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To be clear, I'm in 6 FFPC leagues so I have a similar perspective. This is just a matter of disagreeing on virtually every piece and just goes to show how even small differences in opposite directions can amount to a large discrepancy in final trade.
Not in front of stats right now, but 99% sure Mariota has yet to finish top 15 at QB in PPG in 3 years. He's a liability in a start 1 QB league. After 3 years, I think he is what he is. I'll change my view if he starts scoring better, but until then, he's worthless on a team except as a bye week replacement. I think he actually hurts a short roster like FFPC when you don't want to drop and get a better WW QB that is doing better short term.
During last season, I moved Rodgers for Goff & this year's 1.01. I am taking Barkley
I own Cohen a good amount and have had offers for multiple seconds and not something I'd consider. He'll be 23 years old and is consistently going in round 7 of FFPC format redrafts and I think he should. Why would anyone trade that for a second? I've not seen him dealt for something that cheap all off-season.
I'd have held Mixon and even in a redraft I don't see a dropoff this year from Freeman to Mixon, and saying that is not a knock on Freeman.
My point wasn't that Mariota has trade value because I am with you that he doesn't. My point was that you are over valuing Rodgers in a one quarterback league. People would rather roll out their Matt Staffords and Matt Ryans and keep their first round picks. I agree with that philosophy by the way. Which is why I traded Rodgers.
I lot of people would say, "I wish I played in league that stupid "......But I am so so so glad I dont.
It affects both but it affects borderline qb1/qb2 types a LOT more than someone who is elite at the position.
As someone who doesn't play FFPC Mariota is certainly not droppable in my league which is deep, 35 quarterbacks rostered. But I do 100% agree he is not a strong QB1 at this point and I wouldn't want him starting on my team ....but that could change, he's young and he has potential.
He was #13 in 2016 and 2015 was his best PPG season and while he was not top 15 that year he put up points that would have put him at #9 I think last year. His 2016 season was the 15th best fantasy season by a first or second year QB since 2002 and if was PPG he'd have probably moved up to around #10. Again, 2016 was not his best PPG season.gianmarco said:
I was a heavy Mariota critic prior to last year. and for two reasons: his injury and teams figuring him out a little better.
this is close to me, this in most of my leagues would be DJ Moore or Kerryon Johnson. I think I take the pick and I like Cupp
I recall reading on FBG that LAR was 24th or something in passing attempts last year, maybe it was in Cooks'player page. Cooks is there now. many mouths to feed when they dont even throw the ball much.
If Davis emerges as a playmaker then I love the upside of Mariota and the Ten offense.
Team B. 3rd round picks are nothing so this is Hilton for a 1st, Shepard, second this year- which is huge. that's Anthony Miller or Gallup in most cases... both excellent. and ivory which is a throw away imo.
1.9 by a wide, wide margin.
I like Shepard over Hilton moving forward in dynasty.
Picks, but expecting Jeffery to have a big year nonetheless.
Gimmie 1.9 all day long. (First of all it's Kupp with a K not a C) Kupp doesn't have the upside that Sutton/Miller/Kirk/Moore do. He may have a better floor, but I don't value that much at this part of the draft. It's not overly difficult to find WR2/3 types on waivers or cheap trades for vets but getting guys that we might be calling elite in a couple of years is expensive.
Getting any 1st for Kupp after the Cooks trade is a steal IMO. And I say this as someone who likes him and owns him in one league.
Mariota was one of the darling next big things at QB a year ago, now the pendulum has swung too far to the other side. Tenn is a big x-factor this year, it's a very young and inexperienced new coaching staff, they may be the next wunderkid's or it may implode spectacularly. At such a low price on Mariota though, he's worth the gamble.
Mariota is a guy who's not very useful in his current form but could take the leap to become a top 5 fantasy QB.
Seems lateral to me. I probably just used a late 1st to grab Kerryon... Unless you absolutely hate Kerryon Johnson I don't see how this could be considered a win.
Team B just acquired Kerryon and Agholor for A. Collins/Golladay. So he didn't initially draft him.
I ended up taking Lamar Jackson at 2.3 which is who I wanted/think my roster needed more than another WR (I have Julio, Cooks, Jeffrey, Gordon, Goodwin, Crowder, Dede, Kearse). I'm about to be up at this 2.9 and my own 2.10.
You have to figure in the possibility that the 2019 1st is not a late first but could be early to mid. Stuff happens, good teams often miss the playoffs due to injuries, bad luck, etc. and in FFPC those good teams that just miss the playoffs frequently end up with the 1st or 2nd pick.
While I agree anything can happen, should be 1.11/1.12.
I'd pass. fournette is injury prone with a bad ankle. Evans used to be a top wr. now hes just getting by on his name it seems.
And Barkley is a rookie who could bust.
Jesus Christ. I love Saquon as much as the next guy, but that's absurd. Take that and run. It's funny, going into last year Evans was being discussed in the realm of ODB as far as dynasty rankings go. Now, after one down season he's just being thrown to the wayside? So you gave up a Defense and rb who will likely offer next to nothing in fantasy value along with Barkley for a top 10 dynasty RB, a top 10 dynasty WR, and another first round pick. I don't care if the pick is the 1.10, that's insane.
