Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (29 Viewers)
- Thread starter Gottabesweet
- Start date
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
HSG initially preferred the non 2023 1st side of a deal I made:
Gave: Fields, 1.02, 3.05
Received: Mayfield, 1.07, 2023 1st
JohnnyU
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I think he preferred that side in mine from ~one month ago, before Tyreek went to the Fins
I gave Claypool, G Davis, Hubbard, 1.07, 2023 1st
I got Tyreek, 1.02
I don't like it nearly as much as I did then but...?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I still like your side.
During the draft pick 2 just might get you a later 1st and a 2023 1st.
In which case Tyreek is better than Claypool and davis
Wait, he initially the opposite side of gabriel Davis and a 2023 1st??
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Regardless of your team makeup, is there any reason prefer a 2023 1st from a probable playoff team over pick 1.04 this year??
barackdhouse
Footballguy
IIRC he was in lockstep with the rest of us, in that I stole Tyreek *and* I stole the 1.02.
I think this is a giant hit to Tyreek. And to Mahomes.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
In a vacuum no. But any other pieces involved can easily tip the scales. Trades don't happen in vacuums but even with this theoretical one, there is perhaps another reason to hold the 1.04, even if you don't like the name that will be there (or that might fall there).
Why not add something to it to get to 1.01 and get the difference maker you believe in rather than the 1.04 you don't? If you do then none of this matters but I typically err on the side of competing now and making my team better now. I'd rather do something with the 1.04 than punt.
But it would not take much to add to the future 1st to get me there.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
A couple, but it’s contextually relevant.
Value-wise, I see them as about equal. For me, personally, I’m very high on about 15 players in the ‘23 draft. I’m very high on about 3 players in the ‘22 draft.
So I’m not as big on 2022, but I’m also bucking for the 1.01 in ‘23, so it benefits me to wait to add that player. Worse roster in ‘22 = better chances at 1.01 in ‘23
So to me that’s 2 good reasons why I’d want that ‘23 pick. I have 6x 1sts, likely 4 in the top 5, and 2 in the 7-12 range + 2.01. And I’m almost as excited about players like Tank & the Notre Dame TE, and a few of the receivers in that 1.10-2.05 range.
2023 seems like a deeper draft with more high caliber prospects to me.
We all have our takes.
Claypool was also traded in my standard FFPC league yesterday for 1.11, again that's not SF.
I think it's equitable.
I prefer the 1.4 to the 2023#1.
I feel like Lamb's a little overrated but the great Kamara is getting up in age and likely starting a suspension in the eye. Sutton got gift of Wilson but did not look like the same guy to me last year, even in today's world not all players return to what they were post-ACL. Plus these two killed off a roster spot.
So as boring as it is to say it all seems equitable, would depend on makeup of team(s) for me.
What I like about Toney is his short game with ball in his hands, he does not need much at QB to do this.
My concerns with Toney are what's inside his head, not who is throwing him the ball.
And fwiw I actually watch a lot of player interviews(something a fantasy friend of mind encouraged me to do with incoming prospects) and I like him a lot. Great personality, seems like a really fun guy. I just worry he's not really that into the grind and hard work of it all.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
That's kinda how trades SHOULD look. Unfortunately 90% of this thread is lopsided stuff
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I posted above but I got Claypool for 2.03 and also another where I went Fant and a 23 3rd for Claypool and 3.01.
sheerterror
Footballguy
Speaking of FFPC trades. I got this $750 league where I've not been able to get an accept all off-season. So I went and checked and saw not one single trade had gone down. I then went and checked last year and saw the league had one trade during the season, with one going down on August 13th. So since August, since the 2021 season started the entire league has had one trade and it was not even a major one.
Sucks when you got a roster surplus and/or NEED to make a trade.
Sucks when you got a roster surplus and/or NEED to make a trade.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I still like Fant.
That said, for a 2nd I would buy Claypool everywhere I could. Ben was NOT good for him
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
12 team PPR, 1 QB.
Gave: Claypool
Received: Ravens Def, 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, 2023 3rd
Gave: Claypool
Received: Ravens Def, 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, 2023 3rd
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
this is a preposterously huge haul. I like Claypool, but he’s not worth anything remotely close to this package.
I can’t believe somebody traded their top three pics in what might be the best draft since 2015 for Claypool. make it make sense.
Last edited by a moderator:
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
Short bench league so 2023 3rd means very little. 2023 2nd could have very little value if late. 2023 late 1st for Claypool seems about right. I was very reluctant to give up Claypool for these picks.
this is a preposterously huge haul. I like Claypool, but he’s not worth anything remotely close to this package.
I can’t believe somebody traded their top three pics in what might be the best draft since 2015 for Claypool. make it make sense.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
12 team PPR, 1 QB. Just made another trade:
Gave: Bateman, 2023 3rd, 2023 3rd
Received: Jeudy
Gave: Bateman, 2023 3rd, 2023 3rd
Received: Jeudy
Birdie048
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I don’t mind Jeudy’s upside, but to my eye the 3rd round picks are on the wrong side of this.
That said, of the two, Jeudy is more likely to breakout with Wilson than Bateman is in that Baltimore offense.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
jabarony
Footballguy
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Probably made a questionable trade on my part, 12 team PPR dynasty league.
Gave: Barkley and Tyreek Hill
Got: Dobbins and McLaurin
I just don't believe in Barkley anymore, and counting on McLaurin to have his best year ever (he's had the lowest QBr in the NFL the last 2 years in the league, and still put up 1000+ a season.) But probably left some value on the table huh? I do think Hill's value will take a hit as well.
Gave: Barkley and Tyreek Hill
Got: Dobbins and McLaurin
I just don't believe in Barkley anymore, and counting on McLaurin to have his best year ever (he's had the lowest QBr in the NFL the last 2 years in the league, and still put up 1000+ a season.) But probably left some value on the table huh? I do think Hill's value will take a hit as well.
Last edited by a moderator:
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Big names. Big move.
Purely going value, I feel like you did leave some value on the table.
That said, I am not opposed to moving off of Barkley, and I agree Hill is very likely to lose value.
I like both Scary Terry, and Dobbins a lot going into 2022. Dobbins should recover and his upside seems pretty high assuming he recovers 100%.
Maybe I’m crazy but this doesn’t feel terribly imbalanced to me, other than the names.
DropKick
Footballguy
Don't like it..
Would I deal Barkley for Dobbins? Not yet. Both with injury history but still hoping Barkley can get his legs back under him.
Would I deal Hill for Scary Terry? No. Maybe if the Skins acquired a better QB, but no.
dipandglide
Footballguy
Curious what people think of this…
14 teams, superflex, start two TE, PPR (TE premium)
Gave: Christian Kirk, Hayden Hurst, H. Bryant, 2.06, 3.05
Got: 1.03, D. Parker, S. Shepard
I have deep depth at WR/TE. Kirk and the TE’s are nice pieces. But none are needle movers. Yay? Nay?
14 teams, superflex, start two TE, PPR (TE premium)
Gave: Christian Kirk, Hayden Hurst, H. Bryant, 2.06, 3.05
Got: 1.03, D. Parker, S. Shepard
I have deep depth at WR/TE. Kirk and the TE’s are nice pieces. But none are needle movers. Yay? Nay?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’d probably try to deal that package for more than Parker & Shepard. The 1.03 is nice. I dunno. This one’s tough to evaluate. I don’t know what Parker is at this point of his career. I’ve never been a big shepard guy.
I don't think I'd have done it but it's ok, easy to see how it might work out great for you.
Basically based on where I got them you got a little worse in 2022 but not so much of a loss that getting what I think 2 years across the board younger can't make up for it over the long haul.
Last edited by a moderator:
I don't play SF but in this case does not matter because I'd do this for 1.3 if a QB in top 3 picks was not an option.
dipandglide
Footballguy
Tbh, I don’t care about Parker/Shep. They are throw ins nothing more. It’s 1.03 for all those pieces.
rockaction
Footballguy
This is really an understated part of the process and one not many are willing to go to the lengths to do, but is so important. If you can couple what you think is a good guy with the right mindset with a whole lot of athletic ability, you're a step ahead.
There have been several cases where guys have shown me some red flags and I haven't been hesitant to move them, even if they're potential superstars. And the ones that are relatable -- that I like -- often fit the bill of being good guys.
I didn't practice what I preached when I traded Chris Godwin, and I may be rueing that one for a while. Solid guy all around.
rockaction
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC SuperFlex one of my worst orphans I am trying to do something with - not a big Najee fan
I gave Najee, Bateman
I got 1.03, 2023 1st, Fournette, Everett, Julio
BTW Dalvin Cook is only 7 months younger than LF, who has higher draft capital, a higher PPG finish last year and less injury wear and tear. And is ridiculously cheaper than Cook in all formats.
I gave Najee, Bateman
I got 1.03, 2023 1st, Fournette, Everett, Julio
BTW Dalvin Cook is only 7 months younger than LF, who has higher draft capital, a higher PPG finish last year and less injury wear and tear. And is ridiculously cheaper than Cook in all formats.
Last edited by a moderator:
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I love this deal - 2x 1sts + Fournette? I don’t even care about Everett & Julio, though you might get some value out of them.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yes Everett is a guy I have been buying everywhere for late 3rds. Julio will probably get dropped but I threw him in to make the other guy "think" I am giving him a 3 for 2 to clear roster spots. Cuts are due in 4 days and offers are flying everywhere.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC SuperFlex
I gave Mike Williams, 1.10
I got M Carter, 2.03,B Edwards, T Marshall
Allowed my partner to clear two spots and I moved my WR6 for much needed RB depth/youth/upside.
I gave Mike Williams, 1.10
I got M Carter, 2.03,
Allowed my partner to clear two spots and I moved my WR6 for much needed RB depth/youth/upside.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I mentioned it previously - early redraft rankings are suggesting Fournette as an early round 2 pick, which I think is a great value.
Last edited by a moderator:
rockaction
Footballguy
I really, really like this deal, too. Volume is king for RBs and Najee will get volume, but so will Fournette this year and likely next if he holds up. Plus you get the 1.03 to maybe take Burks, Walker, or Wilson and then the 2023 first.
That's a good haul.
Bateman is stuck in Baltimore's offense. Love him, but not touching him anymore like I once would have.
