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I really don't like that the Njoku side waited the 2 years of normal TE development time and is trading him now for a 2nd and a 33 year old.
My thought would be this post would be more appropriate in the assistant coach forum, or even in the dynasty value discussion thread. It's close enough that I need more team info to say one way or another, and you can't get into that in the completed trade thread.
I would take Engram unless I had major TE depth. He's the bird in hand with tons of upside, and draft picks are risky. He's functionally a WR that you can play at TE. We don't know landing spot or draft capital for the best talents yet..
IMO a high majority of TE's break out in year two.
He had a 6.6 ppg advantage over Goff at QB7 in 2018. 3.9 advantage over Ryan at QB2. If he only managed half of that in the future, he would be worth a ton. Maybe even more than his supposedly sell high moment right now. If he maintains a healthy positional advantage, and factoring in regression from a crazy 2018, it is possible his dynasty value still has room to grow. If he stacks a couple more elite years.jtd13 said:
Ryan is actually a good name to bring up. 2 years ago he put up the most efficient QB season in nfl history and now 2 years later even after a 5000/35 season his trade value is pretty bleh.Andy Dufresne said:I don't know why people think all QBs are the same.
In Zealots, where all TDs are 6, Mahomes scored almost 6 points per game more than 2nd place Matt Ryan.
Maybe not, but I think you can get close enough for almost free that I'm not paying a borderline top 12 option at a premium position for Mahomes.
So mahomes is so successful with his style that they will run the ball more because they’re up?
Huh? I don't know how you read that from anything I posted.
And that was still like 100 points off Mahomes. What kind of players were 100 points behind Cooks?
Do people intentionally ignore the point of a post and respond to one line as if it's saying something else on this board? Seems to happen over and over again.
Oh I see what you meant now- that other teams will try to copy the chiefs style therefore increasing the value of other qbs. I read it as KCs attempts will regress because of their success.
Davonte Adams I’m assuming...it seems right, but-
This is a point I hadn’t considered- I’ll take the depth here as well, but seems pretty fair.
The issue I have seen with trading QBs in a 12 team league is that they are more valuable to the team that has them than the team trading for them. Almost every team has a solid one already. Ultimately, what they are worth is what someone will pay. I wouldn't give a late first for any Qb besides Mahomes and that is only if Hill is exonerated. If I was a contending team that was really bad at Qb then that may make a difference.
The value is on the Luck Adam Chubb side. This is what you have to pay to get Barkley though, sometimes even more. The owner in one of my leagues won't even listen (wisely) to offers that are a 30 to 40 percent overpay.
Thats a pretty interesting deal. I would take Gurley/Rodgers myself but with Mahomes value so high right now, and Gurleys pretty deflated I can see how this deal went down.
Agreed, interesting deal. I would take Mahomes/Jones side. Mahomes is a decade younger and looks like a plug and play starter for 10+ years. Anyone’s guess on Gurley....but there is legitimate concern about his future and if he ever returns to his elite form. I actually really like Jones and think he could be one of the bigger surprises this season.
Juju/Johnson pretty easily for me.
slightly off-topic but did you ever consider increasing the amount of starters in your league? All of my 12 team leagues start 6 players at RB/WR/TE so only 5 in a 10 man league just seems awfully low and not as challenging.
we also start a dedicated TE, and it's IDP. 1 qb, 1 rb, 2 wr, 1 te, 2 rb/wr/te flex, 1 k, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db.
They're close enough in my mind that it's personal preference. Personally, I will never again own a player named Mike Williams.
