice combined together but when you look at them individually there is a lot of room for error when dealing a QB that could be a difference-maker for the next 10-12 years...you have an interesting threesome at QB right now, you can make a nice case for upside or downside for them...if possible I would have tried to deal Wentz or Lock for a lesser RB then Taylor and kept Murray...all that being said I do get that if you are gonna obtain Taylor in Dynasty you have to give up a lot and you are in a nice position to make some more deals with that haul of picks. 

 
cloppbeast said:
3 way trade, 10 tm ppr

Team 1:

 gets Stafford, D. Parker, 2nd

gives Deebo, Dak, Henderson

Team 2:

gets J Burrow, Henderson, 3rd

gives Stafford, 2nd

Team 3:

gives J Burrow, D Parker, 3rd

Gets Dak, Deebo
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Seems ok all around, like team 2’s get the most and 1 the least but not bad

 
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ConnSKINS26 said:
Big one, probably an overpay: 

14 team PPR devy league, 1 QB, start 2-4 RB but big starting lineups (start 9 with no K or DEF)

Gave: 

DJ Moore, Bryan Edwards, Tua, James Robinson, Gerald Everett

Got:

Jonathon Taylor

Probably reactionary to week 1, but I like to start 4 RBs in this format whenever possible and this makes my RB group overall pretty great, so it was worth the potential overpay. There were some smaller waiver type pieces involved coming back to balance the rosters, but not worth mucking things up, this is the essence of the deal.
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Great deal for Taylor. I'd give that up in a heartbeat. And decent deal for seller of he is dealing with barren roster. 

 
hispeedthinmint said:
These two trades just went down in dynasty PPR

Team A gives L. Bell

Team B gives Jordan Howard

Team A gives Sutton & Ekeler

Team B gives Godwin & David Johnson

I know Bell has underperformed as a jet, but Jordan Howard is not even worth a half eaten bag of chips. What the hell?!
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My league would have vetoed that first trade it is that lopsided.  I'd understand if Howard was coming off a down year, but Bell is a feature back.  

The second one is a heads scratcher too because Ekeler isn't a feature back, where David Johnson seems to be (until injury).  I also think Godwin is better than Sutton.  

 
Another OBJ one

10 team 2QB 3WR 3RB 2TE 1Flex

I gave: OBJ and Cam Akers, I know I love me some Akers but I kind of have it set in my mind he won't be special anymore

I got: Tyreek 

It's a free league with a bunch of friends from high school so I figured why not since I've never owned Tyreek

 
Zyphros said:
Another OBJ one

10 team 2QB 3WR 3RB 2TE 1Flex

I gave: OBJ and Cam Akers, I know I love me some Akers but I kind of have it set in my mind he won't be special anymore

I got: Tyreek 

It's a free league with a bunch of friends from high school so I figured why not since I've never owned Tyreek
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That is a a huge get..that is not much to give up to get a player like Hill...OBJ is a fantasy headache so he’s an easy one to move...as for Akers he’s a high quality prospect but an easy one to give away when the return is a player of Hill’s caliber...unless Akers turns into a legit top 10 RB for a nice stretch of time (and I don’t think he is at that level) this deal could get real ugly real fast for the other Owner.

 
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Jonesin For Some Football said:
12 Team, .5 PPR, 1 QB league:

Gave

OBJ, Bryce Love, James Robinson

Got

Kittle.
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Awesome deal for you...you nibbled on your rosters edges, gave up no foundation pieces and got a stud TE...I really don’t get what the other Owner is thinking...OBJ is a total enigma and I would not want any part of him unless I was getting him at 50 cents on the dollar, no one really has a clue what is up with Love and while Robinson could be a nice RB you probably got him on waivers a month ago so you are playing with house money with him.

 
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14 Team - NO PPR

Gave: 2021 2nd Round Rookie Pick (Pick will be between 22-28)

Got: Dallas Goedert

I have Kelce and Hurst, but both have same bye. Other team has Engram and Hockenson.

 
BearsFan4Life said:
14 Team - NO PPR

Gave: 2021 2nd Round Rookie Pick (Pick will be between 22-28)

Got: Dallas Goedert

I have Kelce and Hurst, but both have same bye. Other team has Engram and Hockenson.
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That's theft for Goedert. Unless you think you can win this year, start shopping Kelce NOW. Ertz is gone next year and Goedert is a top 5 TE next year (maybe already now)

 
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